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task killers / managers

hi guys...is it true that task killers/managers would decrease battery life or even slow down the system? i'm using advance task manager pro...i simply dun like to hv those apps running in the background (facebook,line,etc) so i kill them all the time...will this effect my phone's battery life and performance?

Close them and they will reopen, so you are using your CPU to reopen the apps. Just uninstall Facebook already, use the web version, they look the same. Better still, socialize with real people.
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Mach3.2 said:
Close them and they will reopen, so you are using your CPU to reopen the apps. Just uninstall Facebook already, use the web version, they look the same. Better still, socialize with real people.
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but the facebook app loads a bit faster...haha...so basically the task manager is not needed？

No. Uninstall it because it will actually make your system unstable. Android already is very efficient in it's memory usage so don't worry. It will kill it by itself if need be. I used to believe in then a lot until I learned the real truth and experienced the benefits myself. You'll be amazed how little it does.
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Ever since android evolved from running on phones with sub 128MB of ram, task killers have been unneeded, the LMK (low memory killer) has also got smarter about what it kills.
Unused ram is wasted ram (as afaik the phone cant turn of individual sections of ram, it's all on or off, and even then, the power required to refresh it to keep the data around is minimal compared to how much it costs to hit the flash and pull the apk into ram again).
The facebook app is junk, use a 3rd party one or turn sync off and live with the drainage.

nexicon said:
No. Uninstall it because it will actually make your system unstable. Android already is very efficient in it's memory usage so don't worry. It will kill it by itself if need be. I used to believe in then a lot until I learned the real truth and experienced the benefits myself. You'll be amazed how little it does.
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task killer will make the system unstable?didnt know tat...looks like i’ll uninstall my task manager...

veyka said:
Ever since android evolved from running on phones with sub 128MB of ram, task killers have been unneeded, the LMK (low memory killer) has also got smarter about what it kills.
Unused ram is wasted ram (as afaik the phone cant turn of individual sections of ram, it's all on or off, and even then, the power required to refresh it to keep the data around is minimal compared to how much it costs to hit the flash and pull the apk into ram again).
The facebook app is junk, use a 3rd party one or turn sync off and live with the drainage.
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actually my facebook app doesnt drain tat much battery compared to my chrome and temple run...haha

ace-user said:
actually my facebook app doesnt drain tat much battery compared to my chrome and temple run...haha
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Make sure to turn off "Enable tilt scrolling" in chrome's developer tools settings, at least until they fix the wakelock bug it causes
As far as temple run, well its a game!11!1

veyka said:
Make sure to turn off "Enable tilt scrolling" in chrome's developer tools settings, at least until they fix the wakelock bug it causes
As far as temple run, well its a game!11!1
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u mean enabling that setting will cause wakelock?

ace-user said:
actually my facebook app doesnt drain tat much battery compared to my chrome and temple run...haha
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More than you realize.
I use Friendcaster with notifications off.
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Zeinzu said:
More than you realize.
I use Friendcaster with notifications off.
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seriously?i see from my battery stats tat it only drains about 6% , tats not much right?or is it?=/

ace-user said:
u mean enabling that setting will cause wakelock?
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If enable tilt scrolling is turned on, chrome tends to hold a wake lock on the orientation sensor, causing wake locks.
And its turned on by default.
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I use memory usage app from twistbyte, any app running with priority 300 is running as a service in the background. Check the apps running in 300 and decide if you really need them....
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task killer is really pointless. Facebook app does take a lot of battery, so recommend using scope beta or friendcaster instead
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[SHARE] Battery Saving Techniques!

