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currently own the mate 9 for about 2 years . best phone i have had. fulfills all my demands. Only problem im still Android 7 with EMUI 5. other than that, this phone is amazing.
My wife needs a new phone since she currently is with the Redmi note 5. I thought about giving her my mate 9 which will be a major upgrade for her needs and getting myself a new one. After searching and reading for a while now, i have come up with 3 options that are similar to the mate 9 in terms of what I would like to have in a phone: mate 20 and mate 20x and honor view 20
I would have loved to have the 20x, but its way too expensive ATM (about $900 in my country) so it will stay as a dream. So this leaves me with the mate 20 and honor view 20 . Mate pro is not an option also, as its too expensive and i dont like the wide notch and prefer not to have a curved and tall screen but a wide one just like the mate 9.
About my usage... Im a light-medium user. I dont play much. Mostly watching Netflix and lots of browsing and sometimes listening to music, a little bit of FB and also whatsapp.
Camera wise, only taking pictures of family. not really going on a trip and using my phone to take pics of the view. I have a Canon camera for that, so I would like to have a good camera ofcourse but i dont need it to be superb and the best in the market.
Mate 20 will cost me about $670 for the 4/128 in my country or $724 for the 6/128 if I order from Ebay.
View 20 will cost $760 for the 8/256
Here are the questions:
About the Mate...I have heard mixed reviews about the screen quality and especially the speakers not being really quality ones or at least having the stereo effect. All in all, is it worth its price? Would like to hear unbiased opinions and especially in comparison to the mate 9 (screen and speakers).
Would the 4 RAM be enough?
Also, would the view 20 be a better buy although a little more expensive ?
I got Mate 9, Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro.
1. EMUI is still disgusting but it works.
2. Speaker are a huge downgrade, compare to Mate 9 and Mate 10 but is still better than phone like OnePlus 6T
3. The screen is 10/10. Its bright and sharp. It's not Like on Mate 10 but its still very good.
4. The battery life is the best one I ever got. I get easy 8h SOT with 2 full days, both sim on LTE. Its like Redmi Note with 4000 mAh but with power. Mate 9 and Mate 20 are behind and this already got good battery life
5. Fingerprint is almost the same (10/10)
6. Charging is the same
7. Speed of the phone is sick. Almost no waiting for nothing
8. Camera is better but Videos are still trash
Bad is not good, some midrange Xiaomi's get better support.
EMUI eats a lot of memory (600-700MB RAM free) at 4GB version.
The Honor brand will get even badder support in firmware, no dual speaker and this hole... I don't know
I will never buy again Huawei phones. The UI kills me, bootloader is closed and firmware support is bad. Hardware is almost 10 of 10.
I know Xiaomi has better support but there is no Xiaomi phone now that interests me
The problem is you pay for premium but you get firmware updates like 200$ Xiaomi line. Xiaomi is just a example.
From 6GB to 4GB, from 1440p to 1080p and from very good speaker to good speaker + you pay more but still get bad support.
I bought my Mate 20 10.12.2018, get 2 updates, security patch level still 01/2019 and we enter 03/2019.
I pay for Mate 10 545€ on first week and for the Mate 10 Pro 499€ 60 days after release. This time I pay over 600€ 60 days after release and still **** firmware with bad support.
Was there supposed to be another security patch in February?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Huawei-Mat...rentrq:3a86484a1690aa484547e5c8fffbfd2b|iid:1
The 6GB version for $724( 637€ ) including shipping and taxes in my country. Its not cheap, just wanna make sure its worth it.
none of the stores here in my country sell the 6gb model, only the 4gb. and its a premium phone with a premium price of $660. paying $660 for 4GB... Although the 6GB variant isnt that common from what i noticed
Funny thing, with that price I buy 2 redmi note 7
U will lose a lot with 6GB. No VoLTE, no Huawei Cloud...
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U will lose a lot with 6GB. No VoLTE, no Huawei Cloud...
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what do you mean lose a lot with 6GB?
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what do you mean lose a lot with 6GB?
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You will get 2GB RAM more but a lot of things will not work like VoLTE. A friend bought it, I think Indonesia versiin, with 6GB RAM, no VoLTE, no Wifi-Calling, Huawei Cloud sad "not supported"... So he sell it and buy 4GB version of Mate 20 and anything works
ok thank you. so its better to get the 4GB. Do you feel the 4gn is enough?
Is the mate 20 worth the premium price?
In my country, mate 20 6/128 costs around 520usd, so it's a very reasonable price for me. That's why I chose mate 20 and it's so far so good till now, no thing to complaint, no competitors in this price range.
4GB is ok but I have only 700MB left, with my Xiaomi I got 2.2 GB left.
Go for the 6/128 Mate 20, you wont regret it.
The guy saying the 6/128 does not support VoLTE or Wi-Fi Calling is simply bs. Mine has both working on many networks, i travel a lot, and tested my device to the max, EVERYTHING works flawlessly. If something does not work then it means either the network does not support it, or the user is... ya know lol.
And before anyone goes bananas at me, i will provide any screenshots that proves what i said above.
Get the 6/128, stay away from the 4/128, the difference in RAM and cash will make the difference noticeable, trust me on that!
Cheers!
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The guy saying the 6/128 does not support VoLTE or Wi-Fi Calling is simply bs.
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U can ask your provider over Twitter. O2 Germany sad "no VoLTE and no VoWIFI for international Mate 20, just for the West-EU version".
