Determining the Actual Battery Capacity on a new S9 - Samsung Galaxy S9 Questions & Answers

AccuBattery shows estimate of 2740 mAh on S9 one week old. If true, I'm replacing the phone tomorrow, if for no better reason than a comparison. However, there must be a better way to determine the actual "depth of power" of a non-removable battery. (Actual amount of juice)
Can anyone tell me how to determine that? How do I know I've gotten what I paid for in a battery speced at 3000 mAh?

Not with apps
Only 100% accurate way would be hooking a test unit up to the actual battery

*Detection* said:
Not with apps
Only 100% accurate way would be hooking a test unit up to the actual battery
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Do you mean by opening up the phone?
I do not see that as a good alternative in this situation.

Has no one created faux pas benchmarks such as playing a particular Youtube video for 1 hour (or variation) with Google Chrome, with wifi measured signal strength noted, Screen on 100% brightness or measured alternative, and noting any other variables, for various devices?
Could you post any known similar results, compilations?

harmonz said:
Do you mean by opening up the phone?
I do not see that as a good alternative in this situation.
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What I mean is, stop listening to apps for something they cannot possibly measure accurately as it would have to be done with hardware

If you want more accurate estimate of the battery capacity through Accu Battery - do not forget to go to flight mode first and then charge your phone.
BTW my 1yr old s9 shows ~2715mah (and it actually says it approximate value).
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Sunslayer said:
If you want more accurate estimate of the battery capacity through Accu Battery - do not forget to go to flight mode first and then charge your phone.
BTW my 1yr old s9 shows ~2715mah (and it actually says it approximate value).
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Thanks for the reminder. I usually keep the phone off but have not always been vigilant about Flight Mode. Definitely no data, but I have sometimes left WiFi or Bluetooth. With as little activity as I get lately, I had assumed I was not using much if any mAh during the charge.
2715 mAh on a 1-year-old S9 seems impressive. Do you generally try to stop charge at 80% or let it go to 100%?
Do you charge overnight?
Do you generally let power go until the phone notification of charge at 15%?
Thanks,
Marc

Comparative test of different recent phones
I noticed that AccuBattery's Estimated Capacity can be tricked into reporting a higher value by having the screen on for a few minutes just before unplugging.
That is discouraging this one from trusting the algorithms for the AccuBattery, as also stated by 'Detection.'
I did run a preliminary test with a few phones.
2 hours run time, in safe mode, airplane mode, WiFi strength ~ -53dBm at a distance of 30 feet. Google Chrome browser, youtube running Battery Drainer 2 video, sans audio, 100% brightness. (I assume the S9 is at 100% when fully to the right and into the red line for a little bit of distance.)
1st phone a 3-month-old refurb with specs battery capacity of 3400 mAh ran about the same time as the S9 spec at 3000 mAh. Which would suggest either the S9 is in better condition or the refurb is in worse condition than originally considered.
I will probably run this again using a movie and audio though I'm limited on the one phone to play video with 'Drive' video player. Hopefully, the S9 can use this as well.
All suggestions welcome,
Thanks,
Marc

harmonz said:
Thanks for the reminder. I usually keep the phone off but have not always been vigilant about Flight Mode. Definitely no data, but I have sometimes left WiFi or Bluetooth. With as little activity as I get lately, I had assumed I was not using much if any mAh during the charge.
2715 mAh on a 1-year-old S9 seems impressive. Do you generally try to stop charge at 80% or let it go to 100%?
Do you charge overnight?
Do you generally let power go until the phone notification of charge at 15%?
Thanks,
Marc
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I tend to stop charging at 85% (or around) occasionally to 100% when I forget to unplug the phone. I start charging at whatever percentage I notice it needs charging, sometime 15 sometime 25 sometime 40%
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[Q] Horrible Battery Life

