Hi everyone, the issue I am facing is that instant messaging apps (Viber, Facebook messenger, etc) do not work on my 5.1. Notifications settings are OK, unrestricted data access is allowed for these apps, so this is not a notification issue. The apps do not receive messages unless I launch them (when I launch the apps, there are no new messages, they start arriving a couple of seconds after launching). I contacted Nokia, but they did not have a clue... I did everything they asked for (factory reset, etc.), nothing helped.
Does anyone else have similar issues? Does anyone have any idea what the solution might be?
So it's been reported before that Nokia/HMD is the worst for how aggressively they limit background app usage. This can't be fixed in the current stock ROM but Nokia might help us out with Pie (if it ever materialises).
zondajag said:
So it's been reported before that Nokia/HMD is the worst for how aggressively they limit background app usage. This can't be fixed in the current stock ROM but Nokia might help us out with Pie (if it ever materialises).
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Thanks. It seems that the 5.1 was my last Nokia.
The Android One project is a bit of a farce given the update cycle is so delayed. It's good to have the security of assured updates, but only providing them when the hardware is no longer relevant seems a waste. Also it's possibly the Mediatek chipset to blame, but this phone has not had a great deal of interest on XDA, which could also be in part due to the Android One project making custom ROMs a little less relevent.
You can fix it yourself by uninstalling com.evenwell.emm app from user space. That crappy service which HMD bundles into firmware "improves" battery life by killing all non-system background apps.
qwertysmerty said:
You can fix it yourself by uninstalling com.evenwell.emm app from user space. That crappy service which HMD bundles into firmware "improves" battery life by killing all non-system background apps.
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how to unistall? with adb?
noki2 said:
how to unistall? with adb?
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yes via adb:
adb shell
pm uninstall --user 0 com.evenwell.emm
qwertysmerty said:
yes via adb:
adb shell
pm uninstall --user 0 com.evenwell.emm
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Not working. They are no apps like this..
Adb shell says, [not install for 0]
TANVIR TUSAR said:
Not working. They are no apps like this..
Adb shell says, [not install for 0]
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Have you upgraded to Pie? In Pie it's named com.evenwell.powersaving.g3
qwertysmerty said:
Have you upgraded to Pie? In Pie it's named com.evenwell.powersaving.g3
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Yes... I found it. I thing about this name but then i thought it might be important app. Thanx
qwertysmerty said:
Have you upgraded to Pie? In Pie it's named com.evenwell.powersaving.g3
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Should i delete com.evenwell.powersaving.g3.overly.base
??
Yes, you can delete overlay as well.
Yuo may need to uninstall these packages as well
com.evenwell.PowerMonitor
com.evenwell.PowerMonitor.overlay.base
I noticed that my 1Password service was still being killed after uninstalling com.evenwell.powersaving.g3.* packages. After removing PowerMonitor stuff everything back to normal and Nokia 5.1 Pie became usable again
I have the 2gb variant and its no use. Its a crappy phone... No notification what so ever even after disable/uninstall the evenwell apps and battery saver etc apps. Its no use as doon you start browsing only Google apps remains active. All other are killed. Not a android one phone. Its a stupid phone!!!
I believe I have found the definitive answer for this, after much googling around.
I have a 5.1 Plus (TA-1108) and tried the ADB disabling of evenwell apps and others but it still would stop services after restarts. I eventually found a post on the "Don't kill my phone" Github which alluded to the hidden setting of the "Duraspeed" task killer that is bundled.
The dontkillmyphone website says you can ADB in and change this hidden setting to 0, but this doesn't persist after a restart. The value will still be a 0, but it seems this task killer only reads the value after it detects a change in the value (bizarre, I know). So to disable this Duraspeed thing, you need to change the hidden setting value from something else to a 0 on each boot.
Luckliy, this is very easily done by Tasker/Macrodroid/etc. Use this post:
https://github.com/urbandroid-team/dont-kill-my-app/issues/57#issuecomment-484000884
but the short of it is to enable WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS to tasker (by running this:
adb shell pm grant net.dinglisch.android.taskerm android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
for tasker, google for your app of choice)
and then set a task that runs on boot to change a "Custom Setting", Global type, setting name setting.duraspeed.enabled to a value (doesn't matter, I use 2) and then immediately after change the same setting to 0.
I have this set up on my phone and my wifes phone and ever since they have been perfect with background services (my Garmin watch, lastpass, etc) as well as any email/notification apps.
