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any previous mate 9 users here? upgrading advice

currently own the mate 9 for about 2 years . best phone i have had. fulfills all my demands. Only problem im still Android 7 with EMUI 5. other than that, this phone is amazing.
My wife needs a new phone since she currently is with the Redmi note 5. I thought about giving her my mate 9 which will be a major upgrade for her needs and getting myself a new one. After searching and reading for a while now, i have come up with 3 options that are similar to the mate 9 in terms of what I would like to have in a phone: mate 20 and mate 20x and honor view 20
I would have loved to have the 20x, but its way too expensive ATM (about $900 in my country) so it will stay as a dream. So this leaves me with the mate 20 and honor view 20 . Mate pro is not an option also, as its too expensive and i dont like the wide notch and prefer not to have a curved and tall screen but a wide one just like the mate 9.
About my usage... Im a light-medium user. I dont play much. Mostly watching Netflix and lots of browsing and sometimes listening to music, a little bit of FB and also whatsapp.
Camera wise, only taking pictures of family. not really going on a trip and using my phone to take pics of the view. I have a Canon camera for that, so I would like to have a good camera ofcourse but i dont need it to be superb and the best in the market.
Mate 20 will cost me about $670 for the 4/128 in my country or $724 for the 6/128 if I order from Ebay.
View 20 will cost $760 for the 8/256
Here are the questions:
About the Mate...I have heard mixed reviews about the screen quality and especially the speakers not being really quality ones or at least having the stereo effect. All in all, is it worth its price? Would like to hear unbiased opinions and especially in comparison to the mate 9 (screen and speakers).
Would the 4 RAM be enough?
Also, would the view 20 be a better buy although a little more expensive ?

I got Mate 9, Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro.
1. EMUI is still disgusting but it works.
2. Speaker are a huge downgrade, compare to Mate 9 and Mate 10 but is still better than phone like OnePlus 6T
3. The screen is 10/10. Its bright and sharp. It's not Like on Mate 10 but its still very good.
4. The battery life is the best one I ever got. I get easy 8h SOT with 2 full days, both sim on LTE. Its like Redmi Note with 4000 mAh but with power. Mate 9 and Mate 20 are behind and this already got good battery life
5. Fingerprint is almost the same (10/10)
6. Charging is the same
7. Speed of the phone is sick. Almost no waiting for nothing
8. Camera is better but Videos are still trash
Bad is not good, some midrange Xiaomi's get better support.
EMUI eats a lot of memory (600-700MB RAM free) at 4GB version.
The Honor brand will get even badder support in firmware, no dual speaker and this hole... I don't know
I will never buy again Huawei phones. The UI kills me, bootloader is closed and firmware support is bad. Hardware is almost 10 of 10.

I know Xiaomi has better support but there is no Xiaomi phone now that interests me

The problem is you pay for premium but you get firmware updates like 200$ Xiaomi line. Xiaomi is just a example.
From 6GB to 4GB, from 1440p to 1080p and from very good speaker to good speaker + you pay more but still get bad support.
I bought my Mate 20 10.12.2018, get 2 updates, security patch level still 01/2019 and we enter 03/2019.
I pay for Mate 10 545€ on first week and for the Mate 10 Pro 499€ 60 days after release. This time I pay over 600€ 60 days after release and still **** firmware with bad support.

Was there supposed to be another security patch in February?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Huawei-Mat...rentrq:3a86484a1690aa484547e5c8fffbfd2b|iid:1
The 6GB version for $724( 637€ ) including shipping and taxes in my country. Its not cheap, just wanna make sure its worth it.
none of the stores here in my country sell the 6gb model, only the 4gb. and its a premium phone with a premium price of $660. paying $660 for 4GB... Although the 6GB variant isnt that common from what i noticed
Funny thing, with that price I buy 2 redmi note 7

U will lose a lot with 6GB. No VoLTE, no Huawei Cloud...

klanac8901 said:
U will lose a lot with 6GB. No VoLTE, no Huawei Cloud...
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what do you mean lose a lot with 6GB?

mazinya said:
what do you mean lose a lot with 6GB?
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You will get 2GB RAM more but a lot of things will not work like VoLTE. A friend bought it, I think Indonesia versiin, with 6GB RAM, no VoLTE, no Wifi-Calling, Huawei Cloud sad "not supported"... So he sell it and buy 4GB version of Mate 20 and anything works

ok thank you. so its better to get the 4GB. Do you feel the 4gn is enough?
Is the mate 20 worth the premium price?

In my country, mate 20 6/128 costs around 520usd, so it's a very reasonable price for me. That's why I chose mate 20 and it's so far so good till now, no thing to complaint, no competitors in this price range.

4GB is ok but I have only 700MB left, with my Xiaomi I got 2.2 GB left.

Go for the 6/128 Mate 20, you wont regret it.
The guy saying the 6/128 does not support VoLTE or Wi-Fi Calling is simply bs. Mine has both working on many networks, i travel a lot, and tested my device to the max, EVERYTHING works flawlessly. If something does not work then it means either the network does not support it, or the user is... ya know lol.
And before anyone goes bananas at me, i will provide any screenshots that proves what i said above.
Get the 6/128, stay away from the 4/128, the difference in RAM and cash will make the difference noticeable, trust me on that!
Cheers!

Inpain said:
The guy saying the 6/128 does not support VoLTE or Wi-Fi Calling is simply bs.
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U can ask your provider over Twitter. O2 Germany sad "no VoLTE and no VoWIFI for international Mate 20, just for the West-EU version".

I had mate 9 great dvice
I sold it.. to get Honor Note 10
but sold it due to lack of google support ...
bought dis mate 20 ...

