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I'm currently on att with a note 2 and i've switched to t-mobile and will be recieving a new phone in the mail soon. Should i return it and just flash a t-mobile rom onto my current phone? or should i just sell my att one on craigslist and keep the new t-mobile phone? Any possible loss of features or functionality by sticking with the phone i have?
Keep the tmo one.
It dosent have lte yet, so hang on to att one too I suggest but tmo has added aws band.
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prepaidguy9081 said:
Keep the tmo one.
It dosent have lte yet, so hang on to att one too I suggest but tmo has added aws band.
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I don't understand your answer to the OP.
I'm in the exact same situation as the OP. I'm with AT&T but they just took my unlimited data plan away so I'm probably going to switch to T-Mobile.
Are there any bands that the T-Mobile Note 2 has that can't be unlocked on the AT&T model? According to Wikipedia both AT&T and T-Mobile version of the Note 2 have AWS. I heard that you can enable the high speed bands on AT&T's model to work with T-Mobile. Is taht not true?
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I don't understand your answer to the OP.
I'm in the exact same situation as the OP. I'm with AT&T but they just took my unlimited data plan away so I'm probably going to switch to T-Mobile.
Are there any bands that the T-Mobile Note 2 has that can't be unlocked on the AT&T model? According to Wikipedia both AT&T and T-Mobile version of the Note 2 have AWS. I heard that you can enable the high speed bands on AT&T's model to work with T-Mobile. Is taht not true?
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Tmo hasnt released the update to let tmo gnotes2 work on their lte network, because its not up and running most places... Possibly only update customers who are in Kansas City.
Not too clear if att gnotes2 with att specific firmware would work on tmo's network. Theoretically it should work, but their might be some radio issues that give u shoddy service. Unlocking phones is illegal now, so idk if u could sim unlock ur phone through att to work for tmo anyways. Might have to go through ebay or something to do so.
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I would like to use my T-Mobile Galaxy S3 on Straight Talk on the AT&T network. I'm currently using Solavei running under T-Mobile's network, but T-Mobile isn't cutting it in my area. I really want to run on the AT&T network. Solavei only runs on TMO.
TMO is great when I can get 4G but it sucks when others in the same physical location can get AT&T to 4G and TMO is E or G network.
Examples of where AT&T is working great but TMO isn't are: up in the canyons (Millcreek, SLC, Utah), over the dunes at the beach (Topsail, NC), at my house (SLC, UT).
Questions:
1. Can I do this? Run a T-Mobile Galaxy S3 on Straight Talk on the AT&T network?
2. If so, If I buy a sim from Straight Talk what does it take to make sure it runs on the AT&T network and not on TMO? I'd really hate to go through all that and still end up on TMO and not AT&T. I've already had an AT&T sim running in my Galaxy S3 and everything was working great. I just didn't want to pay AT&T prices.
3. I've heard that Straight Talk will switch from TMO to AT&T depending on what area on the country you live in. Is this true? Is there anyway to override this?
4. I've heard that you can't buy AT&T sims anymore from Straight Talk. There seems to be a market now for AT&T sims that were available at the beginning of the year but are not now.
PS: I'm trying to do this for the TMO Note 2 also.
Yeah you can use tmobile's straight talk on at&t network. Just pop in sim and select roaming and available network select at&t. Should connect no problem
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rwitmer said:
I would like to use my T-Mobile Galaxy S3 on Straight Talk on the AT&T network. I'm currently using Solavei running under T-Mobile's network, but T-Mobile isn't cutting it in my area. I really want to run on the AT&T network. Solavei only runs on TMO.
TMO is great when I can get 4G but it sucks when others in the same physical location can get AT&T to 4G and TMO is E or G network.
Examples of where AT&T is working great but TMO isn't are: up in the canyons (Millcreek, SLC, Utah), over the dunes at the beach (Topsail, NC), at my house (SLC, UT).
Questions:
1. Can I do this? Run a T-Mobile Galaxy S3 on Straight Talk on the AT&T network?
2. If so, If I buy a sim from Straight Talk what does it take to make sure it runs on the AT&T network and not on TMO? I'd really hate to go through all that and still end up on TMO and not AT&T. I've already had an AT&T sim running in my Galaxy S3 and everything was working great. I just didn't want to pay AT&T prices.
3. I've heard that Straight Talk will switch from TMO to AT&T depending on what area on the country you live in. Is this true? Is there anyway to override this?
