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Pixel LTE bands - North America and Rest of the world

Hi there,
Looking at Google Pixels page one can see that there is two versions of the product: NA and RoW.
Question is: is there any chance of buying a RoW version in US? Has anyone ever managed to buy the past Nexus International Versions in US before?
Thanks all and regards

Took me a few seconds to figure out what RoW means. I'd like to know this too.

In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
Sent from my LG-H818 using Tapatalk
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Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.

Abra_Cadabra said:
Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.
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To my understanding of supported LTE, UMTS, and GSM frequencies both Pixel Variants will work in UAE but Carrier Aggregation will probably not work. Not sure if the operators in the UAE support CA (yet) but if/ when they do this will probably something that wouldn't work on the NA variant. The only combination supported by the device for UAE bands is B7+B7, which may or may not work.
Whether this is a deal breaker or not is up to you to decide.

Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.

mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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pauleandro said:
Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).

mazroui said:
Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).
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Of course, no problem. I'll let you know if I find anything.
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I am also looking at this and cannot understand the CA limitations on the US device. Unless I am mistaken the Snapdragon X12 modem supports all combinations of supported frequencies. Yet the phones have different combinations for some reason. I do not know if Google is limiting this via software. Any thoughts?

scandalousk said:
Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?

Lots of overlap
There appears to be quite significant overlap, with the NA version supporting all or almost all LTE bands in most European countries and in many non-European countries as well (including all LTE bands in UAE):
NA version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/GPQkJ/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-td-lte-na-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
RoW version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/vWPw8/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-global-td-lte-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
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Hmm... just noticed that a few European countries that FrequencyCheck lists the NA version as having only partial LTE coverage for are because the site considers the NA version not to support band 8. But, according to Google's own spec page (madeby.google.com/phone/specs/ > Telephony), both the NA and RoW versions support B8. No idea if FrequencyCheck is a generally reliable source of info, as I just discovered the site a few minutes ago. I hope Google's listing for their own phone is correct, but the fact that B8 isn't included anywhere in the LTE 2xCA and 3xCA breakdowns for the NA version as it is for the RoW version makes me wonder...

scandalousk said:
Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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sirda said:
How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?
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Yes, the main European LTE bands are 3, 7 and 20, so it doesn't matter which version you have as both support all these bands. scandalousk is wrong.

Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)

scandalousk said:
Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)
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It'll support LTE, but won't support LTE Carrier Aggregation. LTE-Advanced is more than just Carrier Aggregation.

LTE-A support

Hi,
I am interested in buying this device. It does have North American LTE bands, but I am curious if device supports LTE-A (4CA)?
I can't seem to find any info on this.
If anyone has the device, can you tell us about LTE-A , 4CA or 3 CA, is this happening?

LimitsX said:
Hi,
I am interested in buying this device. Does it have North American LTE bands, but I am curious if device supports LTE-A (4CA)?
I can't seem to find any info on this.
If anyone has the device, can you tell us about LTE-A , 4CA or 3 CA, is this happening?
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wching02 said:
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Thanks! it does have LTE North American bands, im wondering if it supports LTE-A : LTE-Advance like aggregation of 3 LTE or 4 LTE Bands like Galaxy S8, Note 8 and oneplus 5, and pixel xl?

5g only works on Sim 2, SM-G9880

Hello, I have a strange issue with my device SM-G9880. I could not get 5g to work on sim1. It works only on sim2 slot. The option is available on sim 1 but does not connect to 5g. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

lovers74 said:
Hello, I have a strange issue with my device SM-G9880. I could not get 5g to work on sim1. It works only on sim2 slot. The option is available on sim 1 but does not connect to 5g. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Country and network.

west2cool said:
Country and network.
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Kuwait, ooredoo. Im not sure if its relevant since it works on sim 2 already. But it is strange honestly.