How is everyone finding the battery life. Personally, I am finding it just plain horrible. I'm not sure what the issue is specifically but either something is draining it or it is just really that bad, in which case I will return it. I can't get a day's worth of moderate use out of it. It seems to be at most half of what I get from my note 10.1 and they aren't set up any differently. I've tried some of the basics like turning down the screen brightness (which annoys me), turning off the smart stay (but why have a feature you can't use), tweaking email checking settings, turning off samsung sync, turning off bluetooth (don't use it), and locations services. Is anyone else seeing this as an issue and does anyone have any additional suggestions for me to try?
Thanks in Advance
I get about two days between charges on mine. I get a decent amount of usage on a daily basis between email, Facebook, and candy crush. I even have Google Now running. How many charge cycles have you been through?
05GT said:
I get about two days between charges on mine. I get a decent amount of usage on a daily basis between email, Facebook, and candy crush. I even have Google Now running. How many charge cycles have you been through?
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If by charge cycles you mean fully discharging the phone until it shuts off, I haven't done that, but could give it a shot. It has gone down to 10% several times though.
No battery problems here. I wouldn't blame charge cycles, if they have any effect at all, it is minor. If I were you, I would do a factory reset, followed by an exchange if the reset doesn't fix it.
I have smart stay on , backlight on auto, and take no extra precautions for battery savings.
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How is everyone finding the battery life. Personally, I am finding it just plain horrible. I'm not sure what the issue is specifically but either something is draining it or it is just really that bad, in which case I will return it. I can't get a day's worth of moderate use out of it. It seems to be at most half of what I get from my note 10.1 and they aren't set up any differently. I've tried some of the basics like turning down the screen brightness (which annoys me), turning off the smart stay (but why have a feature you can't use), tweaking email checking settings, turning off samsung sync, turning off bluetooth (don't use it), and locations services. Is anyone else seeing this as an issue and does anyone have any additional suggestions for me to try?
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Can you please post some screen shots of your battery life at the end of a typical cycle? It will help with comparisons by giving us more details on your running apps, screen-on display times, etc. Also, what wakelocks do you have? Use BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector from the Play store for that. This info might help us to identify just how much drain is related to rogue apps or the general battery life itself.
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Can you please post some screen shots of your battery life at the end of a typical cycle? It will help with comparisons by giving us more details on your running apps, screen-on display times, etc. Also, what wakelocks do you have? Use BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector from the Play store for that. This info might help us to identify just how much drain is related to rogue apps or the general battery life itself.
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Thanks. Just downloaded BetterBatteryStatus. I'll let it run for a bit and see what comes up. I'll post what I came up with with screen shots from it. Thanks for pointing me in a direction.
Also, it'd help to know how many hours "just plain horrible" is.
I'm not delighted by the battery life I'm seeing, I'm finding I want to charge every night, and that I can easily consume 15% / hour or more even without the screen turned up past 20-25%. (watching video off the NAS in the house.)
Then again, this is the first LCD display I've been able to read in full sunlight, and that's remarkable to me. I often wind up with full sun in the morning when I get up, and am delighted that if I did charge overnight I can use the device even then.
The battery needs some initial "training".
Charge fully on the first and run it all the way down to nearly zero, and fully charge again.
DO NOT interrupt the initial charge.
Battery life is great here after 5 cycles running it to 1% and recharging full at first it was draining faster but now I can watch 4 hours of netflix and still have 25% left nice thing is that the battery charges superfast so no worries
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If by charge cycles you mean fully discharging the phone until it shuts off, I haven't done that, but could give it a shot. It has gone down to 10% several times though.
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10% is just fine, for purposes of calibrating the battery meter. Preferable actually. You shouldn't actually drain the device until shutdown. There are safeguards that are supposed to ensure the battery voltage does not drop too low (its not actually zero when the phone shuts down). However, in reality these safeguards are not always failsafe and I've seen plenty of cases on various Android devices where letting the battery drain to shutoff renders the battery unable to take a charge (below the minimum threshold voltage). Sometimes, letting the battery charge overnight will bring the battery back. Otherwise, you are pretty screwed, as the only remedy would be a battery meter with a boost function.
In any case, the battery meter is not very accurate, even under the best of circumstances, so letting it drain to 10% is plenty accurate enough. Then let it charge to 100%, and let it sit at full for a while, as fully saturating the battery takes extra time.
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That said, its hard to say what "moderate use" means. Everyone uses their devices differently. If you are playing intensive games, downloading files, heavy internet usage, it can drain the battery much faster than other activities. And the number of hours of screen-on time is key. So the idea of getting some battery stats and screenshots, is a good one.
I haven't been tracking screen-on time myself. But I find the battery to be decent. I use it a good amount in the evening (don't bring it to work) mostly for reading and web browsing. I have brightness on 40-50% usually (sometimes less, if the room is darker). The battery was just under 40% after 2 nights of use (maybe 40 hours after the last charge). Just guessing, but maybe 3 or 4 hours of screen on time?
Some online reviews mentioned the battery life is not as good as some other comparable devices (such as Nexus 7 and iPad Mini). Not surprising, since the Note 8 has a faster processor and higher resolution screen than either. And so far, battery life is not amazing, but seems comparable or better (better drain while idle) than my old HTC Flyer tablet. So for me, thats just fine.
I got about 4 hours screen-on time on my first battery cycle with heavy usage. Was playing games, movies, internet browsing, etc. My second and third cycles were better, giving me 5-6 hours screen-on time with moderate to heavy usage. Didn't really play any movies, but did play a fair amount of games and stuff.
On those later cycles my screen-on drain represented about 85% of my overall drain. This leads me to say that you can expect 4.5-6.5 hours of screen-on time with the Note 8, depending on usage. Keep in mind that I keep wifi always on, disabled bluetooth/auto-sync/smart stay, stopped some running apps like Maps and Factory Test, and kept brightness down to about 15% of the max setting.