TANVIR TUSAR said:
Should i delete com.evenwell.powersaving.g3.overly.base
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Lol, I uninstalled all evenwell apps, it didn't make any difference
qwertysmerty said:
Yuo may need to uninstall these packages as well
com.evenwell.PowerMonitor
com.evenwell.PowerMonitor.overlay.base
I noticed that my 1Password service was still being killed after uninstalling com.evenwell.powersaving.g3.* packages. After removing PowerMonitor stuff everything back to normal and Nokia 5.1 Pie became usable again
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How to start adb usb debugging on this phone?
I have adb sdk installed, every other phone but Nokia 5.1 is visible when I type adb devices.
Should I use adb on Linux or Windows, install any special drivers from Nokia?
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Hi,
I've been on 5.0.1 since yesterday. Didn't have any issues with battery before, and now it seems even better.
However, wishing to be fully optimized, I see on the new battery usage option, that besides the 'screen', next in line of battery consumption are 'UP' and 'Wellness'.
Any way to get rid of them, or at least stop them from running?
Thanks
Hi, you can disconnected UP from receiving data, but not remove the program on the watch, as fare as I know.
WELNESS I have the same problem. I want get rid of that too?
What about using:
Code:
adb shell pm disable [I]package_name[/I]
I found conflicting information on whether root is required for that. And of course we'd have to figure out what the package names are.
CSX321 said:
What about using:
Code:
adb shell pm disable [I]package_name[/I]
I found conflicting information on whether root is required for that. And of course we'd have to figure out what the package names are.
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Easiest way i can think of to get the package names would be to run "adb shell top", then scan through the processes until you see the one that your looking for. if they're not listed, just open them on the watch and they should pop up
Well, it looks like the package manager (pm) does require root.
Edit...Oh, and you can get the package names with:
adb shell pm list packages
I was able to uninstall the Amazon app with a simple:
adb uninstall com.amazon.mShop.android
since that was just installed by the Amazon app on the phone.
But trying:
adb uninstall com.jawbone.upopen
results in:
Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]
I'm sure we'll get this thing rooted soon, and then it should be an easy matter to disable or delete any of the pre-installed apps.
Thanks for the responders above, looks like we'll have to wait
I'd like to get rid of this garbage too. Let me know if you figure it out...
Would also like to get rid of these, I do not use my watch for fitness related stuff and the Wellness app just doesn't even work right. Don't even get me started on the stress level -_-
Disable apps?
So if we can't delete them because we need root, can we disable them? Like using the disable function in application manager...would that work through ADB without root?
I'm in the same boat..can't stand having 3 fitness apps installed (fit, wellness, up) and I do not use my watch with ANY of them! Between battery and overall responsiveness, you can't tell me that having all 3 of these running don't have any effect.
It would be awesome if we can figure out how to uninstall unwanted wear-only apps. Seems like a first generation kind of flaw that'll only get better.
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Hey gang, i have been working my way slowly through the adb/fastboot tools debloat list on the N8P and here is a list of the apps that i have uninstalled so far. My device is rock solid with no issues, and i'm seeing around 13 hours of sot so far.
heres the list, i'll update every once in a while as i slowly uninstall more.
Analytics
Android accessibility suite
app vault
browser
calendar
compass
Catchlog
digital wellbeing
downloads
fm radio
facebook
feedback
freeform
games
gmail
google app
google duo
google lens
joyose
msa
market feedback agent
mi credit
mi drop
mi pay
mi video
mi wallpaper
miui daemon
music
notes
PAI
Partner bookmarks
partner netflix activation
quick apps
quick ball
recorder
scanner
translation service
weather
WMService
yellow pages
Hi,
thanks for the information
what do you have for a Rom and how do you uninstall the stuff ....
A little guide would be great
mub19 said:
Hi,
thanks for the information
what do you have for a Rom and how do you uninstall the stuff ....
A little guide would be great
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I second this.
no special rom, just used adb/fastboot tools to uninstall - can't put links here for some reason, but just google it - its on github. Super simple, graphical interface. If you uninstall, it saves the .apk's so you can reinstall if necessary
The tool is called Saki tools
The tool that I always use is called saki tools, available on github. I'm sure he uses this also. It's great.
Just enable usb debugging on phone, open the application on pc and allow usb debugging, delete whatever you want.
Hopefully this clears up some confusion.
https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools/releases/tag/6.8.1
Not called Saki tools, its made by a developer names SZaki - its called Xiaomi ADB Fastboot Tools. but yes, thats the link. (why can i not post links?)
peoeope said:
The tool that I always use is called saki tools, available on github. I'm sure he uses this also. It's great.
Just enable usb debugging on phone, open the application on pc and allow usb debugging, delete whatever you want.
Hopefully this clears up some confusion.
https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools/releases/tag/6.8.1
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When i start the tool the device connects but when i select some programs and press uninstall the Device always disconnects and Stats says ERROR: Device could not be loaded!
Any ideas? USB debugging is enabeled i tried different USB Ports 2.0 3.0...