Mate 20x or Mate 20

After searching and reading, it comes down to either the 20x or the regular 20. I also thought about the View 20 but that is off the shelf now. I read and watched everything on youtube about them both so i know what to expect mostly. But i do have some important questions.. Ill start by saying currently own the Mate 9. Since the mate 9, for some reason, i am always drawn to Huawei mate phones
First thing I would like to know about the 20x is how is the speakerphone loudness when talking to someone else. Is it strong enough? Can you hear the other person clearly and loudly? I know that listening to music and speaking on the speakerphone not necessarily have the same quality and volume.
Everyday use... is it a hassle to carry on you? Is it a hassle to use with one hand?
Last thing and most important i wanna know is bang for the buck, value for money.
Only thing that deters me from the 20X is the price. It will cost me about $970 doesnt matter if i buy it online or in my country (import tax, etc bring it to that price even if i buy online for $750) . I have NEVER thought i would spend that much on a damn phone, and even thinking about it now sounds ridiculous. In my whole life time, the most I spent on a phone was $650, but that phone is the only one which really gives me the strong itch to spend on it, and IF i do, there is just NO WAY i am going to upgrade again in 2-3 years. So this HAS to be something that will keep on running smoothly stay relevant for at least 3 years, just like the Mate 9 i have now.
I dont game at all, but I do like to browse a lot and watch Netflix so the big screen and the insane speakers sounds great. Can I afford the phone? yes I can. But if i do, i need to know that its totally worth the price.
The other option is the Mate 20 (pro is a no go) which sounds good too (4GB/128) , but obviously not as good as the 20x and will cost me $660.. thats a $300 price difference. So I really need your UNBIASED advice.
I am also worried about updates.. until these days i have never received Oreo on my Mate 9

For me the choice is obvious. The Mate 20 X has a bigger screen, AMOLED display, larger battery, better camera.
Side note, Android 9 is due to be released for the Mate 9 (C432) in the upcoming weeks. You might want to check Firmware Finder if you're still stuck on Nougat.
I've upgraded from a Mate 9 to the 20 X only for the larger screen. I was quite happy with it otherwise.

mazinya said:
After searching and reading, it comes down to either the 20x or the regular 20. I also thought about the View 20 but that is off the shelf now. I read and watched everything on youtube about them both so i know what to expect mostly. But i do have some important questions.. Ill start by saying currently own the Mate 9. Since the mate 9, for some reason, i am always drawn to Huawei mate phones
First thing I would like to know about the 20x is how is the speakerphone loudness when talking to someone else. Is it strong enough? Can you hear the other person clearly and loudly? I know that listening to music and speaking on the speakerphone not necessarily have the same quality and volume.
Everyday use... is it a hassle to carry on you? Is it a hassle to use with one hand?
Last thing and most important i wanna know is bang for the buck, value for money.
Only thing that deters me from the 20X is the price. It will cost me about $970 doesnt matter if i buy it online or in my country (import tax, etc bring it to that price even if i buy online for $750) . I have NEVER thought i would spend that much on a damn phone, and even thinking about it now sounds ridiculous. In my whole life time, the most I spent on a phone was $650, but that phone is the only one which really gives me the strong itch to spend on it, and IF i do, there is just NO WAY i am going to upgrade again in 2-3 years. So this HAS to be something that will keep on running smoothly stay relevant for at least 3 years, just like the Mate 9 i have now.
I dont game at all, but I do like to browse a lot and watch Netflix so the big screen and the insane speakers sounds great. Can I afford the phone? yes I can. But if i do, i need to know that its totally worth the price.
The other option is the Mate 20 (pro is a no go) which sounds good too (4GB/128) , but obviously not as good as the 20x and will cost me $660.. thats a $300 price difference. So I really need your UNBIASED advice.
I am also worried about updates.. until these days i have never received Oreo on my Mate 9
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That $300 you'd be saving over the course of two years is only $12 a month. If you had a Mate 20 X and a Mate 20 in front of you and you only owned the Mate 20 you'd probably kick yourself for not spending the extra few hundred and getting the Mate 20 X. If you plan on keeping the phone for a while then don't go cheap and just spend the extra money. Everything is loud on the 20 X. You won't be disappointed. I said the same thing, that I'd never spend this much money on a phone again until I heard about the 20 X. I'm glad I spent the money because the phone is awesome.

Governa said:
For me the choice is obvious. The Mate 20 X has a bigger screen, AMOLED display, larger battery, better camera.
Side note, Android 9 is due to be released for the Mate 9 (C432) in the upcoming weeks. You might want to check Firmware Finder if you're still stuck on Nougat.
I've upgraded from a Mate 9 to the 20 X only for the larger screen. I was quite happy with it otherwise.
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Firmware Finder wont help. i tried everything. my phone wont get updates.
Big screen is also what i want.. although 6.5" with flat screen isnt that small either. Just hard to decide if phone is worth almost $1k

I have 2 units MATE 20 X, just like the guys above me said, the most i have ever spent on a phone was 475 EUR back in time when Nokia 93i was Released. Since then i have owned Galaxy Note 3 Clone, LeTV Le Max X900 ( which i buiild it myself with all the parts ) and Xiaomi Mi Mix. When Mate 20 X was released, i knew it since the first second this phone is for me... all i wanted was a bigger screen , as you may notice my Screen Experience has increased with every phone i have owned : Nokia N93i, Note 3 Clone, LeTv LeMax, Xiaomi Mi Mix 6.4inch.
Mate 20 X has almost everything you could possibly want from a Smartphone and still is cheaper than it's competitors : Big AMOLED Screen, Dual Stereo Speakers, Leica Triple Camera, 5000MAh battery. These are the reason i choose Mate 20 X. I' a little bit of a maniac, so i bought another one as a backup unit...
Get the Mate 20X, it is worth spending the money on this amazing smartphone.

Since the price drop I think the mate 20 PRO is actually cheaper then the mate 20x. It dropped by $450!
5G version of mate 20 x has been announced, but I'm hoping price and release date pops up soon. There are not many details yet. Then maybe the 20x will drop in price.
I really want the mate 20x but I don't know if I want to wait a bit to see if the price will drop or wait for the 5G version so that it is more future proof. I'm the same when I buy this phone it will quite a while before I get something else.

ThaDraGun said:
Since the price drop I think the mate 20 PRO is actually cheaper then the mate 20x. It dropped by $450!
5G version of mate 20 x has been announced, but I'm hoping price and release date pops up soon. There are not many details yet. Then maybe the 20x will drop in price.
I really want the mate 20x but I don't know if I want to wait a bit to see if the price will drop or wait for the 5G version so that it is more future proof. I'm the same when I buy this phone it will quite a while before I get something else.
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The price of Mate X is 2299$ and it will be released mid year... Price will not drop so fast ... The market for that phone is a totally different one... What it scares me about Mate X is 5G and only 4500MAh Battery with all that screen on it... Thanks, but i'll stick with Mate 20 X

filip_pine said:
The price of Mate X is 2299$ and it will be released mid year... Price will not drop so fast ... The market for that phone is a totally different one... What it scares me about Mate X is 5G and only 4500MAh Battery with all that screen on it... Thanks, but i'll stick with Mate 20 X
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No you missread
There is a 5G version of the Mate 20X being released.
I'm not talking about the folding mate x phone.