Screen is definitely the big drain here, and these results lead me to believe that even with root and apps like Greenify I would not get much better results. Looks like any further battery savings will need to come from a custom kernel and custom rom (unless maybe you root and then underclock/undervolt using a third party app like Voltage Control or SetCpu). Anyone else have similar (or different ) results?
mingkee said:
The battery needs some initial "training".
Charge fully on the first and run it all the way down to nearly zero, and fully charge again.
DO NOT interrupt the initial charge.
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dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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:what:...XDA is for fun and for sharing; not for putting others down. Please be a little more respectful towards forum users when you post in the future. If you disagree with something then just explain so we can all learn together.
I am assuming the Note 8 has a lithium based battery. I couldn't confirm it though. The below link has some tips for how to care for different type of batteries. Useful reading.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tablets/how-and-when-to-charge-your-tablet-battery/814
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Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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While his terminology might have been a bit clumsy, he is not completely incorrect.
The terminology of "training the battery" invokes the concepts of conditioning the old technology NiCad batteries to prevent memory effects, which are not a concern with Li ion batteries, which is what you seem to be referring to. Folks on XDA will often talk about conditioning or calibrating the battery, which can be a bit misleading (as often they have the behavior of the old NiCad batteries in mind when saying this).
However, it is true that the battery meter needs to be calibrated to be completely accurate. This calibration has no chemical effect on the battery itself (like it does with NiCad batteries) but simply effects how the current readings are displayed by the % battery meter on the device's screen. Without fully charging and draining the device, it doesn't have fully accurate "flags" associated the current to battery %.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
Failure to calibrate the meter won't have a negative chemical effect, like failure to periodically condition a NiCad battery. And therefore it won't have an affect on the battery life. But properly calibrating will give you the most accurate % battery reading possible. The battery meter is not accurate out of the box, after a ROM flash, and an OTA may also reset the calibration.
As I've already mentioned in a previous response, I don't recommend draining the battery to shutoff. As doing so can lead to the battery no longer taking a charge, and the device no longer powering on. Its rare, but it does happen. Fully changing, then draining to 10% or so is enough. Full cycles are also not good for the long term life of the battery, although just doing it once every few months is still acceptable.
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kisrita said:
I am assuming the Note 8 has a lithium based battery. I couldn't confirm it though. The below link has some tips for how to care for different type of batteries. Useful reading.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tablets/how-and-when-to-charge-your-tablet-battery/814
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Pretty good link, thanks. And reinforces what I just said above.
Most any smartphone or tablet made in the past several years uses a Li ion battery. This confirms it: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_8_0_n5100-5252.php
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hertsjoatmon said:
Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
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The charger for the Note 8 is 2 Amps, while most MicroUSB chargers (at least for phones and other small devices) are 1 Amp. Although this varies, and there are other tablet chargers that are also 2 Amps; but these are far less common than phone charges that just about anyone with a phone that isn't Apple will have.
What this means is that the 1 Amp charger will charge the Note 8 very slowly. I tried mine on a 1 Amp charger just once so far. Left it on for maybe an hour, and the charge only increased by a few percent.
So yes, you can charge with most MicroUSB chargers in a pinch. But it will be slow.
hertsjoatmon said:
Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
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Don't get the physical plug of a charger confuse you - I believe this tablet needs a 2amp output from the charger, meaning just because your charger has the same end connection, it won't necessarily help you charge this battery. I've had my users come to me thinking their devices are defective because they somehow started charging their tablet with their Bluetooth headset charger.
Someone also mentioned the black wallpaper that might help with the battery consumption - I believe that is only helpful on AMOLED screens that Samsung has used on other devices.
I'm really still on the fence on keeping it after I bought this - I'm coming from a GT 7.7 which had excellent build quality,screen, and battery life. The loss of the AMOLED screen for both graphics and battery efficiency is bothering me. I put both up side by side and feel disappointed that Samsung couldn't just make a JB updated 7.7 with new CPU, 2GB RAM, and stylus with the same design and beautiful Super AMOLED Plus screen. It's not even the price - but just feeling like I'm getting a somewhat inferior device (in a few but important aspects) from the 7.7, when it's supposed to be an upgrade to the older device.
I've seen the news about an upgrade to the 7.7 possibly coming, but will it come with the stylus that is also important to me and the other software enhancements from the Note 8?
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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Funny thing happened on mine.
The battery was VERY BAD the second day, but it could play live streaming for two hours when the battery was 1%. As soon as the tablet went off due to depleted battery, I charged it until it went all the way until the "full battery" came up.
After that, the battery is much better now, so don't say anything "dumb" or any nonsense because it works.
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Someone also mentioned the black wallpaper that might help with the battery consumption - I believe that is only helpful on AMOLED screens
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That is correct, having a black background does not effect battery life on LCD screens.
On AMOLED screens, black pixels are actually not emitting light (while pixels displaying other colors emit light), which is why a black background will cause less battery drain than other colors.
On an LCD, the liquid crystal layer that depicts the colors is not itself a source of light. Its lit from the back, and the light intensity of the backlight is the same regardless of what color is being displayed. How much light is blocked or let though by the liquid crystal layer varies depending on their alignment (what color is being displayed). But this doesn't affect how bright the backlight is, anymore than pulling a window blind makes the sun burn less hydrogen.
Speedy Gonzalez said:
Battery life is great here after 5 cycles running it to 1% and recharging full at first it was draining faster but now I can watch 4 hours of netflix and still have 25% left nice thing is that the battery charges superfast so no worries
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Only four hours? My Nexus 7 averages about 10.5 hours of Netflix with 10% left. I wonder how other note 8's compare?
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HTC One Battery Extender Case?

