so I got Need for speed for my Xperia S (great game by the way, would recommend) the only problem is it is un UTTER battery drain, I'm talking rapid draining even having the screen brightness on low. Do you think the battery is getting damaged by my heavy use in this way? I'm charging it to full, playing it for a good hour and then it needs to be recharged so I plug it in.
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adsada arc said:
so I got Need for speed for my Xperia S (great game by the way, would recommend) the only problem is it is un UTTER battery drain, I'm talking rapid draining even having the screen brightness on low. Do you think the battery is getting damaged by my heavy use in this way? I'm charging it to full, playing it for a good hour and then it needs to be recharged so I plug it in.
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No you are not damaging the battery. Hd games drain your battery. Dont worry it happens with every phone. Please post questions in question and answer section.
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How about if I play while the phone is charging, does this affect it in any way, like how with a laptop you should take out the battery if its plugged into the wall to extend the battery's life?
adsada arc said:
How about if I play while the phone is charging, does this affect it in any way, like how with a laptop you should take out the battery if its plugged into the wall to extend the battery's life?
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No it wont affect your battery...I have been doing that for the past 10 months
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It's a difficult question. From one perspective it's better to keep the phone plugged in because a Li-ion battery has a finite amount of recharging cycles. The worst thing you can do is to completely discharge your battery, then completely charge it again and so on several times. Which is what you've been doing and these are wasted recharge cycles.
But constantly charging your phone will also make it hotter and that combined with an intensive game will make your phone too hot, which might result in some components overheating and a reduced life expectancy.
So I'd advice to keep your phone plugged in if possible, but don't play for hours.
When you compare to laptops, it's indeed better to remove the battery when you're plugged into the wall (keep in mind that the battery doesn't lose its charge though, there's nothing worse for a Li-ion than being completely empty). But there's no phone you can run without a battery so you can't do that . It's also a question of luck. I never remove my laptop's battery and it still easily lasts 2 hours after having it for 2.5 years and using it a LOT (when plugged in mostly). It was just a cheap laptop with a 6 cells battery. Most of my friends that have a laptop that old or older (and also more expensive) can barely keep it charged for more than 10 minutes now.
No,
nowadays you can't damage your battery in any way as I know.
But it is recommended to charge your phone to 100% and turn all notifications off then let it on sleep mode till your Phone is going off by itself.
This doesn't improve the Battery lifetime or something like that but it is recommeded
thanks for the advice everyone
Good morning everyone,
I'm not sure if this is a common issue, or it is just me. I often use my Z1C for torrenting and streaming while pluging in the charger, but the instead of charging, the battery keeps draining. is it a normal thing? sorry if this looks lika a dumb question, i'm really a noob around here, hehe
thanks in advance for the response
If the phone requires more power than the charger can provide, it'll drain. Straight logic.
From USB port you can gain to 0,9A. Your phone drain in normal usage when screen is on 0,5A. But if you use your phone more than that it can drain about 1A-1,4A so you need normal charger minimum 1,5A or higher.
While charging, streaming n downloading make ur phone hot and the phone itself stop charging or control charging current thats why it behaves like that.. It is very fustrating and in cm u will get rid of it..
Hi. I am using the bundled moto turbo charger with my phone and have noticed that the phone sides and back get hot mid-charge when charging and cools down when the battery is about 80% full. Is this a problem with my phone/charger or does it happen with you guys also.
Its cause of the Turbo charger
That's absolutely normal. Don't worry.
Yup happens to mine too. Heats up quite a bit and then cools down after a while
Clean your charging jack once with hot gun with paste.
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No need to be worried then as its common for everyone. Thanks.
It's completely normal, phones from ~2-3 years ago (before quick charging) didnt have this problem because they didnt have to dissipate the heat generated by forcing 15 (moto Z) to 25 (moto X) watts into the phone. Phones pre-quick charging only took in ~5-10 watts which is much easier for a phone to handle, although its also much slower. If you dont need to quick charge I would recommend using a normal power brick which will charge it slower, but also generate less heat. Some people think the heat can cause the battery to lose capacity quicker, while manufacturers say it doesnt. Honestly I dont know which is true so I cant say. I personally so far have charged over night on usb (~2.5 watts) and its done charging my phone and my moto mod by morning from <30% to 100%.
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Hi. I am using the bundled moto turbo charger with my phone and have noticed that the phone sides and back get hot mid-charge when charging and cools down when the battery is about 80% full. Is this a problem with my phone/charger or does it happen with you guys also.