THX
updated the list with a few new ones i have recently killed off -
if anyone try's something other than listed - let us know.
roox911 said:
updated the list with a few new ones i have recently killed off -
if anyone try's something other than listed - let us know.
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For which version of miui?
Could you make as it.bat files for one click usage, yeah Miui also tend to change Apk names randomly each version update so you need to make different [.bat] for each miui versions. I did has my own personal list. Personally tested but outdated for already sold whyred.
You could make one click with options wizard
[remove extra Google app]
[total remove Google (Unsafe, for some one who want reinstall to microg/bitsGapps/picoGAPPs, make sure you already logout Google and has other keyboard installed) ]
[remove extra miui]
[total remove miui apps(make sure you got another launcher and logout miui account)]
[remove all non miui/Google bloats (Ie. Fb, preinstalled game)]
have you downloaded the program from github? Its a fully gui - click and delete. its for all current versions of miui as far as the developer has said. personally i'm on 10.4.4.0. The list that it gives you to delete are considered "safe to delete apps" - worst case i guess you soft brick.and need to do a factory reset. The app also leaves all the .apks for you to reinstall should something misbehave.
ScarletVeil said:
For which version of miui?
Could you make as it.bat files for one click usage, yeah Miui also tend to change Apk names randomly each version update so you need to make different [.bat] for each miui versions. I did has my own personal list. Personally tested but outdated for already sold whyred.
You could make one click with options wizard
[remove extra Google app]
[total remove Google (Unsafe, for some one who want reinstall to microg/bitsGapps/picoGAPPs, make sure you already logout Google and has other keyboard installed) ]
[remove extra miui]
[total remove miui apps(make sure you got another launcher and logout miui account)]
[remove all non miui/Google bloats (Ie. Fb, preinstalled game)]
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roox911 said:
have you downloaded the program from github? Its a fully gui - click and delete. its for all current versions of miui as far as the developer has said. personally i'm on 10.4.4.0. The list that it gives you to delete are considered "safe to delete apps" - worst case i guess you soft brick.and need to do a factory reset. The app also leaves all the .apks for you to reinstall should something misbehave.
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Yes, I already know for months already about it but her list is too simple and disabling function is buggy, disabled app still asking for update. Once we update it by mistake, or just changing region, they"ll back.
ScarletVeil said:
Yes, I already know for months already about it but her list is too simple and disabling function is buggy, disabled app still asking for update. Once we update it by mistake, or just changing region, they"ll back.
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I'm not sure what you are talking about - i have uninstalled everything on the list here - get no errors/bugs/requests for updates. They are gone and the phone is faster/safer and the battery lasts longer.
deleted
I just debloated successfully and it's all working fine. But i'm still left with the same amount of free space as i had before i uninstalled any of the apps i did.... Makes me wonder if Szaki tools really uninstalls the apps or somehow disables them without removing it from the device... Kinda suspicious to be honest...
PS: Also, i want to uninstall this really unnecessary download handler that comes with this phone but i don't see an option to do so?
Helhound0 said:
PS: Also, i want to uninstall this really unnecessary download handler that comes with this phone but i don't see an option to do so?
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This Is why I said the list is not suitable for me. It's good for newbie but people with more experience need POWERUSER MODE to remove more bloats, like fully uninstall ALL MIUI related to make it as close as stock for example. Yes, I can use adb manually or use debloat module in magisk, but tools to make it easier will be very welcomed
ScarletVeil said:
This I'd why I said the list is not suitable for me. It's good for newbie but people with more experience need POWERUSER MODE to remove more bloats, like fully uninstall ALL MIUI related to make it as close as stock for example
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I agree. Someone already mentioned that at git too but Szaki's reply was to use "Add Apps" from the "App Manager" menu and update the list with what you want to remove. Apparently all the tabs use the same list...
Helhound0 said:
I just debloated successfully and it's all working fine. But i'm still left with the same amount of free space as i had before i uninstalled any of the apps i did.... Makes me wonder if Szaki tools really uninstalls the apps or somehow disables them without removing it from the device... Kinda suspicious to be honest...
PS: Also, i want to uninstall this really unnecessary download handler that comes with this phone but i don't see an option to do so?
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it leaves the apks on your phone so you can reinstall if necessary, so they are still going to take up some space.
There is ALSO a disable tab you can use, which does exactly that.
Are you 100% sure you didn't gain a small amount of space? I gained a bit after deleting the ones on my list.
