I want to get this phone but might want to switch carriers soon. I was planning on doing the Sprint EasyPay for it and paying off the rest of the phone if or when I decide to switch carriers. After I pay it off in full and unlock it, would I be able to use it on T-mobile, AT&T, Verizon, or any of their MVNO's? Basically what I am asking is does the Sprint S6 support the necessary bands that the other networks operate on, and if so, would calling or texting still work? I have heard of some phones that have a SIM card slot for the LTE SIM on Sprint, but voice and text don't work once unlocked and used on another carrier.
Thanks,
Kyle
I would really like to know the answer to this as well. I have been searching without a definitive result.
Specifically, can unlocked Sprint phone be used on Verizon?
I'm having trouble finding out what type of dual SIM technology the 7T uses. Is it DSFA of DSDS? Will either one allow me to take a call from two different carriers at any time? FYI I'll be using Verizon and AT&T.
OP has always 'only' DSDS. So you can only make one call with one card at the same time.
The other card is disabled during this call.
Thank you for the info. If I am currently not on a phone call, the phone being idle, are both Sims able to receive a call at anytime?
yes, of course.
RobM87 said:
I'm having trouble finding out what type of dual SIM technology the 7T uses. Is it DSFA of DSDS? Will either one allow me to take a call from two different carriers at any time? FYI I'll be using Verizon and AT&T.
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Dual SIM technology? I'm on the T-Mobile variant. I'm confused.
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DSDS = Dual sim, dual standby, where you have two sims from two different carriers. When one SIM is active on a call the second goes idle. DSFA = Dual sim full standby, even if one sim is active on a call the other continues to function, although I am not certain of the mechanics of how a user handles two calls at once.
These are very popular with frequent international travelers, or when someone has a company phone and a personal phone but doesn't want to carry two devices. They really haven't caught on in the US because carriers for the most part have similar coverage and don't sell them. The carriers don't want their customers to be customers of other carriers too.
Imagine living in Belgium but frequently traveling to the UK and needing to use a mobile phone in both places. The roaming fees and long distance charges would be outrageous. With a dual sim phone a user could have a Belgium sim card and a UK sim card and be able to use the appropriate sim as needed without having to place the wear and tear on the phone doing sim swaps.
I have tried to find a dual sim phone which functions well in the US. I have a dual sim S9 from the UAE market, but for some reason the data is very slow compared to a single sim S9 for the US market. I also tried a Sonim XP8 which worked well enough until the phone figured out it was in the US and disabled the second sim slot. Apparently Sonim does not want the XP8 to function as a dual sim phone in the US.
T-Mobile has disabled the second sim card slot in the 7t, for whatever reason. I have a 7t coming from direct from the manufacturer and I am excited to see how well it works as a dual sim phone. I have a line on TMO and a line on AT&T, and I don't want to carry two devices if I don't have to.
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DSDS = Dual sim, dual standby, where you have two sims from two different carriers. When one SIM is active on a call the second goes idle. DSFA = Dual sim full standby, even if one sim is active on a call the other continues to function, although I am not certain of the mechanics of how a user handles two calls at once.
These are very popular with frequent international travelers, or when someone has a company phone and a personal phone but doesn't want to carry two devices. They really haven't caught on in the US because carriers for the most part have similar coverage and don't sell them. The carriers don't want their customers to be customers of other carriers too.
Imagine living in Belgium but frequently traveling to the UK and needing to use a mobile phone in both places. The roaming fees and long distance charges would be outrageous. With a dual sim phone a user could have a Belgium sim card and a UK sim card and be able to use the appropriate sim as needed without having to place the wear and tear on the phone doing sim swaps.
I have tried to find a dual sim phone which functions well in the US. I have a dual sim S9 from the UAE market, but for some reason the data is very slow compared to a single sim S9 for the US market. I also tried a Sonim XP8 which worked well enough until the phone figured out it was in the US and disabled the second sim slot. Apparently Sonim does not want the XP8 to function as a dual sim phone in the US.
T-Mobile has disabled the second sim card slot in the 7t, for whatever reason. I have a 7t coming from direct from the manufacturer and I am excited to see how well it works as a dual sim phone. I have a line on TMO and a line on AT&T, and I don't want to carry two devices if I don't have to.
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I had no idea. So if I but a dual SIM card tray and flash the international version software on my T-Mobile variant I should be able to have dual SIM functionality?
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I had no idea. So if I but a dual SIM card tray and flash the international version software on my T-Mobile variant I should be able to have dual SIM functionality?
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This has been done on other model phones and should be the same with this one. It was the same price point for me so I just cut TMO out of the deal. Just be careful flashing other firmware, if you are a TMO customer you wouldn't want to loose Band 71.
