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My Rant, and I hope Google Reads This

Google, I hope you're reading/listening to this:
It kind of irritates me that I bought this phone for the "Pure Google Experience" only to find out its not really that "True" experience with all these different regional builds.
People are on 4.0.2 for over a month now I believe, yet we Canadian users, as well as many others across the world are still on 4.0.1 and have been duped into believing the "Galaxy Nexus" is a true Google device. Well, it is, but it isn't at the same time. My yakjuux build from what I hear is updated from Samsung, not by you, and that irritates me.
Sure, I can flip over to yakju myself, but really, why should I have to do that??a
I mean is it so hard for Google to do, what the likes of Microsoft has been doing for many, many years? That is make one build, let's call it base yakju, then through the initial install process, ask the user what region/carrier/language/radio he/she has and have the unit download the "region packs" accordingly??
The dreaded Microsoft doesn't sell 15 different "regional versions" of Windows, its the exact same build, but with language packs that are set up after the initial install process.
That way everyone gets an update at the same time, in this case, by you Google not by Samsung, as it is believed is happening with my phone (although unconfirmed because we haven't received an update yet!)
Anyway, there are many that will say you can do it yourself, and while this is true, one shouldn't have to. Nor should we have to wait for updates as a regional build when the "original" yakju builds get updated quickly.
I'm coming from a Galaxy S, and I stated I will never buy a carrier build phone again because of fragmented updates across the world, of which Canada never seemed to get one... I said I'm going pure android. That is why I bought the Nexus.
Unfortunately, its starting to feel like the exact same experience.
Sorry if this bothers someone. That was not my intention.

Why not just flash yakju? You don't even need to unlock the bootloader (or so I've heard).

Oretoise said:
Why not just flash yakju? You don't even need to unlock the bootloader (or so I've heard).
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You've heard wrong.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Oretoise said:
Why not just flash yakju? You don't even need to unlock the bootloader (or so I've heard).
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Its a matter of principle for some people.
And you have to unlock your bootloader. You can relock it after of course.

greeced said:
Google, I hope you're reading/listening to this:
It kind of irritates me that I bought this phone for the "Pure Google Experience" only to find out its not really that "True" experience with all these different regional builds.
People are on 4.0.2 for over a month now I believe, yet we Canadian users, as well as many others across the world are still on 4.0.1 and have been duped into believing the "Galaxy Nexus" is a true Google device. Well, it is, but it isn't at the same time. My yakjuux build from what I hear is updated from Samsung, not by you, and that irritates me.
Sure, I can flip over to yakju myself, but really, why should I have to do that??a
I mean is it so hard for Google to do, what the likes of Microsoft has been doing for many, many years? That is make one build, let's call it base yakju, then through the initial install process, ask the user what region/carrier/language/radio he/she has and have the unit download the "region packs" accordingly??
The dreaded Microsoft doesn't sell 15 different "regional versions" of Windows, its the exact same build, but with language packs that are set up after the initial install process.
That way everyone gets an update at the same time, in this case, by you Google not by Samsung, as it is believed is happening with my phone (although unconfirmed because we haven't received an update yet!)
Anyway, there are many that will say you can do it yourself, and while this is true, one shouldn't have to. Nor should we have to wait for updates as a regional build when the "original" yakju builds get updated quickly.
I'm coming from a Galaxy S, and I stated I will never buy a carrier build phone again because of fragmented updates across the world, of which Canada never seemed to get one... I said I'm going pure android. That is why I bought the Nexus.
Unfortunately, its starting to feel like the exact same experience.
Sorry if this bothers someone. That was not my intention.
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Agreed on all points! Google, sadly, is becoming a an organization that lacks focus in its endeavors.

I also come from a galaxy s and i have a yakju, international gsm, carrier free.
When i first heard that vodafone pt would have galaxy nexus carrier locked for sale, i thought right away that that couldnt be a good thing, so i went and ordered a sim free international version even more certain that what i needed was the one where no carrier touched, only Google. That worked out fine. There was no yakju variants known at the time, october or early november last year.
The move about dropping support on cdma devices was not so good, but thats on the carrier and lte fw.
Edit: re read op, and it seems he has a carrier unlocked phone.
If you wanted to escape regional builds, you should ask yourself why they exist. Different basebands for example, you probably are aware of this since you're from Canada.
I dont care about otas and etas, as long as source is available. Thats why i bought it in the first place.