I had mate 9 great dvice
I sold it.. to get Honor Note 10
but sold it due to lack of google support ...
bought dis mate 20 ...
Do you guys think we will ever get a Mate 30 X ?
I mean Huawei have just released Mate 20 X 5G and they also work on Mate X, i'm not so sure about a future mate 30 X afaik there's already leaks for Mate 30/pro but nothing hints about a mate 30 X.
I'd like to think they would still release one, and it seems to have been a fairly popular device, certainly in the UK it's very readily available from high street stores.
If not, it's likely the 'X' brand will just be for foldables
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I'd like to think they would still release one, and it seems to have been a fairly popular device, certainly in the UK it's very readily available from high street stores.
If not, it's likely the 'X' brand will just be for foldables
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Ye i hope too they will still release and not replace it for the Fold because it's not the same price range.
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Do you guys think we will ever get a Mate 30 X ?
I mean Huawei have just released Mate 20 X 5G and they also work on Mate X, i'm not so sure about a future mate 30 X afaik there's already leaks for Mate 30/pro but nothing hints about a mate 30 X.
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I’m thinking that they will. It’s a very popular phone, and its price hasn’t dropped as severely as the 20 pro. Of course introducing a 30x could be “shooting them selves in the foot” as it’ll detract sales from the 5g version.
AFAIK it sold significantly better than the 20 Pro in some territories.
Sales are not the problem ... or you could say that they are. Huawei, like all the other big device makers are betting the farm on folders for huge new margins and increased profits. That's part of the reason they're constantly narrowing the screens. They want you to pay €1500-2000 to get 16:9 or wider aspect.
That's why phablets have been pretty much abandoned this year. If you see any at all, they're likely to be at 19.5:9, to make them narrow enough not to interfere with the folders.
IMO the 18.5:9 on the Mate 20 X is the absolute limit as far as reasonable usability is concerned. Anything worse than that, you lose so much of the screen when dealing with media, and it's pretty appalling for browsing and general productivity.
IMO if we see one, it'll share the same aspect as the Mate 20 Pro and P30 series. 19.5:9.
It's also why Xiaomi have canned the Max and Note series.
It is surprising though that none of the smaller players (who can't yet develop folders) has had the balls to do some 16:9 or 16:10 phablets. They'd sell like hot cakes.
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Do you guys think we will ever get a Mate 30 X ?
I mean Huawei have just released Mate 20 X 5G and they also work on Mate X, i'm not so sure about a future mate 30 X afaik there's already leaks for Mate 30/pro but nothing hints about a mate 30 X.
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It’s probably 50/50, if they release a 30x it’ll detract from the 20x 5g sales. On the others hand it’s a really popular phone and it’s keeping its value more than the 20 pro.
Hopefully the Mate30X will get the AMOLED screen from Samsung instead of from LG.
And the Netherlands doesn't have the Mate20X officialy but long live shipping. I ordered mine from a German eBay seller.
30x could be a reality thanks to also Asus ROG phone 2.
Huawei has a special Ace with the 20X, it needs a bit more refinement and they could nail a super impressive phone.
Derpling said:
30x could be a reality thanks to also Asus ROG phone 2.
Huawei has a special Ace with the 20X, it needs a bit more refinement and they could nail a super impressive phone.
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Yeah but how many people are actually using the 20X as a 'gaming' phone as its initial launch marketing dictated? Very few IMO, hence why it was quickly dropped.
It's a big phablet for power users.
Like I say, if we get a 30X, I'll be amazed if they haven't significantly narrowed it, so as to make sure they don't cannibalise any folder sales. This is also the reason why I'm sure we won't see bezel-less tablets - no holding them isn't the reason why - you just put bevels on the rear panel.
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/07/asus-may-have-made-the-most-powerful-android-phone-yet/amp
Interests me more than a 30x... Still sour about the locked bootloader I am.
s327374 said:
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/07/asus-may-have-made-the-most-powerful-android-phone-yet/amp
Interests me more than a 30x... Still sour about the locked bootloader I am.
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I'd love one. If it was 16:9.
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Interests me more than a 30x... Still sour about the locked bootloader I am.
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Nice specs, but only 6.6 inch and camera not great like Huawei.
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Nice specs, but only 6.6 inch and camera not great like Huawei.
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hmmm - darn - very good point. Fingers crossed for the oneplus 8 then?
I unlocked my bootloader, but came back to emui, , i had some problems with the translated rom and omnirom and rr have too many bugs :/
Huawei should make their conference in less than a month, nothing about a 20 X successor has filtered only 30 and pro.
I guess it's rip mate 30 X, we will never see you :crying:
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Huawei should make their conference in less than a month, nothing about a 20 X successor has filtered only 30 and pro.
I guess it's rip mate 30 X, we will never see you :crying:
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You must read all the news...there is a 30X...
https://www.******************/huawei-mate-30-and-mate-30-pro-specifications-price-and-availability/
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You must read all the news...there is a 30X...
https://www.******************/huawei-mate-30-and-mate-30-pro-specifications-price-and-availability/
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what happened to your link ? besides after the slash it says mate 30 and mate 30 pro
Do you have any working link, can't find any news on google about mate 30 X, specs about it, when you can find plenty of mate 30 and pro infos.
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what happened to your link ? besides after the slash it says mate 30 and mate 30 pro
Do you have any working link, can't find any news on google about mate 30 X, specs about it, when you can find plenty of mate 30 and pro infos.