I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you
Cashreedhar said:
I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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That is very nice to hear. Does the phone work with other carriers once sim unlocked without changing the phone software? Does 5G work on other carriers too, if the bandwidths match? Thanks
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The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
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I may not understand much details of these modems, however my understanding is that there are some 5G bands common between carriers.
Verizon holds 76% of total available 28GHz spectrum bands and and 48% 39GHz 5g spectrum bands.
At&T holds 40% of 39GHz bands and Tmobile holds 12% of 28GHz bands. If I'm not mistaken the modem in Note 10 5G model supports 600MHz which is new Tmobile band. So, if Note 10 modem supports those 2 5G bands on verizon, technically it should work on at&t and t-mobile too? Although these may work in different cities as of now
Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
coilbio said:
Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
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In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
Cashreedhar said:
In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
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technically they wouldnt be blocking anything if they just dont include the antennae/functionailt.. its then up to the user to research and purchase if it suits their needs.
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After Verizon unlocked the phone, surprisingly 5G works with Tmobile without any modification. Of course not all the bands. Haven't had 5G signal so far and suddenly when I'm standing near a 5G antenna in downtown Manhattan, I had full signal
I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
Milyenair said:
I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
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nope.
the n976v only has vzw and gcf csc codes on it which both use the vzw sales code n network code.. changing carriers should work but on network as the csc should recognize this and load the correct apns n such but the bootani n vzw stuff is there to stay..
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Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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not odd.. its a vzw branded 5g device.. its hit or miss on other 5g networks.. they typically use different bands and frequencies and 5g variants dont contain full csc for other carriers like the non 5g devices
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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probably need root
CamachoDjr said:
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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Where did you buy this phone? I had the same issue, when I changed the code to GCF from VZW. I had to send the phone back to Samsung, as the local samsung experience store couldn't even understand the problem. GCF is for Samsung diagnostic purposes only and they had to change the motherboard board on the phone in order to fix the issue. If your carrier 5g mmwave band is one of the band used by Verizon, you'll be able to use 5G with this phone. I was able to use 5G in NYC with TMOBILE, but not when I moved to a different state.
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Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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I can relate the issue you're facing. I was using this phone with TMobile 5G in NYC, but when I moved to different state, I can't get the 5G reception. In order to understand this further, you need to understand the frequencies supported by TMobile and frequencies owned by Verizon. TMobile shares one of Verizon's mmwave band (only around 25%) and these antennas are limited to only few metro cities. Even if you live in one of those big cities, you need to stand close to the 5G antenna in order to get the 5G signal. I remember that I had to stand within 50ft from the antenna in order to get 5G signal (downtown Manhattan near Meridian Lane and Water st).
So I'm new to this. Ive got a Note10+ 5G from Verizon (SM-N976V). Ported over from Verizon to At&t. Works fine accept its on 4G LTE (no 5G... the Samsung S9+ went over to 5G no issues). I am told if I flash the phone to the unlocked firmware it should get rid of the Verizon "lock" and work. I have tried this as per help form Android Central however having no success flashing... I am not exactly that savvy with this stuff... Please help
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
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elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
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You can network unlock it pretty easily even if the phone isn't paid off yet. Download setedit by 4a from the play store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner
and change the setting "vzw_network_lock" from a 1 to a 0. You'll have to buy the expansion pack from 4a to have a foreground guardian that'll prevent it from going back to a 1.
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Hello,
I have done the searching hear and it seems that there is incomplete information at best.
I need a dual sim as I carry a work phone and a personal phone.
I don't want to lose my number so I want to get a minimal plan to receive calls and texts and work number must be ATT.
Currently, I am on Verizon. My understanding is that Verizon is going GSM so will it work in these two variants? Not that it matters, just wondering. Have no problem switching.
If I get these variants am I going to have to always use work around to get google services?
Is google assistant working or not?
Is Samsung and/or Google pay going to be dead?
Is my assertion that paying for the 9760 variant would be of no advantage to the 9750 as 5g will never work with the 9760?
Are these phones ACTIVE dual sim meaning I have two running numbers ACTIVE at all times. No switching.
Are there adapters that anyone knows of that I can covert my current Note 10+ US unlocked to ACTIVE dual sim?
Will I suffer much in Orlando with the missing bands?
I appreciate anyone's experience using these phones in the US market and thoughts/opinions on if it is worth it to switch or just explore Samsung alternatives.
Regards
Hey,
Here you can find some info https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/talk-chinese-version-note10-5g-t3991335/page5
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jackler1 said:
Hello,
I have done the searching hear and it seems that there is incomplete information at best.
I need a dual sim as I carry a work phone and a personal phone.
I don't want to lose my number so I want to get a minimal plan to receive calls and texts and work number must be ATT.
Currently, I am on Verizon. My understanding is that Verizon is going GSM so will it work in these two variants? Not that it matters, just wondering. Have no problem switching.
If I get these variants am I going to have to always use work around to get google services?
Is google assistant working or not?