4. I've heard that you can't buy AT&T sims anymore from Straight Talk. There seems to be a market now for AT&T sims that were available at the beginning of the year but are not now.
PS: I'm trying to do this for the TMO Note 2 also.
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You have to SIM unlock your phone first as it won't take an at&t SIM out of the gate - either call T-Mobile for the code or you can follow this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023709
Note that if you are the latest radio (MD5), you will have to downgrade it to LJC or LJA for the radio unlock option to appear - the radio images can be found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880987
That trick works on the Note 2 as well, however, I don't know if the radio is an issue with the Note 2 you will have to check the Note 2 forum but chances are if Samsung updated it, you will have to downgrade the radio to get the option back.
StraightTalk will not sell you a SIM for at&t if you don't have at&t service in the area - at&t's StraightTalk SIM does not roam on T-Mobile except rarely as at&t's roaming agreement with T-Mobile is extremely limited.
One final thing, I wish you good luck. StraightTalk was a horrible experience for me and at&t throttles you like nobody's business. On the plus side though, Tracfone's wholesale contract with at&t means that you get access to their POSTPAID network which means you get better coverage than at&t's own prepaid or any other MVNO of at&t for that matter.
richardlibeau said:
Yeah you can use tmobile's straight talk on at&t network. Just pop in sim and select roaming and available network select at&t. Should connect no problem
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This is not what the OP was asking. He wants to switch his T-Mobile branded S3 with T-Mobile branded service to StraightTalk using an at&t SIM and service.
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
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getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
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Unfortunately, can't be done as Verizon uses CDMA and ATT uses GSM. Means radios are completely different.
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How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
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impossible until the carriers and technology says so, sorry CDMA+GSM dont mix unless they say so
getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
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What all have u tried so far? I have a friend with a verizon droid dna running a straight talk (at&t) sim, and everything works, calls, text, mms, and internet...
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What all have u tried so far? I have a friend with a verizon droid dna running a straight talk (at&t) sim, and everything works, calls, text, mms, and internet...
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As stated above, Verizon and att use two entirely different networks. The radio hardware is different. Unless the droid dna is a gsm phone that should not be possible.
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As stated above, Verizon and att use two entirely different networks. The radio hardware is different. Unless the droid dna is a gsm phone that should not be possible.
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I'm fully aware that they are entirely different networks, but it works. Yes, the verizon dna is cdma, but it also takes a sim card, im assuming because of the 4g lte...
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I'm fully aware that they are entirely different networks, but it works. Yes, the verizon dna is cdma, but it also takes a sim card, im assuming because of the 4g lte...
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That phone is also GSM capable. At that point it's all a matter of the APN settings. It can not be done with the S3 on any carrier (swapping from CDMA to GSM)
getyasome said:
How to get a verizon sim card to work on a at&t samsung Galaxy s3.
Can I make ATT Samsung Galaxy S3 work on a verizon sim card?
The phone is rooted and unlocked.
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I think you can get the Verizon S3 to work on AT&T (calls/text/edge data). I know you can do that on T-Mobile. But you won't be able to get the AT&T S3 to work on Verizon for two reasons;
1) The radio would need to be hacked to enable the CDMA radio, and the information needed to hack the radio is not available. The US variants all received the same radio chip, just some of the frequencies are turned off. For instance, the AT&T S3 wasn't able to get the t-mobile AWS band working until the guy working for t-mobile released some radio files. The AT&T/T-Mo S3s have the CDMA radio, but it's not enabled
2) Verizon won't allow the phone on the network, as the IMEI is not registered on their network. This is probably the most important reason. You would need to spoof the IMEI from another verizon phone, which is not something that can be discussed here.
You are better off switching with someone who has a Verizon S3, that wants an AT&T S3.
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I think you can get the Verizon S3 to work on AT&T (calls/text/edge data). I know you can do that on T-Mobile. But you won't be able to get the AT&T S3 to work on Verizon for two reasons;
1) The radio would need to be hacked to enable the CDMA radio, and the information needed to hack the radio is not available. The US variants all received the same radio chip, just some of the frequencies are turned off. For instance, the AT&T S3 wasn't able to get the t-mobile AWS band working until the guy working for t-mobile released some radio files. The AT&T/T-Mo S3s have the CDMA radio, but it's not enabled
2) Verizon won't allow the phone on the network, as the IMEI is not registered on their network. This is probably the most important reason. You would need to spoof the IMEI from another verizon phone, which is not something that can be discussed here.
