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Updated Froyo 2.2

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Wait, what is this exactly?

Dude, where the hell have you been? There has always been a working froyo since day one. You are totally ignorant to figure that out just now..

Thanks for the kind words. I Know 2.2 has been here for awhile, but I have never been able to get it running properly till now.

A little harsh Hello? Also your breaking the ToS or whatever they call here with that tone... I would edit your post if I was you. Why your editing, why not reduce your silly signature size at the same time.

Serren said:
A little harsh Hello? Also your breaking the ToS or whatever they call here with that tone... I would edit your post if I was you. Why your editing, why not reduce your silly signature size at the same time.
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For sure but then you know what happens when you feed a troll.

Your comment doesn't even fit in the context of the first post, so what's your point? Your lack of caring in no way outweighs our lack of caring, so I guess we are at an impasse. Conclusion, these are the very same files you will find on the latest linux kernel zImages and modules website
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For sure but then you know what happens when you feed a troll.
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If you don't have anything better to say, don't say anything. Unless you want to turn this into a flaming war on here which I highly doubt it.
btw jz3 you just edited your first post so I guess you finally realized they are more builds out there and not just one.

thanks gona try it out

What is this exactly? Where did you get this system build from? It looks like stinebd's stock build, which i label as "reference" since its untouched.

jz3 said:
Don't believe the posts below, this is NOT Reefs build! See thumbnails below.
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Whose build is it then?

Reefermattness said:
What is this? The exact same thing as in my thread? lol.... wow ive seen it all now.
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Hmm, just got back into town and see the bashing continues. Reef, did you actually download and examine my file to come to this conclusion? I will take the high road here since I did appreciate Reef's dedication to this project. Thanks Serren & lordstrife for my back. This is my last post on these forums walking away disgusted.

no no no no no... i dont wanna see this. lets remember our common goals.
did anyone try this yet? i couldnt get it running just yet but i keep getting errors after the keyboard selection when i press run android.
havnt had too much time to tweak, but hey... cant we all jus get along? unity friends

hello00 said:
If you don't have anything better to say, don't say anything. Unless you want to turn this into a flaming war on here which I highly doubt it.
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Take your own advice!

I've been running Xdandroid for 3 months. I don't remember when I updated to 2.2..I believe it was July. All of my IPhone Geekers are asking me how to Jailbreak there devices(I haven't got a clue and don't plan on it). It is great work here and I am excited, looking forward to continuos great work. Positive injection..
Sent from my MSM
HTC Tilt 2

oh4sho said:
I've been running Xdandroid for 3 months. I don't remember when I updated to 2.2..I believe it was July. All of my IPhone Geekers are asking me how to Jailbreak there devices(I haven't got a clue and don't plan on it). It is great work here and I am excited, looking forward to continuos great work. Positive injection..
Sent from my MSM
HTC Tilt 2
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Tell your
Iphone friends to goto jailbreak me.com on their iPhones and follow the directions.

jz3 said:
This is my last post on these forums walking away disgusted.
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Good. We are all disgusted when people steal things and try to claim them as their own.
Maybe if you said where it came from, how you put it together, or highlighted HOW it's different from other builds that are already posted, we would be MUCH more receptive... But from your first post, it just looks like you stole it and tried to pass it off as something you built. That is just shameful, and will NOT be tolerated on this forum.

I didnt see any claim of ownership, unless the post was edited.
A history of the files and such of course would be helpful. And credit given to those who actually created the files is a no-brainer.
But still, I know XDA is the "big leagues", but cant we be a bit nicer? For all we know, this guy could be the next big thing. Just saying...

he edited his first post saying that he has a working froyo he never said it was his but it looked like it since he hasn't given any credit to whomever that build belongs to

in the OP he said it was not reef's build. He's not taking credit, but he's not giving it either, which is probably what bothered most of the people in this thread.
Only the guilty run like cowards IMO.

Roast him !!!

Please increase Thanks limit to more than 8

I understand not wanting to "devalue" the Thanks feature. I get that. But consider this scenario:
You get a brand new phone (like, my new LG G3!). You need a guide to how to hack that specific device, which may need a guide just to figure out which guide to use if there are carrier specific models! You need to figure out how to unlock the bootloader, which requires rolling back the firmware, using a flashing tool, installing a new image, etc. Then you need to root. Then you need a recovery environment. Then you need a ROM, and perhaps a kernel. And some software.
You can see where this is going. That first day, you might want to thank 20 different people for their contributions! These are legitimate thanks, you're just doing more on XDA that day then you usually are.
I really don't see why 8 is the limit in these scenarios. Why not increase it like 20? Still limited, but more realistic on "busy" days like this.

I presume that one of the main reasons why the limit is unlikely to be increased is due to what you already stated - devaluing the Thanks feature.
The Thanks count on people's profiles is, in my opinion, kinda irrelevant as is because it doesn't help gauge a members helpfulness/quality of work etc. That's proven by those members who post junk and can still get a bunch of Thanks on that post. Increasing the limit will increase the chances of that happening and will therefore mean the Thanks meter on members profiles will count for even less.
The limit has been 8 for quite a while and will probably stay that way because generally all 8 won't be used in a single day anyway. There are, of course, exceptions (just like the situation you described or perhaps you'd feel the need to use more if you hang around in some of the theme threads for example) but you could always use your available Thanks and then Thank the other posts the following day. I realize that may not exactly be ideal but is certainly a way around.
Using a mobile app to access the forums will give you more to use, so that's probably a more viable option for you, rather than waiting for a different day to hand them out.