So the battery life absolutely sucks on my One. If I start using it at 8am its dead by 5 pm. And that's just normal usage like surfing the web over WiFi, playing games (candy crush, dots, angry birds space,) maybe watching a few short videos over WiFi and the occasional text message. I have a battery saver app and I can see that it helps but I guess there's only so much it can do,Z so I want to get one of those cases that has an external battery built in. I have a few questions.
1. Does anyone here use one of these? Please give your input.
2. What's the best one? I've done a little research and found that the i-Blason and Mophie ones seem to be most popular. They're both a bit pricey.
3. How do they work? Does the phone just start directly using the external power after you switch it on, or does it just charge the internal battery?
4. Can these things have any kind of adverse effects on the internal battery from odd charging voltage or anything like that?
5. Do they actually extend your battery time as advertised? I'd be happy with getting two full days out of a single charge and some of these things are advertised as extending it by more that 1.5x. It seems like if the external battery is just charging the internal battery it would be a bit less efficient than if it were directly powering the phone. Does that make sense? It just seems like there couldn't possibly be a direct conversion of 2300 mAh from one battery to completely charge another 2300 mAh battery.
I hope that wasn't too confusing. Personally, I can't wait until lithium-sulfur batteries are in all our electronic devices (potentially 4x energy density.) Google it. Sounds promising.
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JGress said:
So the battery life absolutely sucks on my One. If I start using it at 8am its dead by 5 pm. And that's just normal usage like surfing the web over WiFi, playing games (candy crush, dots, angry birds space,) maybe watching a few short videos over WiFi and the occasional text message. I have a battery saver app and I can see that it helps but I guess there's only so much it can do,Z so I want to get one of those cases that has an external battery built in. I have a few questions.
1. Does anyone here use one of these? Please give your input.
2. What's the best one? I've done a little research and found that the i-Blason and Mophie ones seem to be most popular. They're both a bit pricey.
3. How do they work? Does the phone just start directly using the external power after you switch it on, or does it just charge the internal battery?
4. Can these things have any kind of adverse effects on the internal battery from odd charging voltage or anything like that?
5. Do they actually extend your battery time as advertised? I'd be happy with getting two full days out of a single charge and some of these things are advertised as extending it by more that 1.5x. It seems like if the external battery is just charging the internal battery it would be a bit less efficient than if it were directly powering the phone. Does that make sense? It just seems like there couldn't possibly be a direct conversion of 2300 mAh from one battery to completely charge another 2300 mAh battery.
I hope that wasn't too confusing. Personally, I can't wait until lithium-sulfur batteries are in all our electronic devices (potentially 4x energy density.) Google it. Sounds promising.
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1. I don't use these so I can't comment on this.
2. The iBlason and Mophie are the only ones available that I have ever seen. The Mophie being the higher quality (materials not necessarily battery life) of the two but also twice the price.
3. The phone will use the battery cases charge first then once that is drained use the phones internal battery. However if your phone battery isn't fully charged and you plug a charged case into it, it will charge the phone.
4. It's a good question and I'm not 100% sure. If you use it properly it shouldn't cause any major issues. Using it "properly" meaning your phone has full charge when it is paired with case so that the case isn't charging the phone. That being said, the damage is no different than someone constantly charging and discharging their phone in short bursts rather than using it until it's dead (or as close to possible) and then fully charging. The big thing to be aware of is that the damage caused is simply a reduced battery capacity and usually isn't big enough to notice during the life span of the phone (1 to 2 years).
5. Yes they do. Some of the claims may be a little higher than life experience, but nothing drastic. It litterally adds a second battery to your phone, so it IS going to extend the battery life quite noticeably.
One thing though, I have had my HTC One for a month or so now and have kept it stock, occassionally trying custom roms, but always going back. I have consistently been able to get over a full days use with WiFi always on, GPS always off, brightness always on auto, and I have exchange synced and set to push notifications. I am constantly checking email and texting for work as well as browsing the internet and Google Currents. I also have the power saver turned on. A full day use for me being from 8am to around 12am.
I think either something is wrong with your phone, you are playing too many games, or some setting or service is draining your battery. I would post your battery usage here for some to inspect. And it might be a good idea to uninstall the batter saver app, they usually don't make any huge dent on battery life that can't be done without the app, since most rely on a polling service that runs in the background and eat up battery life themselves. Just make sure your sync settings are reasonable (not every 5 minutes), turn off GPS and only turn it on when needed, don't turn on WiFi unless you need it, turn off 4G unless you need it (switch to CDMA only in mobile settings), enable eco mode (power saver that throttles CPU based on usage), and make sure brightness is set to auto or a medium to dim setting.
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Mostly right. I'll toss out though that cases have different current outputs-- the mophie cases will output at a high enough rate to cause a phone to register as being on AC. the i-Blason case charges at about a third of that rate, meaning that it'll trickle charge your phone/reduce power consumption rate, but it won't outright charge unless you're not using it.
JGress said:
So the battery life absolutely sucks on my One. If I start using it at 8am its dead by 5 pm. And that's just normal usage like surfing the web over WiFi, playing games (candy crush, dots, angry birds space,) maybe watching a few short videos over WiFi and the occasional text message. I have a battery saver app and I can see that it helps but I guess there's only so much it can do,Z so I want to get one of those cases that has an external battery built in. I have a few questions.
1. Does anyone here use one of these? Please give your input.
2. What's the best one? I've done a little research and found that the i-Blason and Mophie ones seem to be most popular. They're both a bit pricey.
3. How do they work? Does the phone just start directly using the external power after you switch it on, or does it just charge the internal battery?
4. Can these things have any kind of adverse effects on the internal battery from odd charging voltage or anything like that?
5. Do they actually extend your battery time as advertised? I'd be happy with getting two full days out of a single charge and some of these things are advertised as extending it by more that 1.5x. It seems like if the external battery is just charging the internal battery it would be a bit less efficient than if it were directly powering the phone. Does that make sense? It just seems like there couldn't possibly be a direct conversion of 2300 mAh from one battery to completely charge another 2300 mAh battery.
I hope that wasn't too confusing. Personally, I can't wait until lithium-sulfur batteries are in all our electronic devices (potentially 4x energy density.) Google it. Sounds promising.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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1. I've used one for about 2 days. I returned it. It works well and the Mophie definitely feels of high quality and feels great in hand. However it makes the sleek device very big and bulky.
2. I would recommend the Mophie purchased at your local corporate carrier store, reason being is that usually your carrier will offer a 1 yr warranty on a premium case like this. However if you break or it shows ridiculous wear and tear they wont. I cannot comment on I-Blason's warranty. Although I think the Mophie is perhaps more expensive. Some carrier offer discounts based on employer's of the account owner. So that might help get the case cheaper.
3. See comment below
4. Usually since they're molded directly to fit your device, most manufacturer's will accommodate the OEM's requirements. But the Mophie charges as fast as it would if you had plugged it into an AC charger.
5. This question is a bit more confusing for me to answer. All I can say is that if they advertise a 100% charge then that means they're matching the mAh capacity of the device. (Ex. phone model has a 2000mAh battery internal and the case advertises 100%, then that means the external battery is also rated at 2000mAh.) So in reality if you're expecting a complete 100% charge while your device is still on, then no, you may get from 1% up to 70-90% depending on how much you're using it while its charging.
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3. The phone will use the battery cases charge first then once that is drained use the phones internal battery. However if your phone battery isn't fully charged and you plug a charged case into it, it will charge the phone.
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This is not entirely true. Because the Mophie has an on/off switch. So if the case is set to off, it'll use the internal battery first, then you need to switch the battery case to on to begin charging the internal battery. It is entirely possible to use the phone till it completely shuts down when it run out of juice and the Mophie have a full charge.
It uses the same charger as the phone itself so the case never has to come off, however even if the switch is set to off it'll charge both items at the same time.
adamjamess said:
1. I've used one for about 2 days. I returned it. It works well and the Mophie definitely feels of high quality and feels great in hand. However it makes the sleek device very big and bulky.
2. I would recommend the Mophie purchased at your local corporate carrier store, reason being is that usually your carrier will offer a 1 yr warranty on a premium case like this. However if you break or it shows ridiculous wear and tear they wont. I cannot comment on I-Blason's warranty. Although I think the Mophie is perhaps more expensive. Some carrier offer discounts based on employer's of the account owner. So that might help get the case cheaper.