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No need to worry, that's completely normal. The phone turbo charges until it hits the 80% mark, then the turbo stops and until 100% it charges normally, like any other phone, so it doesn't get hot. During the turbo charge it's normal that the phone heats, as it uses more power to charge faster, and from 80 to 100%, it begins to cool down, because it uses less power to complete the charge.
Normal
compared with x style
z play is nothing:laugh:
A potential work around
I realized that if you remove the back cover (style mod) while charging and keep the phone a little raised from the surface the extreme heat is not experienced.
You could try and confirm.
Hi, I have Samsung Galaxy S20+ G985F/DS (Exynos). Few weeks ago I get a new company car, which has wireless Smartlink+ for android auto and apple car play. I was used to use cable, but few days ago I decided to bought wireless charger (Baseus Cobble 15W) to my car. Since then I have problem with overheating my phone when I am using wireless android auto and wirelessly charging it. I am using Spotify and Waze together and at same time I am charging it with wireless charger, but after few minutes (usually 5-10 minutes) it disconnets with error that my phone is too hot and it will continue charging after it will be colder. When I try to take a phone its damn hot. Is this normal behaviour or my phone is broken?
Running the battery hot will cause premature aging fast; stop doing it.
Software may be using a lot of cpu cycles; wayward apk(s).
Correct this if so.
It's not a good idea to charge and use the phone.
Get a fast charger for the car; you get about 2% per minute with a 25 watt one in fast charging mode between 40-65%.
A 25% charge should last 2 hours.
Li's love frequent partial midrange charge cycles and will get hundreds to thousands more full charge cycles when used like this. Partial fast charging does no harm as long as you keep the temp in the 80-99F range.
Try to avoid charging when under 80F and especially if near or below freezing temperatures.
Been using my 10+ like that for over a year, the battery is in very good condition to spite near all day use.
blackhawk said:
Running the battery hot will cause premature aging fast; stop doing it.
Software may be using a lot of cpu cycles; wayward apk(s).
Correct this if so.
It's not a good idea to charge and use the phone.
Get a fast charger for the car; you get about 2% per minute with a 25 watt one in fast charging mode between 40-65%.
A 25% charge should last 2 hours.
Li's love frequent partial midrange charge cycles and will get hundreds to thousands more full charge cycles when used like this. Partial fast charging does no harm as long as you keep the temp in the 80-99F range.
Try to avoid charging when under 80F and especially if near or below freezing temperatures.
Been using my 10+ like that for over a year, the battery is in very good condition to spite near all day use.
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Well thank you for your answer, but I don't understand you well. Your post is very confusing. But from what I understand, you simply tell me, that I must buy normal wire charger and I must stop using wireless charger because using it is not good? But that is not answer that i want. Because I don't want to plug cable to phone, because when I have wireless android auto in my car, its useless. For example my colleague have car with built in wireless charger. And from what you told me, he can't use this built in charger because its bad?
You have two issues.
App(s) that are using excessive battery.
Charging while using.
Both are best avoided and both drive up the temperature.
Of course you can do what you want but battery longevity may take a hit in doing so.
Karma Firewall is useful for finding unnecessary bandwidth hogs and some of the battery hogs. Start with that.
All wireless chargers make phone hot. Even if you use it at home and no aps are open.
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All wireless chargers make phone hot. Even if you use it at home and no aps are open.
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Excellent point.
A damp rag can be used to reduce the temp.
Unless the charge port is broken wireless charging just doesn't seem like a good modility.
Even at high frequency and optimum primary/secondary winding gapping air core transformers are notoriously inefficient.
These batteries are power hungry critters...
Man, I know what you all are saying but imagine covering your phone with a damp rag when changing, imma die of laughter if I see that anywhere. I know it's gonna work but it's going to be funny af
Mine did the same thing, it was 5 days old when I saw it the first time. If you insist using your phone and charging it wirelessly disable the fast wireless charging option from the settings and you are going to be good to go, but don't expect the phone to charge that much, maybe 2% in 5min, something like that probably. It will not overheat, tested it myself. Be careful, if it continues to overheat even with fast wireless charging option disabled stop using the charger when using your phone. I have a suspicion I burned my coil like that, it only took 5 or so times where my phone said that it can't continue charging because too hot. I hope that wasn't the case.
I have been a fan of wireless charging for many years since my LG G4,
with the optional, QI charging rear case,
As the F3 lacks QI charging, i have been struggling to find a compatible charging receiver,
after buying 2 incompatible charging receivers, the black type with qi printing in the middle, from a well known UK auction site.
I thought I would try ALI, as i buy bits from there and came across this type in the photo,
and I can confirm it works a treat.