Can confirm the same here with the sm-g9880 Hong Kong model. I have a Telstra Aussie Sim that supports band 78 5g. Will only work in second Sim tray. Very strange. I'm guessing this is some kind of bug?

west2cool said:
Country and network.
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pafc66 said:
Can confirm the same here with the sm-g9880 Hong Kong model. I have a Telstra Aussie Sim that supports band 78 5g. Will only work in second Sim tray. Very strange. I'm guessing this is some kind of bug?
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It is a bug, and hopefully can be fixed by a software update

lovers74 said:
It is a bug, and hopefully can be fixed by a software update
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Just to let people know though. Once on the Hong Kong CSC , it doesn't support band 28 aggregation so won't do 4g plus . Another strange thing considering band 28 (700) works by itself.

Here are the bands support as confirmed by samsung Hong Kong
Dear MOHAMMADMOHAB
Thank you for contacting Samsung Hong Kong.
Regarding your questions, Hong Kong model S20 Ultra (SM-G9880) supports 5G network. Support frequency is as below:
5G Sub6 FDD: N1(2100)
5G Sub6 TDD: N78(3500),N79(4500)
4G FDD-LTE: B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B12(700),B13(700), B18(800),B19(800),B20(800),B25(1900),B26(850),B28(700)
4G TDD-LTE: B34(2010),B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)
3G WCDMA: B1(2100),B2(1900), B5(850),B8(900)
2G GSM: GSM850,GSM900,DCS1800,PCS1900
Also, the version is Snapdragon.
If we can provide assistance with any other matter, please contact us via phone at +852 36984698 (Hong Kong) or email. Looking forward to providing you with the care service you have come to expect from Samsung Hong Kong.
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pafc66 said:
Just to let people know though. Once on the Hong Kong CSC , it doesn't support band 28 aggregation so won't do 4g plus . Another strange thing considering band 28 (700) works by itself.
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I thinks it supports as confirmed by samsung Hong Kong
Dear MOHAMMADMOHAB
Thank you for contacting Samsung Hong Kong.
Regarding your questions, Hong Kong model S20 Ultra (SM-G9880) supports 5G network. Support frequency is as below:
5G Sub6 FDD: N1(2100)
5G Sub6 TDD: N78(3500),N79(4500)
4G FDD-LTE: B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B12(700),B13(700), B18(800),B19(800),B20(800),B25(1900),B26(850),B28(700)
4G TDD-LTE: B34(2010),B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)
3G WCDMA: B1(2100),B2(1900), B5(850),B8(900)
2G GSM: GSM850,GSM900,DCS1800,PCS1900
Also, the version is Snapdragon.
If we can provide assistance with any other matter, please contact us via phone at +852 36984698 (Hong Kong) or email. Looking forward to providing you with the care service you have come to expect from Samsung Hong Kong.

hulk_2020 said:
Here are the bands support as confirmed by samsung Hong Kong
Dear MOHAMMADMOHAB
Thank you for contacting Samsung Hong Kong.
Regarding your questions, Hong Kong model S20 Ultra (SM-G9880) supports 5G network. Support frequency is as below:
5G Sub6 FDD: N1(2100)
5G Sub6 TDD: N78(3500),N79(4500)
4G FDD-LTE: B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B12(700),B13(700), B18(800),B19(800),B20(800),B25(1900),B26(850),B28(700)
4G TDD-LTE: B34(2010),B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)
3G WCDMA: B1(2100),B2(1900), B5(850),B8(900)
2G GSM: GSM850,GSM900,DCS1800,PCS1900
Also, the version is Snapdragon.
If we can provide assistance with any other matter, please contact us via phone at +852 36984698 (Hong Kong) or email. Looking forward to providing you with the care service you have come to expect from Samsung Hong Kong.
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I thinks it supports as confirmed by samsung Hong Kong
Dear MOHAMMADMOHAB
Thank you for contacting Samsung Hong Kong.
Regarding your questions, Hong Kong model S20 Ultra (SM-G9880) supports 5G network. Support frequency is as below:
5G Sub6 FDD: N1(2100)
5G Sub6 TDD: N78(3500),N79(4500)
4G FDD-LTE: B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B12(700),B13(700), B18(800),B19(800),B20(800),B25(1900),B26(850),B28(700)
4G TDD-LTE: B34(2010),B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)
3G WCDMA: B1(2100),B2(1900), B5(850),B8(900)
2G GSM: GSM850,GSM900,DCS1800,PCS1900
Also, the version is Snapdragon.
If we can provide assistance with any other matter, please contact us via phone at +852 36984698 (Hong Kong) or email. Looking forward to providing you with the care service you have come to expect from Samsung Hong Kong.
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It supports band 28 (700) but it doesn't pair with other bands for 4g plus like it normally should. Specifically band 1 and band 3 - they normally both pair with band 700 but they haven't been on this firmware.

