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Hi!
I have a question:
If I'll just unlock the bootloader (no root or recovery), will I be able to install OTA updates?
If yes, can I root it and still install OTA's?
I'm ok with having to reroot, but can I install OTA's while I have a custom recovery and root?
Thank you!
EDIT:
Thanks to ollie_o I found a solution, see below for details
I was wondering the same - I've had one small OTA update when I first turned the phone on, but nothing since I unlocked the bootloader - has there been a December security update yet?
Can anyone confirm what the most recent OS version / security update is?
Mine's running the LMY48B build (Oct 7) with the November security update (2015-11-01)
Found out the solution!
benjymous said:
I was wondering the same - I've had one small OTA update when I first turned the phone on, but nothing since I unlocked the bootloader - has there been a December security update yet?
Can anyone confirm what the most recent OS version / security update is?
Mine's running the LMY48B build (Oct 7) with the November security update (2015-11-01)
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Thanks to olli_o, I was able to find the answer:
You can't update with root, I don't know about unlocked bootloader, but you can install updates manually even if you are rooted. You just need to re-install the root after each update
Link to guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wileyfox-swift/general/rom-wileyfox-swift-t3267037
:good: Thank you olli_o :good:
Soooo.....I just bought this phone, unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk.
Today, I got a system update notification saying Android Pie is ready to download.
Anybody else getting this and if so, I have to go back to 100% stock in order to upgrade right? Then unlock BL again?
Mine isn't showing the update yet. I've got the TA-1068. Not unlocked or anything.
It is possible someone jumped the gun, releasing it too early, and they pulled it so can't download it.
Not yet available on my nokia 6.1. I think we are a couple of weeks away from the update.
Ozonethegreat said:
Soooo.....I just bought this phone, unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk.
Today, I got a system update notification saying Android Pie is ready to download.
Anybody else getting this and if so, I have to go back to 100% stock in order to upgrade right? Then unlock BL again?
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Which TA....?
Ozonethegreat said:
Soooo.....I just bought this phone, unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk.
Today, I got a system update notification saying Android Pie is ready to download.
Anybody else getting this and if so, I have to go back to 100% stock in order to upgrade right? Then unlock BL again?
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What security update level of android 8.1 are you on?
Good luck getting 100% back to stock.
I have a TA-1045 and I unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk on the July patch of android 8.1. I get update prompts for the August security update, but the update won't install. I tried completely removing Magisk, but it stills fails with "Installation Failed". I don't think anyone has a stock recovery image (at least for TA-1045) to restore
At this point if you flash twrp/magisk you have no way of restoring to stock and accepting OTA updates. You will be stuck on the update you are on until someone figures out a way to take OTA updates or someone gets a hold of stock firmware images for your device (none yet for TA-1045)
EricH7001 said:
Which TA....?
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TA-1045
prg318 said:
What security update level of android 8.1 are you on?
Good luck getting 100% back to stock.
I have a TA-1045 and I unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk on the July patch of android 8.1. I get update prompts for the August security update, but the update won't install. I tried completely removing Magisk, but it stills fails with "Installation Failed". I don't think anyone has a stock recovery image (at least for TA-1045) to restore
At this point if you flash twrp/magisk you have no way of restoring to stock and accepting OTA updates. You will be stuck on the update you are on until someone figures out a way to take OTA updates or someone gets a hold of stock firmware images for your device (none yet for TA-1045)
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I'm on the June 1st level
prg318 said:
What security update level of android 8.1 are you on?
Good luck getting 100% back to stock.
I have a TA-1045 and I unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk on the July patch of android 8.1. I get update prompts for the August security update, but the update won't install. I tried completely removing Magisk, but it stills fails with "Installation Failed". I don't think anyone has a stock recovery image (at least for TA-1045) to restore
At this point if you flash twrp/magisk you have no way of restoring to stock and accepting OTA updates. You will be stuck on the update you are on until someone figures out a way to take OTA updates or someone gets a hold of stock firmware images for your device (none yet for TA-1045)
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I've was able to get back to stock recovery, system and vendor using the 1043 images and my phone still shows as a 1045. So even if removing magisk, it fails, cause I'm getting the installation failed as well. I'm curious if removing magisk and relocking the bootloader will help?