Would you recommend getting it from ebay? never MSRP is selling it, but im worried buying an almost 1k phone from ebay. The other option i have is Clove UK, but they are $95 more expensive than MSRP but i assume more reliable

Mate 20 Pro price has been reduced so it's on par with the 20 X. If I didn't want a large screen size I'd go with the 20 Pro. No reason to consider the 20

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Mate 20 Pro price has been reduced so it's on par with the 20 X. If I didn't want a large screen size I'd go with the 20 Pro. No reason to consider the 20
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20 pro is a no go for me. Dont like the wide notch and dont like the long and narrow screen.

mazinya said:
20 pro is a no go for me. Dont like the wide notch and dont like the long and narrow screen.
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Pro is ugly too but that's my opinion of course. It's a no go for me and it also misses the 3.5mm audio jack.

I have never even considered the pro. it was never an option.

Same for me. Have you made your decision wether to go for the Mate 20 or 20X?
It sucks Huawei doesn't deliver it globally :/

Go for 20x. Its pricing is very competitive even now. There is no sense of Waiting. I mean, how much it has to drop so this woul be enough for you?

mazinya said:
Would you recommend getting it from ebay? never MSRP is selling it, but im worried buying an almost 1k phone from ebay. The other option i have is Clove UK, but they are $95 more expensive than MSRP but i assume more reliable
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I buy my phones from them including pre ordering the 20 X. (never-msrp) They are a very reliable seller and I've never had an issue.

ajsmsg78 said:
I buy my phones from them including pre ordering the 20 X. (never-msrp) They are a very reliable seller and I've never had an issue.
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I understood that he is importing it from Singapore (not sure about that), and Clove is selling UK stock.. could this have effect on updates? I certainly wouldnt want that what happened with my Mate 9 would happen again with a $1000 phone

"Everyday use... is it a hassle to carry on you? Is it a hassle to use with one hand?"
It's not a hassle at all to carry. It fits in pockets, etc. It is rather tall, but if you're interested in this phone at all, you know all about the size of it. It's a heavy phone. I don't mind the weight, though. I like a phone with a bit of heft. I have larger than average hands, but I still can't completely use it one-handed. I have no problem texting and other day to day uses using one hand, but I find that it's just easier to do certain things on it using two hands or one hand plus the pen accessory. If your hands aren't larger than most, you'll be using two hands more than you're used to using. It's no big deal though, and you get used to it quickly.
"Last thing and most important i wanna know is bang for the buck, value for money."
I bought the phone the day it was available internationally, so I paid close to a thousand dollars, and I still think the cost was justifiable. It has a killer screen, killer camera, pen input, an extremely reliable, rear-mounted fingerprint sensor, loud speakers, and lightning fast processor. Huawei has been updating this phone monthly so far. I've always been worried about Huawei's lack of support soon after a phone is released. They've been on top of this phone, however. I'm really satisfied with their support so far. I would imagine, however, that if you keep this phone for 3 or more years, your update and support expectations shouldn't be too high. I'm just guessing here, but I think the really good support Huawei is giving to the new Mate line of phones will slack off by October or so, once the new line comes out. In three years, I would imagine very little support.
"I dont game at all, but I do like to browse a lot and watch Netflix so the big screen and the insane speakers sounds great. Can I afford the phone? yes I can. But if i do, i need to know that its totally worth the price."
I don't do much gaming either. Whatever else you do on this phone will be made better by the screen. It's that good, and it's really big. YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, web browsing....all that is excellent on this phone. Just remember, it's a heavy phone. So, long video or browsing sessions might take some effort if you're holding the phone the entire time.
If you can afford the X, I say go for it. Get the international version and get it working right out of the box. You won't be disappointed.

Gonna buy the phone today. I decided to get it from Clove UK since they give 2 years warranty unlike eBay. I hope i wont need it, but if i put down 1K on a phone, i would like to have some warranty. I heard that UK are about the last to get updates though

I've the 20X. Was going to get the pro but, don't like curved screens, don't want in screen scanner, don't use wireless charging... Don't like the dimensions. Mate 20 X is an epic phone however!
I had the Mate 9, first saw it on holiday whilst I'm Thailand then imported one and charged the region loved loved loved it. Then bricked it and binned it. Very sad day...
Had S9+ then Note 9 (got sent back) then Honor View 10 that ended up in the toilet... So I researched and was instantly drawn to the X.
Got it, thought I'd made a mistake on day one, was too big I thought... Day two, hell, I wouldn't consider anything else.
Speakers are fantastic, dolby atmos stereo, battery life stellar, sometimes I get 9 hours SOT, play PUBG, hdr video, goes on and on. Love this phone as much as I loved my mate 9.
You'll love it too. Guaranteed! Let us know how you get on!

Mate 30 X seems gonna happen with a samsung flat display!!!!

check this out guys, there might actually be a mate 30 x )))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vPJYhtbAo

MONSTERELLEVEN said:
check this out guys, there might actually be a mate 30 x )))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vPJYhtbAo
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Yes, they written about the m30x on huawei central, not much writing, but still it confirm the m30x [emoji1303]

BigDisplay said:
Yes, they written about the m30x on huawei central, not much writing, but still it confirm the m30x [emoji1303]
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Huawei event is next week, i hope that they announce the Mate 30 X. :fingers-crossed:
https://youtu.be/EMnnKKNer44

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Huawei event is next week, i hope that they announce the Mate 30 X. :fingers-crossed:
https://youtu.be/EMnnKKNer44
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Ooohhhhhhhh yeeeaaaahhhhhh, me 2.
Will be awesome and think or really hope it comes with 5G to, but if it don't, they make a 4G and a 5G version ofc, so it will not really be a problem i guees
Last year i heard about m20x very late.
I had my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra since 2016 and heard about Mi Max 3 which i bought, but it had a fake rom and i sold it after 1 month.
Then i bought the Samsung Note 8, but sold it again after 1 week, it was all to tiny for me, really... yes.
Then i bought the Honor 8X Max and around same time the Honor Note 10 came to, i bought this to and sold the 8xm again [emoji1787]. I keep the N10 for around 3 month, i really loves it and thheennnnn i heard about my baby Mate 20X L29 (636), then i bought this and one of my daughters got the N10.
But this year no Mi Max 4 and around Honor 9X Max and Honor Note 11, they will not come before next year, because they release them every second year only, so maybe it will be Honor 10X Max and Honor Note 12 instead i think.
So im happy they will release a M30X and even with a larger display, thats i like a lot.
I still dream of a Mate X phone with 16:9 format 6,8 inch in 16:9 could give us a hell of a phone... I will keep on dreaming LOL.