3. See comment below
4. Usually since they're molded directly to fit your device, most manufacturer's will accommodate the OEM's requirements. But the Mophie charges as fast as it would if you had plugged it into an AC charger.
5. This question is a bit more confusing for me to answer. All I can say is that if they advertise a 100% charge then that means they're matching the mAh capacity of the device. (Ex. phone model has a 2000mAh battery internal and the case advertises 100%, then that means the external battery is also rated at 2000mAh.) So in reality if you're expecting a complete 100% charge while your device is still on, then no, you may get from 1% up to 70-90% depending on how much you're using it while its charging.
This is not entirely true. Because the Mophie has an on/off switch. So if the case is set to off, it'll use the internal battery first, then you need to switch the battery case to on to begin charging the internal battery. It is entirely possible to use the phone till it completely shuts down when it run out of juice and the Mophie have a full charge.
It uses the same charger as the phone itself so the case never has to come off, however even if the switch is set to off it'll charge both items at the same time.
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I was not aware they had an on off switch, that would change the way the phone handles the device and give you a bit of flexability in how you use it, which is good.
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adamjamess said:
This is not entirely true. Because the Mophie has an on/off switch. So if the case is set to off, it'll use the internal battery first, then you need to switch the battery case to on to begin charging the internal battery. It is entirely possible to use the phone till it completely shuts down when it run out of juice and the Mophie have a full charge.
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I wonder if it would use the case battery first if you turned it on when both are 100% charged. Everywhere I've read, people seem to use them to charge the phone after the battery gets low. It would be great if the phone would just draw power from the case until it dies and flip over to the phone battery. I feel like that would keep the phone battery more healthy by avoiding inconsistent charging. If you're constantly killing the phone battery and using the case to recharge to less than 100%, then killing it again... it just seems like that would be bad for the battery.
Thanks everyone for the input! Keep it coming!
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I wonder if it would use the case battery first if you turned it on when both are 100% charged. Everywhere I've read, people seem to use them to charge the phone after the battery gets low. It would be great if the phone would just draw power from the case until it dies and flip over to the phone battery. I feel like that would keep the phone battery more healthy by avoiding inconsistent charging. If you're constantly killing the phone battery and using the case to recharge to less than 100%, then killing it again... it just seems like that would be bad for the battery.
Thanks everyone for the input! Keep it coming!
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Good question. My thoughts would be that the phone would only draw enough to keep topped off. So I guess if the switch is left to the on position the whole time you would get the desired effect of draining the external pack first. But I would guess that doing that would reduce the efficiency of the case somehow.
In the end whether your constantly killing and charging your battery no matter to 90% or 100% with the case or A.C. charger, doing it more often will kill your battery either way. Given lithium ion batteries are way more forgiving than the old cadmium based ones that built up a memory of sorts.
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To keep the battery healthy in a phone, make sure you charge to 100% each time. You don't need to fully drain battery, it's actually healthier to go from 50% to 100% than 1% to 100%.
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pewpewbangbang said:
To keep the battery healthy in a phone, make sure you charge to 100% each time. You don't need to fully drain battery, it's actually healthier to go from 50% to 100% than 1% to 100%.
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So if my phone only gets down to about 40% each night before I plug it in to charge all night I'm ok? In the back of my head I'm always wondering if I need to drain it all the way sometime.
Philmize said:
So if my phone only gets down to about 40% each night before I plug it in to charge all night I'm ok? In the back of my head I'm always wondering if I need to drain it all the way sometime.
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You are fine, it's better to not drain the battery all the time. It lasts longer if there's charge left. You just have to make sure your fully charging to 100% and not charging only to 70% or something like that. This is how lithium batteries work in all devices, laptops etc...
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And either way you wouldn't notice the loss in capacity until you at least 2-3 years out.
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So I've been thinking about this a lot over the past few days and I have something else i want to throw out there...
If you have your phone plugged in to a charger while at full charge, you can use it all you want and it will never go below %100. Does this mean that it's completely drawing power from the charger, or is it still drawing power from the battery, which is just constantly being topped off? Because I know I can completely remove the battery from my laptop and as long as it's plugged in to the charger, it will continue to function just fine.
If the phone is drawing 100% power from the charger, doesn't that mean that it would do the same for one of these battery extender cases?
Like I said before, I think that would be a lot more efficient that just using the case to recharge your phone's battery after it gets low. This way you sort of cut out the middle man.
BTW... I found that there was a weather app that I think was constantly trying to access my location even though I have location services turned off. I now get a good 10 hours of battery life with moderate usage. Still want a battery extender case. 2 full days would be awesome.
HTC battery life DOES suck compared what it can do because you are not going to buy a phone like this if you wont chat/text/call/email/play games alot. Mine lasts 10-15hours (usualy 2.5-3hours screen time and NEVER more than 3) and thats annoyng because its ok if im just ordinary home-work-home rezime but if i need to go out of the city for lets day 2-3 days - im screwed and allways must think about charging.
I have overlooked everything nothing wrong with the phone - the battery is just too small.
i keep wifi ,gps and bt off if i dont need them but my phone ofcourse syncs everything (thats the point of a smartphone - to be connected!) and i play often also.
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So I've been thinking about this a lot over the past few days and I have something else i want to throw out there...
If you have your phone plugged in to a charger while at full charge, you can use it all you want and it will never go below %100. Does this mean that it's completely drawing power from the charger, or is it still drawing power from the battery, which is just constantly being topped off? Because I know I can completely remove the battery from my laptop and as long as it's plugged in to the charger, it will continue to function just fine.
If the phone is drawing 100% power from the charger, doesn't that mean that it would do the same for one of these battery extender cases?
Like I said before, I think that would be a lot more efficient that just using the case to recharge your phone's battery after it gets low. This way you sort of cut out the middle man.
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Nope its being topped off, phones are all about maximizing space in the phone, it would require more wiring for the motherboard to be able to draw power directly from the micro usb port as well as the battery. For example, my Samsung phones can be plugged in but if I take the battery out the phone turns off.
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I got this one - all day w/o charging w very heavy usage. Traveling w/o signal - 2-3 days no charge. Makes the phone bigger and you can't see the gorgeousness of the phone, but it protects it all around and it lets those 4 cores and crazy display to do its job w/o dying on you fast.
This guy sells them for $20. Have seen them in other sites for $70-130. Same exact model.
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e1140...&exe=10013&ext=100025&sojTags=exe=exe,ext=ext
InterFace86 said:
HTC battery life DOES suck compared what it can do because you are not going to buy a phone like this if you wont chat/text/call/email/play games alot. Mine lasts 10-15hours (usualy 2.5-3hours screen time and NEVER more than 3) and thats annoyng because its ok if im just ordinary home-work-home rezime but if i need to go out of the city for lets day 2-3 days - im screwed and allways must think about charging.
I have overlooked everything nothing wrong with the phone - the battery is just too small.
i keep wifi ,gps and bt off if i dont need them but my phone ofcourse syncs everything (thats the point of a smartphone - to be connected!) and i play often also.
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You just don't know how to manage wakelocks. Do some reading. Mine lasts almost 2 days with 5 hours screen on time.
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1. I have the i-Blason black.
As a Case
Pros: Great volume controls, Black matches the black HTC One and the black earbud plug, kickstand, central USB plug.
Cons: Thick, Gets Warn when plugged in
3. There's a button that turns charging from the case on or off. Phone will be like it's externally charging.
4. The i-Blason is a lower current charging, so there's a warning that pops up. I think it's not harmful.
5. Extends, yes. But >1 day, no. Well, if you're not using the phone, yes, > 1day. What I do is I let it charge the phone when I'm not near a usb plug and it gets < 80%, then i let it trickle back to 100% in about an hour. It automatically stops charging the phone at 100%.
Learn how to manage your phone guys. Track down the offenders instead of buying these battery packs and other nonsense.
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Lg g3 battery drain issue [ Tried normal methods % have screen shots ]