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They dont let links as i see...go to huaweicentral dot com and you will find it posted on August 26, 2019
Didn't know it wasn't allowed but I found it, that's funny, the article is exact from today
I hope they are right as they're the first giving some clues about it like "Mate 30 X expected to get bigger screen than 7.2 inches" damn
I also followed huawei central for this but news are very unclear. Just few infos, no one spec.
On the other hand, last autumn 20x also was surprise, some rumours were that 20 pro will have huge display, but not much talk about 20x...
So, maybe
check this out guys, there might actually be a mate 30 x )))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vPJYhtbAo
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check this out guys, there might actually be a mate 30 x )))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vPJYhtbAo
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Yes, they written about the m30x on huawei central, not much writing, but still it confirm the m30x [emoji1303]
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Yes, they written about the m30x on huawei central, not much writing, but still it confirm the m30x [emoji1303]
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Huawei event is next week, i hope that they announce the Mate 30 X. :fingers-crossed:
https://youtu.be/EMnnKKNer44
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Huawei event is next week, i hope that they announce the Mate 30 X. :fingers-crossed:
https://youtu.be/EMnnKKNer44
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Ooohhhhhhhh yeeeaaaahhhhhh, me 2.
Will be awesome and think or really hope it comes with 5G to, but if it don't, they make a 4G and a 5G version ofc, so it will not really be a problem i guees
Last year i heard about m20x very late.
I had my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra since 2016 and heard about Mi Max 3 which i bought, but it had a fake rom and i sold it after 1 month.
Then i bought the Samsung Note 8, but sold it again after 1 week, it was all to tiny for me, really... yes.
Then i bought the Honor 8X Max and around same time the Honor Note 10 came to, i bought this to and sold the 8xm again [emoji1787]. I keep the N10 for around 3 month, i really loves it and thheennnnn i heard about my baby Mate 20X L29 (636), then i bought this and one of my daughters got the N10.
But this year no Mi Max 4 and around Honor 9X Max and Honor Note 11, they will not come before next year, because they release them every second year only, so maybe it will be Honor 10X Max and Honor Note 12 instead i think.
So im happy they will release a M30X and even with a larger display, thats i like a lot.
I still dream of a Mate X phone with 16:9 format 6,8 inch in 16:9 could give us a hell of a phone... I will keep on dreaming LOL.
BigDisplay said:
Ooohhhhhhhh yeeeaaaahhhhhh, me 2.
Will be awesome and think or really hope it comes with 5G to, but if it don't, they make a 4G and a 5G version ofc, so it will not really be a problem i guees
Last year i heard about m20x very late.
I had my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra since 2016 and heard about Mi Max 3 which i bought, but it had a fake rom and i sold it after 1 month.
Then i bought the Samsung Note 8, but sold it again after 1 week, it was all to tiny for me, really... yes.
Then i bought the Honor 8X Max and around same time the Honor Note 10 came to, i bought this to and sold the 8xm again [emoji1787]. I keep the N10 for around 3 month, i really loves it and thheennnnn i heard about my baby Mate 20X L29 (636), then i bought this and one of my daughters got the N10.
But this year no Mi Max 4 and around Honor 9X Max and Honor Note 11, they will not come before next year, because they release them every second year only, so maybe it will be Honor 10X Max and Honor Note 12 instead i think.
So im happy they will release a M30X and even with a larger display, thats i like a lot.
I still dream of a Mate X phone with 16:9 format 6,8 inch in 16:9 could give us a hell of a phone... I will keep on dreaming LOL.
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Yeah i was also on the big phone wagon. I started with Samsung Note 1 (was big in that time) and then bought many more big phones (don't know the time order anymore):
Samsung Note 1,2,3,4,5
Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Huawei Honor X2
Lenovo Phab
Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra
Huawei P8 Max
Honor Note 8 and 10
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Yeah i was also on the big phone wagon. I started with Samsung Note 1 (was big in that time) and then bought many more big phones (don't know the time order anymore):
Samsung Note 1,2,3,4,5
Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Huawei Honor X2
Lenovo Phab
Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra
Huawei P8 Max
Honor Note 8 and 10
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Lol nice, had Sammy note 4 and 5 to btw, if i remember rihgt they was 5,7 inch in my loving 16:9 format... Huge phones.
But this i like most was my zenfone 3 ultra, still have it , but never use it anylonger, but its still a beast today in my opinion.
Now the bad news if true
https://mobile.twitter.com/RODENT950/status/1166778114548146177
Don't jump to conclusions. YouTube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vPJYhtbAo looks more like list of wishes and speculations to me than firm confirmation of Mate 30X launch. On the other side China and the US are still in harsh trading negotiations. I think it's too early to say there will be no Google for Mate 30.
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Now the bad news if true
https://mobile.twitter.com/RODENT950/status/1166778114548146177
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I use Google my self, but to be honest... I would love to try Harmony OS and i will find my self some other stuff mail prg etc etc.
So for me this could be good, Android not that exciting anymore, only minor updates every time a new version comes. And iOS, been there done that.