BigDisplay said:
Ooohhhhhhhh yeeeaaaahhhhhh, me 2.
Will be awesome and think or really hope it comes with 5G to, but if it don't, they make a 4G and a 5G version ofc, so it will not really be a problem i guees
Last year i heard about m20x very late.
I had my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra since 2016 and heard about Mi Max 3 which i bought, but it had a fake rom and i sold it after 1 month.
Then i bought the Samsung Note 8, but sold it again after 1 week, it was all to tiny for me, really... yes.
Then i bought the Honor 8X Max and around same time the Honor Note 10 came to, i bought this to and sold the 8xm again [emoji1787]. I keep the N10 for around 3 month, i really loves it and thheennnnn i heard about my baby Mate 20X L29 (636), then i bought this and one of my daughters got the N10.
But this year no Mi Max 4 and around Honor 9X Max and Honor Note 11, they will not come before next year, because they release them every second year only, so maybe it will be Honor 10X Max and Honor Note 12 instead i think.
So im happy they will release a M30X and even with a larger display, thats i like a lot.
I still dream of a Mate X phone with 16:9 format 6,8 inch in 16:9 could give us a hell of a phone... I will keep on dreaming LOL.
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Yeah i was also on the big phone wagon. I started with Samsung Note 1 (was big in that time) and then bought many more big phones (don't know the time order anymore):
Samsung Note 1,2,3,4,5
Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Huawei Honor X2
Lenovo Phab
Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra
Huawei P8 Max
Honor Note 8 and 10

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Yeah i was also on the big phone wagon. I started with Samsung Note 1 (was big in that time) and then bought many more big phones (don't know the time order anymore):
Samsung Note 1,2,3,4,5
Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Huawei Honor X2
Lenovo Phab
Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra
Huawei P8 Max
Honor Note 8 and 10
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Lol nice, had Sammy note 4 and 5 to btw, if i remember rihgt they was 5,7 inch in my loving 16:9 format... Huge phones.
But this i like most was my zenfone 3 ultra, still have it , but never use it anylonger, but its still a beast today in my opinion.

Now the bad news if true
https://mobile.twitter.com/RODENT950/status/1166778114548146177

Don't jump to conclusions. YouTube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vPJYhtbAo looks more like list of wishes and speculations to me than firm confirmation of Mate 30X launch. On the other side China and the US are still in harsh trading negotiations. I think it's too early to say there will be no Google for Mate 30.

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Now the bad news if true
https://mobile.twitter.com/RODENT950/status/1166778114548146177
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I use Google my self, but to be honest... I would love to try Harmony OS and i will find my self some other stuff mail prg etc etc.
So for me this could be good, Android not that exciting anymore, only minor updates every time a new version comes. And iOS, been there done that.
Its NASTY as we say these days in Denmark [emoji1787][emoji23]

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Now the bad news if true
https://mobile.twitter.com/RODENT950/status/1166778114548146177
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https://www.gsmarena.com/us_commerc...m_us_companies_to_trade_huawei-news-38916.php
Looks like all will be normal again

BigDisplay said:
https://www.gsmarena.com/us_commerc...m_us_companies_to_trade_huawei-news-38916.php
Looks like all will be normal again
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Here they say it will have Android but without the Google apps.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...unch-under-cloud-of-android-ban-idUSKCN1VI240

Huawei will be doing fine with Harmony OS. Who needs google apps when you can have all the Chinese alternative apps. No youtube? Use Youku. No Google search? Use Baidu. No gmail? Use QQ mail.

Frankly, the Mate 20 X is the best of a bad bunch, hardware wise.
The *quality* of the hardware is outstanding. Screen quality, camera quality, performance, build quality etc etc.
However the form factor is crap. All these tall devices waste so much screen area. They're crap for browsing. Crap for productivity. Crap for videos and photos.
At 7.2", the screen has 1.5mm less width than my 6.6" Honor Note 8, and about 16mm more height.
Guess what's more useful in 99% of use cases, and easier to use without thumb gymnastics? The extra width, not the extra height.
For all intents and purposes, the screen feels marginally smaller than my HN8, and definitely more awkward to use.
If a 30 X does appear. I can't possibly imagine it being less than 19.5:9 (20 X is 18.5:9), because they want as big a gulf as possible between normal handsets and the Mate X (and its coming successors). They want you to pay through the nose for usable screen width, and the marketing guys love these nominally diagonally large screen measurements that narrow aspect ones have.
19.5:9 at probably 7.4-7.5" inches ... have fun with that.

mudnightoil said:
Frankly, the Mate 20 X is the best of a bad bunch, hardware wise.
The *quality* of the hardware is outstanding. Screen quality, camera quality, performance, build quality etc etc.
However the form factor is crap. All these tall devices waste so much screen area. They're crap for browsing. Crap for productivity. Crap for videos and photos.
At 7.2", the screen has 1.5mm less width than my 6.6" Honor Note 8, and about 16mm more height.
Guess what's more useful in 99% of use cases, and easier to use without thumb gymnastics? The extra width, not the extra height.
For all intents and purposes, the screen feels marginally smaller than my HN8, and definitely more awkward to use.
If a 30 X does appear. I can't possibly imagine it being less than 19.5:9 (20 X is 18.5:9), because they want as big a gulf as possible between normal handsets and the Mate X (and its coming successors). They want you to pay through the nose for usable screen width, and the marketing guys love these nominally diagonally large screen measurements that narrow aspect has.
19.5:9 at probably 7.4-7.5" inches ... have fun with that.
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I tried making a dummy for the phone to compare the size to my note 5 and I would definitely take 7.4 or 7.5 with more smart aspect like you mentioned, either way this kind of device is for big size phablets fanatics like us, we know what we want and can handle it.