What he said. Almost no one even pays attention to the thanks meter any more, only new members even bother with it. It was made pointless long ago.

@KidCarter93 @zelendel
Well, then, in that light, what would you suggest for me (and other XDA users) to do:
Continue giving people "Thanks!" when they have earned them even though nobody really cares about them anymore; or
Stop giving people "Thanks!" altogether because they are useless and have no value.
Which do you think is the best plan?

I think the thanks is a nice touch. I try to donate to people whenever possible. Some people don't want, or won't accept donations though. I'm sure those people still enjoy being thanked.
I think if the way the older members and site staff feel about Thanks is as indicated above, than the feature should just be removed.
Else, I think the limit should be removed. It's a quick change. I don't really see the harm in a post getting too many thanks.
I have left tabs open in my browser from yesterday, for the people I need to thank still. I still can't thank them because the time hasn't rolled around yet.

Protonus said:
I understand not wanting to "devalue" the Thanks feature. I get that. But consider this scenario:
You get a brand new phone (like, my new LG G3!). You need a guide to how to hack that specific device, which may need a guide just to figure out which guide to use if there are carrier specific models! You need to figure out how to unlock the bootloader, which requires rolling back the firmware, using a flashing tool, installing a new image, etc. Then you need to root. Then you need a recovery environment. Then you need a ROM, and perhaps a kernel. And some software.
You can see where this is going. That first day, you might want to thank 20 different people for their contributions! These are legitimate thanks, you're just doing more on XDA that day then you usually are.
I really don't see why 8 is the limit in these scenarios. Why not increase it like 20? Still limited, but more realistic on "busy" days like this.
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that's maybe 8 thanks right there in your OP (S OFF then root, recovery, ROM, guides), and it's a one time deal... Also that phone is the extreme case...
I don't see where you'd need 20 honestly.

ИΘΘK¡€ said:
@KidCarter93 @zelendel
Well, then, in that light, what would you suggest for me (and other XDA users) to do:
Continue giving people "Thanks!" when they have earned them even though nobody really cares about them anymore; or
Stop giving people "Thanks!" altogether because they are useless and have no value.
Which do you think is the best plan?
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I'd say continue to use them as you have been considering they still serve a purpose. They were added to the site so that it would cut down on posts simply saying "Thanks", thus cluttering the threads with posts which add no value to the threads. In that respect, the Thanks button has done it's job effectively.
The thing is, even though we've said that not many people really care about the Thanks, it's more the Thanks count which is irrelevant. A lot of members still like to receive Thanks as it's, generally, a quick and easy way for the member to know that they've been able to help someone out in one way or another.
I don't hand out many Thanks these days considering I don't often need help with anything and therefore wouldn't need to Thank someone for helping me out. But when I have been helped out, I will certainly give them a Thank considering that's what it's used for.
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I think the thanks is a nice touch. I try to donate to people whenever possible. Some people don't want, or won't accept donations though. I'm sure those people still enjoy being thanked.
I think if the way the older members and site staff feel about Thanks is as indicated above, than the feature should just be removed.
Else, I think the limit should be removed. It's a quick change. I don't really see the harm in a post getting too many thanks.
I have left tabs open in my browser from yesterday, for the people I need to thank still. I still can't thank them because the time hasn't rolled around yet.
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As mentioned above, it's not necessarily the Thanks button that I have a problem with but more the Thanks count (purely because in a lot of cases it leads to people wanting to get a lot of Thanks, for no real reason, simply so their Thanks meter can look more impressive as they can "beat" other members total Thanks.
That being the case, I still think the limit shouldn't be removed considering it can be a vague (sometimes more vague than others) way to gauge how helpful a member has been over their time as a member. The only part of the Thanks system which I'd like to see removed is the Thanks meter, but as it's still intact there's likely a reason the admins have got for leaving it as is.

ИΘΘK¡€ said:
@KidCarter93 @zelendel
Well, then, in that light, what would you suggest for me (and other XDA users) to do:
Continue giving people "Thanks!" when they have earned them even though nobody really cares about them anymore; or
Stop giving people "Thanks!" altogether because they are useless and have no value.
Which do you think is the best plan?
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The best thanks you can give anyone is by learning and sharing what you learned. Many developers are more excited and happy to see someone that took what they learned and then turned around and gave back to the community.
If it makes you feel better then by all means. Continue to give thanks.

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I'd say continue to use them as you have been considering they still serve a purpose. They were added to the site so that it would cut down on posts simply saying "Thanks", thus cluttering the threads with posts which add no value to the threads. In that respect, the Thanks button has done it's job effectively.
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Thank you, and agreed.
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The thing is, even though we've said that not many people really care about the Thanks, it's more the Thanks count which is irrelevant. A lot of members still like to receive Thanks as it's, generally, a quick and easy way for the member to know that they've been able to help someone out in one way or another.
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I also agree and am among the "a lot of members" you mentioned.
KidCarter93 said:
I don't hand out many Thanks these days considering I don't often need help with anything and therefore wouldn't need to Thank someone for helping me out. But when I have been helped out, I will certainly give them a Thank considering that's what it's used for.
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I am in pretty much the same boat - I mostly help other people nowadays, very rarely do I need or request help. However, I do generally use up all of my Thanks per day on posts that, for example, I don't want/need to reply to but I do want the member to know I saw it and liked it.
So, that's my two cents on the matter. Thanks again!
EDIT - @zelendel, thank you, too, for your sage advice. :good:

When does the Limit Refreh?
At which time in GMT+1 can i re-do 8 Thanks?