I use my F3 in a flip case and the receiver is still working up to a depth of 5mm.
Buying this QI charging receiver means Less wear and tear on the charge socket
and also helps a bit with water proofing and protects the socket from Dirt & Fluff
Could you link the item you bought from Ali that worked?
LilBlinx said:
Could you link the item you bought from Ali that worked?
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Hi,
I have just updated my post,
Cheers
How much time do you need 2 charge a full battery ?
Hi,
I have just checked Accubattery and a 30% charge (30 to 60% / 1.209 ma) took, 1hr 22m and this only achieved 0.04 battery wear cycles using a Swalle 5w wireless charger,
this is perfect for me
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johnr64 said:
Hi,
I am a low phone user and find that a 60% charge lasts me around 8 hours before I hit 30%.
I use a brilliant program called Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA) , that keeps my phone nicely topped up between 30 & 60%, i have just checked Accubattery and a 30% charge (30 to 60% / 1.209 ma) took, 1hr 22m and this only achieved 0.04 battery wear cycles, this is perfect for me
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You need to read more user feedback lol
It's not recommended to be using it on xiaomi phones.
The chip in charge of charging will eventually die ( get corrupted or whatev ) and the phone becomes permanently bricked.
Aosp rom's experimented with it few months back , then fully removed it soon after reports came in.
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You need to read more user feedback lol
It's not recommended to be using it on xiaomi phones.
The chip in charge of charging will eventually die ( get corrupted or whatev ) and the phone becomes permanently bricked.
Aosp rom's experimented with it few months back , then fully removed it soon after reports came in.
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Hi,
thanks for the heads up, i also read that users were depleting their batteries to 0%, using (ACC) then were unable to recover from a dead phone,
i also read that to recover from this issue was to leave the phone plugged in for a long time or to jump start the phone buy putting a small amount of external charge into their battery,
yes this does mean removing the battery from the phone and injecting a small amount of charge.
I might just buy a spare BM4Y from ALI for around £16 including taxes just in case.
I have two battery charge alarms set to 25% for peace of mind of,
not getting anywhere near 0%
IF I AM INCORRECT THEN I WILL EDIT MY POST,
Keep me informed,
cheers.
johnr64 said:
Hi,
thanks for the heads up, i also read that users were depleting their batteries to 0%, using (ACC) then were unable to recover from a dead phone,
i also read that to recover from this issue was to leave the phone plugged in for a long time or to jump start the phone buy putting a small amount of external charge into their battery,
yes this does mean removing the battery from the phone and injecting a small amount of charge.
I might just buy a spare BM4Y from ALI for around £16 including taxes just in case.
I have two battery charge alarms set to 25% for peace of mind of,
not getting anywhere near 0%
IF I AM INCORRECT THEN I WILL EDIT MY POST,
Keep me informed,
cheers.
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You do you man xd...
Not something I wanna mess with at all , I've experienced plenty amount of times having the phone discharge while plugged in with that app installed.
Even when I go to bed and leave the phone plugged in , I wake up and battery is 40-50% lower than what it was the night before... I had 2/3 nights of wondering did I forget to plug the phone and sleepwalk into plugging it in few minutes before waking up?
It's crazy bad on this phone , If I was to ever use it for something that would be to disable battery charging altogether and power the phone fully from outlet when in use - but that toggle doesn't work either xd
I see no use in it , more trouble than good in using it. This is a really shet phone , one that I don't see myself using for long.
Rstment ^m^ said:
You do you man xd...
Not something I wanna mess with at all , I've experienced plenty amount of times having the phone discharge while plugged in with that app installed.
Even when I go to bed and leave the phone plugged in , I wake up and battery is 40-50% lower than what it was the night before... I had 2/3 nights of wondering did I forget to plug the phone and sleepwalk into plugging it in few minutes before waking up?
It's crazy bad on this phone , If I was to ever use it for something that would be to disable battery charging altogether and power the phone fully from outlet when in use - but that toggle doesn't work either xd
I see no use in it , more trouble than good in using it. This is a really shet phone , one that I don't see myself using for long.
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Thank you for your Update,
i don`t charge my phone overnight,
i will edit my listing in case anyone else faces your issue,
with new android updates, SMART CHARGING might be available for all phones and hopefully the devs can make it compatible with the F3.
Samsung already has this function working on some of their phones,
Cheers
johnr64 said:
Hi,
thanks for the heads up, i also read that users were depleting their batteries to 0%, using (ACC) then were unable to recover from a dead phone,
i also read that to recover from this issue was to leave the phone plugged in for a long time or to jump start the phone buy putting a small amount of external charge into their battery,
yes this does mean removing the battery from the phone and injecting a small amount of charge.