You are better off switching with someone who has a Verizon S3, that wants an AT&T S3.
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It will work with T-Mobile because it's a GSM network. The radio can't be hacked. It's a limitation of the hardware itself. It's 2 completely different pieces of hardware.
The sim card on Verizon phones is ONLY used to access Verizon's LTE, without that simcard you'd have regular 4G only on a Verizon phone. That sim card/or phones acts in no way possible as GSM accessible.
So no it will NEVER work regardless of what you do.
And don't fall for ads on the internet about any Verizon,Sprint, or any CDMA phone to work on GSM networks.
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The sim card on Verizon phones is ONLY used to access Verizon's LTE, without that simcard you'd have regular 4G only on a Verizon phone. That sim card/or phones acts in no way possible as GSM accessible.
So no it will NEVER work regardless of what you do.
And don't fall for ads on the internet about any Verizon,Sprint, or any CDMA phone to work on GSM networks.
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This is not entirely true for all Verizon phones. The DNA, S4, Note 2, LG G2 (among others) are sim-unlocked out of the box, and will work with AT&T/T-Mobile (the note 2 requires some hacking in order to add the APN settings). Also, as I recall, if I took the sim card out of my GNex and DNA, I did not have service. It would only allow for emergency calls. No talk/text/2G/3G.
For the Galaxy Nexus, the phone is 100% guaranteed to not work on any GSM network.
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This is not entirely true for all Verizon phones. The DNA, S4, Note 2, LG G2 (among others) are sim-unlocked out of the box, and will work with AT&T/T-Mobile (the note 2 requires some hacking in order to add the APN settings). Also, as I recall, if I took the sim card out of my GNex and DNA, I did not have service. It would only allow for emergency calls. No talk/text/2G/3G.
For the Galaxy Nexus, the phone is 100% guaranteed to not work on any GSM network.
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Read the first sentence
"Only to get Verizon's LTE"
Unlocked phones work "globally"
Which means you'd get Voice and EDGE/3G at the most from other GSM networks, given you've provided the correct APNs. Locked phones, which carry that sim card for Verizon's LTE ONLY. Either way only a few phones will work. The rest are useless.
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It will work with T-Mobile because it's a GSM network. The radio can't be hacked. It's a limitation of the hardware itself. It's 2 completely different pieces of hardware.
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No. They use the same hardware. Msm8960. It should support GSM CDMA WCDMA LTE and Td-scdma. Almost all the network. It's mostly because of the lock of the radio/nv.
Remember, the op is asking if he can use an at&t galaxy s3 on Verizon. It's not going to work.
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I think you can get the Verizon S3 to work on AT&T (calls/text/edge data). I know you can do that on T-Mobile. But you won't be able to get the AT&T S3 to work on Verizon for two reasons;
1) The radio would need to be hacked to enable the CDMA radio, and the information needed to hack the radio is not available. The US variants all received the same radio chip, just some of the frequencies are turned off. For instance, the AT&T S3 wasn't able to get the t-mobile AWS band working until the guy working for t-mobile released some radio files. The AT&T/T-Mo S3s have the CDMA radio, but it's not enabled
2) Verizon won't allow the phone on the network, as the IMEI is not registered on their network. This is probably the most important reason. You would need to spoof the IMEI from another verizon phone, which is not something that can be discussed here.
You are better off switching with someone who has a Verizon S3, that wants an AT&T S3.
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i can verify that i an running AT&T straight talk service on my sch-i535 (Verizon Galaxy s3)
I have had success using a Verizon sg3 mother board on att's network although I was only able to get 2g. What I did was rooted phone, ran region unlock app, next I let the phone sit for a day, then a did a factory reset from the phones menu not custom recovery. Then when going through the set up wizard it prompted me to insert sim card then it said it was not an approved sim and gave options to continue or finish, selected finish, said complete and about 3-5 mins after booting up I got signal bars and phone was working. Although the hardware used are different these are dual band phones.
Never give up keep trying
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I moved to Charlottesville, VA recently and the Tmobile coverage is really awful. Is it possible to take my rooted Tmobile Note 3 and use it on the Verizon network? I know it works on AT&T as I put my buddy's SIM card in and was able to connect to the network, but Verizon has the best coverage out here.
If I have to flash a new ROM or change the radio that's fine, I just need to know how to do it and if it's even possible.