Is Samsung and/or Google pay going to be dead?
Is my assertion that paying for the 9760 variant would be of no advantage to the 9750 as 5g will never work with the 9760?
Are these phones ACTIVE dual sim meaning I have two running numbers ACTIVE at all times. No switching.
Are there adapters that anyone knows of that I can covert my current Note 10+ US unlocked to ACTIVE dual sim?
Will I suffer much in Orlando with the missing bands?
I appreciate anyone's experience using these phones in the US market and thoughts/opinions on if it is worth it to switch or just explore Samsung alternatives.
Regards
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Both 9750 and 9760 are Dual SIM, 9750 is 4G and 9760 is 5G.
I'm not sure how it works with US service providers, however you can check here for the bands they support :
https://www.samsung.com/cn/smartphones/galaxy-note10/specs/ (N9760, don't forget to select Note10+ 5G)
https://www.samsung.com/hk_en/smartphones/galaxy-note10/specs/ (N9750)
On 9750, all the Google apps are pre-installed. On 9760, GMS framework is pre-installed but you need to manually install the apps, and I didn't manage to make Google location history work.
On 9750, maybe you can try Samsung Pay, but on 9760 it won't work.
Don't know if 9760 will work with 5G in the US, however in Europe it's fine. 9760 does not have mm Wave
For Dual SIM, there is an option called as "Dual SIM always on" that says : "Receive calls from both SIM cards. Some limitations may apply", maybe that's what you want.
9750 user here. Google Services is preloaded and working. Phone runs Dual Sim Dual Standby meaning both phone numbers can be reached at all times unless one of the sim is in-call. The option dual sim always on allows you set up call forwarding to the sim that's taking a call so that you can take the phone call from the other sim if needed. For data, only one sim card will be active, you will need to switch sim to use data on another sim. The main catch is that the phone is not compatible with LTE advanced in the US, so you might experience slower speed compared to the US Note10+
My phone N9750 csc BRI (taiwan) . All good
First of all let me say that before u answer this question I have about as much knowledge on this as a 75yo grandmother, so please keep it extra simple. Most of what I read on these forums might as well be Greek. I have an LG G7 ThinQ. More specifically the G710VMX. I purchased it unlocked and brought it to Tracfone, yes I use Tracfone. It worked with the original SIM card I had from another phone until it didn't, that's when the issues began. Bought a 3 pack VZW, T-Mobile, AT&T sim kit intending to use VZW because has the best service in rural areas. That sim would not work so ended up with T-Mobile sim and bad service. Assumed the phone was GSM only so I suffered. Then I tried to put in an AT&T sim to see if that would give better service and it's GSM so I thought it would work, well it doesn't. Somehow this is only compatible with T-Mobile and US Cellular which is CDMA(? since I assumed phone GSM only). Now Tracfone and T-Mobile reps both are telling me that once they switch to VoLTE the phone will no longer work, I will need a new phone. How is that possible?? I love this phone and hace read that it is capable of operating in VoLTE but the setting to turn it on is not there. And all other networks when given my IMEI tell me it's not compatible. HELP ME PLEASE, I can't afford, nor do I want, a new phone right now.
Turnhoo said:
First of all let me say that before u answer this question I have about as much knowledge on this as a 75yo grandmother, so please keep it extra simple. Most of what I read on these forums might as well be Greek. I have an LG G7 ThinQ. More specifically the G710VMX. I purchased it unlocked and brought it to Tracfone, yes I use Tracfone. It worked with the original SIM card I had from another phone until it didn't, that's when the issues began. Bought a 3 pack VZW, T-Mobile, AT&T sim kit intending to use VZW because has the best service in rural areas. That sim would not work so ended up with T-Mobile sim and bad service. Assumed the phone was GSM only so I suffered. Then I tried to put in an AT&T sim to see if that would give better service and it's GSM so I thought it would work, well it doesn't. Somehow this is only compatible with T-Mobile and US Cellular which is CDMA(? since I assumed phone GSM only). Now Tracfone and T-Mobile reps both are telling me that once they switch to VoLTE the phone will no longer work, I will need a new phone. How is that possible?? I love this phone and hace read that it is capable of operating in VoLTE but the setting to turn it on is not there. And all other networks when given my IMEI tell me it's not compatible. HELP ME PLEASE, I can't afford, nor do I want, a new phone right now.
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time will tell, you know just use your phone as long as it's still working. don't let marketing fool you
Well, the other issue is that I need to get it away from Tracfone T-Mobile because their service is terrible in my area. I can't seem to get either a Tracfone AT&T or Tracfone Verizon SIM to work yet the phone is compatible (according to the websites respectively) with Cricket wireless (AT&T) and US Cellular (cdma). I don't understand... That is why I brought this question to all of you. I live and work in a rural area and it may sound crazy but all I want to do is make stinking phone calls.