I might just buy a spare BM4Y from ALI for around £16 including taxes just in case.
I have two battery charge alarms set to 25% for peace of mind of,
not getting anywhere near 0%
IF I AM INCORRECT THEN I WILL EDIT MY POST,
Keep me informed,
cheers.
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i agree the charging chip might suffer if u set too many parameters, I personally use a charging limit set to 80% and leave everything else as default that should extend battery health and protect it from overcharging or staying on 100% plugged in, but I turn it off at least once a month and charge it fully.
Thanks for the tip, just received the linked receiver and it works for me as well.
Also tried two others before (generic one with "Type C" printed on it and one from Nillkin), neither worked. After finding this thread, I decided to gave it one last try.
Interesting detail: while trying to get the other two to work, I tried connecting them through a USB-C power tester and... it started to charge.
msylw said:
Thanks for the tip, just received the linked receiver and it works for me as well.
Also tried two others before (generic one with "Type C" printed on it and one from Nillkin), neither worked. After finding this thread, I decided to gave it one last try.
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Hi,
I am glad i could help,
for all the ACCA Doubters, my F3 has been happily charging between 35% & 60% for the last 4 weeks and i have not had any issues with my phone not turning on.
I've been looking for many years for the ultimate battery charging app that restricts my phone from charging to 100%, to save on battery cycles and thus keeping my battery in tip top condition,
I can confirm that ACCA Nailed it.
For those of you that are interested in maintaining your battery,
this is how my F3 is setup,
I use the brilliant Descendant Rom V1921, rooted with Magisk for ACCA,
Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA),
also Accubattery to monitor battery cycles and Battery alarm by Zoran Vujacic, this warns me regarding my battery levels,
both apps are available from the Play store.
I set Battery alarm to warn me when my battery drops below 25% and above 60% i also use Accubattery to monitor my battery health and keep an eye on my charge cycles.
I charge my phone between 35% and 60%, acuubattery reports that i have only used 0.003 cycles, (this lasts me around 8 hours).
REGARDING ACCA
Do not let your phone charge drop to 0%, otherwise you may not be able to charge or turn your phone on, this issue has been reported using other xiaomi phones and roms.
Use ACCA at your own risk,
again i hope this helps someone,
johnr64 said:
Hi,
I am glad i could help,
for all the ACCA Doubters, my F3 has been happily charging between 35% & 60% for the last 4 weeks and i have not had any issues with my phone not turning on.
I've been looking for many years for the ultimate battery charging app that restricts my phone from charging to 100%, to save on battery cycles and thus keeping my battery in tip top condition,
I can confirm that ACCA Nailed it.
For those of you that are interested in maintaining your battery,
this is how my F3 is setup,
I use the brilliant Descendant Rom V1921, rooted with Magisk for ACCA,
Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA),
also Accubattery to monitor battery cycles and Battery alarm by Zoran Vujacic, this warns me regarding my battery levels,
both apps are available from the Play store.
I set Battery alarm to warn me when my battery drops below 25% and above 60% i also use Accubattery to monitor my battery health and keep an eye on my charge cycles.
I charge my phone between 35% and 60%, acuubattery reports that i have only used 0.003 cycles, (this lasts me around 8 hours).
REGARDING ACCA
Do not let your phone charge drop to 0%, otherwise you may not be able to charge or turn your phone on, this issue has been reported using other xiaomi phones and roms.
Use ACCA at your own risk,
again i hope this helps someone,
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What charging switch are you using? And did you able to change voltage and current?
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What charging switch are you using? And did you able to change voltage and current?
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Hi,
I use Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA) as in my previous post, i don`t use Voltage/Current limit functions, i just set the maximum charge limit.
ACCA is a Software only based charging app, it requires Root access for it to work, i have attached some screen shots of ACCA, as you can see it has lots of useful functions.
I have also attached pictures of my slightly modified QI Wireless receiver, i did this by putting aluminium foil around the receiver to dissipate a little bit more heat.
As my phone is in a clam style case and with the warmer weather slowly on its way, anything to help the QI receiver with heat has to be a good thing, especially as the receiver is in close proximity to the F3`s Li-ion battery.
I hope this helps
Bought 2 of them (in case of) from this ali vendor and I can confirm it works fine with the F3, thanks OP
It works at full 1A/5W
EDIT: one of the receiver does not work anymore, tested with different chargers/phones :-/