No, not possible.
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No, not possible.
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But the Verizon version can come to Tmobile, right?
o_0 a t-mobile device to Verizon. lol I thought questions like this died in 2005
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Lucas155 said:
I moved to Charlottesville, VA recently and the Tmobile coverage is really awful. Is it possible to take my rooted Tmobile Note 3 and use it on the Verizon network? I know it works on AT&T as I put my buddy's SIM card in and was able to connect to the network, but Verizon has the best coverage out here.
If I have to flash a new ROM or change the radio that's fine, I just need to know how to do it and if it's even possible.
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It is impssible to use a T-Mobile phone on a Verizon network. T-Mobile and AT&T run on the GSM type of network and Verizon and I believe Sprint run on CDMA which aren't capatible. It doesn't matter if you are rooted or not.
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It is impssible to use a T-Mobile phone on a Verizon network. T-Mobile and AT&T run on the GSM type of network and Verizon and I believe Sprint run on CDMA which aren't capatible. It doesn't matter if you are rooted or not.
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I've seen several instances of Verizon customers using their Note 3 on Tmobile. Just thought it might go the other way.
Verizon LTE devices come SIM unlocked for legal reasons (Verizon made a deal with the FCC not to SIM lock their devices in exchange for being able to use LTE Band 13 700 MHz).
Some of their older/"first-gen" LTE devices don't support GSM at all (e.g. Galaxy Nexus). But all nowadays do. The Galaxy S4 and newer support T-Mobile's LTE band. LTE is a GSM-based technology, and people travel as well. So pretty much all of their phones are GSM-enabled nowadays. Same for Sprint (except their phones will reject any US carrier SIMs specifically).
Anyways, the answer is no. AT&T and T-Mobile devices don't have CDMA enabled. And even if they did, Verizon and Sprint don't allow competitors' phones onto their networks.
Hi,
I am thinking about moving my Galaxy S4 and moto RAZR from Verizon wireless to iwireless (a t-mobile affiliate). I understand that I need to unlock my phone but I am unable to find out if I move it to iwireless if I will still have 4G data. The iwireless sales rep said that I will still have voice and 2.5G service but couldn't tell me if I would still have 4G.
I was looking at this table I found on a site explaining how to unlock the phone but I don't know enough about the subject to make an informed decision.
Samsung Galaxy S4
Can someone confirm whether or not my Verizon S4 or RAZR can be unlocked to work with the iwireless/t-mobile 4G network?
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Hi,
I am thinking about moving my Galaxy S4 and moto RAZR from Verizon wireless to iwireless (a t-mobile affiliate). I understand that I need to unlock my phone but I am unable to find out if I move it to iwireless if I will still have 4G data. The iwireless sales rep said that I will still have voice and 2.5G service but couldn't tell me if I would still have 4G.
I was looking at this table I found on a site explaining how to unlock the phone but I don't know enough about the subject to make an informed decision.
Samsung Galaxy S4
Can someone confirm whether or not my Verizon S4 or RAZR can be unlocked to work with the iwireless/t-mobile 4G network?
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It seems as though your grasp of the subject is strong enough to know that it might work as you'd like - and it might not. You need to call back and ask to speak to a CSR that actually knows what bands their service works on so they can give you accurate information. That's kind of their job...
Also -
Verizon LTE operates on Band 13 while T-Mob operates on Band 17, both of which carry completely different spectrums; this means no LTE on either of your unlocked phones.There's a slim possibility that you will get intermittent 3G but the most likely scenario is that you will get talk, text and 2G / 2.5G only.
Band 17? My Verizon branded S4 is getting T-Mobile LTE. I'm fairly sure its on band 4.
T-mobile is band 4 which is 1700/2100 mhz. The Verizon s4 is not capable of 1700mhz. But if you are getting 4G it may be because your area is using 2100 mhz. I am specifically moving to iwireless and I was told they use the 1700 mhz band.
Bsliv, how did you unlock you phone?
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Bsliv, how did you unlock you phone?
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Many Verizon phones are sim unlocked, so it's most likely unlocked as well
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Many Verizon phones are sim unlocked, so it's most likely unlocked as well
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Yes, I think all Verizon LTE capable phones are unlocked.
The I545 (Verizon S4) can receive LTE on band 4. T-Mobile serves LTE on band 4. The coincidence works well.