Hannah Stern said:
At which time in GMT+1 can i re-do 8 Thanks?
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You can use your next days thanks 24 hours after the previous days. So if you use your first Thank at 10AM, your first one the next day couldn't be used until 10AM

8 Thanks, 1 Limit, 0 Sense
KidCarter93 said:
I presume that one of the main reasons why the limit is unlikely to be increased is due to what you already stated - devaluing the Thanks feature.
The Thanks count on people's profiles is, in my opinion, kinda irrelevant as is because it doesn't help gauge a members helpfulness/quality of work etc. That's proven by those members who post junk and can still get a bunch of Thanks on that post. Increasing the limit will increase the chances of that happening and will therefore mean the Thanks meter on members profiles will count for even less.
The limit has been 8 for quite a while and will probably stay that way because generally all 8 won't be used in a single day anyway. There are, of course, exceptions (just like the situation you described or perhaps you'd feel the need to use more if you hang around in some of the theme threads for example) but you could always use your available Thanks and then Thank the other posts the following day. I realize that may not exactly be ideal but is certainly a way around.
Using a mobile app to access the forums will give you more to use, so that's probably a more viable option for you, rather than waiting for a different day to hand them out.
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It's very polite and kind to use the Thanks-Button.
Active users maybe need x 20 - every day!
In my opinion, this limit makes low-sense...
...maybe just for low-activity users.
And i think, that this limit should be removed or increased to 20 or so for Senior Members / Higher.
All the best!
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ИΘΘK¡€ said:
@KidCarter93 @zelendel
Well, then, in that light, what would you suggest for me (and other XDA users) to do:
Continue giving people "Thanks!" when they have earned them even though nobody really cares about them anymore; or
Stop giving people "Thanks!" altogether because they are useless and have no value.
Which do you think is the best plan?
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Good Question

Hannah Stern said:
It's very polite and kind to use the Thanks-Button.
Active users maybe need x 20 - every day!
In my opinion, this limit makes low-sense...
...maybe just for low-activity users.
And i think, that this limit should be removed or increased to 20 or so for Senior Members / Higher.
All the best!
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I understand that it's polite to use the Thanks button but there's still no need for nowhere near that many.
Even as a moderator we don't have that many available to us - we get 15.
I'm not as active on here as I once was, mainly due to working long shifts, but even when I was extremely active on here I wouldn't go through my allotted 8 per day. There's only been 1 or 2 situations where 8 wasn't enough. In those instances, I'd asked for help with an issue I was having (therefore I was thanking the posts that were helping me solve my issue) and I also thanked a couple of posts which didn't help me but would help a lot of other members and was a great resource. All I did in those situations was either wait a couple of hours for a Thank to become available again or would use the XDA app.
While my thanking habits are clearly different to yours, changes are only generally made to XDA if it will benefit the majority not a minority. I'm sure there are a ton of people who feel that 8 isn't enough but it's fine for the majority of members here. Also, increasing the limit to such an amount would likely lead to people asking/begging for more Thanks and would, in turn, devalue the Thanks count more so than it already is.

Thank's Limit
Warning! Long post!
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Protonus said:
I understand not wanting to "devalue" the Thanks feature. I get that. But consider this scenario:
You get a brand new phone (like, my new LG G3!). You need a guide to how to hack that specific device, which may need a guide just to figure out which guide to use if there are carrier specific models! You need to figure out how to unlock the bootloader, which requires rolling back the firmware, using a flashing tool, installing a new image, etc. Then you need to root. Then you need a recovery environment. Then you need a ROM, and perhaps a kernel. And some software.
You can see where this is going. That first day, you might want to thank 20 different people for their contributions! These are legitimate thanks, you're just doing more on XDA that day then you usually are.
I really don't see why 8 is the limit in these scenarios. Why not increase it like 20? Still limited, but more realistic on "busy" days like this.
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that's maybe 8 thanks right there in your OP (S OFF then root, recovery, ROM, guides), and it's a one time deal... Also that phone is the extreme case...
I don't see where you'd need 20 honestly.
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...but i do!
8 Thanks is mayybe a little bit too low.
The 10-Post Rule isn't a big problem because 10 posts are easy-peasy
But the limit to 8 thanks is a problem (not a big one)
I don't want to sound stupid right here, but if i reach the Limit, i make a list of post which i still want to thank :laugh:
You can thank somebody at the next day, if you're not able to use the thanks button right now.
...but why don't do it RIGHT NOW instead of that day?
Most of the users on XDA aren't Thank-Spammers.
There are more thank-friendly users that give a thanks for very small and big and useful posts (i am also one of these) but there are also members, who do this only for very useful posts.
Using the thanks button is just polite.
And if somebody knows the 8-Thanks-Limit, he/she's possibly saving on thanks.
I am not someone who begs for thanks, but it's very rare to find a member which gets thanks for useless things like thank me and i'll thank your post.
What is the limit actually for?
What do we want to prevent with this limit?
And why is the limit just 8?
I'm completely satisfied with my thanks-count of 39
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I understand not wanting to "devalue" the Thanks feature. I get that. But consider this scenario:
You get a brand new phone (like, my new LG G3!). You need a guide to how to hack that specific device, which may need a guide just to figure out which guide to use if there are carrier specific models! You need to figure out how to unlock the bootloader, which requires rolling back the firmware, using a flashing tool, installing a new image, etc. Then you need to root. Then you need a recovery environment. Then you need a ROM, and perhaps a kernel. And some software.
You can see where this is going. That first day, you might want to thank 20 different people for their contributions! These are legitimate thanks, you're just doing more on XDA that day then you usually are.
I really don't see why 8 is the limit in these scenarios. Why not increase it like 20? Still limited, but more realistic on "busy" days like this.
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You can say that again!
Also 15 is very low for a Forum Moderator i think.
How about Administrators like @svetius etc.?
What thanks limit have they actually got?
20?
I don't have anything agianst XDA but when i came new to XDA, i thought that anybody's count of thanks were unlimited!
A bad scenario for members who die, if they get no thanks is the limit of INCOMING Thanks. But this limit does not exist!
...and also - there's no Post Limit / Login per day Limit / Quote or Meniton users-per-day Limit. But a limit of thanks that you can give per day.
Hrm... let's increase to 20.
What problems will come, if we incrase to 20?
fortunately, there's no Dislike/Thumbs-down button for posts :laugh:

@Hannah Stern, I believe we all know and respect your personal opinion about a larger Thanks limit, but in all honesty, because of how already devalued Thanks are (i.e., some of the best devs have less than 1,000, while other people who make junk have upward of 5,000), I'd recommend just Thanking the people who you want to Thank unyil you reach your limit, and then just forget about Thanking people any more until the next time you can. Don't spend all your time worrying about how so-and-so won't get what he/she deserves unless I Thank their post - that is just unnecessary anxiety. Go with the flow, and try your best not to worry, as it's highly unlikely that the admins are going to raise the limit.

ИΘΘK¡€ said:
@Hannah Stern, I believe we all know and respect your personal opinion about a larger Thanks limit, but in all honesty, because of how already devalued Thanks are (i.e., some of the best devs have less than 1,000, while other people who make junk have upward of 5,000), I'd recommend just Thanking the people who you want to Thank unyil you reach your limit, and then just forget about Thanking people any more until the next time you can. Don't spend all your time worrying about how so-and-so won't get what he/she deserves unless I Thank their post - that is just unnecessary anxiety. Go with the flow, and try your best not to worry, as it's highly unlikely that the admins are going to raise the limit.
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I don't really worry about it.
And i know, that admins may very unlikely set the limit up.
So what's the real value/worth of the Thanks Button, if nobody is able to use it very properly?
How about Administrators (Svetius/MikeChannon/BitPushr), what thanks limit do they have?
What problems will occur, if the Numbers get increased?
I already know that what you told me but thank you however
...and have a good day!

Hannah Stern said:
I don't really worry about it.
And i know, that admins may very unlikely set the limit up.
So what's the real value/worth of the Thanks Button, if nobody is able to use it very properly?
How about Administrators (Svetius/MikeChannon/BitPushr), what thanks limit do they have?
What problems will occur, if the Numbers get increased?
I already know that what you told me but thank you however
...and have a good day!
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What are their thanks? Who knows but to be honest what would they use them for.
I'll be honest thanks count are really pointless. Only new members even pay attention I know 90% of the devs don't look at the number or even use them. I have even been asked by a few for a way to disable it completely.

Hannah Stern said:
I don't really worry about it.
And i know, that admins may very unlikely set the limit up.
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You're on the right track!
Hannah Stern said:
So what's the real value/worth of the Thanks Button, if nobody is able to use it very properly?
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In reality, there is pretty much none. I just consider them a fun feature - not really anything of actual value. By the way, we actually are using it properly - the limit is the "proper" use of Thanks, according to the admins.
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How about Administrators (Svetius/MikeChannon/BitPushr), what thanks limit do they have?
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Nobody really knows except the admins themselves, but I'd give it a safe guess that they don't have one. I mean, since they are, after all, the admins, what would be the point of making a limitation for themselves?
Am I right in that logic?
Hannah Stern said:
What problems will occur, if the Numbers get increased?
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The main problem would be that members have even more opportunities to Thank people who often don't need or want excessive Thanks. 8 is a liberal number in this case IMHO - I mean, would you be happier if it were 5?
xD

ИΘΘK¡€ said:
You're on the right track!
In reality, there is pretty much none. I just consider them a fun feature - not really anything of actual value. By the way, we actually are using it properly - the limit is the "proper" use of Thanks, according to the admins.
Nobody really knows except the admins themselves, but I'd give it a safe guess that they don't have one. I mean, since they are, after all, the admins, what would be the point of making a limitation for themselves?
Am I right in that logic?
The main problem would be that members have even more opportunities to Thank people who often don't need or want excessive Thanks. 8 is a liberal number in this case IMHO - I mean, would you be happier if it were 5?
xD
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5 Per day is horribly / terribly low.
Why don't increase the Thank's limit, if it's just "a useless fun feature" ?