Yes I can't believe why Google is allowing this. The nexus doesn't seem like a nexus now- it's just a phone that is unlockable.
It is the same case for me in Hong Kong. I finally decided not to flash yakju but to start using ROMs the second week I bought the phone.
Google needs to change this policy. They aren't going to let the nexus get more and more out of hand and less Google! As we Hongkongers like to say, give us back the "Google son"!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

greeced said:
It kind of irritates me that I bought this phone for the "Pure Google Experience" only to find out its not really that "True" experience with all these different regional builds.
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How could there be no regional builds when people in the world don't even speak the same language?
Sorry for my sarcasm, but you get the idea. We have different networks, systems, AC power plugs... the list goes on and on. Just look at what 'X' means in different countries.
But I agree that they can do a lot more to make it easier.

Google has always held the belief that the Nexus line is for developers. It is for the most part a stock platform for which a developer can test their products on. However, Samsung and the carriers have mass marketed the phone as a consumer phone. It really is not and the Nexus brand has changed forever.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Eventually, google/samsung have to please the carriers that are selling the phone, else they won't want to carry it.

how do i know what region my gnex is frmo?

zeekiz said:
Eventually, google/samsung have to please the carriers that are selling the phone, else they won't want to carry it.
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This is true only in the us. The rest of the world has working GSM networks and thus freedom from carrier dictated nonsense.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Oretoise said:
Why not just flash yakju? You don't even need to unlock the bootloader (or so I've heard).
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You're missing the point of his post.
Sent from a yakju GSGN

josteink said:
This is true only in the us. The rest of the world has working GSM networks and thus freedom from carrier dictated nonsense.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
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But then you are looking at the fact that they then have to supply smaller retailers with the handset, which also means they would have a lower scope of user adoption, as well as the cost of additional advertising.
By pleasing selected network providers, it ensure that the handset is in the hands of not just enthusiasts, but also the general user. The handset will have a higher adoption rate due to the higher availability, as well as the network providers will be more proactive in advertising the phone, overall this not only increases profits, but saves money by relying on the front end to advertise to attract users.
Business is business at the end of the day.

HRodMusic said:
how do i know what region my gnex is frmo?
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https://market.android.com/details?id=de.cbruegg.officialupdate

martonikaj said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=de.cbruegg.officialupdate
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wow thank you kind sir!
so i guess im yakju, thats the good one right? does that mean my phone is not canadian?

HRodMusic said:
wow thank you kind sir!
so i guess im yakju, thats the good one right? does that mean my phone is not canadian?
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LOL. Read the app man. If it says "updated by GOOGLE" then you're good.
Its not about being Canadian vs. not. More like 100% stock Google vs. 99% stock Google.

efrant said:
You've heard wrong.
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You do NOT need to unlock boot loader to flash yakju, from personal experience.

martonikaj said:
LOL. Read the app man. If it says "updated by GOOGLE" then you're good.
Its not about being Canadian vs. not. More like 100% stock Google vs. 99% stock Google.
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yea, its just i got my phone off craigslist, ive always wondered were it came from, over seas, or from my canadian neighbors =D
btw whats your speeds like in bellingham?

greeced said:
Google, I hope you're reading/listening to this:
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You're posting on XDA and hope Google reads this?
I'm just happy that we have access to the latest ICS versions (through ROMs and AOSP). If I have to flash them instead of getting OTAs, then so be it. I can live with that.
I am 100% sure we are much better off than those still stuck on Gingerbread, Froyo, Eclair and even Donut. We and the Nexus S crew are still the first to get our hands on ICS, which we've been able to enjoy over the past 4 months whilst everyone else has to wait patiently. We'll also have first dibs on Jellybean too
Is it ideal that we already have version fragmentation on ICS? Not really, but considering the baseline version recommended for mass use hasn't seemed to have surfaced yet, I wouldn't really consider that a problem. Once that's out in the wild, I would expect most people will get OTA'd to the latest version and all will be well.
Regional builds MAY get it slower due to Samsung handling the OTAs, however I think they only did this to offload some of the pressure of single-handedly applying a global update. Even though my Nexus was shipped as yakju, I do hope Sammy pulls their finger out and updates the regional builds as fast as Google will.

is there android 4.0 beta for R800x?

is there a beta of android 4.0 for R800x i here the beta for 4.0 is out in beta now but is there one for the R800x?