Its NASTY as we say these days in Denmark [emoji1787][emoji23]
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Now the bad news if true
https://mobile.twitter.com/RODENT950/status/1166778114548146177
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https://www.gsmarena.com/us_commerc...m_us_companies_to_trade_huawei-news-38916.php
Looks like all will be normal again
BigDisplay said:
https://www.gsmarena.com/us_commerc...m_us_companies_to_trade_huawei-news-38916.php
Looks like all will be normal again
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Here they say it will have Android but without the Google apps.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...unch-under-cloud-of-android-ban-idUSKCN1VI240
Huawei will be doing fine with Harmony OS. Who needs google apps when you can have all the Chinese alternative apps. No youtube? Use Youku. No Google search? Use Baidu. No gmail? Use QQ mail.
Frankly, the Mate 20 X is the best of a bad bunch, hardware wise.
The *quality* of the hardware is outstanding. Screen quality, camera quality, performance, build quality etc etc.
However the form factor is crap. All these tall devices waste so much screen area. They're crap for browsing. Crap for productivity. Crap for videos and photos.
At 7.2", the screen has 1.5mm less width than my 6.6" Honor Note 8, and about 16mm more height.
Guess what's more useful in 99% of use cases, and easier to use without thumb gymnastics? The extra width, not the extra height.
For all intents and purposes, the screen feels marginally smaller than my HN8, and definitely more awkward to use.
If a 30 X does appear. I can't possibly imagine it being less than 19.5:9 (20 X is 18.5:9), because they want as big a gulf as possible between normal handsets and the Mate X (and its coming successors). They want you to pay through the nose for usable screen width, and the marketing guys love these nominally diagonally large screen measurements that narrow aspect ones have.
19.5:9 at probably 7.4-7.5" inches ... have fun with that.
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Frankly, the Mate 20 X is the best of a bad bunch, hardware wise.
The *quality* of the hardware is outstanding. Screen quality, camera quality, performance, build quality etc etc.
However the form factor is crap. All these tall devices waste so much screen area. They're crap for browsing. Crap for productivity. Crap for videos and photos.
At 7.2", the screen has 1.5mm less width than my 6.6" Honor Note 8, and about 16mm more height.
Guess what's more useful in 99% of use cases, and easier to use without thumb gymnastics? The extra width, not the extra height.
For all intents and purposes, the screen feels marginally smaller than my HN8, and definitely more awkward to use.
If a 30 X does appear. I can't possibly imagine it being less than 19.5:9 (20 X is 18.5:9), because they want as big a gulf as possible between normal handsets and the Mate X (and its coming successors). They want you to pay through the nose for usable screen width, and the marketing guys love these nominally diagonally large screen measurements that narrow aspect has.
19.5:9 at probably 7.4-7.5" inches ... have fun with that.
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I tried making a dummy for the phone to compare the size to my note 5 and I would definitely take 7.4 or 7.5 with more smart aspect like you mentioned, either way this kind of device is for big size phablets fanatics like us, we know what we want and can handle it.
I am a big fan of mate 20X, despite of the notch on the 30x as rumours shows, i'll be waiting for the boss.....
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I tried making a dummy for the phone to compare the size to my note 5 and I would definitely take 7.4 or 7.5 with more smart aspect like you mentioned, either way this kind of device is for big size phablets fanatics like us, we know what we want and can handle it.
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I'd happily take a 7.5-8" device in 16:9 16:10, as you'd actually be getting useful screen area. Even if it was very difficult to fully operate one handed.
Over 7" at 19.5:9 (or even worse) ... it's just pointless. You have huge areas of unused or poorly utilised screen area, and a really un-ergonomic device - unless you have a freakishly long thumb.
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I'd happily take a 7.5-8" device in 16:9 16:10, as you'd actually be getting useful screen area. Even if it was very difficult to fully operate one handed.
Over 7" at 19.5:9 (or even worse) ... it's just pointless. You have huge areas of unused or poorly utilised screen area, and a really un-ergonomic device - unless you have a freakishly long thumb.
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I am all in for a bug screen that's well used, I already don't care for one handed use bc I want big so I won't complain about sth I already know!
I totally get it about the aspect ratio.
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I am a big fan of mate 20X, despite of the notch on the 30x as rumours shows, i'll be waiting for the boss.....
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I didn't buy the mate 20 x to wait and see if there is a mate 30x.
I don't want too much changes but somethings could get better like higher resolution for more clarity, better video quality / cam etc, maybe a hole bunch camera on the top left side to minimize the distraction etc or even in the middle like the note, an even bigger battery if possible ( 5000 is still awesome) 8 gigs of ram to be standard across all versions with 256 gigs.
I hope they take the pen serious this time... I love love loved the Mate 20 X but I'm being forced to consider the Note 10 because of the lack of pen functionality. Doesn't work near screen edge, short battery, can't use while charging, can't use when dead, button is useless, tip is tacky and lacks feedback, no real software support, etc. I would love to go Huawei again if they put more thought into the pen.
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I hope they take the pen serious this time... I love love loved the Mate 20 X but I'm being forced to consider the Note 10 because of the lack of pen functionality. Doesn't work near screen edge, short battery, can't use while charging, can't use when dead, button is useless, tip is tacky and lacks feedback, no real software support, etc. I would love to go Huawei again if they put more thought into the pen.
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Totally agree with you on the pen, right now it does feel just like any other stylus etc
I am thinking about buying a Samsung as I can't get along with the oppo I bought
I use a phone for
Watching films
Photography (portraits and macro plus scenery and wildlife).