ScarletVeil said:
This Is why I said the list is not suitable for me. It's good for newbie but people with more experience need POWERUSER MODE to remove more bloats, like fully uninstall ALL MIUI related to make it as close as stock for example. Yes, I can use adb manually or use debloat module in magisk, but tools to make it easier will be very welcomed
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he has stated multiple times that the list to intentionally small to avoid the huge amount of dependencies that miui bakes into their apps and OS. each phone has different dependencies, and sometimes what works on one phone, soft bricks another. SO... there is an option to add apps (at your discretion) but even the safe list is not promised to not soft brick a phone (some phones the list is fully safe, others, maybe it trips a dependency and breaks something
If you want, start adding apps from outside the list and respond with your findings That would be the POWERUSER thing to do, would it not?.
roox911 said:
it leaves the apks on your phone so you can reinstall if necessary, so they are still going to take up some space.
There is ALSO a disable tab you can use, which does exactly that.
Are you 100% sure you didn't gain a small amount of space? I gained a bit after deleting the ones on my list.
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Absolutely not... I had 103 GB when i started.. 103GB when i was done with the debloating ... :/
roox911 said:
Hey gang, i have been working my way slowly through the adb/fastboot tools debloat list on the N8P and here is a list of the apps that i have uninstalled so far. My device is rock solid with no issues, and i'm seeing around 13 hours of sot so far.
heres the list, i'll update every once in a while as i slowly uninstall more.
Analytics
Android accessibility suite
app vault
browser
calendar
compass
Catchlog
digital wellbeing
downloads
fm radio
facebook
feedback
freeform
games
gmail
google app
google duo
google lens
joyose
msa
market feedback agent
mi credit
mi drop
mi pay
mi video
mi wallpaper
miui daemon
music
notes
PAI
Partner bookmarks
partner netflix activation
quick apps
quick ball
recorder
scanner
translation service
weather
yellow pages
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Thanks, please have a look at this excellent post about debloating.
Though this is for redmi note 2, the list of apps you can safely remove is still quite actual.
Even though my phone is rooted, I couldn't remove system apk's and folders.
I've done so manually through twrp after first safely freezing apps by titanium to observe.
Root folder space is now at 70 %, which used to be over 90 if I remember well. :fingers-crossed:
I have a question can debloating ROM actually make drain higher on Xiaomi.eu.
I deleted apps like MiCloud, soter service, miuidaemon, mipay etc...
No, exactly the contrary
After debloat Xiaomi.eu, the phone became consumption less battery and of less ram too. and the temperature decreases a lot
this is my list of debloating
CRNO said:
No, exactly the contrary
After debloat Xiaomi.eu, the phone became consumption less battery and of less ram too. and the temperature decreases a lot
this is my list of debloating
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You removed find device and didn't get bootloop?
I removed apps like miuidaemon,soter service, MiCloud,mipay,midrive,some Google apps...
jirka607 said:
You removed find device and didn't get bootloop?
I removed apps like miuidaemon,soter service, MiCloud,mipay,midrive,some Google apps...
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No. and my phone worked like feather ^^
notice when i removed security i lost jobs features of AI image engine . so keep it alive
CRNO said:
No. and my phone worked like feather ^^
notice when i removed security i lost jobs features of AI image engine . so keep it alive
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I found that removing soter and cloud disables certificate updates...but if that's ever needed you can just restore them.
Also...I uninstalled almost everything except cleaner I find it useful sometimes...otherwise all mi stuff is gone and lots of Google stuff also...
Removing partial collections can lead to increased drain. If two apps work together and one is missing, this could cause the other to run excessively trying to connect to the now missing other app.
The best solution is to make sure you disable all of the parts if you are going to disable the main app, such as all of the backend packages for Facebook.
Note: I don't have this phone, but saw the question in NEW POSTS and have seen this happen before.
twistedumbrella said:
Removing partial collections can lead to increased drain. If two apps work together and one is missing, this could cause the other to run excessively trying to connect to the now missing other app.
The best solution is to make sure you disable all of the parts if you are going to disable the main app, such as all of the backend packages for Facebook.
Note: I don't have this phone, but saw the question in NEW POSTS and have seen this happen before.
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But that would show up as system drain or the drain for the present part of app collection
jirka607 said:
But that would show up as system drain or the drain for the present part of app collection
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Depends on what had the dependency. If it was a user app, it will show up as the app. If it was part of the framework or system, then it would show up as the system.
Pro tip! If you want 120 Hz everywhere, disable "Battery & Performance" with the Xiaomi Debloater Tool (Xiaomi ADB Fastboot Tools). That app is responsible for limiting the screen to 60 Hz in certain apps, like the Recents-Menu, YouTube, Google Photos etc...
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Depends on what had the dependency. If it was a user app, it will show up as the app. If it was part of the framework or system, then it would show up as the system.
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Ok so nothing like that is showing
Screenshot attached...so I guess everything is fine...
jirka607 said:
Ok so nothing like that is showing
Screenshot attached...so I guess everything is fine...