Hannah Stern said:
5 Per day is horribly / terribly low.
Why don't increase the Thank's limit, if it's just "a useless fun feature" ?
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To tell you the truth, I don't really know or care that much - my inability to Thank people after 8 a day is not very high on my priority list. If you want to really try, you can respectfully PM @svetius and explain your dilemma.
From my point of view, this topic is closed - I don't need to post here again. I've stated my personal opinion, answered your questions, and am ready to move on.
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Those of us Corrupted

Starting a post for those of us who are stuck without the factory images corrupted. I am one of the idiots who made a backup but didn't save it to my computer so for now I am stuck with a paper weight. If any kind helpful soul has any suggestions for I or the rest of us who may be stuck please let me know as I'm willing to try anything. I'm pretty good with twrp adb and fastboot commands. Thanks otherwise I can wait on the images from Razer I guess just wish we knew when?

Hello there i am posting here full backup factory image of all partitions before to modify anything
https://mega.nz/#F!aRZ1DaZQ!_wBY_8zSkaML97pVbwwOSA

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kirschdog1 said:
After discussing this with a few heavy hitters in the community I have decided to send it in through the RMA process. There is no guarantee we will ever see the system images and after multiple talks with Razers support staff I don't feel good about waiting while my phone depreciates in value. Will probably sell it at swappa for a one plus 5t if we don't get system images by March 1st. Sad cause I really wanted this phone to be great but no development and no system images really set the stage for a failed first model. I'll update this post when I get it back from RMA to verify it was indeed accepted and fixed......fingers crossed.
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Development is meaning less and less as the push for security is becoming tighter. Soon no device will be able to be secure while having open source development.
If you do get the 5t make sure to flash an aosp based rom before you even set the device up. Mainly with them being caught again mining data and sending to to China.

kirschdog1 said:
After discussing this with a few heavy hitters in the community I have decided to send it in through the RMA process. There is no guarantee we will ever see the system images and after multiple talks with Razers support staff I don't feel good about waiting while my phone depreciates in value. Will probably sell it at swappa for a one plus 5t if we don't get system images by March 1st. Sad cause I really wanted this phone to be great but no development and no system images really set the stage for a failed first model. I'll update this post when I get it back from RMA to verify it was indeed accepted and fixed......fingers crossed.
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Hi, any update?

bowielee said:
Hi, any update?
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kirschdog1 said:
Yes they accepted my rma and are in the process of shipping a new one back to me. I will update this thread once I have received the new phone. However given we are still waiting for factory images I might just sell it and look for something else with more development....pixel XL 2 or one plus 5t.
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I'm actually really quite disappointed in the time this is taking. I actually had a Nextbit Robin and the factory images were out almost immediately. What on earth is going on here?
A major contributor to me getting this phone was knowing Nextbit were in some way involved and they were very developer friendly. Being a big Razer fan too and hearing about these awesome speakers and silky smooth 120Hz I was totally sold. If I'd known development was this non existent (not the devs faults!), I wouldn't have bought this phone.

kickassdave said:
I'm actually really quite disappointed in the time this is taking. I actually had a Nextbit Robin and the factory images were out almost immediately. What on earth is going on here?
A major contributor to me getting this phone was knowing Nextbit were in some way involved and they were very developer friendly. Being a big Razer fan too and hearing about these awesome speakers and silky smooth 120Hz I was totally sold. If I'd known development was this non existent (not the devs faults!), I wouldn't have bought this phone.
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Being an anarchist myself, ive been more than tempted to start a boycott on the razer phone (even while owning it myself) - support staff are uninformed, phone is still in beta stages, and no fun for anyone wishing to do development.
Its like the company is trying to rival apple instead just for gamers. Imo they missed the mark a bit and throttled the phones performance by not developing the software fully.
Ive added manual controls for the camera and installed Viper plus an adblocker just so when you play games theres not the constant risk of pop up ads..... Nice idea for a phone not but not well executed, suprising considering the nextbit was its predecessor. And now Razer are talking about the Razer 2, its a joke :silly:

CptClubs said:
Being an anarchist myself, ive been more than tempted to start a boycott on the razer phone (even while owning it myself) - support staff are uninformed, phone is still in beta stages, and no fun for anyone wishing to do development.
Its like the company is trying to rival apple instead just for gamers. Imo they missed the mark a bit and throttled the phones performance by not developing the software fully.
Ive added manual controls for the camera and installed Viper plus an adblocker just so when you play games theres not the constant risk of pop up ads..... Nice idea for a phone not but not well executed, suprising considering the nextbit was its predecessor. And now Razer are talking about the Razer 2, its a joke :silly:
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That's what makes me the most upset. How are you talking about the Razer 2 before even fixing some major bugs on ur current 2 month old phone.