Any update my 5g not working I only have 4g+ I have sm-g9880 and I. Using ooredoo kuwait

Im having this issue after the last update I dont know what samsung have. But i discoverd a fix if you want 5G u have
To disable SIM 1 (Remove the sim or turn it off from the setting ) and use SIM 2 only then 5G will be back

were you able to get this to work? I want to order a G9860 Taiwan or hk model but won't if I can't use an sd card! Whatsapp and camera pics would rinse that internal storage straight away!

g9880 issue
hello there, i have china version g9880 but i want to flash euro firmware, like g988b firmware, can i flash it? will the phone be able to boot up?
what you suggest me to do, dual mesenger is showing only wechat, no whatsapp viber, any suggestion pllease

drhcode said:
hello there, i have china version g9880 but i want to flash euro firmware, like g988b firmware, can i flash it? will the phone be able to boot up?
what you suggest me to do, dual mesenger is showing only wechat, no whatsapp viber, any suggestion pllease
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No you can't unless you want a brick

pafc66 said:
It supports band 28 (700) but it doesn't pair with other bands for 4g plus like it normally should. Specifically band 1 and band 3 - they normally both pair with band 700 but they haven't been on this firmware.
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Hi,
I hab the same problems like you in Austria.
No CA with Band 20 and Band 3. Only Band 3 and Band 7 paired sometimes.
Regards

*Detection* said:
No you can't unless you want a brick
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so there is no way to make euro firmware
or to remobe china limitation
or maybe if i change csc.

drhcode said:
so there is no way to make euro firmware
or to remobe china limitation
or maybe if i change csc.
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Nope, no way, wrong hardware for that firmware

drhcode said:
hello there, i have china version g9880 but i want to flash euro firmware, like g988b firmware, can i flash it? will the phone be able to boot up?
what you suggest me to do, dual mesenger is showing only wechat, no whatsapp viber, any suggestion pllease
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Try changing CSC to 'TGY' or 'BRI'?

Hey there,
today I tried using 5g in Germany (vodafone) on my g9880 with tgy csc. It worked only in sim2. Does anyone know when it will probably be fixed or know some kind of workaround?
Thanks in advance !

salman saso said:
Im having this issue after the last update I dont know what samsung have. But i discoverd a fix if you want 5G u have To disable SIM 1 (Remove the sim or turn it off from the setting ) and use SIM 2 only then 5G will be back
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so 5G on sim 1 was working before the update and they just broke it? I was just wondering if it ever worked on sim 1. If it did before,i guess there is hope they will fix it in the future.

Hi. Is this still an issue? I've just ordered a s20+ 5g (snapdragon).