Day to day emails etc
I have read some stories about issues with the ultra and the photography lock issues but the 10 x zoom looks amsizng
Which would you go for based on your experience
Have they fixed the photo lock issue with software update
Can you be honest as I don't want to make mistake in my new phone
Can't decide whether to wait for the note 20 ultra
The prices I'll pay as I get blue light discount through Samsung are
S20 plus £849.14
S20 ultra £1019
The note 2p ultra will probably be full retail price as the discounts don't kick in for ages
Thanks in advance
Chris
mancuk29 said:
I am thinking about buying a Samsung as I can't get along with the oppo I bought
I use a phone for
Watching films
Photography (portraits and macro plus scenery and wildlife).
Day to day emails etc
I have read some stories about issues with the ultra and the photography lock issues but the 10 x zoom looks amsizng
Which would you go for based on your experience
Have they fixed the photo lock issue with software update
Can you be honest as I don't want to make mistake in my new phone
Can't decide whether to wait for the note 20 ultra
The prices I'll pay as I get blue light discount through Samsung are
S20 plus £849.14
S20 ultra £1019
The note 2p ultra will probably be full retail price as the discounts don't kick in for ages
Thanks in advance
Chris
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In UK is exynos 990... unless we have a surprise on 5th August, so I would skip Samsung in this 2020, you get over heating, throttling and camera issues, plus the usual bad battery management.
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theholyguy said:
In UK is exynos 990... unless we have a surprise on 5th August, so I would skip Samsung in this 2020, you get over heating, throttling and camera issues, plus the usual bad battery management.
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What are the camera issues
I don't tend to be a big gamer and just use my phone normally
Camera is really important to me however
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What are the camera issues
I don't tend to be a big gamer and just use my phone normally
Camera is really important to me however
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The macro still not working perfect, and the focus also, maybe in Note20 comes perfect with new macro lens and laser focus. Anyway... battery drain and heating issue even seeing movies too long time you can count on that with exynos 990.
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The macro still not working perfect, and the focus also, maybe in Note20 comes perfect with new macro lens and laser focus. Anyway... battery drain and heating issue even seeing movies too long time you can count on that with exynos 990.
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Not in my experience. I get fantastic battery , easily 7 or 8 hours SOT with my exynos. I have no issues with the camera either. I'm no photographer but it does more than I need it to.
No heating issues either only while charging :good:
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Not in my experience. I get fantastic battery , easily 7 or 8 hours SOT with my exynos. I have no issues with the camera either. I'm no photographer but it does more than I need it to.
No heating issues either only while charging :good:
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On ultra exynos? With 120hz screen? One call and 30min play per day maybe? 8 hours sot and recharge every 12 hours maybe [emoji1787]
It get better with updates but some are hardware issues... only changing the SoC configuration witch Samsung recognize and will do next year.
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mancuk29 said:
I am thinking about buying a Samsung as I can't get along with the oppo I bought
I use a phone for
Watching films
Photography (portraits and macro plus scenery and wildlife).
Day to day emails etc
I have read some stories about issues with the ultra and the photography lock issues but the 10 x zoom looks amsizng
Which would you go for based on your experience
Have they fixed the photo lock issue with software update
Can you be honest as I don't want to make mistake in my new phone
Can't decide whether to wait for the note 20 ultra
The prices I'll pay as I get blue light discount through Samsung are
S20 plus £849.14
S20 ultra £1019
The note 2p ultra will probably be full retail price as the discounts don't kick in for ages
Thanks in advance
Chris
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Rumor has it the Note 20 Ultra release will be delayed and have a 50X Zoom, not the 100X found in the S20 Ultra. Likely it will feature an Optical Zoom up to 10X then a Digital Zoom at higher magnification levels. Having spent time as a professional photographer I doubt most users would be able to identify whether a photo was taken by an S20 or a Note device, both have all around good cameras. Will there be minor improvements in the Note 20? Probably but we'll also see software updates which will improve the S20 cameras. I wouldn't consider the Note 20 and S20 Ultra`s pocket phones, they're both very large devices with big displays. Prices are a significant consideration as well. The S20 Plus is available for $800 USD, S20 Ultra is around $1,000 USD. Rumor has it the Note 20 Ultra will come in around $1,300 USD. Also you'll save money and get a better SoC if you buy a Snapdragon powered International Variant. Lastly, would you use the S-Pen? If not it's difficult to justify holding out for the Note 20 Ultra. Wait for Samsung's Unpacking Event in a couple of days and you'll have a clearer picture for which device suits you best.
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Rumor has it the Note 20 Ultra release will be delayed and have a 50X Zoom, not the 100X found in the S20 Ultra. Likely it will feature an Optical Zoom up to 10X then a Digital Zoom at higher magnification levels. Having spent time as a professional photographer I doubt most users wouldn't be able to identify whether a photo was taken by an S20 or a Note device, both have all around good cameras. Will there be minor improvements in the Note 20? Probably but we'll also see software updates which will improve the S20 cameras. I wouldn't consider the Note 20 and S20 Ultra`s pocket phones, they're both very large devices with big displays. Prices are a significant consideration as well. The S20 Plus is available for $800 USD, S20 Ultra is around $1,000 USD. Rumor has it the Note 20 Ultra will come in around $1,300 USD. Also you'll save money and get a better SoC if you buy a Snapdragon powered International Variant. Lastly, would you use the S-Pen? If not it's difficult to justify holding out for the Note 20 Ultra. Wait for Samsung's Unpacking Event in a couple of days and you'll have a clearer picture for which device suits you best.