Not sure what everyone expected. It's their first device and nextbit only had one device before being bought. It wasn't even that good of a device. So of course this oem will take years to catch up.
As for development, that is becoming g less of a priority for oems. Due to the security risks. Also being its razor you have to expect most of the stuff to be completely closed Sourced and any open source files will lose lots of tweaks.

zelendel said:
Not sure what everyone expected. It's their first device and nextbit only had one device before being bought. It wasn't even that good of a device. So of course this oem will take years to catch up.
As for development, that is becoming g less of a priority for oems. Due to the security risks. Also being its razor you have to expect most of the stuff to be completely closed Sourced and any open source files will lose lots of tweaks.
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All I am asking for is the factory images....is that to much to ask for after 3 months?

kirschdog1 said:
All I am asking for is the factory images....is that to much to ask for after 3 months?
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Well that depends. Some of the drivers maybe licensed so that they are only in the wild on devices and not allowed to be released in any other fashion. Many things could be causing them not to release it. I could easily see many reasons not to release it.

Will ... We can open thread in there forum and make request to razer to release the stock image and make many people replay on it. And if they close it we can make another one.

Disappointing Razer is violent against rooting

qahtfa03 said:
Will ... We can open thread in there forum and make request to razer to release the stock image and make many people replay on it. And if they close it we can make another one.
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Nice way to get yourself banned from their forums all together. But sure, because annoying people always works.
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wing_addict_usa said:
Disappointing Razer is violent against rooting
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More and more oems are becoming that way. Root is a security hole and they can't really afford them.

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Nice way to get yourself banned from their forums all together. But sure, because annoying people always works.
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More and more oems are becoming that way. Root is a security hole and they can't really afford them.
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It's ez to create another account
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It's ez to create another account
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I have been on the other side of the fence and let me tell you that it is pointless. The tools available to sites go all the way up to the isp when needed. If someone doesn't want you on their site bad enough. Trust me. You won't be. And hiding behind a VPN or changing your iP. Don't do anything.
But you are more then welcome to give it a go.

Razer needs to pay the price for keeping root hard

Wow some of you people are quite delusional how this works. Razer never released this as a developers phone, and rooting it is very easy.. I don't know what are are all on about. No, they haven't released factory images yet, but Iirc they don't HAVE to. They met there legal obligations by releasing the kernel source. Yes some of you didn't follow they procedures for twrp and messed up your phone but that's not razer fault. Technically they don't even have to do RMA on those phones but from what I understand they have.
They have already stated they WILL be releasing factory images soon, but it's just not out yet, now you wanna throw a temper tantrum on there forums? How about everyone just calm down and wait.. I know it sux being without a phone, and such a kickass one at that, but you made the choice... At least you know a fix is coming right?

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Wow some of you people are quite delusional how this works. Razer never released this as a developers phone, and rooting it is very easy.. I don't know what are are all on about. No, they haven't released factory images yet, but Iirc they don't HAVE to. They met there legal obligations by releasing the kernel source. Yes some of you didn't follow they procedures for twrp and messed up your phone but that's not razer fault. Technically they don't even have to do RMA on those phones but from what I understand they have.
They have already stated they WILL be releasing factory images soon, but it's just not out yet, now you wanna throw a temper tantrum on there forums? How about everyone just calm down and wait.. I know it sux being without a phone, and such a kickass one at that, but you made the choice... At least you know a fix is coming right?
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I agree with you. Mine was dead but fixed it and working again on stock with help of @BakaSenpai. We tried both some ideas and put them together and worked. Still i have the corrupted at the start but working great without issues so far.

RN8PRO Being left out - Again!

TWRP just announced official support for the RN8 and RN8T on the Snapdragon 665 but the RN8PRO is still being left out...
I'm very stubborn and i defend my purchase decisions like it's my life but even I'm starting to get a bit frustrated...
https://www.xda-developers.com/twrp-supports-redmi-note-8-8t-xiaomi-mi-9-realme-x2-pro/
It's a damn shame because this is such an awesome handset....

Helhound0 said:
TWRP just announced official support for the RN8 and RN8T on the Snapdragon 665 but the RN8PRO is still being left out...
I'm very stubborn and i defend my purchase decisions like it's my life but even I'm starting to get a bit frustrated...
https://www.xda-developers.com/twrp-supports-redmi-note-8-8t-xiaomi-mi-9-realme-x2-pro/
It's a damn shame because this is such an awesome handset....
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Lol can't you don't know that TWRP founder will be getting this device, how can you think like that?

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It's a damn shame because this is such an awesome handset....
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This. It really is a nice device.
Some people are taking scrap and accept it as a full meal;
and maybe that's fine, cause maybe it's all we are going to get.
Remember that the Redmi Note 7 still dont have a official version to this very day.
The current root methods described here on XDA for the RN8Pro feels like…
Mashed potatoes with more or less broken english and few drops of luck, just for good measure...
Sorry, I got sidetracked a little bit;
Stay stronK M8, maybe it's still coming. Maybe.

NMRH said:
This. It really is a nice device.
Some people are taking scrap and accept it as a full meal;
and maybe that's fine, cause maybe it's all we are going to get.
Remember that the Redmi Note 7 still dont have a official version to this very day.
The current root methods described here on XDA for the RN8Pro feels like…
Mashed potatoes with more or less broken english and few drops of luck, just for good measure...
Sorry, I got sidetracked a little bit;
Stay stronK M8, maybe it's still coming. Maybe.
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Exactly. And adding to that, the amount of misinformation and blatant liters around this handset is just absolutely mind-blowing. At some point you might see someone casually ranting about how it's best not to expect anything positive about this device and then you turn your head around only to see the same person claiming to be a ROM developer that almost have a fully functional ROM for it.... XIAOMI didn't even release the touchscreen driver for the phone!!! Yet some "developers" out there somehow has a "working ROM" and looking for testers.... ???