NOTE: Im turning this into a sharing thread where everybody can post and share their techniques on how they save battery consumption. I'll quote all the useful suggestions here in the first post
I would like to start off by saying that all ROMs basically consume badly just like the stock version. There could be little to no differences between them with regards to battery performance. Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance.
glennlevi's Technique:
1. Get Antutu Battery Saver Pro (Free version can be found in the market). Install and untick the option control cpu speed.
2. Using No Frills CPU, or any other built-in cpu settings app, select your default governor (bcm####) and sio as your I/O scheduler. Maximum Frequency should be your highest available, and Minimum Frequency your lowest available.
3. Manually adjust screen brightness in settings to about 20%.
4. Untick Background Data and Auto Sync in settings, under Accounts and Sync Settings.
5. Get Ram Booster (Free in market) and install. Open. Under settings, set Boost Level to aggresive, set whitelist apps and tick your launcher, sms app, keyboard, and Ram Booster and Antutu Battery Saver. Untick Show Overlay Widget in Overlay Widget Settings. Enable the widget in the notification bar, refresh every 5s, Report Style Dont Show. Under Advanced Settings, set Feedback to None. Clean Ram using this app everytime just before you turn off your screen or want to stop using your phone.
6. Drag down your notification bar and tap the Ram Booster Notification. Now wait a couple of mins while browsing through your phone (without opening any apps)
*You can use other task killers if you want, but Ram Booster is the best IMO. A better replacement however is 360 launcher's cleaner widget (which will save more memory, ram and battery usage since its all in one app)
7. Open settings and go to Applications>Running Processes and look at all running apps, you will see some auto-start apps like Beats Audio, DSP Manager, Google Mail, Google Maps, Google Playstore and others. Uninstall all user apps that have autostarted. Download Titanium Backup and use it to uninstall stock bloatware, like google maps and google mail, or other custom bloatware like Beats Audio (If you dont use them at all). Clean Dalvik Cache using Titanium Backup and Clean Cache using Ram Booster. Freeze seldom used apps like Google Playstore. Just unfreeze when you want to use them.
*You can use other apps like Root Uninstaller to remove system apps, but IMO Titanium Backup is the easiest to use and has one of the most functions.
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Imacatlover's tips:
Imacatlover said:
The best way to save battery is really to know your fone.
1. any type of widget should be avoided( except maybe clock) as they are juice hoggers.
2. ANY app that suggest or implies that they save battery defeats their own purpose for they themselves consume battery life...figures.
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
5. keep most settings to a minimum.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..
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irfanbagus said:
i do. well, not full kernel, just kernel module. search bacem-tweak in dev section. but i find that the best thing you can do to save battery is keep your phone sleep as long as possible. that's means remove bloatware, limit installed app with service, and only turn data/wifi when needed. combine with undervoltage, usually i got 3-4 days in single charge. in some very rare condition i got 6-7 days.
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There you go! Have a blazing fast and battery healthy SGY!

i'll try that as soon as i can

OxygeenHD said:
i'll try that as soon as i can
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Just to be clear, using Titanium Backup and changing CPU settings requires a rooted phone
Well, most custom roms are rooted anyways. Im just saying this cuz you might be running on stock rom

Nice tutorial :good: :good: :good:

Good one thanks mate xD

I'd like to confirm a few things. some of info on this thread is never heard.
glennlevi said:
2. Using No Frills CPU, or any other built-in cpu settings app, select your default governor (bcm####) and sio as your I/O scheduler. Maximum Frequency should be your highest available, and Minimum Frequency your lowest available.
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bcm work almost like performance gov. are sure about it?
5. Get Ram Booster (Free in market) and install. Open. Under settings, set Boost Level to aggresive, set whitelist apps and tick your launcher, sms app, keyboard, and Ram Booster and Antutu Battery Saver. Untick Show Overlay Widget in Overlay Widget Settings. Enable the widget in the notification bar, refresh every 5s, Report Style Dont Show. Under Advanced Settings, set Feedback to None. Clean Ram using this app everytime just before you turn off your screen or want to stop using your phone.
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is this information have been confirmed? as far as I know fewer widget is low ram consuming and more battery friendly. notification will prevent your device sleep. notification for every 5 second?it will make your battery life decreased, a lot. on other hand, clean ram have been proved consume huge battery power.
6. Drag down your notification bar and tap the Ram Booster Notification. Now wait a couple of mins while browsing through your phone (without opening any apps)
*You can use other task killers if you want, but Ram Booster is the best IMO. A better replacement however is 360 launcher's cleaner widget (which will save more memory, ram and battery usage since its all in one app)
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why should I use it when android have it's own task killer.?
7. Open settings and go to Applications>Running Processes and look at all running apps, you will see some auto-start apps like Beats Audio, DSP Manager, Google Mail, Google Maps, Google Playstore and others. Uninstall all user apps that have autostarted. Download Titanium Backup and use it to uninstall stock bloatware, like google maps and google mail, or other custom bloatware like Beats Audio (If you dont use them at all). Clean Dalvik Cache using Titanium Backup and Clean Cache using Ram Booster. Freeze seldom used apps like Google Playstore. Just unfreeze when you want to use them.
*You can use other apps like Root Uninstaller to remove system apps, but IMO Titanium Backup is the easiest to use and has one of the most functions.
There you go! Have a blazing fast and battery healthy SGY!
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most android app work with autostart. in fact, all you can see in android is actually an app. debloatware is a good recommendation, but a complete app removing? please make sure about the validity of these information.

