Question Can debloating lead to higher drain? - Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40

I have a question can debloating ROM actually make drain higher on Xiaomi.eu.
I deleted apps like MiCloud, soter service, miuidaemon, mipay etc...

No, exactly the contrary
After debloat Xiaomi.eu, the phone became consumption less battery and of less ram too. and the temperature decreases a lot
this is my list of debloating

CRNO said:
No, exactly the contrary
After debloat Xiaomi.eu, the phone became consumption less battery and of less ram too. and the temperature decreases a lot
this is my list of debloating
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You removed find device and didn't get bootloop?
I removed apps like miuidaemon,soter service, MiCloud,mipay,midrive,some Google apps...

jirka607 said:
You removed find device and didn't get bootloop?
I removed apps like miuidaemon,soter service, MiCloud,mipay,midrive,some Google apps...
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No. and my phone worked like feather ^^
notice when i removed security i lost jobs features of AI image engine . so keep it alive

CRNO said:
No. and my phone worked like feather ^^
notice when i removed security i lost jobs features of AI image engine . so keep it alive
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I found that removing soter and cloud disables certificate updates...but if that's ever needed you can just restore them.
Also...I uninstalled almost everything except cleaner I find it useful sometimes...otherwise all mi stuff is gone and lots of Google stuff also...

Removing partial collections can lead to increased drain. If two apps work together and one is missing, this could cause the other to run excessively trying to connect to the now missing other app.
The best solution is to make sure you disable all of the parts if you are going to disable the main app, such as all of the backend packages for Facebook.
Note: I don't have this phone, but saw the question in NEW POSTS and have seen this happen before.

twistedumbrella said:
Removing partial collections can lead to increased drain. If two apps work together and one is missing, this could cause the other to run excessively trying to connect to the now missing other app.
The best solution is to make sure you disable all of the parts if you are going to disable the main app, such as all of the backend packages for Facebook.
Note: I don't have this phone, but saw the question in NEW POSTS and have seen this happen before.
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But that would show up as system drain or the drain for the present part of app collection

jirka607 said:
But that would show up as system drain or the drain for the present part of app collection
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Depends on what had the dependency. If it was a user app, it will show up as the app. If it was part of the framework or system, then it would show up as the system.

Pro tip! If you want 120 Hz everywhere, disable "Battery & Performance" with the Xiaomi Debloater Tool (Xiaomi ADB Fastboot Tools). That app is responsible for limiting the screen to 60 Hz in certain apps, like the Recents-Menu, YouTube, Google Photos etc...

twistedumbrella said:
Depends on what had the dependency. If it was a user app, it will show up as the app. If it was part of the framework or system, then it would show up as the system.
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Ok so nothing like that is showing
Screenshot attached...so I guess everything is fine...

jirka607 said:
Ok so nothing like that is showing
Screenshot attached...so I guess everything is fine...
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I guess I mistook your original post to meant you had increased drain. Alright then, cheers.

twistedumbrella said:
I guess I mistook your original post to meant you had increased drain. Alright then, cheers.
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Nah I was just curious asking... Since idk if it can happen after I debloated... But I guess I simply won't Squeeze more battery from MIUI

jirka607 said:
I have a question can debloating ROM actually make drain higher on Xiaomi.eu.
I deleted apps like MiCloud, soter service, miuidaemon, mipay etc...
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how you removed such apps as this device has dynamic partitions so i am afraid of bootloop?

djnim said:
how you removed such apps as this device has dynamic partitions so i am afraid of bootloop?
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There's a tool called "Xiaomi ADB Fastboot Tools" which can uninstall system apps, and some other features. I think you can uninstall all system apps listed in that program, because it hides the important system apps.