I am a big fan of mate 20X, despite of the notch on the 30x as rumours shows, i'll be waiting for the boss.....
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MONSTERELLEVEN said:
I tried making a dummy for the phone to compare the size to my note 5 and I would definitely take 7.4 or 7.5 with more smart aspect like you mentioned, either way this kind of device is for big size phablets fanatics like us, we know what we want and can handle it.
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I'd happily take a 7.5-8" device in 16:9 16:10, as you'd actually be getting useful screen area. Even if it was very difficult to fully operate one handed.
Over 7" at 19.5:9 (or even worse) ... it's just pointless. You have huge areas of unused or poorly utilised screen area, and a really un-ergonomic device - unless you have a freakishly long thumb.

mudnightoil said:
I'd happily take a 7.5-8" device in 16:9 16:10, as you'd actually be getting useful screen area. Even if it was very difficult to fully operate one handed.
Over 7" at 19.5:9 (or even worse) ... it's just pointless. You have huge areas of unused or poorly utilised screen area, and a really un-ergonomic device - unless you have a freakishly long thumb.
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I am all in for a bug screen that's well used, I already don't care for one handed use bc I want big so I won't complain about sth I already know!
I totally get it about the aspect ratio.

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I am a big fan of mate 20X, despite of the notch on the 30x as rumours shows, i'll be waiting for the boss.....
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I didn't buy the mate 20 x to wait and see if there is a mate 30x.
I don't want too much changes but somethings could get better like higher resolution for more clarity, better video quality / cam etc, maybe a hole bunch camera on the top left side to minimize the distraction etc or even in the middle like the note, an even bigger battery if possible ( 5000 is still awesome) 8 gigs of ram to be standard across all versions with 256 gigs.

I hope they take the pen serious this time... I love love loved the Mate 20 X but I'm being forced to consider the Note 10 because of the lack of pen functionality. Doesn't work near screen edge, short battery, can't use while charging, can't use when dead, button is useless, tip is tacky and lacks feedback, no real software support, etc. I would love to go Huawei again if they put more thought into the pen.

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I hope they take the pen serious this time... I love love loved the Mate 20 X but I'm being forced to consider the Note 10 because of the lack of pen functionality. Doesn't work near screen edge, short battery, can't use while charging, can't use when dead, button is useless, tip is tacky and lacks feedback, no real software support, etc. I would love to go Huawei again if they put more thought into the pen.
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Totally agree with you on the pen, right now it does feel just like any other stylus etc

2 years later and I keep coming back...this phone is STILL amazing.

I have a bad habit of going through phones like nobodies business and over the years I have owned what most would call too many. In fact the first question my colleagues usually ask me when we have team meetings etc is what phone do you have now? I have had a few favs all the way back to the first Sony CMZ100 to the Xperia Z-Ultra (had a few stares with that one).
I have never gone back to a phone over two years old on multiple occasions. I have bought and sold my Mate 20x twice and this is my third. I just cannot understand why this thing keeps calling me back.
Maybe it’s the beaut 7.2" flat screen (I must admit the Note 10+ almost had me but sold it as I didn’t like the curve).
Perhaps it’s the never fails fingerprint reader on the back that just always seems to work (that in screen one on the Note 10+ seemed to fail me 8 out of ten times).
Could it be the never ending battery life of the Mate 20X which is just fantastic.
Even now, two years later I still find myself picking this phone up and just looking at it and thinking how amazing it is.
Huawei hit it out of the park with this phone and I wonder if we will ever see another Mate..X to replace it...maybe one day we will.

imapfsr said:
I have a bad habit of going through phones like nobodies business and over the years I have owned what most would call too many. In fact the first question my colleagues usually ask me when we have team meetings etc is what phone do you have now? I have had a few favs all the way back to the first Sony CMZ100 to the Xperia Z-Ultra (had a few stares with that one).
I have never gone back to a phone over two years old on multiple occasions. I have bought and sold my Mate 20x twice and this is my third. I just cannot understand why this thing keeps calling me back.
Maybe it’s the beaut 7.2" flat screen (I must admit the Note 10+ almost had me but sold it as I didn’t like the curve).
Perhaps it’s the never fails fingerprint reader on the back that just always seems to work (that in screen one on the Note 10+ seemed to fail me 8 out of ten times).
Could it be the never ending battery life of the Mate 20X which is just fantastic.
Even now, two years later I still find myself picking this phone up and just looking at it and thinking how amazing it is.
Huawei hit it out of the park with this phone and I wonder if we will ever see another Mate..X to replace it...maybe one day we will.
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Very well said. I am the same. Get asked by colleagues nd regular clients what phone I have quiet regulary as I change mine very often but have managed to keep my Mate 20X 5G and had the non 5g before for a short period. I must say I still miss my Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra for its powerful dual speaker that to date no phone can match (5g Mate20x only has 1 speaker and the earpiece speaker as a 2nd loudspeaker).
Overall all is good but given the actual phone size of my previously owned Asus ZF3U, I think Huawei could easily offer a larger 7.9"/8.4" display on next version with integrated stylus, independent dualsim+memory card expansion (better dual sim management options inside the notification menu as options/shortcuts) better customisable launcher like the Asus Launcher and finally at least dual but preferably quad speaker setup. Then this phone would be the ultimate productivity and entertainment device.
My phone came with Android 9 and now updated to Android 10, I am loving it even more. I enjoy how apps can be scaled with system wide dpi changes and find that I don't need my laptop for some productivity tasks, which is what these devices should offer given their size.
I really hope we can get Automatic Call Recording working again on the International EVR-N29 5g model as Android 10 took that apk workaround away.
Just imagine having a dual display accessory of the same size for this phone like the LG V60-maybe with the stylus integrated into it, then nothing would match this device on the market.

It's the same here, in 2018 I had 5 phones. Until 2018 I had the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra, this huge phone I still miss sometimes (still have it).
But since this piece of art, I can't find any other phone which can match it... At all.
I still looks at Sammy S20 Ultra, but some things like the size, no Snapdragon in my county etc.
So I keep my M20X L29 636, with a smile on my face.
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Huawei hit it out of the park with this phone and I wonder if we will ever see another Mate..X to replace it...maybe one day we will.
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Funny you mention that. I was very close to buying the mate 20X. But as soon as news of the new Xiaomi Black Shark 3 Pro with 7.1 inch screen was released I soon forgot about any idea of buying it.
Right now the specs of the BS3 Pro destroy the 20X big time. I can't wait for it to officially come out. When it does I'll judge it against the 20X. If reviews on it meet my expectations I'll quickly forget about any chance of buying the 20X. If not I will buy the 20X. But to be perfectly honest, I think it will demolish the 20X.
Its time that a new big 7 inch screen phone take over as an upgrade. The 20X is definitely getting a bit old now.