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I guess I mistook your original post to meant you had increased drain. Alright then, cheers.
twistedumbrella said:
I guess I mistook your original post to meant you had increased drain. Alright then, cheers.
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Nah I was just curious asking... Since idk if it can happen after I debloated... But I guess I simply won't Squeeze more battery from MIUI
jirka607 said:
I have a question can debloating ROM actually make drain higher on Xiaomi.eu.
I deleted apps like MiCloud, soter service, miuidaemon, mipay etc...
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how you removed such apps as this device has dynamic partitions so i am afraid of bootloop?
djnim said:
how you removed such apps as this device has dynamic partitions so i am afraid of bootloop?
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There's a tool called "Xiaomi ADB Fastboot Tools" which can uninstall system apps, and some other features. I think you can uninstall all system apps listed in that program, because it hides the important system apps.
Hey guys has anyone used "ADB AppControl" to debloat app/programs on the Fold 4 yet or even tried this link with the lists they name to debloat?
https://www.getdroidtips.com/uninstall-bloatware-samsung-z-flip-4-z-fold-4/#Samsung-Galaxy-Z-Flip-4-Galaxy-Z-Fold-4-Device-Overview
I've used ADB Control App, no issues.
I'm using Package Disabler, used to be in the app store but now it's cloud based. Used it on my Note 10, Note 20 and have just started to debloat the Fold 4 with no issues. Just have to be careful what you select as it may have something to do with something you use. Fairly inexpensive and works. Also don't need a PC so you can disable on the fly.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Same, used adb control and debolted the minute i got the fold 4 lol. Feels so snappy and clean
eswar539 said:
Same, used adb control and debolted the minute i got the fold 4 lol. Feels so snappy and clean
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May I know what are the packages that you uninstall pls? Thanks!
iichigoz said:
May I know what are the packages that you uninstall pls? Thanks!
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com.samsung.android.app.settings.bixby
com.samsung.systemui.bixby2
com.samsung.android.bixby.service
com.samsung.android.bixby.agent
com.samsung.android.bixbyvision.framework
com.samsung.android.bixby.wakeup
com.samsung.android.app.settings.bixby
com.samsung.android.app.spage
com.facebook.services
com.facebook.system
com.facebook.appmanager
de.axelspringer.yana.zeropage
Is it safe to uninstall or disable android auto?
sguerra923 said:
Is it safe to uninstall or disable android auto?
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Better disable it
iichigoz said:
May I know what are the packages that you uninstall pls? Thanks!
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Plus anything else u might not want like spen packages, dex, native youtube etc
I've debloated quite a few with no issues at all. Here's my lists.
ggrant3876 said:
I'm using Package Disabler, used to be in the app store but now it's cloud based. Used it on my Note 10, Note 20 and have just started to debloat the Fold 4 with no issues. Just have to be careful what you select as it may have something to do with something you use. Fairly inexpensive and works. Also don't need a PC so you can disable on the fly.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
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Hi, this website isn't opening. Is there a place from where i can download this app? Thanks!
I'd recommend ADBAppControl. It's free for all your devices, no need to purchase again every time you buy a new device.
ramadugu said:
Hi, this website isn't opening. Is there a place from where i can download this app? Thanks!
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I don't believe there is. I always have to use my PC and transfer to the phone. Just tried again on my PC and the site might be down for maintenance, there's a separate DL site and it's not responding either. I'll email them and see if I get a reply.
TechSilver13 said:
I'd recommend ADBAppControl. It's free for all your devices, no need to purchase again every time you buy a new device.
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Thank you, I used the this app on my windows 10 machine and was able to delete using that app.
I use Icebox, disabled (not uninstalled though) around 100 apps, works a treat!
Been using ADB App Control for my least 3 Samsung phones, Fold 4, Flip 3 and S10+ to freeze apps. Never had any issues, and the extended (paid) version is worth the money, better than some app on the Google Play that needs to rebuy after a major
software version update.
ramadugu said:
Thank you, I used the this app on my windows 10 machine and was able to delete using that app.
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The site is back live again. The only problem with the other app touted here, ADP App Control is that you can't disable on the fly..................you need a PC to make it work.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Just used this to debloat my Fold 4. Thanks for the recommendations. Definitely feels snappier.
Just to help others:
ADB AppControl
Official website of the ADB AppControl application. Free Download. Latest release. The ultimate applications manager and debloat tool for Android devices.
adbappcontrol.com
ADB AppControl - FREE
I highly recommend ADB AppControl, or any other PC method of disabling bloatware on your phone.