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[Q] what are these system apps?

hello. i have some question regarding the functions of these apps. i googled them but some aren't helpful(e.g. "regionalization"). apps are from GB.
Customization Provider
Customized Settings(in TB described as Reset in Progress)
Customized Application Installer
DRM Protected Content Storage/DRM Provider
DRM Dialogs
UserAgentProvider
I have removed some of these apps a long time ago but I didn't face any instability. I just put it back to make sure. anyway what are the functions of these apps? thank you.
I think there was a list in the general forum about them, you can check there.
By the way, i dont get why removing some apps that take so little space in internal memory.
I mean, if they were given you problems ok then, i remove the fastdormant.apk cause it was given me a lot of wake ups.
17th_angel said:
I think there was a list in the general forum about them, you can check there.
By the way, i dont get why removing some apps that take so little space in internal memory.
I mean, if they were given you problems ok then, i remove the fastdormant.apk cause it was given me a lot of wake ups.
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there is a list but i think description is useless. by the way how do you monitor wakelocks?
zgmfx20 said:
there is a list but i think description is useless. by the way how do you monitor wakelocks?
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With better battery stats
I remember that i check the wakelocks and was one that had a lot of % and under the "description" or something like that was a list of processes or apks, dont remember exactly. But in that list was the fastdormant so i removed it and ta-da, the wakes was no longer.
I guess you can search for each individual apk on google, its the only thing in my mind. Sorry.
17th_angel said:
With better battery stats
I remember that i check the wakelocks and was one that had a lot of % and under the "description" or something like that was a list of processes or apks, dont remember exactly. But in that list was the fastdormant so i removed it and ta-da, the wakes was no longer.
I guess you can search for each individual apk on google, its the only thing in my mind. Sorry.
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okay thanks. and thanks for the tip.

List of Samsung Bloatware that can be safely disabled on the Note 7?

Hey Guys,
I currently have the international (N9300) version of the Note 7. Luckily I don't have any carrier bloatware to worry about.
But I was wondering if anyone has a list? Or could share a screen shot of what SAMSUNG BLOATWARE they have disabled with Package Disabler without having any problems?
My main goal would be to speed up performance / increase batter lift by disabling un-needed stuff from running in the BG. Just dont want to accidentally disable something that will screw up my phone, or get me stuck in a boot loop etc.
Thanks!
Is there any evidence that bloatware (whether from the manufacturer or the carrier) has any noticeable effect on performance? If not, de-bloating seems like a lot of trouble to go to for no real benefit.
Gary02468 said:
Is there any evidence that bloatware (whether from the manufacturer or the carrier) has any noticeable effect on performance? If not, de-bloating seems like a lot of trouble to go to for no real benefit.
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I think it made a difference in earlier versions of the Samsung phones. In the past, I would aggressively debloating my phones. With the modern versions, and OS features for shutting down apps that are not in use, including Touchwiz's aggressive RAM management, I don't think debloating has a noticeable effect. I disable any unused apps to get rid of visual clutter, I don't go beyond that. YMMV
GeorgeP said:
I think it made a difference in earlier versions of the Samsung phones.
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Yup, there was a time when debloating helped.
With the modern versions, and OS features for shutting down apps that are not in use, including Touchwiz's aggressive RAM management, I don't think debloating has a noticeable effect. I disable any unused apps to get rid of visual clutter, I don't go beyond that.
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Just curious--what visual clutter do you mean? In the apps drawer?
You also get bothered with update messages for apps that you don't use. Much better to turn them off.
Better to rid yourself of them. Some of them use data in the background even when you have never opened them, all of them burn bandwidth updating, some will send unwanted notifications, some have various reporting you might not want going on, some will light off location burning battery.
The old saying is if you don't use it, lose it. It still applies.
I like to remove system apps that I don't use like email or attn and other stuff... package disabler pro is a good app but paid... you can connect your phone to a pc and use debloater that can be found here in xda
Thanks for all the replies! But can someone please post a list of what they feel is good to be disabled?
Gary02468 said:
Just curious--what visual clutter do you mean? In the apps drawer?
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Yes. Primarily the apps drawer.
phame said:
Thanks for all the replies! But can someone please post a list of what they feel is good to be disabled?
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Agreed although I recalled mine when I get it back would be nice to know what is safe for the note 7 as most auto de bloater apps disable stuff that you don't want disabled. Would be good to have a proper list of all known safe bloatware and small description of each.