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Funny you mention that. I was very close to buying the mate 20X. But as soon as news of the new Xiaomi Black Shark 3 Pro with 7.1 inch screen was released I soon forgot about any idea of buying it.
Right now the specs of the BS3 Pro destroy the 20X big time. I can't wait for it to officially come out. When it does I'll judge it against the 20X. If reviews on it meet my expectations I'll quickly forget about any chance of buying the 20X. If not I will buy the 20X. But to be perfectly honest, I think it will demolish the 20X.
Its time that a new big 7 inch screen phone take over as an upgrade. The 20X is definitely getting a bit old now.
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Wouuvvvv thx for info, I did not hear about this phone before.
I have the M20X since 2018, still hell of a phone, but this Xiaomi Black Shark 3 Pro will beat it Ofc, it's around 2 years later now (around).
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Wouuvvvv thx for info, I did not hear about this phone before.
I have the M20X since 2018, still hell of a phone, but this Xiaomi Black Shark 3 Pro will beat it Ofc, it's around 2 years later now (around).
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Arrrr isn't the Xiaomi Black Shark 3 Pro with the damn curved display?? If it's a yes it's a no thx from here.
Tried it 3 times in the past with Sammy S serie edge phones, I really can't live with this, it's so annoying and makes the display even smaller to.
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I agree! I almost sold this phone and thank God I didn't!, Yeah so there's new phone that are big but better specs. Who the fook cares! People so concerned about specs and the latest processor, etc. I'm more interested in my own every day usage. So the hottest newest 7 inch phone is faster and has more ram/ storage or a "better" camera. So what! Most people will not notice or need this ****e in their day to day usage. Most reviewers are complaining about stuff that really doesn't matter if you actually take the time to use it. I love this phone!
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I agree! I almost sold this phone and thank God I didn't!, Yeah so there's new phone that are big but better specs. Who the **** cares! People so concerned about specs and I'm more interested in my own every day usage. So the newest version makes my phone faster and has more ram or storage. Who cares. I don't notice the difference in my have. I love this phone!
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Correct. I can't wait for the Black Shark 3 Pro to come out also. Definitely a big upgrade from the 20X, big time! It also has wireless charging for its 7.1 inch screen. It'll be the new king of big phones from now on.

Wireless charging??? Like you said, it takes forever. to charge. I have no NEED for wireless charging. People are so lazy they can't use a cable?? That's a reason to upgrade a fantastic phone?? You want a bigger screen?? 8.4 inch phone? The 7.1 inch phone is already a bit heavy in the pocket. SMH. Most people don't think for themselves and allow reviewers, specs and technology trends to dictate what's good for them.
Also it's ridiculous when reviewers complain about no headphone jack. It is clear to me they are just repeating other reviewers say and not actually using the device for any substantial amount of time. Yeah it would be nice if every tech still had headphone jacks. But since they don't and most include an adapter or adapters are a few bucks - who cares. In my day to day usage, the inconvenience of not having a headphone jack (on my other devices) is ZERO.
Most people are too concerned with the latest and greatest tech for their devices rather then thinking for themselves to see what actually matters.
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Please guys... Respect we all thinking different or it will be a ****ty place to be.
I have been in here since I bought my M20X l29 636 in 2018.
2 month ago or something I left the forum because of pll yak yak yak. Some days ago I came back to se and still the same...??
Why are folks like this, see the world right now fill up with egoistic morans with their heads up in their a..
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BigDisplay said:
Please guys... Respect we all thinking different or it will be a ****ty place to be.
I have been in here since I bought my M20X l29 636 in 2018.
2 month ago or something I left the forum because of pll yak yak yak. Some days ago I came back to se and still the same...??
Why are folks like this, see the world right now fill up with egoistic morans with their heads up in their a..
[emoji2962]
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Yes but at least have big proper reason to really upgrade the phone..
Nowadays ppl just doing it because they are being forced or blinded.. Like elcidroyale said..
Who on earth needs crazy camera with unrealistic 100x pointless zoom when nobody goonna even using it? Or nobody normal person orderdinary not even using camera how week is long.??? 5 - 7 photos that's it.. Or when cpu is only like 5% better which you will NEVER ever notice..
And biggest nonsense RAM. Just every one is gimmicked and lured by increasing numbers which not doing anything.. Only longer time of evolving electronic devices will feel the difference or when something isn't working on particular device or support is discontinued..
My laptop from 2015 had its limits as hdmi was outdated and I couldn't run [email protected] on my new 4k tv.. Now new laptops support hdmi 2.0 so I need to buy new laptop. And yes the picture from old tv is a huge difference + amazing HDR brightness- THIS is real upgrade no one year old phone only.. This phone has still another year or two potential..
My brother stil owns Honor 6 Plus and that's quite old I bought him new sony xiperia 10 and he still doesn't want to get rid of honor 6+