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Brilliant thank you.. My main use is photography plus of course day to day stuff so a good camera is important as I had to sell my dslr to fund my divorce ?.. I am no David Bailey but I love macro photography and this is where the utra struggles I just hope Sammy can fix it...
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Brilliant thank you.. My main use is photography plus of course day to day stuff so a good camera is important as I had to sell my dslr to fund my divorce .. I am no David Bailey but I love macro photography and this is where the utra struggles I just hope Sammy can fix it...
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You're most welcome. For Macro shots with the S20 you'll find this article useful.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sa...laxy-s20-ultra-camera-close-up-zoom-mode/amp/
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You're most welcome. For Macro shots with the S20 you'll find this article useful.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sa...laxy-s20-ultra-camera-close-up-zoom-mode/amp/
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That's brilliant thanks I am on oppo find x 2 pro but am returning it to amazon tomorrow I've found certain annoyances the only good point really is 120mhz refresh even on qhd plus.. And charges zero to 100% in 38 mins... But annoyances like not being set ring tones for contacts without a faf... And the software isn't as refinded as Samsung
for me my opinion , i switch from n10+ to s20 ultra specially after all leaks come about n20 ultra .
why ?
for the true , i wasent use spen on my n10+ , and when i knew that n20 ultra come with battery 4500 according to s20 ultra is 5000.
another reason : refresh rate 120 with fhd for n20 ultra not qhd ...so same refresh rate on my s20 ultra .
i got my s20 ultra for 1000$ and its less than 300$ for upcoming n20 ultra .
another reason and that the special reason and important one : n20 ultra will come with exynos 990 same s20 ultra , so in my region and country no way for snapdragon .
so i will after all say , i keep on my s20 ultra that less than 1 month already in my hand.
hope i help
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* S20 Ultra Exynos *
After update G988BXXU3ATG4.
heat issue is gone , its still warm 37 C after a photoshoot , but it was 44 C 47 C !!, thats not a point anymore.
normal tempature 24 C , speedcharge battery 44 minutes 34 C .
Macro is very good , not to close to object and zoom in ,its the same methode that samsung did to get a "macromode" , result is good .
Im a heavy user and i get around 7 till 8 hour battery time 90 % 20%.
only some lagg when i take photo's 108MP slow reaction ,
so price good buy it .
discussion Exynos Snapdragon ?.
I'm still debating between the s20 ultra ,iphone 11 Pro max,xperia 1 mk2
Its all the exynos and camera problems that are worrying me are they all fixed in updates like some are saying? Because I do prefer Samsung devices
Thanks
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* S20 Ultra Exynos *
After update G988BXXU3ATG4.
heat issue is gone , its still warm 37 C after a photoshoot , but it was 44 C 47 C !!, thats not a point anymore.
normal tempature 24 C , speedcharge battery 44 minutes 34 C .
Macro is very good , not to close to object and zoom in ,its the same methode that samsung did to get a "macromode" , result is good .
Im a heavy user and i get around 7 till 8 hour battery time 90 % 20%.
only some lagg when i take photo's 108MP slow reaction ,
so price good buy it .
discussion Exynos Snapdragon ?.
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Brilliant thanks I have ordered and its arriving tomorrow can't wait
gabe_kamphuis said:
* S20 Ultra Exynos *
After update G988BXXU3ATG4.
heat issue is gone , its still warm 37 C after a photoshoot , but it was 44 C 47 C !!, thats not a point anymore.
normal tempature 24 C , speedcharge battery 44 minutes 34 C .
Macro is very good , not to close to object and zoom in ,its the same methode that samsung did to get a "macromode" , result is good .
Im a heavy user and i get around 7 till 8 hour battery time 90 % 20%.
only some lagg when i take photo's 108MP slow reaction ,
so price good buy it .
discussion Exynos Snapdragon ?.
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brockyneo said:
I'm still debating between the s20 ultra ,iphone 11 Pro max,xperia 1 mk2
Its all the exynos and camera problems that are worrying me are they all fixed in updates like some are saying? Because I do prefer Samsung devices
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I have a iPhone 11 Pro max and the camera is OK I'm just sick of being stuck in the apple eco system and want a breath of fresh air
Re the Sony do some research that camera sounds as bad.. And it's not got 120mhz screen OK the ultra is only on full HD but 120mhz is amazing from what I've seen
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I have a iPhone 11 Pro max and the camera is OK I'm just sick of being stuck in the apple eco system and want a breath of fresh air
Re the Sony do some research that camera sounds as bad.. And it's not got 120mhz screen OK the ultra is only on full HD but 120mhz is amazing from what I've seen
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I actually have the s20 ultra now and have the iPhone 11 Pro max on order so was going to decide between the two
I have the exyonos version and I don't do a lot of gaming if any to be honest (might have 10 mins on coin master haha ?)
Using the camera the phone does heat up a bit on the top front display just worries me if I keep it long term things will only get worst with exyonos and the heat
I'd hate to think in the future oh ill have a go on that game or app and the phones does nothing but throttle
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I actually have the s20 ultra now and have the iPhone 11 Pro max on order so was going to decide between the two
I have the exyonos version and I don't do a lot of gaming if any to be honest (might have 10 mins on coin master haha [emoji38])
Using the camera the phone does heat up a bit on the top front display just worries me if I keep it long term things will only get worst with exyonos and the heat
I'd hate to think in the future oh ill have a go on that game or app and the phones does nothing but throttle
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Exynos for me is a deal breaker... we never know what's happening next[emoji1787] but the worst for me is the attitude of Samsung scamming exynos consumers, selling same price, and what a high price, something that don't perform on the same level than snapdragon.