Reason being, if you happen to disable something critical for the phone to operate like normal, like what I did...., then you still have a chance to revert your changes, and avoid having to reset your phone. If I had made the same mistake using an app on my phone to disable bloat, I would have been forced to factory reset!
xT29c said:
I highly recommend ADB AppControl, or any other PC method of disabling bloatware on your phone.
Reason being, if you happen to disable something critical for the phone to operate like normal, like what I did...., then you still have a chance to revert your changes, and avoid having to reset your phone. If I had made the same mistake using an app on my phone to disable bloat, I would have been forced to factory reset!
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I respectfully disagree, with the app you can re-enable immediately and not have to wait until you get home to your PC. I have disabled a system I shouldn't and was able to fix it on the fly without a PC or a factory data reset. I have no issues with adb app control but I don't want to have to rely on a PC when I'm away from home. I am proficient in using adb and even that can be reversed without FDR!
Hi, I started using adb app control and I disabled 38 processes.
I m pretty happy with this useful app but I feel I can go much deeper...
I would love to remove much more stuff (if possible).
I used a list in the a20thread, but many processes /apps are different or missing from a52s.
So anyone could please me share here or privately the full list of safe disabling?
I need to keep Facebook Bixby routine and vocal assistant.
For the rest I can quit almost everything useless.
It would be great to find also the top 10-20 app/processes that drains battery between them.
Thank you for the help! ❤
There is an apk it can shows every system apks what is triggering , boot , wireless , any actions they do . Not every apk drain battery so much . In general Google services are hungry for energy and you can not dispense of them . I disable for example Google search , Google Assistant , Google Pay , Duo , Hangouts and Calendar . Maps I need always . Also some launchers drain battery . Regarding Facebook Bixby routine and vocal assistant they are battery eating , very much . Most of them have some tracking activity which are awake or they trigger awakening most of time . So don't stop small and insignifiant apks , focus only on the those few which affect your battery life . Disabling them I extend battery at least 25....30% daily . Better results can be done with a routed device , but root for phone today became a lttle bit tricky .
Also battery can be increased choosing some correct settings of system behaviour . A11 and A12 have a lot of settings for wireless , security , data , accesibility and so on which if they are active can drain also battery . Not less important is screen refresh rate or SOT , it is known more activity on phone when display is lit can drain at least 80% of battery . That can be tested only by battery drain over night when battery percentage drops down 1...2% or less . 2% is quite much...
Oops , I forgot , many users keep for nothing , all the time , Data , Wireless , Bluetooth , Hotspot and Location active . That's a big mistake that loose battery backup . Keep them only you need
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There is an apk it can shows every system apks what is triggering , boot , wireless , any actions they do . Not every apk drain battery so much . In general Google services are hungry for energy and you can not dispense of them . I disable for example Google search , Google Assistant , Google Pay , Duo , Hangouts and Calendar . Maps I need always . Also some launchers drain battery . Regarding Facebook Bixby routine and vocal assistant they are battery eating , very much . Most of them have some tracking activity which are awake or they trigger awakening most of time . So don't stop small and insignifiant apks , focus only on the those few which affect your battery life . Disabling them I extend battery at least 25....30% daily . Better results can be done with a routed device , but root for phone today became a lttle bit tricky .
Also battery can be increased choosing some correct settings of system behaviour . A11 and A12 have a lot of settings for wireless , security , data , accesibility and so on which if they are active can drain also battery . Not less important is screen refresh rate or SOT , it is known more activity on phone when display is lit can drain at least 80% of battery . That can be tested only by battery drain over night when battery percentage drops down 1...2% or less . 2% is quite much...
Oops , I forgot , many users keep for nothing , all the time , Data , Wireless , Bluetooth , Hotspot and Location active . That's a big mistake that loose battery backup . Keep them only you need
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Hi, thank you for your help.
Which is this apk that shows drains?
I almost follow all your suggestions.
I didn't get how can I understand if SOT is good or not, which app can let me understand that and, if I found problems, how can I improve it?
Then, I agree to disable the bigger drain processes, but some for me are important for working, such Facebook.
For this reason, seeing a lot of fb processes, I would like to know if I can disable some of them without having issues.
Then, Bixby routines it drains, fine, but it saves you a lot of battery and time (auto enable /disable GPS/ night sounds for example).
About Google and Samsung, i don't care about them, apart maps, calendar and drive.
Considering all these details, which processes do you suggest me to disable (mostly about Samsung) ?
I don't know if you are using a debloating tool, and if you can tell me the exact process name.
Thanks
P. S.
I Just read on Quora a guy that said that Google assistant doesn't consume much, it consume more Bluetooth. Could be true?
Is hard to find a clear answer on the net.
" My Android Tools Pro " , it's a very interesting apk . I used it since Androia 5...6 . Compare behaviour between ordinary apk and every Google services .