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kurotsugi said:
I'd like to confirm a few things. some of info on this thread is never heard. bcm work almost like performance gov. are sure about it?
is this information have been confirmed? as far as I know fewer widget is low ram consuming and more battery friendly. notification will prevent your device sleep. notification for every 5 second?it will make your battery life decreased, a lot. on other hand, clean ram have been proved consume huge battery power.
why should I use it when android have it's own task killer.?
most android app work with autostart. in fact, all you can see in android is actually an app. debloatware is a good recommendation, but a complete app removing? please make sure about the validity of these information.
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First off I would like to quote myself -
"Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance."
As such, Im sharing this because
1. I think it might help other people.
2. I've tried it and compared it many times in many different rom, and what I recommend is based from my own experience
3. I know youre a dev. Im not, obviously. That doesnt mean I cant share what I think is useful. This is also backed up by the fact that Im not claiming Im sure that these actually work and that I can back it up with additional information. Again, this is just based on my experience.
again I would like to repeat the quotation from myself:
"Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance."
There you go. I hope that clears it all up. So please dont pick on me or anything just because Im not a dev. Thank you.

nope...I never intended to pick on you. I'm just feeding up my curiosity. I'm sorry if you feel like that.

thanks for sharing we need tat support...other be frank..be opened for sharing..
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kurotsugi said:
nope...I never intended to pick on you. I'm just feeding up my curiosity. I'm sorry if you feel like that.
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Well, thanks anyways for noticing my thread. Now I know some of my suggestions may be far from the theoretical facts that you know, but there are times when actually testing something and comparing it with others yield better results than just looking up the figures. Thats just my take on it though, so Im not saying thats all there is to it.
Anyway, maybe I'll edit this thread and make it a SHARING THREAD instead. I'll just regularly view it and put all suggestions that other members have in the first post

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Well, thanks anyways for noticing my thread. Now I know some of my suggestions may be far from the theoretical facts that you know, but there are times when actually testing something and comparing it with others yield better results than just looking up the figures. Thats just my take on it though, so Im not saying thats all there is to it.
Anyway, maybe I'll edit this thread and make it a SHARING THREAD instead. I'll just regularly view it and put all suggestions that other members have in the first post
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The best way to save battery is really to know your fone.
1. any type of widget should be avoided( except maybe clock) as they are juice hoggers.
2. ANY app that suggest or implies that they save battery defeats their own purpose for they themselves consume battery life...figures.
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
5. keep most settings to a minimum.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..

good tutorial
I will try it
Thanks

Imacatlover said:
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
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do you ever wonder how ram cleaner works ? by killing some applications. ram cleaner = task killer.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..
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not that crap if you realize it's 2011 android phone with $120 price. right now with that money you can find a lot better phone, but in late of 2011 there is only few choice on that price range.

Please share your battery saving techniques and tips here! I will add the good ones on the first post with quotation.
Probably when there are already a lot, I will compile all tips to make one big guide which has been contributed by the whole community. Lets work together on this

irfanbagus said:
do you ever wonder how ram cleaner works ? by killing some applications. ram cleaner = task killer.
not that crap if you realize it's 2011 android phone with $120 price. right now with that money you can find a lot better phone, but in late of 2011 there is only few choice on that price range.
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hmm... seems legit
Cant argue with you on that, most apps are generally glorified task managers, there are a few good ones though.
That's why i'm planning to buy a new android this christmas, maybe S1 or S2 depending on my budget.

wonder why no one want to make a battery saver kernel than superspeed kernel...