Even if the average customer don't see it I think is not fair.
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theholyguy said:
Exynos for me is a deal breaker... we never know what's happening next[emoji1787] but the worst for me is the attitude of Samsung scamming exynos consumers, selling same price, and what a high price, something that don't perform on the same level than snapdragon.
Even if the average customer don't see it I think is not fair.
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Is the exyonos that bad I mean I've had samsung devices for the past 5 years all exyonos I'm assuming with me been in the uk
Or is it just this generation 990 version
Seen a lot of posts that all the overheating and ceramic problems have been fixed via software is this true?
I mean if its a split second behind snapdragon then who cares lol
Thanks
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Is the exyonos that bad I mean I've had samsung devices for the past 5 years all exyonos I'm assuming with me been in the uk
Or is it just this generation 990 version
Seen a lot of posts that all the overheating and ceramic problems have been fixed via software is this true?
I mean if its a split second behind snapdragon then who cares lol
Thanks
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It's at least since s7... for hardcore users is important. You play PUBG poorly after one hour or so... paying the same than an American that still playing good [emoji2361] the lucky of Samsung is that the average customer don't care... but with 20% less battery in s20 series even the average customer starts complaining.
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It's at least since s7... for hardcore users is important. You play PUBG poorly after one hour or so... paying the same than an American that still playing good [emoji2361] the lucky of Samsung is that the average customer don't care... but with 20% less battery in s20 series even the average customer starts complaining.
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To be honest I'm not much of a gamer on phones I just use it for the camera,social media,watching YouTube and movies,just some general apps like music etc
So would I be effected by the exyonos or should I not even notice
I don't think I'll ever play a game for over an hour I mean does the exyonos throttle after say 30 mins
Also mine is on ATFG HERE IN THE UK is that the lastest version with the apparent fixes?
I was told that the 20x no longer works with any cellphone carriers in the US but I purchased a EVR-L29 model anyways and having them shipped over here in the states because I really like the phone for media consumption. I am just wondering if there is any current owners here in the US that can confirm or deny this fact.
I'm still using mine here in South Carolina with AT&T. No problems at all.
Still using mine with T-mobile
As long as your local carrier supports the LTE frequencies the EVR-L29 transmits and receives on then you are fine. The ban on Google and Android software on new Huawei hardware doesn't effect the functionality of phones manufactured before the ban. We have still have an EVR-L29 in our household in Canada and it still gets regular OTA updates and connected fine to local US carriers while we were in Boston and New York last week. I sold our my own EVR-L29 last year and have been using a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra to get the faster 5g speeds, but the Mate 20 x is still my favorite phone and when ever I get a chance to take my wife's on the road with me.
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I sold our my own EVR-L29 last year and have been using a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra to get the faster 5g speeds, but the Mate 20 x is still my favorite phone and when ever I get a chance to take my wife's on the road with me.
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I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.
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I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.
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The screen size and aspect ratio of the Mate 20 x have the Note Ultra 20 beat hands down. Whether it is reading a Kindle novel to pass time on a flight or reading articles on the internet, the Mate 20 x is just the right size for the job. Although on paper the dimensions of the Note 20 Ultra are not that much smaller, I find myself squinting a bit at the screen and often have to pinch to zoom. One advantage the Note 20 Ultra has that you wouldn't notice if you didn't switch back and forth between the models is the refresh rate. The adaptive 60 / 90 / 120 refresh rate on the Samsung product makes touch gestures buttery smooth - but I still prefer the increased screen real estate of the Huawei.
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The screen size and aspect ratio of the Mate 20 x have the Note Ultra 20 beat hands down. Whether it is reading a Kindle novel to pass time on a flight or reading articles on the internet, the Mate 20 x is just the right size for the job. Although on paper the dimensions of the Note 20 Ultra are not that much smaller, I find myself squinting a bit at the screen and often have to pinch to zoom. One advantage the Note 20 Ultra has that you wouldn't notice if you didn't switch back and forth between the models is the refresh rate. The adaptive 60 / 90 / 120 refresh rate on the Samsung product makes touch gestures buttery smooth - but I still prefer the increased screen real estate of the Huawei.
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What do you think about the Honor x30 max since its the same size and aspect ratio as the 20x?
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What do you think about the Honor x30 max since its the same size and aspect ratio as the 20x?
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The Honor has larger bezels and a taller aspect ratio resulting in less screen than the Huawei. I haven't seen a review of its camera set up, but the Huawei is still brilliant and for sound also has aptX HD. Huawei has been good about OTA updates for the Mate 20 x, continuing to treat it as a flagship phone. Makes life easier than side-loading Google apps on the Honor.
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Still using mine with T-mobile
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This is not the 5G version correct? Also, what kinda of download and upload speeds do you get with Tmobile?
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The Honor has larger bezels and a taller aspect ratio resulting in less screen than the Huawei.
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Btw how's the battery on your note 20 ultra compared to the 20x?
My Mate 20 x gives me about six hour more use on a charge than the Note 20 Ultra, but I can fully charge the Note 20 Ultra in about forty minutes.
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My Mate 20 x gives me about six hour more use on a charge than the Note 20 Ultra, but I can fully charge the Note 20 Ultra in about forty minutes.
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That's strange. Most users report that the n20u gives more battery usage than the 20x. And 6 hours more with only 500 mah difference? That doesnt sound right.