No. That's why people are still skeptical that Verizon is even working on it

jacklebott said:
No. That's why people are still skeptical that Verizon is even working on it
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dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????

Snow755 said:
dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
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Again, no... like I just said people don't know about Verizon's progress

Snow755 said:
dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
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How about you wait until the official release for the R800i/a/at is released, then ask Verizon

i can only hope and pray that verizon has it working...i'm not holding my breath though, figure it will be sometime in may before we hear anything from big red

If I am not mistaken, Verizon has pretty much told us to go get bent. They will not be doing any more updates for the r800x.

XperianceIT said:
If I am not mistaken, Verizon has pretty much told us to go get bent. They will not be doing any more updates for the r800x.
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I was at the Verizon store last night and they had 4 xperia plays on display. Had not been in there in months and was surprised to see they still had it........ not saying that due to this they will make the update. But just saying surprised they still offer it as they obviously couldn't give a sh!t about this device (or any of their devices in general)
Sent from my R800x using xda premium

jgregoryj1 said:
I was at the Verizon store last night and they had 4 xperia plays on display. Had not been in there in months and was surprised to see they still had it........ not saying that due to this they will make the update. But just saying surprised they still offer it as they obviously couldn't give a sh!t about this device (or any of their devices in general)
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Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)

ryocoon said:
Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
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I was implying, maybe didnt word it very well, but I was implying they do not give a monkeys butt about their phones unless its shiny and new. I agree with you. I have been with VZ for a year and I am not happy with them. In another year I will jump ship. Also, I rooted my phone and deleted all the Vcast apps, rebooted and now the android market shows up in the games laumcher instead of the Vcast.... hate vcast

ryocoon said:
Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
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Ah, my friend, there is nothing bitter about the truth.

No, but I heard that SE is working on a separate release of 4.0 just for R8800x. Will Verizon roll it out? Hell no.

DubleJayJ said:
No, but I heard that SE is working on a separate release of 4.0 just for R8800x. Will Verizon roll it out? Hell no.
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Couldn't they just finish that up and release a compatible *.ftf file for those interested? Instead of just tossing out all that work?

You all do realize that it is still only February, right? Android 4.0 release date was slated for a "POSSIBLE" release sometime in March or April. How about waiting until the end of April and seeing how that goes for the other models of the Play before you start complaining. In fact, in view of Verizon's slowness to adopt new updates, I wouldn't lose hope until the end of 2012.

If you have the luxury of an unlocked bootloader, I suggest using CM7.2 from FreeXperia. They are currently working on porting 4.0 to the R800 family, and it's going well from what I've heard.

Selim873 said:
Couldn't they just finish that up and release a compatible *.ftf file for those interested? Instead of just tossing out all that work?
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We are talking about Verizon here. They don't approve anything until it's perfect. Don't see why they couldn't release a beta, and then do updates.

Verizon... and perfect releases? Dude, what have you been smokin'? I've had 4 Androids, a Blackberry and I can't even remember how many "feature phones"... and none of them could EVER qualify as perfect, no matter how many updates they released. The Play has been the closest, and it's not perfect by any means.
Sent from my R800x using XDA App

netizenmt said:
Verizon... and perfect releases? Dude, what have you been smokin'? I've had 4 Androids, a Blackberry and I can't even remember how many "feature phones"... and none of them could EVER qualify as perfect, no matter how many updates they released. The Play has been the closest, and it's not perfect by any means.
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I think he means perfect by "VZW stardards" (bloated and neutered to virtually unusable proportions).
Sent from my R800x using xda premium

I've been with Verizon since 2007 & they haven't supported any phone beyond release. They've pissed me off thoroughly with the lack of releases for the Samsung Fascinate (gone due to piss poor performance) & the R800x. I hate this whole dodgy BS that seems to keep perpetuating beyond the normal. Next phone I get will probably be a flagship phone, since I know that it will get huge support from the dev community. This is completely insane & I'm getting pissed off with the general lack of community support (with a few exceptions but not many like the GSM models) for the R800x since VZW has abandoned us as well.