My rn5 whyred barely reach 5 hours SOT. Any idea why? Screenshot of battery history i

I mostly used it for camera and reddit via Chrome
Thank you.
If the attachment didn't work it's here https://photos.app.goo.gl/xTXPYGq4ZKVdMwoaA
Stable or Beta ROM ???
I'm Running on 9.6.3 stable ROM and here I got 5 hour SOT with 58% battery left
orangpelupa said:
I mostly used it for camera and reddit via Chrome
Thank you.
If the attachment didn't work it's here https://photos.app.goo.gl/xTXPYGq4ZKVdMwoaA
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What rom are you using?
orangpelupa said:
I mostly used it for camera and reddit via Chrome
Thank you.
If the attachment didn't work it's here https://photos.app.goo.gl/xTXPYGq4ZKVdMwoaA
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Used camera for more than 2 hours? It drains high amount of battery.
Op's phone awakes too much. Android System and Google Play Service batt usage are quite high.
Your phone's not supposed to be awake so much
theme name?
Miui 10 xiaomi.eu
orangpelupa said:
Miui 10 xiaomi.eu
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You have a couple of things running that are known battery pigs, i.e. Chrome, Whatsapp, Fit. Also check if your phone ever goes to deep sleep. Your Camera application as well sucked loads. If you used it a lot, it will dramatically reduce SOT.
If I was you, I'd try to freeze non relevant apps which run in background. Check the following links:
- Disable bloatware 1
- Disable bloatware 2
- Disable bloatware 3
In order to know how to use ADB, have a look at this video. You'll require to install ADB drivers, use the ones suggested in the comments below the description of the video.
In addition, try using Greenify (paid version if possible), it will allow you to force doze for several apps as well (have a look at the attached screenshot).
In short, my recommendations are:
- Get rid of almost every non essential app from Xiaomi (which basically means keeping only their gallery and file manager). Make sure you follow he recommendations given, otherwise you'll get an expesive paperweight
- Talking about weight, avoid heavy apps such as Facebook (use Facebook Lite instead), Twitter (Twitter Lite), Instagram (as you may have guessed, Instagram Lite), etc.; or even use their respective websites
- Use a different browser instead of Chrome (unless you want to deal with ads, RAM consumption and random stuttering). I'd encourage you to use Samsung Internet combined with AdBlock extension. You'll not regret it.
- For essential apps like calendar, clock, etc., use Google's ones.
- Make sure GPS is turned off (hold your finger on its toggle and make sure "Location access" is switched off, otherwise you'll keep running it in background and therefore wasting battery).
I guess I'm not forgetting anything. If you have more doubts, let me know
Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for what happens, make sure you're sure about what you're about to do prior to doing anything, it might have terrible consequences if this process is wrongly done (I'm talking by experience)
billyrock713 said:
- Disable bloatware 2
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Can argue about some if them, for example I'd leave MI Account on. But this is the best list, IMO. Delete, freeze, or if not sure then at least restrict background usage (disable Auto-Start and use Greenify or similar).
peter-k said:
Can argue about some if them, for example I'd leave MI Account on. But this is the best list, IMO. Delete, freeze, or if not sure then at least restrict background usage (disable Auto-Start and use Greenify or similar).
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Agreed, in fact it is mandatory keeping it if want to use themes. So happens with gallery (unless you want the screenshots capability broken). It mostly depends on what you need, and then act in consequence.