Mobe1969 said:
Mine isn't showing the update yet. I've got the TA-1068. Not unlocked or anything.
It is possible someone jumped the gun, releasing it too early, and they pulled it so can't download it.
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That makes sense cause I keep getting installation failure and not sure if it even downloaded.
Ozonethegreat said:
I've was able to get back to stock recovery, system and vendor using the 1043 images and my phone still shows as a 1045. So even if removing magisk, it fails, cause I'm getting the installation failed as well. I'm curious if removing magisk and relocking the bootloader will help?
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Since earlier today, I was able to flash my phone with the WW images and my phone still shows up as TA-1045, radio works and everything. The Pie update isn't showing up for me yet, but I was able to update to the august update this way
prg318 said:
Since earlier today, I was able to flash my phone with the WW images and my phone still shows up as TA-1045, radio works and everything. The Pie update isn't showing up for me yet, but I was able to update to the august update this way
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Are the WW images the chinese version I seen floating around here? If not, where did you get them?
Ozonethegreat said:
Are the WW images the chinese version I seen floating around here? If not, where did you get them?
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Nope - don't think its Chinse - it appears to be a "global" or international version. I don't really notice a difference from my original stock.
I got it from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...-to-flash-global-firmware-pl2-222e-0-t3831764
And was able to flash the "extracted version" with fastboot. I used some fastboot instructions that I found for a chinese rom and changed the filenames to match the worldwide filenames and it worked without the OST tool
Ozonethegreat said:
That makes sense cause I keep getting installation failure and not sure if it even downloaded.
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Can you locate the downloaded OTA and post it here?
Ozonethegreat said:
Soooo.....I just bought this phone, unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk.
Today, I got a system update notification saying Android Pie is ready to download.
Anybody else getting this and if so, I have to go back to 100% stock in order to upgrade right? Then unlock BL again?
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Were you able to update to Android pie?
Danny1976 said:
Were you able to update to Android pie?
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No I have not been able to. I don't even know where to look to see if the OTA even downloaded...
Ozonethegreat said:
Soooo.....I just bought this phone, unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk.
Today, I got a system update notification saying Android Pie is ready to download.
Anybody else getting this and if so, I have to go back to 100% stock in order to upgrade right? Then unlock BL again?
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Can you check under system partition and look for Data/OTA
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Ozonethegreat said:
No I have not been able to. I don't even know where to look to see if the OTA even downloaded...
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Check system partition under data/ota.
Ozonethegreat said:
No I have not been able to. I don't even know where to look to see if the OTA even downloaded...
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You should have pulled the OTA link from a logcat so the rest of us can download the update files and upgrade ourselves :/
I guess this OTA is a fake. No one with a Nokia 6.1 has reported getting an Android Pie notification. It's super rare that just one single person will get it.
Danny1976 said:
I guess this OTA is a fake. No one with a Nokia 6.1 has reported getting an Android Pie notification. It's super rare that just one single person will get it.
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This. Unless OP is an insider and just dun goof'd, then I fail to see this as legit.
Slightly off-topic:
I was on the June security patch on my 6.1 until yesterday. I received an OTA notification while half asleep and got all excited thinking it was the Pie update, but no, it was the July security patch. What's interesting is that immediately after installing I received the notification for the August security patch, and promptly installed that. May just be me being lucky, but that almost imples that HMD are trying to push out the latest security updates to devices as a way of preparing for Pie maybe?
neowlchaz said:
This. Unless OP is an insider and just dun goof'd, then I fail to see this as legit.
Slightly off-topic:
I was on the June security patch on my 6.1 until yesterday. I received an OTA notification while half asleep and got all excited thinking it was the Pie update, but no, it was the July security patch. What's interesting is that immediately after installing I received the notification for the August security patch, and promptly installed that. May just be me being lucky, but that almost imples that HMD are trying to push out the latest security updates to devices as a way of preparing for Pie maybe?
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I got the July update in July and then I got the August update on August. I don't know why yours took a while to update. Mine and other that I know, get the update for the month the same month.