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I've been with Verizon since 2007 & they haven't supported any phone beyond release. They've pissed me off thoroughly with the lack of releases for the Samsung Fascinate (gone due to piss poor performance) & the R800x. I hate this whole dodgy BS that seems to keep perpetuating beyond the normal. Next phone I get will probably be a flagship phone, since I know that it will get huge support from the dev community. This is completely insane & I'm getting pissed off with the general lack of community support (with a few exceptions but not many like the GSM models) for the R800x since VZW has abandoned us as well.
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Remember that the biggest reason that this phone didn't sell well was the lack of support in the first place. That means that there are fewer of our phones in use than a lot of others, and we have few dev's because of that.

T-Mobile Publishes Software Update Tracker Webpage

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/2...le-publishes-software-update-tracker-webpage/
LG G3 is not listed.

Figures... Thanks for the link though

But no LG phones are listed, so it must be unlisted for a reason other than no update coming...

Nexus 6 isn't listed either. I'm pretty sure being omitted from that list does not mean the G3 isn't getting lollipop.

I am not quite sure as to how the LG G3 Lollipop update was left off of the list, but I am happy to report it is in the T-Mobile testing phase. And our testing is going really well. I will reach out to product development and try to get it added to the list. Thank you for pointing this out.
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Being taken care of.

Yeah that's pretty friggin depressing when our phone isn't even listen as a device on the timeline.

pypen said:
Being taken care of.
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Where did this come from?

Jason Syn said:
Yeah that's pretty friggin depressing when our phone isn't even listen as a device on the timeline.
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Agreed

G3 is now listed as 'Manufacturer Development'.

Why on earth is T-Mobile just now in the testing phase when every other carrier has had a release. T -mobile is the new Verizon when it comes to updates, very sad. I expected more from the uncarrier.

Maybe they are trying to fix the roaming data connectivity issues wrt IPv6. See the old threads.

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Maybe they are trying to fix the roaming data connectivity issues wrt IPv6. See the old threads.
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Could be, T-Mobile is the only carrier using IPV6 only on LTE (if I'm not mistaken). They could also have required VoLTE be working, so LG could be taking longer to make sure all this works. Still sucks that it's taking so long.

i had to move from a nexus 5 to a lg g3, what a regression when you see t-mobile slowing such updates!

I've been using a Moto X 2nd Gen. New job has the silly policy of not allowing rooted devices to access our craptastic Lotus Notes e-mail. The G3's KitKat build is unusable without root. Hoping Lollipop is better, otherwise the G3 will be finding a new home.

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i had to move from a nexus 5 to a lg g3, what a regression when you see t-mobile slowing such updates!
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Lol
Sent from my LG-D851

havanahjoe said:
I've been using a Moto X 2nd Gen. New job has the silly policy of not allowing rooted devices to access our craptastic Lotus Notes e-mail. The G3's KitKat build is unusable without root. Hoping Lollipop is better, otherwise the G3 will be finding a new home.
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You could use RootCloak on Lotus Notes so your work wouldn't be able to detect it.
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You could use RootCloak on Lotus Notes so your work wouldn't be able to detect it.
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I tried. Didn't work. They use Airwatch and I couldn't get anything to fool it on the G3 while rooted.
But now that you pointed me to it again, I searched through the RootCloak thread and apparently there is a version of Airwatch that can be fooled. I'll have to try it and see if I can get it working on my G3. That would be awesome.