Guys im sorry but i have rushed a few replies to get the 10 posts but can you please not take this down i need to know if this is legit as my money back only lasts a certain amount
Ok so i bought a lg g3 from ebay, Its legit i have tested with antutu officer but it can get really hot and battery drains very quickly when watching movies and games.
My screen usage is always above 60% but i have screen on 30 seconds and 0% bright. My phone also says that i have used like 1000 mah at 50% but it should say 1500 mah.
I have a d851 and marshmallow and use my phone only with wifi no gps/nfc i also dont have background apps
My phone gets 188 mins on gfxbench
Screenies
http://imgur.com/D95ABh1
http://imgur.com/G8I2tcS
http://imgur.com/LcM3NRe
http://imgur.com/st0GBFP
http://imgur.com/fi9ho9j
Sorry for structure of thread...
Is this normal guys
razakma16 said:
Guys im sorry but i have rushed a few replies to get the 10 posts but can you please not take this down i need to know if this is legit as my money back only lasts a certain amount
Ok so i bought a lg g3 from ebay, Its legit i have tested with antutu officer but it can get really hot and battery drains very quickly when watching movies and games.
My screen usage is always above 60% but i have screen on 30 seconds and 0% bright. My phone also says that i have used like 1000 mah at 50% but it should say 1500 mah.
I have a d851 and marshmallow and use my phone only with wifi no gps/nfc i also dont have background apps
My phone gets 188 mins on gfxbench
Screenies
http://imgur.com/D95ABh1
http://imgur.com/G8I2tcS
http://imgur.com/LcM3NRe
http://imgur.com/st0GBFP
http://imgur.com/fi9ho9j
Sorry for structure of thread...
Is this normal guys
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Why should it say 1500 mah? The screen is not the only thing that drains the battery, you know that, right?
Running any benchmark will cause many battery drain. Don't do that. And that app you have to see the cpu temperature, 42º is not high for CPU. For battery it is.
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Why should it say 1500 mah? The screen is not the only thing that drains the battery, you know that, right?
Running any benchmark will cause many battery drain. Don't do that. And that app you have to see the cpu temperature, 42º is not high for CPU. For battery it is.
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I meant the total of the battery is 1000 mah usage. But is it normal for screen usage to be 60-70 percent usage i use on low brightness aswell
Guys... Please help
razakma16 said:
Guys... Please help
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What help? Get a new battery or go away from Snapdragon devices. And, the screen usage is about right, because i don't know if you know, but the screen you are staring at is 1440x2560, or 2K, which is an insane resolution, and crammed in a 5.5 inch display at 538 ppi, it will consume A LOT. And the battery is just 3AH, which seemed much, but compared to the S5, with a 1080p display and a 2.6AH battery, the G3 has the worst SOT out of the 2014 flagship lineup.
西村大一 said:
What help? Get a new battery or go away from Snapdragon devices. And, the screen usage is about right, because i don't know if you know, but the screen you are staring at is 1440x2560, or 2K, which is an insane resolution, and crammed in a 5.5 inch display at 538 ppi, it will consume A LOT. And the battery is just 3AH, which seemed much, but compared to the S5, with a 1080p display and a 2.6AH battery, the G3 has the worst SOT out of the 2014 flagship lineup.
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The 2K screen doesn't consume that much power. There are mods which allow you to lower the resolution, but you won't see much or any increase in battery life or performance (maybe in games it's going to be most noticeable).
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Sounds like a bad battery. Quite possibly a reason why the other person decided to sell it in the first place. How old is the device that you purchases?
You can get an original replacement battery online for a few dollars. Just make sure you use a reputable vendor, like LG's official website.
engmia said:
The 2K screen doesn't consume that much power. There are mods which allow you to lower the resolution, but you won't see much or any increase in battery life or performance (maybe in games it's going to be most noticeable).
Sounds like a bad battery. Quite possibly a reason why the other person decided to sell it in the first place. How old is the device that you purchases?
You can get an original replacement battery online for a few dollars. Just make sure you use a reputable vendor, like LG's official website.
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Its brand new thats why i'm worried and i have downloaded a few battery checking apps and they say battery health is good.
But when i add up usage it totals lower then the battery capacity, they total up to 1000mah at 50%, when it should be 1500mah
Do you have any benchmarks i can try so i can see if its working right or its just me.
razakma16 said:
Its brand new thats why i'm worried and i have downloaded a few battery checking apps and they say battery health is good.
But when i add up usage it totals lower then the battery capacity, they total up to 1000mah at 50%, when it should be 1500mah
Do you have any benchmarks i can try so i can see if its working right or its just me.
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Oh so it's a brand new LG? How many hours of screen usage are you getting, what usage (web browsing, checking email or playing games?) and with what period of idle time.
Don't trust the numbers in the battery stats, especially in a new ROM. They are supposed to get better over time but I've found them to be wildly inaccurate even on months old ROM. I haven't really found an application you can benchmark accurately with.
But you compare with other (real) results on the foruns and rather you get the hang of what's the normal usage you should be getting out of a good battery.
Did you make a day without running any benchmark apps? What is your SOT? Standby time? Do you have location,wifi,bluetooth,NFC,mobile data on?
All of this matters. You shouldn't start right away with "I have problems with my battery" if you are running benchmark apps. Benchmark apps drains battery!
Wait a few days without running that apps and see how it manages. Another thing. The battery stats, the mah usage, not all of the things appears in the default android battery stats. And another thing, the battery value (the percentage of the battery), it is an approximation. Sometimes it could go up without charging, it is because it detected that has a wrong value. You could try charge your phone to 100%, usage it normally until 0%, until it turns off. Then charge it again to 100% and use it normally (don't discharge to 0% to many times, it just hurts the battery).
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Oh so it's a brand new LG? How many hours of screen usage are you getting, what usage (web browsing, checking email or playing games?) and with what period of idle time.
Don't trust the numbers in the battery stats, especially in a new ROM. They are supposed to get better over time but I've found them to be wildly inaccurate even on months old ROM. I haven't really found an application you can benchmark accurately with.
But you compare with other (real) results on the foruns and rather you get the hang of what's the normal usage you should be getting out of a good battery.
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I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
dcop7 said:
Did you make a day without running any benchmark apps? What is your SOT? Standby time? Do you have location,wifi,bluetooth,NFC,mobile data on?
All of this matters. You shouldn't start right away with "I have problems with my battery" if you are running benchmark apps. Benchmark apps drains battery!
Wait a few days without running that apps and see how it manages. Another thing. The battery stats, the mah usage, not all of the things appears in the default android battery stats. And another thing, the battery value (the percentage of the battery), it is an approximation. Sometimes it could go up without charging, it is because it detected that has a wrong value. You could try charge your phone to 100%, usage it normally until 0%, until it turns off. Then charge it again to 100% and use it normally (don't discharge to 0% to many times, it just hurts the battery).
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OK i will try but it think you misunderstood i just want to run a benchmark to check i dont run them in the background constantsly now that would be
razakma16 said:
I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
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Streamed from the internet with at least 1h10 SOT, that is not bad. That is almost 4 hours SOT. If you have 1h12 minutes SOT, that is 4 hours. It is good.
razakma16 said:
I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
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Oh yeah, considering you even streamed the movie, it's signs of a good new and healthy battery. 3 hours of SoT with internet browsing is quite the norm, and 4 hours is on the up side.
I can barely get to 2 hours of SoT with my now aging battery.
engmia said:
Oh yeah, considering you even streamed the movie, it's signs of a good new and healthy battery. 3 hours of SoT with internet browsing is quite the norm, and 4 hours is on the up side.
I can barely get to 2 hours of SoT with my now aging battery.
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There are a few things you can try if you are rooted to improve battery.
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There are a few things you can try if you are rooted to improve battery.
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It's not about the software side of things, it's about that my battery is old now, and that's why happens to old batteries, the just deteriorate.
Thankfully the LG G3 has an easily replaceable battery, and I have a replacement waiting for me. Not getting a phone on which you can't remove the battery..
And never found those apps like Greenify to really work, at least in the last few years of Android. The OS seems to be doing just of a good a job and I see no improvement in battery life. Maybe they help in cases with poorly written apps that are draining your battery in the background, but I don't see why would you use such a software in the first place.
engmia said:
It's not about the software side of things, it's about that my battery is old now, and that's why happens to old batteries, the just deteriorate.
Thankfully the LG G3 has an easily replaceable battery, and I have a replacement waiting for me. Not getting a phone on which you can't remove the battery..
And never found those apps like Greenify to really work, at least in the last few years of Android. The OS seems to be doing just of a good a job and I see no improvement in battery life. Maybe they help in cases with poorly written apps that are draining your battery in the background, but I don't see why would you use such a software in the first place.
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There are other things. Try to disable assertive display. You can disable logd. Turn of VoLTE. I use greenify because the aggressive doze.