My pixel 2xl is rooted , I rooted my device after getting november security patch
Now Whenever i check for OTA it says your system is uptodate
I thought it's because of the root so i unrooted it by opening magisk app
And choose (1- restore image 2- complete unroot)
My device restarts and i check for ota again but still its not showing any ota
shivangshukla said:
My pixel 2xl is rooted , I rooted my device after getting november security patch
Now Whenever i check for OTA it says your system is uptodate
I thought it's because of the root so i unrooted it by opening magisk app
And choose (1- restore image 2- complete unroot)
My device restarts and i check for ota again but still its not showing any ota
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Probably some leftovers hanging in there. You should try rolling an update with a factory image but take out the -w from the script first so you don't lose your data. That may not be enough though. Personally if your committed to taking ota updates I would do a completely fresh install and wipe the phone.
All that being said, I'm confused as to why you are routine about ota at all. Doing monthly updates with the factory updates is super easy and very fast.
I'm at work and don't have the time to get you all the details but if @Badger50 is around I'm sure he can copy paste the instructions from one of his many posts.
I didn't get the automatic OTA for December, February, or March,and so far no April. Just January came automatically. My Pixel 3XL was bought from Google, but runs on T-mobil. It is rooted via Magisk. Polling just says I'm up to date with the Jan 1 patch.
Are others getting the auto OTA's, and if so whats different?
I know I can sideload but there is a super easy way to keep root with Magisk and the auto OTA. I got the OTA's before December. I know Google had trouble in December, and January was a makeup.
I'm rooted on March's update. I can check for an OTA for you if that will help. I was not sure how to proceed without losing my root privledges!
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I just checked, it went to preparing and than it stopped. Hope that helps!
kmandel said:
I didn't get the automatic OTA for December, February, or March,and so far no April. Just January came automatically. My Pixel 3XL was bought from Google, but runs on T-mobil. It is rooted via Magisk. Polling just says I'm up to date with the Jan 1 patch.
Are others getting the auto OTA's, and if so whats different?
I know I can sideload but there is a super easy way to keep root with Magisk and the auto OTA. I got the OTA's before December. I know Google had trouble in December, and January was a makeup.
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There is no super easy way to keep root with Magisk and the auto OTA.
Read #9. B. in this Guide.
Note: If you're using the XDA app: Tap the three dot menu => tap load in Browser => tap three dot menu tap open in Browser.
Homeboy76 said:
There is no super easy way to keep root with Magisk and the auto OTA.
Read #9. B. in this Guide.
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#9B is exactly what I had been using and what I call the super easy way. The trouble is that I haven't got an auto downloaded OTA to use it with since January.
I'm not sure what you are telling me. Is there some way to use it with an OTA manually downloaded from the factory images?
kmandel said:
#9B is exactly what I had been using and what I call the super easy way. The trouble is that I haven't got an auto downloaded OTA to use it with since January.
I'm not sure what you are telling me. Is there some way to use it with an OTA manually downloaded from the factory images?
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Edit: Suggestion: Re-Read #9.B.
Homeboy76 said:
If you have been using #9.B. to install the OTA image and keep root. You should know OTA updates must be turned off to do #9.B., and factory images are not the same as OTA images.
Suggestion: Re-Read #9.B. (all of it) again.
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The toggle in Developer Options "Automatic System Updates, Apply updates when device restarts", refers to running the update automatically, not keeping Google from downloading the OTA either automatically or with a poll. I've always had the toggle as off.
As 9B says the toggle is "so it won’t install OTAs without your acknowledgement"
In the Months before December, and in January the OTA was auto downloaded and I had the option of installing it then, or later. I would just follow 9B at that point. This involves invoking "Settings → System → System Update" on the already downloaded OTA, but not letting it reboot until magisk does its magic.
On your other point, the factory image site has both the full system images and the OTAs. However, its not clear to me how I would trigger the manually downloaded OTA in the same way that "Settings → System → System Update" does with the auto/polled OTA downloaded by Google.