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I tried. Didn't work. They use Airwatch and I couldn't get anything to fool it on the G3 while rooted.
But now that you pointed me to it again, I searched through the RootCloak thread and apparently there is a version of Airwatch that can be fooled. I'll have to try it and see if I can get it working on my G3. That would be awesome.
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It worked! Now I need a good Lollipop rom. Thank you!!

xlxcrossing said:
Why on earth is T-Mobile just now in the testing phase when every other carrier has had a release. T -mobile is the new Verizon when it comes to updates, very sad. I expected more from the uncarrier.
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The answer is so simple...
There's developmental teams for each region and NOT all of them finish at the same time... The last responses shows how childish some people are. Some devices get finished on other carriers and some don't. T-Mobile isn't always the first and they are not always the last. You can say that with ANY carrier.
If manufacturers really wanted to fix this problem they should take away the carrier options they give them, and then have a single base phone so they only need to code for a single device(iPhone 6, and 6+ as an example they are all exactly the same). Of course device prices would get more expensive then people will complain how expensive they are while blaming the carrier for the prices.

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The answer is so simple...
There's developmental teams for each region and NOT all of them finish at the same time... The last responses shows how childish some people are. Some devices get finished on other carriers and some don't. T-Mobile isn't always the first and they are not always the last. You can say that with ANY carrier.
If manufacturers really wanted to fix this problem they should take away the carrier options they give them, and then have a single base phone so they only need to code for a single device(iPhone 6, and 6+ as an example they are all exactly the same). Of course device prices would get more expensive then people will complain how expensive they are while blaming the carrier for the prices.
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The fact of the matter being LG had 5.0 in hand early to mid Q4 and many carriers were putting finishing touches on their certification by the end of the year. We are now 2 months in to Q1 and every carriers' update status has surpassed ours. When you say there are different development teams for each region I assume you mean domestically which makes perfect sense but isn't that a nice way of saying "we're not ready yet". I'm not one to usually ***** about updates because it makes things less enjoyable in most cases but I'm a little blown away. When I heard LG G3 was one of the first handsets scheduled to get lollipop I thought for sure T-Mobile would shine once more. I just need to modify my definition of "soon" because in T-Mobile's dictionary the definition is a month or more.

Nougat update for Motorola Droid Turbo 2 receives Bluetooth SIG certification

Looks like some good news may really be coming (Nougat)...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nougat_upda...es_bluetooth_sig_certification-news-22523.php
Looks like the Motorola Droid Turbo 2 will soon get Nougat as the Android 7.0 update for the handset (model number XT1585) has been certified by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG).

Now we will finally get root! Hehe

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Now we will finally get root! Hehe
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wh

I've come to terms with the likelihood that this phone will never see root. And if it does, there will be little to no development for custom roms or other goodies. I am to the point where I think the glory days of rooting and having cool software hacks that actually improve the phones are behind us. Now my opinion could be, because my last three phones have been locked down on Verizon, and my Razr M once unlocked never had great builds. The builds it did have had issues due to bootloader changes and my lack of willingness to downgrade the bootloader once other changes were made. As I recall. Still excited to see Nougat coming at least.

romma1 said:
I've come to terms with the likelihood that this phone will never see root. And if it does, there will be little to no development for custom roms or other goodies. I am to the point where I think the glory days of rooting and having cool software hacks that actually improve the phones are behind us. Now my opinion could be, because my last three phones have been locked down on Verizon, and my Razr M once unlocked never had great builds. The builds it did have had issues due to bootloader changes and my lack of willingness to downgrade the bootloader once other changes were made. As I recall. Still excited to see Nougat coming at least.
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Well since Verizon just got rid of 2 year contracts for everyone so no subsidized phones I won't buy another carrier phone. My wife has the pixel xl and loves it. I will be going Google not so much for the unlocked bootloader more for immediate updates. Screw carrier and manufacturer taking forever to update or decide not to update (Droid Maxx 5.1 I'm looking at you).

bigv5150 said:
Well since Verizon just got rid of 2 year contracts for everyone so no subsidized phones I won't buy another carrier phone. My wife has the pixel xl and loves it. I will be going Google not so much for the unlocked bootloader more for immediate updates. Screw carrier and manufacturer taking forever to update or decide not to update (Droid Maxx 5.1 I'm looking at you).
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Yup. Every single phone I have had has been in the Droid Line (HTC Included). No more!! Not after this phone runs dry.