PhoneTechShop said:
Yes but at least have big proper reason to really upgrade the phone..
Nowadays ppl just doing it because they are being forced or blinded.. Like elcidroyale said..
Who on earth needs crazy camera with unrealistic 100x pointless zoom when nobody goonna even using it? Or nobody normal person orderdinary not even using camera how week is long.??? 5 - 7 photos that's it.. Or when cpu is only like 5% better which you will NEVER ever notice..
And biggest nonsense RAM. Just every one is gimmicked and lured by increasing numbers which not doing anything.. Only longer time of evolving electronic devices will feel the difference or when something isn't working on particular device or support is discontinued..
My laptop from 2015 had its limits as hdmi was outdated and I couldn't run [email protected] on my new 4k tv.. Now new laptops support hdmi 2.0 so I need to buy new laptop. And yes the picture from old tv is a huge difference + amazing HDR brightness- THIS is real upgrade no one year old phone only.. This phone has still another year or two potential..
My brother stil owns Honor 6 Plus and that's quite old I bought him new sony xiperia 10 and he still doesn't want to get rid of honor 6+
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I agree 100% with u in ur headlines about phone updates. But still we can respect each other and if we disagree, we still can tell it in a proper tone.
That's just my opinion.
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You should also respect other's opinions. Now you add to negativity. I respect others opinion. My opinions is my own. Now you come and add to yak yak LOL
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Please guys... Respect we all thinking different or it will be a ****ty place to be.
I have been in here since I bought my M20X l29 636 in 2018.
2 month ago or something I left the forum because of pll yak yak yak. Some days ago I came back to se and still the same...??
Why are folks like this, see the world right now fill up with egoistic morans with their heads up in their a..
[emoji2962]
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I don't know it just pisses me of when ppl even don't know what they want..
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elcidroyale said:
You should also respect other's opinions. Now you add to negativity. I respect others opinion. My opinions is my own. Now you come and add to yak yak LOL
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Yes yak, yak is my word for people who can't talk in a decent way and respect other pll opinions in the good way as the rules describes.
Like when some in here get the words deleted by the ADMIN because they can't behave themselves, so other pll can enjoy the forum and talking about phones.
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elcidroyale said:
Wireless charging??? Like you said, it takes forever. to charge. I have no NEED for wireless charging. People are so lazy they can't use a cable?? That's a reason to upgrade a fantastic phone?? You want a bigger screen?? 8.4 inch phone? The 7.1 inch phone is already a bit heavy in the pocket. SMH. Most people don't think for themselves and allow reviewers, specs and technology trends to dictate what's good for them.
Also it's ridiculous when reviewers complain about no headphone jack. It is clear to me they are just repeating other reviewers say and not actually using the device for any substantial amount of time. Yeah it would be nice if every tech still had headphone jacks. But since they don't and most include an adapter or adapters are a few bucks - who cares. In my day to day usage, the inconvenience of not having a headphone jack (on my other devices) is ZERO.
Most people are too concerned with the latest and greatest tech for their devices rather then thinking for themselves to see what actually matters.
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Dude, calm down. How do you know wireless charging on the bs3 pro takes forever to charge when it hasn't officialy come out yet? Then you said the phone is 8.4 inch. Its actually 7.1 inch. Where are you getting all your info from??
You need to seriously research a phone before you smack it around with complaints. I can't believe you said the phone was 8.4 inch when its 7.1 inch. I'm baffled.
You need to accept that the "latest and greatest tech" is now here and is pushing the mate 20 x off its throne. This isn't a competition, its just a comparison of one phone that has all the things the 20x lacks. Imagine holding on to a phone for 7 years when all phones have upgraded and have become the latest and greatest. Time for change.
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I don't get it either amigo.
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Exactly. The black shark 3 pro is a huge upgrade from the mate 20X. At some point tech gets old and has to be replaced. I give the 20x just 6 months to a year potential. Time to upgrade!

Same story for me. I am on my third. Keep buying one and selling from disappointment with EMUI 9. But now... EMUI 10 has changed everything. I can FINALLY set a system wide DPI that isn't grandpa mode, and it FINALLY has a useful AOD.

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Same story for me. I am on my third. Keep buying one and selling from disappointment with EMUI 9. But now... EMUI 10 has changed everything. I can FINALLY set a system wide DPI that isn't grandpa mode, and it FINALLY has a useful AOD.
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What u set ur dpi on?
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520. Could go higher but it's nice as is.

loudog3114 said:
520. Could go higher but it's nice as is.
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520 is cool. But I bet it hurts your battery.

Jojokoo said:
520 is cool. But I bet it hurts your battery.
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Funny you say that, I have noticed drain being higher than stock 9.1 but I figured it was an EMUI 10 thing. Why would higher DPI hurt the battery? More drawing?

Mate 20X EVR-L29 in USA

I was told that the 20x no longer works with any cellphone carriers in the US but I purchased a EVR-L29 model anyways and having them shipped over here in the states because I really like the phone for media consumption. I am just wondering if there is any current owners here in the US that can confirm or deny this fact.

I'm still using mine here in South Carolina with AT&T. No problems at all.

Still using mine with T-mobile

As long as your local carrier supports the LTE frequencies the EVR-L29 transmits and receives on then you are fine. The ban on Google and Android software on new Huawei hardware doesn't effect the functionality of phones manufactured before the ban. We have still have an EVR-L29 in our household in Canada and it still gets regular OTA updates and connected fine to local US carriers while we were in Boston and New York last week. I sold our my own EVR-L29 last year and have been using a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra to get the faster 5g speeds, but the Mate 20 x is still my favorite phone and when ever I get a chance to take my wife's on the road with me.

frcraig said:
I sold our my own EVR-L29 last year and have been using a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra to get the faster 5g speeds, but the Mate 20 x is still my favorite phone and when ever I get a chance to take my wife's on the road with me.
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I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.

Deanro said:
I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.
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The screen size and aspect ratio of the Mate 20 x have the Note Ultra 20 beat hands down. Whether it is reading a Kindle novel to pass time on a flight or reading articles on the internet, the Mate 20 x is just the right size for the job. Although on paper the dimensions of the Note 20 Ultra are not that much smaller, I find myself squinting a bit at the screen and often have to pinch to zoom. One advantage the Note 20 Ultra has that you wouldn't notice if you didn't switch back and forth between the models is the refresh rate. The adaptive 60 / 90 / 120 refresh rate on the Samsung product makes touch gestures buttery smooth - but I still prefer the increased screen real estate of the Huawei.

frcraig said:
The screen size and aspect ratio of the Mate 20 x have the Note Ultra 20 beat hands down. Whether it is reading a Kindle novel to pass time on a flight or reading articles on the internet, the Mate 20 x is just the right size for the job. Although on paper the dimensions of the Note 20 Ultra are not that much smaller, I find myself squinting a bit at the screen and often have to pinch to zoom. One advantage the Note 20 Ultra has that you wouldn't notice if you didn't switch back and forth between the models is the refresh rate. The adaptive 60 / 90 / 120 refresh rate on the Samsung product makes touch gestures buttery smooth - but I still prefer the increased screen real estate of the Huawei.
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What do you think about the Honor x30 max since its the same size and aspect ratio as the 20x?

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What do you think about the Honor x30 max since its the same size and aspect ratio as the 20x?
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The Honor has larger bezels and a taller aspect ratio resulting in less screen than the Huawei. I haven't seen a review of its camera set up, but the Huawei is still brilliant and for sound also has aptX HD. Huawei has been good about OTA updates for the Mate 20 x, continuing to treat it as a flagship phone. Makes life easier than side-loading Google apps on the Honor.