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Exactly. And adding to that, the amount of misinformation and blatant liters around this handset is just absolutely mind-blowing. At some point you might see someone casually ranting about how it's best not to expect anything positive about this device and then you turn your head around only to see the same person claiming to be a ROM developer that almost have a fully functional ROM for it.... XIAOMI didn't even release the touchscreen driver for the phone!!! Yet some "developers" out there somehow has a "working ROM" and looking for testers.... ???
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Btw sorry to say that but the source code is complete you will understand if you know some git.See i am not just blant this is the proof:
In folder
drivers/input/touchscreen/fts8719
Create path
include/firmware/
Create empty file - focal_g7_01.i
Touch driver working ?

girishjangir7 said:
Btw sorry to say that but the source code is complete you will understand if you know some git.See i am not just blant this is the proof:
In folder
drivers/input/touchscreen/fts8719
Create path
include/firmware/
Create empty file - focal_g7_01.i
Touch driver working
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Hey, just wondering. Is there any information about panel used? Tried 10 apps to check but none can gave me screen panel manufacturer name

ScarletVeil said:
Hey, just wondering. Is there any information about panel used? Tried 10 apps to check but none can gave me screen panel manufacturer name
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Its NVT for me

girishjangir7 said:
Btw sorry to say that but the source code is complete you will understand if you know some git.See i am not just blant this is the proof:
In folder
drivers/input/touchscreen/fts8719
Create path
include/firmware/
Create empty file - focal_g7_01.i
Touch driver working ?
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Well you got me there. But i hope you know where this is coming from. There's a lot riding on this device so we can't afford to have anyone mess with its reputation.
On a side note, I'm willing to try things out, now that i know you're legit. That's if you still needa tester. Let me know. ?

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Well you got me there. But i hope you know where this is coming from. There's a lot riding on this device so we can't afford to have anyone mess with its reputation.
On a side note, I'm willing to try things out, now that i know you're legit. That's if you still needa tester. Let me know. ?
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But my only concern is that if Xiaomi doesn't give legit unbrick tool we can't do anything coz when we flash through some third party tool also it needs Xiaomi server permission:crying:

Snapdragon root ever possible?

So I got a great deal from sprint about half off a S20u And I jumped thinking I'd be able to root it. it's already been 30 days and I'm going to return the device since I thought it would be able to be rooted. will a root ever be available. What device can I purchase from a US carrier that is able to be rooted and remove the bloat.

bman55 said:
So I got a great deal from sprint about half off a S20u And I jumped thinking I'd be able to root it. it's already been 30 days and I'm going to return the device since I thought it would be able to be rooted. will a root ever be available. What device can I purchase from a US carrier that is able to be rooted and remove the bloat.
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to offer an unlocked bootloader on any US variants. There are no US Carrier Branded or US Unbranded devices which can be unlocked. If you want no bloatware then the US Unbranded device is an option but if you need root you'll have to consider a Snapdragon International or Exynos Global variant. On these devices Carrier Aggregation and Warranty Repair would be challenging at best.

Dose one plus make devices that ship with unlockable bootloader?

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Dose one plus make devices that ship with unlockable bootloader?
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OnePlus 7 and 8 have bootloaders which can be unlocked.

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bman55 said:
So I got a great deal from sprint about half off a S20u And I jumped thinking I'd be able to root it. it's already been 30 days and I'm going to return the device since I thought it would be able to be rooted. will a root ever be available. What device can I purchase from a US carrier that is able to be rooted and remove the bloat.
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Will the bootloader be unlocked in the future, is that a possibility, haven't been on the forums in 7-8 years. This phone is incredible, but the bloatware makes it useless kills battery can't disable apps. Someone help im over 30 days and don't know if I wanna return. I'm paying $15USD/MONTH FOR 18 MONTHS with buyout for $250USD so it's quite an offer to refuse. But I need root access and a custom rom on THIS baby!

bman55 said:
Will the bootloader be unlocked in the future, is that a possibility, haven't been on the forums in 7-8 years. This phone is incredible, but the bloatware makes it useless kills battery can't disable apps. Someone help im over 30 days and don't know if I wanna return. I'm paying $15USD/MONTH FOR 18 MONTHS with buyout for $250USD so it's quite an offer to refuse. But I need root access and a custom rom on THIS baby!
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The only one who can answer this is a well placed Samsung Executive, certainly not a CSR. No one has a crystal ball in this regard but I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon. Bloatware is the downside when you acquire a Carrier Branded Device and the $$$ you saved lose their value in the long run. Nowadays most carriers offer decent pricing on month to month prepaid without a long term commitment. Better off IMHO to wait a few months for price drops and feedback before purchasing any device. Saving a couple hundred on a smartphone you really weren't suited for doesn't add up.

bman55 said:
Will the bootloader be unlocked in the future, is that a possibility, haven't been on the forums in 7-8 years. This phone is incredible, but the bloatware makes it useless kills battery can't disable apps. Someone help im over 30 days and don't know if I wanna return. I'm paying $15USD/MONTH FOR 18 MONTHS with buyout for $250USD so it's quite an offer to refuse. But I need root access and a custom rom on THIS baby!
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who ever said it wasnt possible?