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That's why i'm planning to buy a new android this christmas, maybe S1 or S2 depending on my budget.
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why not nexus phone ?
i do have plan to buy another android phone after i give my sgy to my girlfriend and back to my old rokr e6. but not this year. too much spending money for gadget this year.
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wonder why no one want to make a battery saver kernel than superspeed kernel...
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i do. well, not full kernel, just kernel module. search bacem-tweak in dev section. but i find that the best thing you can do to save battery is keep your phone sleep as long as possible. that's means remove bloatware, limit installed app with service, and only turn data/wifi when needed. combine with undervoltage, usually i got 3-4 days in single charge. in some very rare condition i got 6-7 days.

irfanbagus said:
why not nexus phone ?
i do have plan to buy another android phone after i give my sgy to my girlfriend and back to my old rokr e6. but not this year. too much spending .
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Sir i want to ask you onething, offtopic, in nexus there is no memorycard slot, so we have to keep all data including gallery files and even a new rom in phone memory. If we want to flash a new rom, then how can we do that? While we wipe the data and cache before flashing all data will be deleted? The rom file too?.
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I am using juice defender, i think it's good.
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[Q]how to get rid of background apps

well the title said it. i have HOX unlocked and rooted with stock rom , the problem is there is alot of apps running in the back ground sucking my batter dry and filling my ram for no reason. i know there is alot of task mangers apps on the market (im using Advanced Task Manager Pro) it close all the apps running in the backround every 1 min, thats good but i want to stop the problem at it source. is there is a way to block the apps from even running in the first place?
im using :
Ds Battery Saver Pro (to save battery life)
Set Cpu (to control CPU clock thus save battery life)

Go to all apps in settings click the app and then disable.
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Thebommer said:
well the title said it. i have HOX unlocked and rooted with stock rom , the problem is there is alot of apps running in the back ground sucking my batter dry and filling my ram for no reason. i know there is alot of task mangers apps on the market (im using Advanced Task Manager Pro) it close all the apps running in the backround every 1 min, thats good but i want to stop the problem at it source. is there is a way to block the apps from even running in the first place?
im using :
Ds Battery Saver Pro (to save battery life)
Set Cpu (to control CPU clock thus save battery life)
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try greenify app

tried greenify unfortunately it did nothing at all

Thebommer said:
tried greenify unfortunately it did nothing at all
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Should have, I've been using it for over a month and it did wonders for my battery. Did you hit the little plus button in the lower right hand corner. That's how you add apps that you want to "greenify".
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[Q] Don't keep activites -developer option saves battery life?

Does enable this option help save battery life? as the process is suspended once user quits it. We all know some roguewares would keep themselves active even though not running forground and draining tons of battery.

Unless you are trying to debug an app do not enable this.
It's for developers trying to develop and debug their applications behavior.
MAYBE if u have rogue app installed it may help JUST for that app. But that's a BIG maybe. And then it could cause other apps to have to relaod constantly which will DEMOLISH battery AND performance due to higher CPU usage.

ashclepdia said:
Unless you are trying to debug an app do not enable this.
It's for developers trying to develop and debug their applications behavior.
MAYBE if u have rogue app installed it may help JUST for that app. But that's a BIG maybe. And then it could cause other apps to have to relaod constantly which will DEMOLISH battery AND performance due to higher CPU usage.
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I usually choose close all acitive applications upon finish using the phone, so I guess this option would do this automatically for me? I've found if I leave certain apps active my battery drains way faster.

jian1 said:
I usually choose close all acitive applications upon finish using the phone, so I guess this option would do this automatically for me? I've found if I leave certain apps active my battery drains way faster.
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The developer setting for kill all apps upon exit is NOT the same as clearing recents. It isn't doing the same thing.
Which apps by the way would you say are "staying active" ?
You can check to see if it is those apps specifically that are causing drain by using apps like Gsam battery monitor (my personal choice due to its user friendliness) or better battery stats app. In Gsam battery monitor you can open the app usage section to see exactly which apps used esactly how much battery/CPU wakelocks/time held awake/background CPU vs. foreground CPU/ etc....
I would say that MAYBE for a very specific type of usage that this option may help in battery life. But it without a doubt will eventual degrade performance, due to more CPU cylces needed to fully open an app from scratch vs having it cached in ram. The setting is for sure meant for developers trying to debug their applications behavior and not meant for users to get better battery or performance. If it WAS meant for those, it would have been enabled by default. It will surely mess up multitasking, which is what android is really all about. TRUE multi tasking with apps running in background. So that is what would really depend on your usage I would think.