Is this Bogus?
This has to be bogus, right? Why don't I see this thread on XDA?
http://www.android-nougat.tech/2016/11/motorola-droid-turbo-2-7713.html

my2cents said:
This has to be bogus, right? Why don't I see this thread on XDA?
http://www.android-nougat.tech/2016/11/motorola-droid-turbo-2-7713.html
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yeah that's a fake website, you can easily tell because none of the other links works (Home, contact us, etc..)

https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/826802898512314368

xQrzy said:
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For F*** sake.
Delayed until May?
Seriously?
Since Lenovo bought moto it's just going downhill.
Top range phone for £500 and need to wait 6 months for update. This is a joke.

TeddyBeers said:
For F*** sake.
Delayed until May?
Seriously?
Since Lenovo bought moto it's just going downhill.
Top range phone for £500 and need to wait 6 months for update. This is a joke.
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Do You think we will get 7.1.1? LOL, so it is 9 months. This is my first and last Moto.

Xetmes said:
Do You think we will get 7.1.1? LOL, so it is 9 months. This is my first and last Moto.
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Yeah.
Q4 2018

romma1 said:
Looks like some good news may really be coming (Nougat)...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nougat_upda...es_bluetooth_sig_certification-news-22523.php
Looks like the Motorola Droid Turbo 2 will soon get Nougat as the Android 7.0 update for the handset (model number XT1585) has been certified by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG).
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How does the Bluetooth SIG certification affect my phone?
I use Bluetooth with my truck and some earbuds...... I don't see where I would see extra functionality.

Does not affect your phone. It's just a way how info about update leaks. Every phone/update needs to pass certification before is released.
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Question Does Google provide all updates to Pixel phones bought from Google?

Am looking to buy an unlocked Pixel 6 Pro directly from the Google Store. I was wondering if all system and security updates will come to the phone directly from Google instead of from the carrier I choose, eg T-Mobile.

they come from google

skimminstones said:
they come from google
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Good to know. Thanks.

I'm sorry but

In fairness, I "think" Google also do the updates for all the carrier variations as well so either way you're good and will get timely updates no matter which Pixel 6 Pro you get.

Shipoftheline said:
I'm sorry but
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Not sure what was so funny about that. I currently have an unlocked Note 20 Ultra on T-Mobile and hadn't received any security updates from June through September while other carriers had apparently sent updates during that time. My understanding is that Google is more timely in sending out updates to phones they sell vs. carriers, but I just wanted to confirm that before buying since I've never owned a Google branded phone before.

All the updates come from google, and once in a while they will release slightly different versions for carriers around the world, I believe this is only the modem software, i know in the past that verizon also had some bootloader unlocking blocks as well which took longer for people to get root

Yep, Google is boss of the applesauce!

IamSirius said:
Not sure what was so funny about that. I currently have an unlocked Note 20 Ultra on T-Mobile and hadn't received any security updates from June through September while other carriers had apparently sent updates during that time. My understanding is that Google is more timely in sending out updates to phones they sell vs. carriers, but I just wanted to confirm that before buying since I've never owned a Google branded phone before.
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Its a Google made phone and a Google operating system so come on be serous who do you think do the updates, Santa's helpers?

Google releases the updates, even though there were - as far as I remember - two instances in the past when Google released a certain update for certain carriers slightly later than compared to the other ones, even though we are only talking about hours, couple days max.

Shipoftheline said:
Its a Google made phone and a Google operating system so come on be serous who do you think do the updates, Santa's helpers?
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no question is silly if you dont know the answer

Shipoftheline said:
Its a Google made phone and a Google operating system so come on be serous who do you think do the updates, Santa's helpers?
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Like I said, I've never owned a Google phone purchased directly from Google. My current phone is unlocked with Google's OS and the updates come from T-Mobile AFAIK, which has recently been slow in rolling out their updates, so yes, I wanted to be sure about that before I spend my hard earned $900. Don't know why you had to mock my question. Everyone else who responded here was helpful and kind.