How to preserve the battery over time?

Hi;
From JerryRigEverything's Teardown video I can tell that is not easy to replace the battery on the G7 plus if would void the water resistance and since I'll keep this phone for at least 2 years I have the following question about how to preserve the battery in the best conditions possible:
In order prevent the battery degradation, is it better to use: Fast or Wireless Charger?
Do you have any other advice regarding this topic?
3000 mAh isn't that great to begin with and if you add that it could get worse over time then it's better to take precautions. I wouldn't care that much if replacing the battery wasn't that hard. I mean it would require a good technician in order to get a proper reparation and I'm not sure I know one.
I apologize for the spelling or grammar mistakes, I'm not a native speaker and I'm still learning.
Charge whenever you can and dont let it go under 50%
The more you discharge it the chorter lifespan it get
Disable all crap you do not use.. When at home, and phone not used much. Turn off Wifi, BT, Location and even Data..
maydayind said:
Charge whenever you can and dont let it go under 50%
The more you discharge it the chorter lifespan it get
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According to what I've read. I think the ideal scenario would be mantaining the battery charge between 20% and 80%.
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Disable all crap you do not use.. When at home, and phone not used much. Turn off Wifi, BT, Location and even Data..
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Yes. That's exactly what I do with every smartphone I've own. I usually go heave on optimization of every single aspect regarding performance and battery life.
I use WIFI on, Data off, BT off, location off, auto brightness setting, Always on display off, no facial unlock, WhatsApp tweak to get only important notifications, the display is set down to 1080p instead of 1440p. When I play PUBG mobile I turn on Airplain mode and plug in headphones.
I purchased Acubattery. It has alarms that let you know if you are overcharged (more than 80% it says).
It also does a really good job of monitoring your current capacity and giving your hints on what is draining your device during the day. It will estimate your current battery capacity, which is nice if your phone shows they battery condition as Good (whatever that means Huawei Nexus p6).
Basically your battery is going to self destruct, but I find this app really gives you a good amount of information to make good decisions about how you use your phone.
I disagree with every advice here!
Check out my thread from my last phone :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz...ry-restore-t3796461/post76653346#post76653346
Been reading dozen of threads on diffrent forums regarding people complaining about their poor battery health, performance, etc.
Here are my advices to obtain near 100% battery health as years passes by (I have an galaxy s3 from 2012 with 90% and an LG g3 dual sim from 2014 with 92% ???), it all has to do with user behavior:
1. Avoid not charging to at least 95% then discharging it to near 0% (example: you charge it from 0 to 50 then you go outside and discharge it to near 0)
2. Avoid high usage for more than 3 consecutive days.
3. Drain SLOWLY from 100 to 0 once a week. This drain must be done at least in 1,5 - 2 days.
4. Charge from 0 to 100 with phone off at least 1 time / week
5. Every 2 weeks Let the phone discharge in 2-3 days, with minimal use, like just calling.
6. Repeat nr. 3 as much as you can
7. Avoid putting to charge when the phone is hot.
8. Avoid charging while using the phone.
9. Avoid fast charging.
10. From 100 to 70 and from 30 to 10 go slowly.
11. Never let it discharged 5, 10, 20 % more than 1 day
12. Never charge from 20, 30 to 100.
And many more will come.
Cheers.
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joser0913 said:
Hi;
From JerryRigEverything's Teardown video I can tell that is not easy to replace the battery on the G7 plus if would void the water resistance and since I'll keep this phone for at least 2 years I have the following question about how to preserve the battery in the best conditions possible:
In order prevent the battery degradation, is it better to use: Fast or Wireless Charger?
Do you have any other advice regarding this topic?
3000 mAh isn't that great to begin with and if you add that it could get worse over time then it's better to take precautions. I wouldn't care that much if replacing the battery wasn't that hard. I mean it would require a good technician in order to get a proper reparation and I'm not sure I know one.
I apologize for the spelling or grammar mistakes, I'm not a native speaker and I'm still learning.
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There are so many things that could affect your battery life over a 2yr period. I own both the G6 and G7 and the G6 still gives me pretty good standby and SOT after 2yrs.
General rule says you avoid fast charging wherever possible as this will affect battery over the long run. Avoid scenarios wherein the battery might overheat.
Also little things like simply living in an area with bad coverage will eat through your battery like nothing else.
If your worried about battery replacement, im fairly sure LG service centres do it for a pretty resonable price anyways.