Can you post some links or not.
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gavilan2010 said:
Can you post some links or not.
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if i could i would have already.. not my method and for other reasons im not posting any info on it at this time

elliwigy said:
if i could i would have already.. not my method and for other reasons im not posting any info on it at this time
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gavilan2010 said:
Can you post some links or not.
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elliwigy said:
who ever said it wasnt possible?
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What carrier is this?

bman55 said:
What carrier is this?
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sprint/tmobile

I have an unlocked S20 G981U, TMK (Metro mobile). My security update is still June 1st! Seriously?? What am I supposed to do with this? I can't root it, I haven't gotten updates. WTH is going on?

elliwigy said:
if i could i would have already.. not my method and for other reasons im not posting any info on it at this time
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So, your entire post was to show YOU have root, but not to provide any information at all on how you did it...when OP (and others, myself included) would like to know how it's done?
....thanks for nothing...

mistermidas said:
So, your entire post was to show YOU have root, but not to provide any information at all on how you did it...when OP (and others, myself included) would like to know how it's done?
....thanks for nothing...
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Well, it answers the OPs question, if it's legit.

mistermidas said:
So, your entire post was to show YOU have root, but not to provide any information at all on how you did it...when OP (and others, myself included) would like to know how it's done?
....thanks for nothing...
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point is to show its absolutely possible. And I cannot post something that A, isnt my method to post and B, its not allowed to be posted on xda. So take it how you want doesnt matter to me.

mistermidas said:
So, your entire post was to show YOU have root, but not to provide any information at all on how you did it...when OP (and others, myself included) would like to know how it's done?
....thanks for nothing...
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Wow. Disrespecting elliwigy is not good. That guy has provided things for the public in the past and thats how you do him? Its because of people like you that xda gets tainted. Hell I wouldn't release it.
And one last thing:
ITS NOT HIS WORK TO SHARE!! READ

avid_droid said:
Wow. Disrespecting elliwigy is not good. That guy has provided things for the public in the past and thats how you do him? Its because of people like you that xda gets tainted. Hell I wouldn't release it.
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ITS NOT HIS WORK TO SHARE!! READ
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Who are you, his girlfriend? Go away.
To me it just seemed like a post bragging about him having root when others can't get it and obviously wanna know to do so. But if he can't or won't share how he achieved it, then whatever...it is what it is. But nowhere did I see him say he needed you to defend him, especially AFTER he already responded.
I'm done with the topic now though... moving on...

mistermidas said:
Who are you, his girlfriend? Go away.
To me it just seemed like a post bragging about him having root when others can't get it and obviously wanna know to do so. But if he can't or won't share how he achieved it, then whatever...it is what it is. But nowhere did I see him say he needed you to defend him, especially AFTER he already responded.
I'm done with the topic now though... moving on...
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Baby

mistermidas said:
Who are you, his girlfriend? Go away.
To me it just seemed like a post bragging about him having root when others can't get it and obviously wanna know to do so. But if he can't or won't share how he achieved it, then whatever...it is what it is. But nowhere did I see him say he needed you to defend him, especially AFTER he already responded.
I'm done with the topic now though... moving on...
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just because someone achieves something and let ppl know it is possible but cant provide details for understandable reasons such rules is not in any way bragging about anything.
I dont make the rules on here, in fact I support the rules and enforce them even considering I am a moderator.
Just because someone doesn't want to tell you details (because its simply not allowed) doesn't give you the right to judge people and post negatively about them in public. If you have any issues with me or anyone else I suggest you send them a PM next time.
Showing people that it is possible gives hope to those who feel it is imppssible and hopefully encourages them to keep at it.
I have no reason to lie to anyone and as you can tell uf you did any research on my past activities/posts you should see that every time I achieved root I posted freely to XDA so everyone could take advantage of it. So hopefully you understand if I could post publicly I would have already done so.
I did try to help people out and had them PM me and was advised not to do so even via PM because it is a paid service of which selling these types of services are not allowed on XDA. It is a paid service because the means to unlock the bootloader requires a purchase from a third party. There is no way to provide a "free" method as well as said service is device specific so there is no universal method and each unlock is tied to one device.
Think of it similar to those websites that offer sim unlocks. They are paid services tailored to one specific device. Paid services are not allowed on XDA since typically people use these methods to profit and in the past there have been a number of shady schemes hence why rules were formulated.
I hope this clears things up and you refrain from name calling and negatice remarks to people such as your last comment I quoted.

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Who are you, his girlfriend? Go away.
To me it just seemed like a post bragging about him having root when others can't get it and obviously wanna know to do so. But if he can't or won't share how he achieved it, then whatever...it is what it is. But nowhere did I see him say he needed you to defend him, especially AFTER he already responded.
I'm done with the topic now though... moving on...
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Instead of complaining take the initiative and hit someone up on telegram that you know has done this and im sure they would be glad to guide you too the proper place. Like elliwigy said it’s against xda rules to post such stuff here so why complain about it here. There are threads in s10 and s20 threads with people posting stuff for US unlocked bootloader phones. Hit those people up on telegram or outside of xda because people want too abide by the rules of xda and xda does not want this stuff posted on their forums.
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