You don't need to trust me , trust only yourself doing some tests with your phone . Observe draining over night .
In the apk provided you have " Service ' , Broadcast receiver " , ' Activity ' and " Content provider "
On the other hand , Samsung is well known has double apps with same purpose like Google . I don't understand why is this . More than that Samsung has also a relaxed anti-hibernate background activity apks versus chinese brands like Huawei , Oppo , Xiaomi , OnePus etc which stop some times aggressively non-important apks
I just saw that is for rooted phones but I don't have it..
For this reason I wait for someone that can help me with a full /partial list of all debloatable processes.
Thanks
GitHub - 0x192/universal-android-debloater: Cross-platform GUI written in Rust using ADB to debloat non-rooted android devices. Improve your privacy, the security and battery life of your device.
Cross-platform GUI written in Rust using ADB to debloat non-rooted android devices. Improve your privacy, the security and battery life of your device. - GitHub - 0x192/universal-android-debloater:...
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Use this. it only shows safe to uninstall apps. and if you click the app it explains what it is.
met4ller said:
I just saw that is for rooted phones but I don't have it..
For this reason I wait for someone that can help me with a full /partial list of all debloatable processes.
Thanks
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It is for rooted phone only to choose any actions . But if you install it you'll see the root and subroutines of any apk and/or services you have on phone . That I consider important ! I don't used it as well cause non-rooted phone .
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GitHub - 0x192/universal-android-debloater: Cross-platform GUI written in Rust using ADB to debloat non-rooted android devices. Improve your privacy, the security and battery life of your device.
Cross-platform GUI written in Rust using ADB to debloat non-rooted android devices. Improve your privacy, the security and battery life of your device. - GitHub - 0x192/universal-android-debloater:...
github.com
Use this. it only shows safe to uninstall apps. and if you click the app it explains what it is.
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Another guy told me about this program, but I already had app control and a list of all safe processes, the only con is that there's also other missing processes because it's made for another phone.
So, I made my own list based on it, I would love to add something more (if possibile and I m not missing anything).
Can you suggest me what I can remove more on my a52s?
I only listed the final words of the process to simplify with different countries app names
Thanks!
I used this:
[Somewhat DISCONTINUED [Script] Advanced rootless debloater for Samsung phones (and Tablets)
JBNCK One UI Experience - a customized rootless debloater for Samsung phones NOTE THAT THIS IS A PRE-RELEASE!!! Not every feature works! # The script is written in python so you need to have python installed (most linux distros come with it...
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And removed/disabled a few more manually via ADB Shell (by seeing the app name thru the Package Name Viewer 2.0 App).
Here is my list (I used Universal Android Debloater):
com.android.chrome
com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks
com.diotek.sec.lookup.dictionary
com.facebook.appmanager
com.facebook.services
com.facebook.system
com.google.android.apps.messaging
com.google.android.apps.tachyon
com.google.ar.core
com.google.audio.hearing.visualization.accessibility.scribe
com.microsoft.appmanager
com.microsoft.skydrive
com.samsung.android.accessibility.talkback
com.samsung.android.app.camera.sticker.facearavatar.preload
com.samsung.android.app.reminder
com.samsung.android.app.sharelive
com.samsung.android.app.spage
com.samsung.android.app.watchmanagerstub
com.samsung.android.ardrawing
com.samsung.android.aremoji
com.samsung.android.aremojieditor
com.samsung.android.arzone
com.samsung.android.aware.service
com.samsung.android.bixby.agent
com.samsung.android.bixby.service
com.samsung.android.bixby.wakeup
com.samsung.android.bixbyvision.framework
com.samsung.android.fast
com.samsung.android.forest
com.samsung.android.game.gamehome
com.samsung.android.game.gametools
com.samsung.android.kidsinstaller
com.samsung.android.livestickers
com.samsung.android.mateagent
com.samsung.android.mdx
com.samsung.android.service.health
com.samsung.android.smartswitchassistant
com.samsung.android.stickercenter
com.samsung.android.themestore
com.samsung.android.visionintelligence
com.sec.android.app.chromecustomizations
com.sec.android.app.soundalive
com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent
com.sec.android.mimage.avatarstickers
de.axelspringer.yana.zeropage
Some of these apps you might be using, so do your research before uninstalling.
@sando99 thanks, is it for a52s?
adb app control can save the list of debloated processes, so I can restore it with one click instead than one by one with new phone?
I ll change it soon for a speaker problem, it rasps.
I fixed it three times with a sound, but it keep happen the problem.
Probably is a hardware problem, but could I accidentally disabled a sound process that can distort audio? I think I disabled only the safe ones, anyway my list is in this post, if there's something wrong and someone can check /find it, would be awesome!