ADB/Fastboot tools debloat safe list

Hey gang, i have been working my way slowly through the adb/fastboot tools debloat list on the N8P and here is a list of the apps that i have uninstalled so far. My device is rock solid with no issues, and i'm seeing around 13 hours of sot so far.
heres the list, i'll update every once in a while as i slowly uninstall more.
Analytics
Android accessibility suite
app vault
browser
calendar
compass
Catchlog
digital wellbeing
downloads
fm radio
facebook
feedback
freeform
games
gmail
google app
google duo
google lens
joyose
msa
market feedback agent
mi credit
mi drop
mi pay
mi video
mi wallpaper
miui daemon
music
notes
PAI
Partner bookmarks
partner netflix activation
quick apps
quick ball
recorder
scanner
translation service
weather
WMService
yellow pages
Hi,
thanks for the information
what do you have for a Rom and how do you uninstall the stuff ....
A little guide would be great
mub19 said:
Hi,
thanks for the information
what do you have for a Rom and how do you uninstall the stuff ....
A little guide would be great
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I second this.
no special rom, just used adb/fastboot tools to uninstall - can't put links here for some reason, but just google it - its on github. Super simple, graphical interface. If you uninstall, it saves the .apk's so you can reinstall if necessary
The tool is called Saki tools
The tool that I always use is called saki tools, available on github. I'm sure he uses this also. It's great.
Just enable usb debugging on phone, open the application on pc and allow usb debugging, delete whatever you want.
Hopefully this clears up some confusion.
https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools/releases/tag/6.8.1
Not called Saki tools, its made by a developer names SZaki - its called Xiaomi ADB Fastboot Tools. but yes, thats the link. (why can i not post links?)
peoeope said:
The tool that I always use is called saki tools, available on github. I'm sure he uses this also. It's great.
Just enable usb debugging on phone, open the application on pc and allow usb debugging, delete whatever you want.
Hopefully this clears up some confusion.
https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools/releases/tag/6.8.1
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When i start the tool the device connects but when i select some programs and press uninstall the Device always disconnects and Stats says ERROR: Device could not be loaded!
Any ideas? USB debugging is enabeled i tried different USB Ports 2.0 3.0...
THX
updated the list with a few new ones i have recently killed off -
if anyone try's something other than listed - let us know.
roox911 said:
updated the list with a few new ones i have recently killed off -
if anyone try's something other than listed - let us know.
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For which version of miui?
Could you make as it.bat files for one click usage, yeah Miui also tend to change Apk names randomly each version update so you need to make different [.bat] for each miui versions. I did has my own personal list. Personally tested but outdated for already sold whyred.
You could make one click with options wizard
[remove extra Google app]
[total remove Google (Unsafe, for some one who want reinstall to microg/bitsGapps/picoGAPPs, make sure you already logout Google and has other keyboard installed) ]
[remove extra miui]
[total remove miui apps(make sure you got another launcher and logout miui account)]
[remove all non miui/Google bloats (Ie. Fb, preinstalled game)]
have you downloaded the program from github? Its a fully gui - click and delete. its for all current versions of miui as far as the developer has said. personally i'm on 10.4.4.0. The list that it gives you to delete are considered "safe to delete apps" - worst case i guess you soft brick.and need to do a factory reset. The app also leaves all the .apks for you to reinstall should something misbehave.
ScarletVeil said:
For which version of miui?
Could you make as it.bat files for one click usage, yeah Miui also tend to change Apk names randomly each version update so you need to make different [.bat] for each miui versions. I did has my own personal list. Personally tested but outdated for already sold whyred.
You could make one click with options wizard
[remove extra Google app]
[total remove Google (Unsafe, for some one who want reinstall to microg/bitsGapps/picoGAPPs, make sure you already logout Google and has other keyboard installed) ]
[remove extra miui]
[total remove miui apps(make sure you got another launcher and logout miui account)]
[remove all non miui/Google bloats (Ie. Fb, preinstalled game)]
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roox911 said:
have you downloaded the program from github? Its a fully gui - click and delete. its for all current versions of miui as far as the developer has said. personally i'm on 10.4.4.0. The list that it gives you to delete are considered "safe to delete apps" - worst case i guess you soft brick.and need to do a factory reset. The app also leaves all the .apks for you to reinstall should something misbehave.
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Yes, I already know for months already about it but her list is too simple and disabling function is buggy, disabled app still asking for update. Once we update it by mistake, or just changing region, they"ll back.
ScarletVeil said:
Yes, I already know for months already about it but her list is too simple and disabling function is buggy, disabled app still asking for update. Once we update it by mistake, or just changing region, they"ll back.
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I'm not sure what you are talking about - i have uninstalled everything on the list here - get no errors/bugs/requests for updates. They are gone and the phone is faster/safer and the battery lasts longer.
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I just debloated successfully and it's all working fine. But i'm still left with the same amount of free space as i had before i uninstalled any of the apps i did.... Makes me wonder if Szaki tools really uninstalls the apps or somehow disables them without removing it from the device... Kinda suspicious to be honest...
PS: Also, i want to uninstall this really unnecessary download handler that comes with this phone but i don't see an option to do so?
Helhound0 said:
PS: Also, i want to uninstall this really unnecessary download handler that comes with this phone but i don't see an option to do so?
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This Is why I said the list is not suitable for me. It's good for newbie but people with more experience need POWERUSER MODE to remove more bloats, like fully uninstall ALL MIUI related to make it as close as stock for example. Yes, I can use adb manually or use debloat module in magisk, but tools to make it easier will be very welcomed
ScarletVeil said:
This I'd why I said the list is not suitable for me. It's good for newbie but people with more experience need POWERUSER MODE to remove more bloats, like fully uninstall ALL MIUI related to make it as close as stock for example
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I agree. Someone already mentioned that at git too but Szaki's reply was to use "Add Apps" from the "App Manager" menu and update the list with what you want to remove. Apparently all the tabs use the same list...
Helhound0 said:
I just debloated successfully and it's all working fine. But i'm still left with the same amount of free space as i had before i uninstalled any of the apps i did.... Makes me wonder if Szaki tools really uninstalls the apps or somehow disables them without removing it from the device... Kinda suspicious to be honest...
PS: Also, i want to uninstall this really unnecessary download handler that comes with this phone but i don't see an option to do so?
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it leaves the apks on your phone so you can reinstall if necessary, so they are still going to take up some space.
There is ALSO a disable tab you can use, which does exactly that.
Are you 100% sure you didn't gain a small amount of space? I gained a bit after deleting the ones on my list.
ScarletVeil said:
This Is why I said the list is not suitable for me. It's good for newbie but people with more experience need POWERUSER MODE to remove more bloats, like fully uninstall ALL MIUI related to make it as close as stock for example. Yes, I can use adb manually or use debloat module in magisk, but tools to make it easier will be very welcomed
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he has stated multiple times that the list to intentionally small to avoid the huge amount of dependencies that miui bakes into their apps and OS. each phone has different dependencies, and sometimes what works on one phone, soft bricks another. SO... there is an option to add apps (at your discretion) but even the safe list is not promised to not soft brick a phone (some phones the list is fully safe, others, maybe it trips a dependency and breaks something
If you want, start adding apps from outside the list and respond with your findings That would be the POWERUSER thing to do, would it not?.
roox911 said:
it leaves the apks on your phone so you can reinstall if necessary, so they are still going to take up some space.
There is ALSO a disable tab you can use, which does exactly that.
Are you 100% sure you didn't gain a small amount of space? I gained a bit after deleting the ones on my list.
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Absolutely not... I had 103 GB when i started.. 103GB when i was done with the debloating ... :/
roox911 said:
Hey gang, i have been working my way slowly through the adb/fastboot tools debloat list on the N8P and here is a list of the apps that i have uninstalled so far. My device is rock solid with no issues, and i'm seeing around 13 hours of sot so far.
heres the list, i'll update every once in a while as i slowly uninstall more.
Analytics
Android accessibility suite
app vault
browser
calendar
compass
Catchlog
digital wellbeing
downloads
fm radio
facebook
feedback
freeform
games
gmail
google app
google duo
google lens
joyose
msa
market feedback agent
mi credit
mi drop
mi pay
mi video
mi wallpaper
miui daemon
music
notes
PAI
Partner bookmarks
partner netflix activation
quick apps
quick ball
recorder
scanner
translation service
weather
yellow pages
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Thanks, please have a look at this excellent post about debloating.
Though this is for redmi note 2, the list of apps you can safely remove is still quite actual.
Even though my phone is rooted, I couldn't remove system apk's and folders.
I've done so manually through twrp after first safely freezing apps by titanium to observe.
Root folder space is now at 70 %, which used to be over 90 if I remember well. :fingers-crossed:

Battery drain issues

I've been experiencing battery drain issues with random apps even after shutting off permissions for those apps and shutting off background activity. These apps have also been added to battery optimization.
I've noticed this happens when I open the app and then shut them down, by swiping away from recent apps screen - verified by reopening the app and it never is in the memory and reloads. But they still continue to drain the battery in the background (as can be seen on the screenshot with battery drainers). Facebook is a usual culprit but not the only one, there is generally a few of them as you can see there are some games too. This pretty much keeps changing to different apps every now and then. I feel I'm doing something wrong which is really causing this drain.. every now and then. Any suggestions / opinions?
Thanks!
rezapatel said:
I've been experiencing battery drain issues with random apps even after shutting off permissions for those apps and shutting off background activity. These apps have also been added to battery optimization.
I've noticed this happens when I open the app and then shut them down, by swiping away from recent apps screen - verified by reopening the app and it never is in the memory and reloads. But they still continue to drain the battery in the background (as can be seen on the screenshot with battery drainers). Facebook is a usual culprit but not the only one, there is generally a few of them as you can see there are some games too. This pretty much keeps changing to different apps every now and then. I feel I'm doing something wrong which is really causing this drain.. every now and then. Any suggestions / opinions?
Thanks!
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To add, I'm on the latest firmware with May security update (the one has been persistent throughout before and even now) ans not rooted.
How many time you do it ? Because it consumes less battery to keep them in memory than to reload all the apps every time you use them.
rezapatel said:
I've been experiencing battery drain issues with random apps even after shutting off permissions for those apps and shutting off background activity. These apps have also been added to battery optimization.
I've noticed this happens when I open the app and then shut them down, by swiping away from recent apps screen - verified by reopening the app and it never is in the memory and reloads. But they still continue to drain the battery in the background (as can be seen on the screenshot with battery drainers). Facebook is a usual culprit but not the only one, there is generally a few of them as you can see there are some games too. This pretty much keeps changing to different apps every now and then. I feel I'm doing something wrong which is really causing this drain.. every now and then. Any suggestions / opinions?
Thanks!
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Just a pointer re Facebook.
Take a look at your System apps in Device /Settings /App category
Look for Facebook... and you will see other 3 x Facebook related
apps also listed ..!
You shut Facebook down but the Facebook Services, Facebook App Manager.. etc...? is still running and suckling battery.?
See my screen snip.
I most probably don't need to remind you that Facebook,
has over the past years, been fingered/known, to drain battery
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My solution, which you most likely won't l "ike"
is to temporarily disable Facebook and the other Facebook related system apps.
Uninstall the one small Game or both??
and see if there is a improvement ?
Good luck.
Nastrahl said:
How many time you do it ? Because it consumes less battery to keep them in memory than to reload all the apps every time you use them.
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I meant I've tried both strategies. Shut them off by swiping them away, letting them be and also shutting off thr app's setting to run in background. Nothing worked really.
willcor said:
Just a pointer re Facebook.
Take a look at your System apps in Device /Settings /App category
Look for Facebook... and you will see other 3 x Facebook related
apps also listed ..!
You shut Facebook down but the Facebook Services, Facebook App Manager.. etc...? is still running and suckling battery.?
See my screen snip.
I most probably don't need to remind you that Facebook,
has over the past years, been fingered/known, to drain battery
.
My solution, which you most likely won't l "ike"
is to temporarily disable Facebook and the other Facebook related system apps.
Uninstall the one small Game or both??
and see if there is a improvement ?
Good luck.
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That's the issue, Facebook doesn't really bother me but the games (or other apps like Twitter or tiktok or Instagram) do. And it's not always Facebook or these specific games. It's different each day - any apps I more frequently used that day continue to stick there consuming power. Every day it's a different set of apps. But wondering why stick causing a drain!
rezapatel said:
That's the issue, Facebook doesn't really bother me but the games (or other apps like Twitter or tiktok or Instagram) do. And it's not always Facebook or these specific games. It's different each day - any apps I more frequently used that day continue to stick there consuming power. Every day it's a different set of apps. But wondering why stick causing a drain!
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yes ,
Firstly ,
over the years ,i have been a few times, in similar "position" than you, re apps and battery draining .!
I know it's very frustrating ..annoying .....
and in the end i always ended up doing a factory reset . !!
I use a cross section of a different "set " of tools eg BettterbatteryStats ,Wakelock Detector lite ,Gsam Battery etc . ( all ADB enabled) to try and pinpoint the culprit ..
Unfortunately ,the permutation/reasons can be many ??
eg You installed and uninstalled an app and "something " eg System settings got corrupted .?
You disabled /freezed ,an System app and it has an knock on effect .
You did some mod /hack or maybe a sideloaded app thats causing it ..?
App that you installed that's badly coded .