ashclepdia said:
The developer setting for kill all apps upon exit is NOT the same as clearing recents. It isn't doing the same thing.
Which apps by the way would you say are "staying active" ?
You can check to see if it is those apps specifically that are causing drain by using apps like Gsam battery monitor (my personal choice due to its user friendliness) or better battery stats app. In Gsam battery monitor you can open the app usage section to see exactly which apps used esactly how much battery/CPU wakelocks/time held awake/background CPU vs. foreground CPU/ etc....
I would say that MAYBE for a very specific type of usage that this option may help in battery life. But it without a doubt will eventual degrade performance, due to more CPU cylces needed to fully open an app from scratch vs having it cached in ram. The setting is for sure meant for developers trying to debug their applications behavior and not meant for users to get better battery or performance. If it WAS meant for those, it would have been enabled by default. It will surely mess up multitasking, which is what android is really all about. TRUE multi tasking with apps running in background. So that is what would really depend on your usage I would think.
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I think this usage suit my usage very well, I use my phone briefly for calling, maybe very rarely webbrowsing, or sometimes wechat, so I want an app to stop completely once I finished using it since I probably won't open it again in 3,4 days.... I am not those smartphone addicts that's constantly playing their devices.
I only use webbrowser when I was outside and need to lookup an address... no, I don't even use facebook.

jian1 said:
I think this usage suit my usage very well, I use my phone briefly for calling, maybe very rarely webbrowsing, or sometimes wechat, so I want an app to stop completely once I finished using it since I probably won't open it again in 3,4 days.... I am not those smartphone addicts that's constantly playing their devices.
I only use webbrowser when I was outside and need to lookup an address... no, I don't even use facebook.
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[Q] RAM is at 2GB of 3GB ??

I have noticed that im using up 2gb of ram. But i have only downloaded a few apps. No games. All the stuff i had before. My old phone was a little over 1gb total. Is this normal. Does the phone uses a lot of ram out of the box. Im thinking of rooting just so i can free up some ram. Not sure if that is possible. Im coming from a galaxy and very happy with this d851 g3.
Anyone having a memory problem ? Issues? What can i do?

Android always runs while using up as much ram as possible. Thats normal, if your phone had 8gb of ram, most likely it would also be using most of it up.

Makes app switching faster.......

All that bloatware runs in the background contributing to a high ram usage

nohcho said:
All that bloatware runs in the background contributing to a high ram usage
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Not completely true. I disabled most of the T-Mobile and LG crap on this phone and it's still using the same amount of RAM. It's Android's memory management.

I bet if the Android team could go back in time in the early days of system development they would have probably removed the ability to see free ram. So many people get caught up in free ram when the phone is using the available ram to the best of its ability.

Windows does alot of the same as well. Even though if you go into task manager it shows free if you actually look at your system resourses it shows alot of it is taken.

Unused RAM is wasted RAM.

Not sure about the whole 2g for 3gb thing but your system need all the rams it can use to keep your phone running smoothly. If you use ram cleaner (so they are call) you will notice your phone goes through a gitter before it it can pick up again. You look 5 minute later, its like you never clean anything.
and tmobile is surely 3g

Free RAM is wasted RAM.

Android uses RAM differently from say Windows. Android will use as much ram as available and when it needs more, it will free it up as needed. This is normal.

So yea i installed greenify and it made a **** load of a difference because i have like 40 games and a load of other apps. I have less than 1.5 gigs used now. And my phones way smoother and batterylife is good again
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brolic925t said:
So yea i installed greenify and it made a **** load of a difference because i have like 40 games and a load of other apps. I have less than 1.5 gigs used now. And my phones way smoother and batterylife is good again
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Don't worry you're about to see that battery life drop like a rock. Constantly killing apps will kill your battery fast. Greenify is a nice app if you have a crap phone but your G3 was made the way it is for a reason. What you think is smooth and fast is actually hurting your phone. Don't believe me, Google it and do some research. I do not recommend anyone using any format of task killer or ram optimizer on a phone that is current with the times.