It happens both with speaker and normal call speaker.
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@sando99 thanks, is it for a52s?
adb app control can save the list of debloated processes, so I can restore it with one click instead than one by one with new phone?
I ll change it soon for a speaker problem, it rasps.
I fixed it three times with a sound, but it keep happen the problem.
Probably is a hardware problem, but could I accidentally disabled a sound process that can distort audio? I think I disabled only the safe ones, anyway my list is in this post, if there's something wrong and someone can check /find it, would be awesome!
It happens both with speaker and normal call speaker.
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It's for A52s and yes, UADB will save the list of uninstalled/disabled apps.
Here is my list. 141 apps. includes most off google apps and some Samsung apps.
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Here is my list. 141 apps. includes most off google apps and some Samsung apps.
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Wow, 141 apps!! Are all these safe to remove?
And, most important, is true that majority of these app/processes doesn't drain battery because the true consuming processes are few/less?
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It's for A52s and yes, UADB will save the list of uninstalled/disabled apps.
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Cool, do you know how to backup my debloated list and how to restore it?
Thanks
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Wow, 141 apps!! Are all these safe to remove?
And, most important, is true that majority of these app/processes doesn't drain battery because the true consuming processes are few/less?
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Yes they are all safe to remove but you can loose some function you are using which i dont use like Bixby, Google assistant Samsung Pay etc. i disbled all google apps exept Maps, Play store, play services and translate. İ disabled most samsung apps that i dont use including Samsung store. i dont know if most of these processes consume any battery, i disable evrything that is safe to disable and i dont need.
You can use the Universal Android Debloader. by default it shows onlt app that are safe to remove and if you click on the app it explains what it is.
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Yes they are all safe to remove but you can loose some function you are using which i dont use like Bixby, Google assistant Samsung Pay etc. i disbled all google apps exept Maps, Play store, play services and translate. İ disabled most samsung apps that i dont use including Samsung store. i dont know if most of these processes consume any battery, i disable evrything that is safe to disable and i dont need.
You can use the Universal Android Debloader. by default it shows onlt app that are safe to remove and if you click on the app it explains what it is.
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Fine, I still have some questions.
I use maps but I disabled it (from phone setting), because its not really a notification map (I use it only while driving or checking the path), so why you didn't the same?
Because I use Bixby routines/cloud/Samsung store, should I avoid removing any process in your list?
Why did you stopped Samsung store? There are important updates sometimes..
Lastly, do you know how to backup my debloated list and how to restore it with uad?
Thx
This is the debloat list I use. It is focused mainly on Samsung apps that I don't use. I did not debloat Google apps such as Meet, Chrome, Google Messages etc since we can just disable those apps. The main culprit is Samsung which doesn't let you disable most of their own apps. I understand a lot of people probably use their Quick Share, Private Share, Samsung Pass, Samsung Cloud, Samsung Message etc. However, I still wish Samsung had given us an option to atleast disable them incase someone doesn't want to use those apps.
met4ller said:
Wow, 141 apps!! Are all these safe to remove?
And, most important, is true that majority of these app/processes doesn't drain battery because the true consuming processes are few/less?
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Yes it's true that many system apps don't run in the background and don't get activated until they are called/triggered. However, there's no way for us to know which system app is linked to other apps and how often they are triggered. So, you can disable them incase you don't use them. However, please note that sometimes it can backfire you. If you disable a system app which is important for the OS, your device will constantly search for that app as soon as you open any app which is partially/fully dependent on that system app. So, always check the function of a system app before you disble or debloat it.
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Yes it's true that many system apps don't run in the background and don't get activated until they are called/triggered. However, there's no way for us to know which system app is linked to other apps and how often they are triggered. So, you can disable them incase you don't use them. However, please note that sometimes it can backfire you. If you disable a system app which is important for the OS, your device will constantly search for that app as soon as you open any app which is partially/fully dependent on that system app. So, always check the function of a system app before you disble or debloat it.
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Yes man, I totally agree about removing all useless things and I never disable other than safe processes. Your last debloat list how many processes have inside ? I ll open next week when I ll check another list I already have (the one with 141 processes of the last week we talked about).
BTW i also disable all Samsung you mentioned, apart cloud that I feel is essential for any body because it also back up Bixby routines, good guardians and all settings (don't like to waste two hours in setting everything).
At the end the croaking speaker problem it was not connected to debloating/virus but an hardware issue that also other people accused in the Samsung forum.
On Tuesday I ll ship to fix it, not so funny to do it just after 2 months of use, but will be all for free at least.
The main, most important question now is: how to backup up on my windows all my list of disabled app with adb app control??
I really need to know it soon because I have to backup everything in 48h from now.
Thanks!