S20 FE 5g - difference between country versions

Hi, i'm about to buy online an S20FE 5g (preferably an 8GB), and i was wondering about the differences between different versions; i don't know what should i buy to use in Europe.
I could not find a comprehensive list, so i thought i could just post what i know; the more info you can share, the most complete the list will be.
SM-G781B (International)
SM-G781U (USA)
operator locked, should not buy for Europe
SM-G781U1 (USA Unlocked)
not a real dual sim (as stated here)
SM-G781W (Canada)
SM-G7810 (China, Hong Kong)
for this version there's a 8/128 model (is it good to use in Europe? they seems to come at a cheap price)
SM-G781N (Korea)
SM-G781V (Verizon)
Also, the /DS stands for "dual-sim hybrid tray" i suppose, based on this evidence
Based on this, frequencies support should be the same for models SM-G781B (International), SM-G781N (Korea), SM-G781U (USA), SM-G781V (Verizon):
GSM frequencies
850 900 1800 1900
Standard UMTS
850 900 1900 2100
Standard LTE
FDD LTE: 2600, 2100, 1900, 1800, 1700, 900, 850, 800, 700
TDD LTE: 2600, 2500, 2300, 1900
Standard 5G
FDD 5G: 1900, 1700, 850, 600
TDD 5G: 2500

The one listed on Bestbuy is SM-G781UZBMXAA. Can I use that outside of US, in Asia perhaps?

I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe

masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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Got the same phone delivered since a day in the Netherlands. Works fine, every language possible to choose, works fine on the networks etc.
I'm just trying to find a way to flash a ROM with another CSC to try to enable THL ( Thailand CSC) as to make phone-recording possible. Seems not easy to get rid of the Hong Kong CSC.
Even with some 'CSC change tricks' I don't get any further than to choose for TGY as the only one in the list.

amazinged said:
Got the same phone delivered since a day in the Netherlands. Works fine, every language possible to choose, works fine on the networks etc.
I'm just trying to find a way to flash a ROM with another CSC to try to enable THL ( Thailand CSC) as to make phone-recording possible. Seems not easy to get rid of the Hong Kong CSC.
Even with some 'CSC change tricks' I don't get any further than to choose for TGY as the only one in the list.
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hello there i am from the uk i also want to buy this phone the SM-G7810 version. because this version is cheaper. what are the big differences i am missing between this and the international version . is it just the updates because updates i can wait and dont mind. is the SM-G7810 version worse ? how does it perform

masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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hi i am from uk and want to buy SM-G7810 version . is this version ok ? more buggy or what is the differecne with international model

masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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Do you can find 5g? i cant find 5g with g7810 in France.

SirDarknight said:
The one listed on Bestbuy is SM-G781UZBMXAA. Can I use that outside of US, in Asia perhaps?
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Make sure it's compatible with your carrier. Contact your carrier for assistance.

masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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S20 FE 5G UW got Android 11 SM-G781V was released. Your device should have it alreday, visit settings and check updates.

hassanali11722 said:
hi i am from uk and want to buy SM-G7810 version . is this version ok ? more buggy or what is the differecne with international model
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No difference, just maybe LTE bands and per region code.

Niiha said:
Do you can find 5g? i cant find 5g with g7810 in France.
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The phone has 5G if it is a SM-G781U or SM-G781V

SamDungUser said:
The phone has 5G if it is a SM-G781U or SM-G781V
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G7810 is with 5G

Niiha said:
G7810 is with 5G
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OK so I guess SM-G781V, G7810, G781U are 5G Models. No confirmation seen about other variants.

Question CN MODEL DOES IT WORK WITH TMOBILE 5G

Hi. Did anyone purchase a oversea model and use in the United States? Are you able to use the 5 G with TMOBILE

I have a OnePlus that I purchased from BestBuy and is the LE2125 version I use on TM. Which model do you have? LE21?? It should work with TMobile 5g.

Creative_Ingenuity said:
I have a OnePlus that I purchased from BestBuy and is the LE2125 version I use on TM. Which model do you have? LE21?? It should work with TMobile 5g.
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LE2125 is the north america/global version. If they bought the CN version it is a different model and likely running ColorOS

You're going to be missing a LOT of bands on the Chinese version. You get 2, 4, 12, 41, but are missing 66 and 71. You're also only going to get one band of 5G, and missing out on 3, including the MMWave stuff.-
You will NOT have a good time on that phone.