It also could be that when you did an OTA to latest firmware that something/system ,got corrupted..?
Bottom line ,
You sitting with a very irritating/frustrating issue .
Your options is either to live with it ? or try and find the culprit ?
or doing a factory reset .?
Yes, i know you most likely, don't favor a factory reset.
As stated i always ended up doing a factory,on the spur of the moment !!!
Then doing a clean install from scratch ..a few apps at a time .......
Anyway it's your choice .??
Good luck .
willcor said:
yes ,
Firstly ,
over the years ,i have been a few times, in similar "position" than you, re apps and battery draining .!
I know it's very frustrating ..annoying .....
and in the end i always ended up doing a factory reset . !!
I use a cross section of a different "set " of tools eg BettterbatteryStats ,Wakelock Detector lite ,Gsam Battery etc . ( all ADB enabled) to try and pinpoint the culprit ..
Unfortunately ,the permutation/reasons can be many ??
eg You installed and uninstalled an app and "something " eg System settings got corrupted .?
You disabled /freezed ,an System app and it has an knock on effect .
You did some mod /hack or maybe a sideloaded app thats causing it ..?
App that you installed that's badly coded .
It also could be that when you did an OTA to latest firmware that something/system ,got corrupted..?
Bottom line ,
You sitting with a very irritating/frustrating issue .
Your options is either to live with it ? or try and find the culprit ?
or doing a factory reset .?
Yes, i know you most likely, don't favor a factory reset.
As stated i always ended up doing a factory,on the spur of the moment !!!
Then doing a clean install from scratch ..a few apps at a time .......
Anyway it's your choice .??
Good luck .
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Thanks buddy, you make some really good points. This is the first time ever that I haven't rooted the phone or done anything to disrupt the default OS. All I've done is the ADB permissions required for the GSAM Batteey app tk be able to pill detailed info.
I'm thinking if there's some way to reset all permissions and reconfigure them as the apps require? That has fixed things for me in the past.
Factory reset isn't an easy option for me because of RSA apps configured on the phone otherwise I've got to go through a few calls to get access - sorta irritating.
Hopeful something works but until then I'm letting it be lol.
Thanks!
rezapatel said:
Thanks buddy, you make some really good points. This is the first time ever that I haven't rooted the phone or done anything to disrupt the default OS. All I've done is the ADB permissions required for the GSAM Batteey app tk be able to pill detailed info.
I'm thinking if there's some way to reset all permissions and reconfigure them as the apps require? That has fixed things for me in the past.
Factory reset isn't an easy option for me because of RSA apps configured on the phone otherwise I've got to go through a few calls to get access - sorta irritating.
Hopeful something works but until then I'm letting it be lol.
Thanks!
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I understand above if you say factory reset is an issue.!
I have a app call Bouncer paid (Play Store) installed on my device.
Don't think there is a free version, cannot remember, as I've had it for a while.
It basically controls your app permissions.
You can configure it to automatically remove permissions after using relevant app.
Also you can reset permissions.
It might help you.?
You can Google around a and see reviews.
To give you a idea, look at my screenshot.
Sorry, can't give any links, as it a paid app.
Good luck
willcor said:
I understand above if you say factory reset is an issue.!
I have a app call Bouncer paid (Play Store) installed on my device.
Don't think there is a free version, cannot remember, as I've had it for a while.
It basically controls your app permissions.
You can configure it to automatically remove permissions after using relevant app.
Also you can reset permissions.
It might help you.?
You can Google around a and see reviews.
To give you a idea, look at my screenshot.
Sorry, can't give any links, as it a paid app.
Good luck
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Purchased the app. Kinda handy, but even after rule once set, when you come out of the app, you need to remove the permissions (the overlay window on top requests for removal) - that sorta adds work opening / closing apps.
My battery issues have improved immensely by putting the Facebook app in deep sleep. Battery life now is pretty decent.
check find my mobile.apk and samsung internet browser.apk if at all installed official apps from apkmirror etc the uninstall that apk and go through galaxy store but in galaxy store dont update findmymobile.apk
rezapatel said:
Purchased the app. Kinda handy, but even after rule once set, when you come out of the app, you need to remove the permissions (the overlay window on top requests for removal) - that sorta adds work opening / closing apps.
My battery issues have improved immensely by putting the Facebook app in deep sleep. Battery life now is pretty decent.
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The facebook app is infamous for being a total battery hog, I disabled it and all aps related to it
rezapatel said:
Purchased the app. Kinda handy, but even after rule once set, when you come out of the app, you need to remove the permissions (the overlay window on top requests for removal) - that sorta adds work opening / closing apps.
My battery issues have improved immensely by putting the Facebook app in deep sleep. Battery life now is pretty decent.
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I suggest you take another look at your Bouncer settings.
You can auto remove it.
I had it on this setting but, change it to lock notifications, as i had better control.
Also remember to back up your Bouncer settings.
If ever you make a mistake you can just import you permission settings.
I forgot to do this a one stage and had to redo over Bouncer 200 apps.. Permissions...!
Otherwise if not sure as dev of Bouncer, for assistance
Good luck

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