Do I think the phone has issues. yes. When using it the apps don't close when ram is needed. Only fix is a reboot or kill the app but at times that does not work

Jammol said:
Don't worry you're about to see that battery life drop like a rock. Constantly killing apps will kill your battery fast. Greenify is a nice app if you have a crap phone but your G3 was made the way it is for a reason. What you think is smooth and fast is actually hurting your phone. Don't believe me, Google it and do some research. I do not recommend anyone using any format of task killer or ram optimizer on a phone that is current with the times.
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Don't worry Jammol doesn't know what he is talking about. Greenify doesn't hurt battery life and performance like a task killer because isn't a task killer. It is completely different. I agree that task killers should be renamed to battery/phone performance killers but Greenify is very different.
First of all it requires your phone to be rooted. Assuming that it is, it uses special permissions from the rooted device to essentially freeze the app unless it is opened by the user. For example, I use facebook but only casually. I look at it once every other day or so but have noticed that the push notifications and messenger uses a lot of battery because it does a partial wake everytime it pushes a update which activates the internet and cpu.
The solution is to "Greenify" the app. The app still loads normally when I open it up although, because it is not in the ram, it likely takes slightly longer to load. Once it is opened, I can use it like normal and I get push notifications again until my phone's screen goes off. Once the screen goes off, facebook and all the apps that I "Greenify" are flushed from the memory and are banned/essentially frozen until I launch the respective app again. The only drawback to this is that you essentially never get push notifications for the apps but it saves a lot of battery if you pick the apps that you don't care much about/rarely use.
So greenify does work really well. Today my phone had 17% left. I it had 16+ hours of battery time total. I got 4.25 hours of SOT with sync on (with 3 email accounts getting push notifications plus other apps), GPS high accuracy, LG health automatically recording my exercise, and 1 hour of navigation with Waze. Basically I used my phone how I wanted and didn't micromanage my battery usage throughout the day at all.
I used 3 battery saving tools. 1. ART 2. Greenify and 3. Custom Kernel V002 from KAsp3rd. These three are very powerful together.
I hope that helps someone!

ART

CAP3r5 said:
Don't worry Jammol doesn't know what he is talking about. Greenify doesn't hurt battery life and performance like a task killer because isn't a task killer. It is completely different. I agree that task killers should be renamed to battery/phone performance killers but Greenify is very different.
First of all it requires your phone to be rooted. Assuming that it is, it uses special permissions from the rooted device to essentially freeze the app unless it is opened by the user. For example, I use facebook but only casually. I look at it once every other day or so but have noticed that the push notifications and messenger uses a lot of battery because it does a partial wake everytime it pushes a update which activates the internet and cpu.
The solution is to "Greenify" the app. The app still loads normally when I open it up although, because it is not in the ram, it likely takes slightly longer to load. Once it is opened, I can use it like normal and I get push notifications again until my phone's screen goes off. Once the screen goes off, facebook and all the apps that I "Greenify" are flushed from the memory and are banned/essentially frozen until I launch the respective app again. The only drawback to this is that you essentially never get push notifications for the apps but it saves a lot of battery if you pick the apps that you don't care much about/rarely use.
So greenify does work really well. Today my phone had 17% left. I it had 16+ hours of battery time total. I got 4.25 hours of SOT with sync on (with 3 email accounts getting push notifications plus other apps), GPS high accuracy, LG health automatically recording my exercise, and 1 hour of navigation with Waze. Basically I used my phone how I wanted and didn't micromanage my battery usage throughout the day at all.
I used 3 battery saving tools. 1. ART 2. Greenify and 3. Custom Kernel V002 from KAsp3rd. These three are very powerful together.
I hope that helps someone!
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Out of curiosity, how are you using art with xposed? Greenify uses the xposed framework.
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Harmtan2 said:
Out of curiosity, how are you using art with xposed? Greenify uses the xposed framework.
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I am not using xposed. Greenify works just fine for me without xposed. If you want some of the more advanced and experimental features, you need xposed but the basic functionality does not require it..

CAP3r5 said:
I am not using xposed. Greenify works just fine for me without xposed. If you want some of the more advanced and experimental features, you need xposed but the basic functionality does not require it..
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Aww that man's sense. I want to ruin art, I just don't want to give up my xposed features lol.
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Harmtan2 said:
Aww that man's sense. I want to ruin art, I just don't want to give up my xposed features lol.
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I know what you mean! This is just the latest skirmish in the never ending war between features and battery/performance. I can't wait for Android L to come out because this particular battle will end (xposed will support android L which uses ART exclusively) but the war will rage on..