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Yes, I think all Verizon LTE capable phones are unlocked.
The I545 (Verizon S4) supports LTE on band 4. T-Mobile serves LTE on band 4. The coincidence works well.
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My RAZR MAXX HD definitely wasn't SIM unlocked... For the life of me I couldn't get it to work when I moved to ATT from Verizon... Not even GSM would work.
I just need to get some clarification from you guys. Are your VZW phones bought in the US and being in the US on t-mobile's or iwireless's 4g network. Because after I made the first post I went to the phone unlocking place in my local mall and talked to there techs, they said that the VZW S4 will not get 4g. I have also been doing extensive searches online and keep finding half saying it will work and half saying it won't. I have a feeling that the ones that work are working outside of the US as I found posts saying as such.
I read some where that the razr you had to flash the radio FW to get GSM to work properly.
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I got my vzw S4 off craigslist but 99% sure it was purchased in the USA. I'm on T-Mobile's $50/mo plan.
Verizon's LTE phones are sim unlocked due to an agreement with the FCC when vzw purchased some bandwidth.
I think there was an update around 03/2014 that enabled band 4 on the I545. Then had to make some apn changes and tell the modem to use gsm/lte on band 4.
The one quirk I have is it will say "no service" after a reboot and until I make or receive a voice call. Then I get the "T-Mobile" instead of "no service" and things work as they should.
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I got my vzw S4 off craigslist but 99% sure it was purchased in the USA. I'm on T-Mobile's $50/mo plan.
Verizon's LTE phones are sim unlocked due to an agreement with the FCC when vzw purchased some bandwidth.
I think there was an update around 03/2014 that enabled band 4 on the I545. Then had to make some apn changes and tell the modem to use gsm/lte on band 4.
The one quirk I have is it will say "no service" after a reboot and until I make or receive a voice call. Then I get the "T-Mobile" instead of "no service" and things work as they should.
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I'll have to go to iwireless and have one of the tech put a SIM card in my s4 and razr to give it a try.
The only options I have for the network mode on my s4 is
Global, LTE/CDMA, and GSM/UMTS. Can you post you settings?
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I was just at iwireless today and tested my phone with their network and was unable to get it to work. iwireless is a t-mobile affiliate but they do not use 4G LTE in my area. Their system runs on a 3.8G 1700MHz which the VZW S4 does not have. I am told that they will be starting to switch all the 2G radios in the area to 4G LTE later this year, which should work with my VZW S4. So I am just going to have to wait till the end of the year and go back and test it again.
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My RAZR MAXX HD definitely wasn't SIM unlocked... For the life of me I couldn't get it to work when I moved to ATT from Verizon... Not even GSM would work.
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That phone was before VZW bought the band 4 spectrum and cut the deal with the FCC. All VZW LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Any AWS capable VZW phone is SIM unlocked and can use LTE on band 4. The S4 got it with an update last year.
I am probably going to do the $30 plan soon and plan to use my VZW S4. I am not going to port my number right away in case the service in my area sucks (doubtful, live in DFW in dense surburbia).
I went out off town this weekend and went to a t-mobile store and was able to get 4g service after adding the correct APN. But it is too bad that iwireless that is in my area does not use that band yet, they are staring to upgrade to that band later this year. Until then my s4 will only get edge service.
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I was able to get H+ on my s4 from Verizon to tmobile by changing the network mode to global and the App to fast.T-mobile.com
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With the announcement of the T Mobile $100 2 line unlimited everything, I'm also interested in bringing my Verizon S4 MDK boot loader phone to T Mobile, but want to do my research first-- is it as simple as signing up for T Mobile and getting one of their SIMs and then-- would I be able to flash any of the ROMs in the S4 T Mobile Dev forum or is the T Mobile S4 a completely different device? Any caveats? Would I have to LokiDoki after the flash? Would I need to flash a T Mobile specific radio too (currently on i545vrufnk1)? Or is that all just overcomplicating things? Would i be able to just adjust the APNs on my current ROM after inserting a T Mobile SIM?
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Quick reply to my post and for anyone else interested-- there's a post here that talks about using a 4.4.2 T-Mobile ROM by Fenny on the a Verizon S4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57453019 I've tried it and LTE works great, MMS works properly, phone calls work as well. I'm on the Verizon i545vruamdk bootloader and Verizon i545vrufnk1 radio. The ROM is a T-Mobile m919uvufnb4 by Fenny.
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