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This is not the 5G version correct? Also, what kinda of download and upload speeds do you get with Tmobile?
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Correct, no 5g. My up and down speeds r fine. T-mobile service here in SW Virginia has improved a lot over the last year including rural areas.
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I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.
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I got rid of an S20+ because I didn't like the form factor. It's just taller than much lighter phones that have the same width. Pointless to get a tiny width phone like Note 20/21/22 Ultra phone - they are all the some width just some are taller and heavier. There is no use of the extra vertical space. Only reason for S22 ultra is for 1TB, but it's sold out anyway, and you can't root it for US version, and it's $1400 which is ridiculous, and you can't get the international yet, and still it's just a massive phone but not any wider than much lighter phones, defeating the purpose of making it heavier, they just make it taller and taller, soon we will have one that looks like a yard stick, thin and way too tall. They won't learn.
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That's strange. Most users report that the n20u gives more battery usage than the 20x. And 6 hours more with only 500 mah difference? That doesnt sound right.
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It's not strange. The resolution is much lower and so is the refresh rate. half the refresh and half the resolution makes it a 4x smaller screen to power, despite being a larger screen, so this gives the screen up to 4x battery life in that general example.
Hey, so I don't mean to hijack the thread, but ATT turned off their 3G network earlier this week and I can no longer make or receive calls on my EVR-L29. Just wondering if anyone had found a workaround to this issue. Are there any other Huawei phones of a similar size that will work with VoLTE? I also thought of another possible workaround by porting my ATT number to a Google voice account thereby forcing my phone to operate as a VoLTE device. I looked into it and it will cost a one time fee of twenty dollars a month to port over the number. I'm just not sure if it's going to work the way I want it to. Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in once again, sorry to hijack the thread but I really don't know where else I can go to try and get some input regarding this issue.... And I really don't want to part with my beloved Mate 20X.
I have Verizon on my V30S, and I've tried a few different devices since then but stuck going back to V30S. It's still a great phone, I was just wanting a larger OLED display for reading. The Mate 20 X has it. It's the widest phone on the market.
I tried the S20+ (last Galaxy phone that has expandable storage), but I did not like it and returned it. Actually they sent me the 5G US model when I ordered the 4G international model on purpose, but since I had to return it anyway, I do not want another S20+, it's the same width as my V30, just taller and heavier, defeating the purpose.
I want text bigger on the screen which is why I want a wider phone, and there is no modern tablet that exists in that form factor with OLED, and the A7 Lite doesn't have OLED but the form factor is ok. I wish it were smaller. Debating keeping it.
But to keep this Mate 20 X I need to root it. A device that is not rootable has no use to me. There are too many essential things that I need root for.
As for using it on a US network, I got this phone mainly as a tablet, and I have an MVNO GSM sim that I haven't tried in this phone yet. I usually use wifi anyway, but I would need to have data to be practical to have this as a daily driver.
However, if 5G becomes a permanent thing, then because 5G gives me severe headaches, I will simply never be able to use data again, I will only use WIFI at home, and the only other essential thing I use data for is Google Maps, but I can get an offline maps app that will just just fine and when I'm in a store I can connect to their WIFI if I want to google something. And if that becomes a problem, I will change my way of life and not contact anyone when away from home, I'll keep a burner phone in my car if I have to for emergency use. That said, soon I will have to move out into the country in the middle of nowhere because all the cities have already rolled out 5G anyway.
For me, the purpose of a phone is as a media device, reading, and wifi use. I don't need cellular 99% of the time. Guess what, people used to use landlines and didn't have cell phones, and the world survived. I don't mind going back to a landline if I need that as a phone service. Smartphones I will use as computers, not cellular. My laptop does not have a cellular connection and doesn't need one. My smartphone doesn't either. It's a very minor convenience.
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It's not strange. The resolution is much lower and so is the refresh rate. half the refresh and half the resolution makes it a 4x smaller screen to power, despite being a larger screen, so this gives the screen up to 4x battery life in that general example.
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It is strange. The n20u has far better batt efficiency that the 20x since the n20u's software is specificaly tuned for best batt performance unlike the 20x whose software isnt geared towards such a standard. The n20u outshines the 20x in battery life. Your assessment of deriving 4x more batt life by a mere 500mah difference is very poor.
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But to keep this Mate 20 X I need to root it. A device that is not rootable has no use to me. There are too many essential things that I need root for.
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The problem with rooting it is you have to downgrade which is a pain in the ass in and of itself to say the least. Then the issue in going back to 9 is lack of universal dark mode for some apps - although most apps have that anyway. Plus, the o/s looks like outdated kit kat from ages ago and is much slower than 11.
What benefits were you expecting to derive from rooting it?
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The problem with rooting it is you have to downgrade which is a pain in the ass in and of itself to say the least. Then the issue in going back to 9 is lack of universal dark mode for some apps - although most apps have that anyway. Plus, the o/s looks like outdated kit kat from ages ago and is much slower than 11.
What benefits were you expecting to derive from rooting it?
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Ok, awesome. How do I downgrade? I've been trying to figure it out. My other phone is on 8.0, Android 9 is still an upgrade from that. This phone is 1,000,000 times more useful on an older OS than on a new OS I can't root.
I've written the benefits before, they are too numerous to list in a quick post, I could write for an hour about all the reasons. Almost all of them are essential to my use.
Can you help me get this downgraded?