There is another thread on this were many if us are having the same issue while rooted. It seems Google is checking for root before it downloads now. And if you fail that check it isn't offered again. What I did this month was the Monday afternoon that it was released I unrooted, did not reboot and then manually checked for the update. It pulled 8t and applied....then I rerooted in Magisk to the other slot.
kmandel said:
I didn't get the automatic OTA for December, February, or March,and so far no April. Just January came automatically. My Pixel 3XL was bought from Google, but runs on T-mobil. It is rooted via Magisk. Polling just says I'm up to date with the Jan 1 patch.
Are others getting the auto OTA's, and if so whats different?
I know I can sideload but there is a super easy way to keep root with Magisk and the auto OTA. I got the OTA's before December. I know Google had trouble in December, and January was a makeup.
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Not trying to be a wise guy, but if you know how to sideload and root, why not just do it? Is it worth waiting weeks just to save yourself ten minutes?
kmandel said:
The toggle in Developer Options "Automatic System Updates, Apply updates when device restarts", refers to running the update automatically, not keeping Google from downloading the OTA either automatically or with a poll. I've always had the toggle as off.
As 9B says the toggle is "so it won’t install OTAs without your acknowledgement"
In the Months before December, and in January the OTA was auto downloaded and I had the option of installing it then, or later. I would just follow 9B at that point. This involves invoking "Settings → System → System Update" on the already downloaded OTA, but not letting it reboot until magisk does its magic.
On your other point, the factory image site has both the full system images and the OTAs. However, its not clear to me how I would trigger the manually downloaded OTA in the same way that "Settings → System → System Update" does with the auto/polled OTA downloaded by Google.
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My intention is to help not get into an argument concerning the specifics of #9.B.
If my response gave that impression, please accept my apology.
I edited my original post because of the A/B Devices portion of the instructions (#9.B.). The Pixel 3 XL is an A/B device.
In your original post, I belive you wanted to update the Pixel 3 XL firmware via OTA and keep root. I pointed you to a thread that provides a link to instructions to accomplish that (Update the Pixel 3 XL firmware via OTA and keep root) that was written by the developer of Magisk (topjohnwu).
You could do #4 'keep data' to install the factory image. Then do #9.A. to reroot. I only takes a few minutes.
TonikJDK said:
There is another thread on this were many if us are having the same issue while rooted. It seems Google is checking for root before it downloads now. And if you fail that check it isn't offered again. What I did this month was the Monday afternoon that it was released I unrooted, did not reboot and then manually checked for the update. It pulled 8t and applied....then I rerooted in Magisk to the other slot.
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Thanks, thats what I was guessing, that it wouldn't download if it knew I was rooted. I wonder if there is a way to hide root from their check, unrooting is a bit speculative since there isn't a trivial way back if they don't download.
spotmark said:
Not trying to be a wise guy, but if you know how to sideload and root, why not just do it? Is it worth waiting weeks just to save yourself ten minutes?
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Because its error prone. As far as I know there is no Android 10 Twrp for Pixel 3, and no reroot option other than 9B. The other route patching the boot img just seems messy .
kmandel said:
Thanks, thats what I was guessing, that it wouldn't download if it knew I was rooted. I wonder if there is a way to hide root from their check, unrooting is a bit speculative since there isn't a trivial way back if they don't download.
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One point I may not have been clear on. Once you fail this new check for a month you are done until next month. It won't try again.
If you don't pull the update you can reroot right away with Magisk with the Direct Install method since you have not rebooted. Not ideal but not the end of the world.
kmandel said:
Because its error prone. As far as I know there is no Android 10 Twrp for Pixel 3, and no reroot option other than 9B. The other route patching the boot img just seems messy .
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If you know how to ADB and fastboot, you don't need TWRP. The most usual reason for error is user error. Even then it's rare to brick a phone. Worst outcome is you lose your data and have to set your phone back up.
My phone is currently running QPGS30.82-141-13. I rooted my phone using Magisk. I just recently got a notification for the ....141-15 update, so I flashed the original boot file to unroot my phone. I downloaded the new firmware boot.img file anticipating patching it with Magisk once my phone is updated. The only problem is when the update gets to 22% it crashes and never completes the update. My question is after I unroot my phone to update is there something else I need to to do get a successful update? Thanks.