Battery health with accu battery. New phone but not full capacity

Hello team
I'm coming with a question regarding the battery of the nubia read magic 5S.
I have been with the phone for less than one week and I am checking that the battery capacity is not the same as the one that is stated by Nubia. It should be 4500 mah but I have 4000 according to the accu battery app.
Can someone please double check this capacity in your phones?
Thanks
josehdx said:
Hello team
I'm coming with a question regarding the battery of the nubia read magic 5S.
I have been with the phone for less than one week and I am checking that the battery capacity is not the same as the one that is stated by Nubia. It should be 4500 mah but I have 4000 according to the accu battery app.
Can someone please double check this capacity in your phones?
Thanks
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the Capaacity on mine is quite good. i think less than 3% when full its 4370mah or around that the last time i checked.
its possible you've charged it at poor intervals. and maybe used a speed charger of some kind.
for the health of the battery and to test. do this for the next 3 or so days.
during the day try to get the phone to around 5% (no lower than 3%) try not to do this fast like with gaming heavy or whatever.
then connect to a slow charger 2 or 3 amps max. and allow to charge to 100% without using the phone. allow 10 minutes grace time after the phone is fully charged to allow the battery to cool a little.
then again use the phone as you would, up to 5% again. and repeat the process 3 times. then check your capacity. that will be your real capacity. if you follow those steps exactly.
Patrick Morgan said:
the Capaacity on mine is quite good. i think less than 3% when full its 4370mah or around that the last time i checked.
its possible you've charged it at poor intervals. and maybe used a speed charger of some kind.
for the health of the battery and to test. do this for the next 3 or so days.
during the day try to get the phone to around 5% (no lower than 3%) try not to do this fast like with gaming heavy or whatever.
then connect to a slow charger 2 or 3 amps max. and allow to charge to 100% without using the phone. allow 10 minutes grace time after the phone is fully charged to allow the battery to cool a little.
then again use the phone as you would, up to 5% again. and repeat the process 3 times. then check your capacity. that will be your real capacity. if you follow those steps exactly.
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Hey Patrick
Thanks for your feedback. You are kind of right about the fast charger. I iused the 65w PD usb of my Lenovo laptop which really charged the device at full speed.
I will post my results as soon as I can
Thanks again
Patrick Morgan said:
the Capaacity on mine is quite good. i think less than 3% when full its 4370mah or around that the last time i checked.
its possible you've charged it at poor intervals. and maybe used a speed charger of some kind.
for the health of the battery and to test. do this for the next 3 or so days.
during the day try to get the phone to around 5% (no lower than 3%) try not to do this fast like with gaming heavy or whatever.
then connect to a slow charger 2 or 3 amps max. and allow to charge to 100% without using the phone. allow 10 minutes grace time after the phone is fully charged to allow the battery to cool a little.
then again use the phone as you would, up to 5% again. and repeat the process 3 times. then check your capacity. that will be your real capacity. if you follow those steps exactly.
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Hello Patrick
I have done 3 slow charge discharge intervals and the data in the accu battery app remains that same
Actually maybe the battery is not damage cause the cycle is kind of good. Just trying to figure out what is the issue
See attachment
Thanks
josehdx said:
Hello Patrick
I have done 3 slow charge discharge intervals and the data in the accu battery app remains that same
Actually maybe the battery is not damage cause the cycle is kind of good. Just trying to figure out what is the issue
See attachment
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it may be best then to contact nubia or the seller you bought the phone from. if the battery is faulty or old is should be replaced. its very odd that the battery is not the rated 4400mah especially for a device that is just new. a small discrepancy like mine 2-3% is usually alright for something left in storage for 2-3 months after manufacture. but if you're past a large amount of capacity in such a short time, its possible that the battery is faulty and will need to be replaced.
do try other battery monitor apps incase your app is giving false readings. But I would contact Nubia about a warranty repair. if you bought it directly from Nubia, @JerryYin may be able to help forward your request.
Patrick Morgan said:
it may be best then to contact nubia or the seller you bought the phone from. if the battery is faulty or old is should be replaced. its very odd that the battery is not the rated 4400mah especially for a device that is just new. a small discrepancy like mine 2-3% is usually alright for something left in storage for 2-3 months after manufacture. but if you're past a large amount of capacity in such a short time, its possible that the battery is faulty and will need to be replaced.
do try other battery monitor apps incase your app is giving false readings. But I would contact Nubia about a warranty repair. if you bought it directly from Nubia, @JerryYin may be able to help forward your request.
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Thanks Patrick.
I have sent an email to nubia.
I will try additional charging cycles.
Thanks again for your support
Patrick Morgan said:
the Capaacity on mine is quite good. i think less than 3% when full its 4370mah or around that the last time i checked.
its possible you've charged it at poor intervals. and maybe used a speed charger of some kind.
for the health of the battery and to test. do this for the next 3 or so days.
during the day try to get the phone to around 5% (no lower than 3%) try not to do this fast like with gaming heavy or whatever.
then connect to a slow charger 2 or 3 amps max. and allow to charge to 100% without using the phone. allow 10 minutes grace time after the phone is fully charged to allow the battery to cool a little.
then again use the phone as you would, up to 5% again. and repeat the process 3 times. then check your capacity. that will be your real capacity. if you follow those steps exactly.
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Hey guys,
Long time accubattery user here.
You'll have to uninstall the app and re-install it before trying the above.
The estimates are not great for long term information but benefit more over long term (months).
If you want a fast reading, try the above but also check your estimated capacity on the main screen (charging), go to the bottom and you'll see it there. Make sure your phone is fully charged first.
My estimated capacity was 4000mah originally, but now I'm showing 4545mah (on the 5G, not 5S).
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Sam
Patrick Morgan said:
it may be best then to contact nubia or the seller you bought the phone from. if the battery is faulty or old is should be replaced. its very odd that the battery is not the rated 4400mah especially for a device that is just new. a small discrepancy like mine 2-3% is usually alright for something left in storage for 2-3 months after manufacture. but if you're past a large amount of capacity in such a short time, its possible that the battery is faulty and will need to be replaced.
do try other battery monitor apps incase your app is giving false readings. But I would contact Nubia about a warranty repair. if you bought it directly from Nubia, @JerryYin may be able to help forward your request.
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samussamus1 said:
Hey guys,
Long time accubattery user here.
You'll have to uninstall the app and re-install it before trying the above.
The estimates are not great for long term information but benefit more over long term (months).
If you want a fast reading, try the above but also check your estimated capacity on the main screen (charging), go to the bottom and you'll see it there. Make sure your phone is fully charged first.
My estimated capacity was 4000mah originally, but now I'm showing 4545mah (on the 5G, not 5S).
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Sam
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Thanks so much
May I ask what is your on screen time with a full charge and what screen frequency you are using?
josehdx said:
Thanks so much
May I ask what is your on screen time with a full charge and what screen frequency you are using?
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My screen on time is 5 hours 58 minutes, that's on 144hz always with the custom Kernel to overclock the GPU to 900mhz.
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Sam
Patrick Morgan said:
it may be best then to contact nubia or the seller you bought the phone from. if the battery is faulty or old is should be replaced. its very odd that the battery is not the rated 4400mah especially for a device that is just new. a small discrepancy like mine 2-3% is usually alright for something left in storage for 2-3 months after manufacture. but if you're past a large amount of capacity in such a short time, its possible that the battery is faulty and will need to be replaced.
do try other battery monitor apps incase your app is giving false readings. But I would contact Nubia about a warranty repair. if you bought it directly from Nubia, @JerryYin may be able to help forward your request.
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The battery capacity have a bug that will cause most of the software can't identity all the capacity. This should be fix in future update.
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The battery capacity have a bug that will cause most of the software can't identity all the capacity. This should be fix in future update.
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Thank you. I noticed that using aida app. Do you think the next update will have the hotfix?
Please fix these as well, thanks...
JerryYin said:
The battery capacity have a bug that will cause most of the software can't identity all the capacity. This should be fix in future update.
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Please fix:
1. Ongoing app notifications such as my weather app showing app icon instead of weather info, same goes for
other apps such as emails, missed calls, messsages etc. where it only shows app icons instead of proper info
2. DTS X crashes on bluetooth headphones everytime, works OK with wired, but come on, it's 2020, everything's
wireless these days.
3. Every few days you need to clear "Bluetooth system app's" cache otherwise it stops connecting with paired
devices.
4. Can't set up default apps at least not all of them
Thanks in advance.

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