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Still using mine with T-mobile
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This is not the 5G version correct? Also, what kinda of download and upload speeds do you get with Tmobile?

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The Honor has larger bezels and a taller aspect ratio resulting in less screen than the Huawei.
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Btw how's the battery on your note 20 ultra compared to the 20x?

My Mate 20 x gives me about six hour more use on a charge than the Note 20 Ultra, but I can fully charge the Note 20 Ultra in about forty minutes.

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My Mate 20 x gives me about six hour more use on a charge than the Note 20 Ultra, but I can fully charge the Note 20 Ultra in about forty minutes.
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That's strange. Most users report that the n20u gives more battery usage than the 20x. And 6 hours more with only 500 mah difference? That doesnt sound right.

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This is not the 5G version correct? Also, what kinda of download and upload speeds do you get with Tmobile?
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Correct, no 5g. My up and down speeds r fine. T-mobile service here in SW Virginia has improved a lot over the last year including rural areas.

Deanro said:
I was strongly thinking about buying the note 20 ultra. Its better than the 20x except for screen size and aspect ratio, of course. But the note 20 ultra is an amazing phone with the best display on the planet. Still thinking about buying one and selling my mate 20x.
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I got rid of an S20+ because I didn't like the form factor. It's just taller than much lighter phones that have the same width. Pointless to get a tiny width phone like Note 20/21/22 Ultra phone - they are all the some width just some are taller and heavier. There is no use of the extra vertical space. Only reason for S22 ultra is for 1TB, but it's sold out anyway, and you can't root it for US version, and it's $1400 which is ridiculous, and you can't get the international yet, and still it's just a massive phone but not any wider than much lighter phones, defeating the purpose of making it heavier, they just make it taller and taller, soon we will have one that looks like a yard stick, thin and way too tall. They won't learn.

Deanro said:
That's strange. Most users report that the n20u gives more battery usage than the 20x. And 6 hours more with only 500 mah difference? That doesnt sound right.
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It's not strange. The resolution is much lower and so is the refresh rate. half the refresh and half the resolution makes it a 4x smaller screen to power, despite being a larger screen, so this gives the screen up to 4x battery life in that general example.

Hey, so I don't mean to hijack the thread, but ATT turned off their 3G network earlier this week and I can no longer make or receive calls on my EVR-L29. Just wondering if anyone had found a workaround to this issue. Are there any other Huawei phones of a similar size that will work with VoLTE? I also thought of another possible workaround by porting my ATT number to a Google voice account thereby forcing my phone to operate as a VoLTE device. I looked into it and it will cost a one time fee of twenty dollars a month to port over the number. I'm just not sure if it's going to work the way I want it to. Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in once again, sorry to hijack the thread but I really don't know where else I can go to try and get some input regarding this issue.... And I really don't want to part with my beloved Mate 20X.

I have Verizon on my V30S, and I've tried a few different devices since then but stuck going back to V30S. It's still a great phone, I was just wanting a larger OLED display for reading. The Mate 20 X has it. It's the widest phone on the market.
I tried the S20+ (last Galaxy phone that has expandable storage), but I did not like it and returned it. Actually they sent me the 5G US model when I ordered the 4G international model on purpose, but since I had to return it anyway, I do not want another S20+, it's the same width as my V30, just taller and heavier, defeating the purpose.
I want text bigger on the screen which is why I want a wider phone, and there is no modern tablet that exists in that form factor with OLED, and the A7 Lite doesn't have OLED but the form factor is ok. I wish it were smaller. Debating keeping it.
But to keep this Mate 20 X I need to root it. A device that is not rootable has no use to me. There are too many essential things that I need root for.
As for using it on a US network, I got this phone mainly as a tablet, and I have an MVNO GSM sim that I haven't tried in this phone yet. I usually use wifi anyway, but I would need to have data to be practical to have this as a daily driver.
However, if 5G becomes a permanent thing, then because 5G gives me severe headaches, I will simply never be able to use data again, I will only use WIFI at home, and the only other essential thing I use data for is Google Maps, but I can get an offline maps app that will just just fine and when I'm in a store I can connect to their WIFI if I want to google something. And if that becomes a problem, I will change my way of life and not contact anyone when away from home, I'll keep a burner phone in my car if I have to for emergency use. That said, soon I will have to move out into the country in the middle of nowhere because all the cities have already rolled out 5G anyway.
For me, the purpose of a phone is as a media device, reading, and wifi use. I don't need cellular 99% of the time. Guess what, people used to use landlines and didn't have cell phones, and the world survived. I don't mind going back to a landline if I need that as a phone service. Smartphones I will use as computers, not cellular. My laptop does not have a cellular connection and doesn't need one. My smartphone doesn't either. It's a very minor convenience.

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It's not strange. The resolution is much lower and so is the refresh rate. half the refresh and half the resolution makes it a 4x smaller screen to power, despite being a larger screen, so this gives the screen up to 4x battery life in that general example.
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It is strange. The n20u has far better batt efficiency that the 20x since the n20u's software is specificaly tuned for best batt performance unlike the 20x whose software isnt geared towards such a standard. The n20u outshines the 20x in battery life. Your assessment of deriving 4x more batt life by a mere 500mah difference is very poor.

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But to keep this Mate 20 X I need to root it. A device that is not rootable has no use to me. There are too many essential things that I need root for.
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The problem with rooting it is you have to downgrade which is a pain in the ass in and of itself to say the least. Then the issue in going back to 9 is lack of universal dark mode for some apps - although most apps have that anyway. Plus, the o/s looks like outdated kit kat from ages ago and is much slower than 11.
What benefits were you expecting to derive from rooting it?

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The problem with rooting it is you have to downgrade which is a pain in the ass in and of itself to say the least. Then the issue in going back to 9 is lack of universal dark mode for some apps - although most apps have that anyway. Plus, the o/s looks like outdated kit kat from ages ago and is much slower than 11.
What benefits were you expecting to derive from rooting it?
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Ok, awesome. How do I downgrade? I've been trying to figure it out. My other phone is on 8.0, Android 9 is still an upgrade from that. This phone is 1,000,000 times more useful on an older OS than on a new OS I can't root.
I've written the benefits before, they are too numerous to list in a quick post, I could write for an hour about all the reasons. Almost all of them are essential to my use.
Can you help me get this downgraded?