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Hey guys,
I got my brodit active car holder now for a few days and it seems it doesn't supply enough juice to the S2 while in use :-(
While navigating with navigon, it even loses charge, though it's connected .... that's really disapointing, since brodit normally supplies quality products.
Anyone else got the brodit active holder with the same problems?
boba
Not got the Brodit, but I have the same problem when using CoPilot and charging via the USB cable attached to a car charger. It can keep the charge at current level with CoPilot on, but will only charge with CoPilot off.
Also noticed if SII has less than 50% charge, it won't charge at all with CoPilot on.
Taking a punt on one of these to see if it makes a difference:
http://www.buyincoins.com/details/d...-for-ipad-iphone-4g-ipod-2a-product-2748.html
Which holder do you have exactly? Can you make a photo?
Does it toggle car dock in the S2? You can see a steering wheel in notification bar.
ALexander
I was thinking exactly the same thing this lunchtime. I have the cigarete lighter active Brodit mount and - if i makes any difference - a 2004 Vauxhall Astra H. I as wondering if I would have to turn off the nice things [like satellite view, etc] on the phone for it to survive the journey. Not happy.
boba23 said:
Well I don't know the exact reason yet, but it seems the S2 doesn't accept enough juice from the charger,
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Is the S2 in USB AC Mode?
Take a look here: Einstellungen - Telefoninfo - Status
Yesterday I modified a Brodit active car holder from the good old htc HD2 to fit the S2. Now I have fast charging (AC) and Car-Mode.
I currently own some chargers. Not the original one, well the UK Version with no use in Austria.
A 1A HTC Charger with USB socket, a 450mA noname charger with USB socket and a no name car charger with micro usb.
The car charger and the HTC charger show charging(AC) whilst the noname 450mA charger shows charging(USB)...
It would be interesting to measure the exact mA taken by the phone...
ALexander
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ALexander
Hi all,
Okay, I've now tried four different chargers, and I've also had the phone replaced. Today, in a last attempt, I bought an official Samsung charger.
NONE of them work - even though the phone says "charging on AC" for all of them.
The only thing I haven't tried is a different car (which I'm going to do, once my neighbour gets home).
The one sensible suggestion I've read is that Samsung have screwed up somewhere in software and the phone can't draw enough juice.
Electronics is beyond my little brain, so I don't get why the GS2 charges from my netbook (even when it's only on battery) but won't charge in the car.
And I'm not talking when I'm using satnav. It won't charge at all. In fact (weirdly) it actually DISCHARGES much faster than it does if it's just sitting in my pocket.
I've logged this with my provider (Voda UK), because I refuse to get stuck with a useless phone for the next 18 months if this isn't sorted out. It's ludicrous. If I can't charge the phone in the car it's as good as useless to me.
UPDATE:
Okay, I just tried my neighbour's car (Vauxhall Astra) and the GS2 charged perfectly. 3% in four minutes. Pretty much what I get off the mains charger.
I wish I knew about electrics but I don't. Explanations will have to come from the boffins round here.
I tell you what, though. I don't really want to get a new car just to use my phone properly
Do you have any chsrger with a led?
If the led stays dark the cigarette lighgter of your car might need a new fuse.
Which car?
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Ive ordered one of these mounts and will report how it behaves in my 2008 Civic
barneypooch said:
UPDATE:
Okay, I just tried my neighbour's car (Vauxhall Astra) and the GS2 charged perfectly. 3% in four minutes. Pretty much what I get off the mains charger.
I wish I knew about electrics but I don't. Explanations will have to come from the boffins round here.
I tell you what, though. I don't really want to get a new car just to use my phone properly
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You might be able to change to a higher amp fuse in your car fusebox.
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You might be able to change to a higher amp fuse in your car fusebox.
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ROFL!! Genius!
Brodit mount arrived and looks great. Fit and design excellent and seems to charge as I would want.
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So what charger do you guys advice? Which charger does charge the phone, even while navigating with Navigon?
I got the Brodit active charger (BR512...), there isn't a problem with charging at all.
I think the issue you got is really car related. My guess:
a) your cigarette lighter port is poorly wired -> Measure voltage at the port with a voltmeter, it should be at least 12V DC (Edit: Even if it does there is still the possibility that your wiring is bad, showing 12V doesn't mean it can handle the current this charger needs)
b) your cigarette lighter port doesn't make a good contact to the brodit plug. Check for corrosion of the contacts, dust, dirt, etc. Some ports go bad after lots of plug in / out cycles.
If you have no idea what I'm talking about here, I'm pretty sure every car mechanic can fix your problem for a small amount of money
Edit: it's very possible this plug works with other chargers and phones and still fails with the S2 charger. The reason for this is the different ways chargers convert the car's 12V DC into 5V DC. Some might work down to 7V input, some already **** up at 11.8V
I have the same problem with my GSII trying to charge it with my 12V Ipod adapter...
I just arrive from a short travel with my Citroën Xsara and i almost got lost cose the phone discharged all the time while using IGO on the phone...
I don't think this is car related because there are so many people with different cars having this problem... so... Samsung wants me to buy a new car to be able to use their phone in travels?
Hi guys, just thought I'd try to clear up a few of things:
1. All phones can use more power than they can draw. Note that the more apps you use, the more juice you draw depending on their features.
2. Not all CLAs are the same. Most modern devices will need 2amps, but the majority of CLAs on the market are 1 - 1.2amp units.
3. Your device will stop charging if it reaches a certain temperature, without giving you any further indication that it is too hot. This is a common scenario if you've got a phone on the dash giving guidance, with the sun rays beating a back. And yes this does mean dedicated satnav devices have a greater operational temperature range than phones, usually a 15-20 degree difference (celcius).
4. If the CLA is being tripped out due to poor isolation (a lot of cars suffer from this) it will also stop charging.
5. In general terms, the lower the battery level of the device, the more juice it pulls. This is why you may find you ha email no problems getting a small charge when you start with a battery at 85%, but your phone dies if the battery is 50% or less.
Hope that helps.
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OK, I have no idea what the problem is. I have a Brodit active charger (the cig-plug version) for my Galaxy SII. It's not charging my phone AT ALL. There is no sound, nothing displayed on my phone when I connect it. I have the charger led (blue light) on, so I know it's working.
Things I have tried so far:
1. Asked for a replacement from Brodit. Got it, no difference.
2. Tried with a different car (I have a BMW, my wife a brand new Toyota Auris) - doesn't charge it either.
3. Tried a different no-name universal charger - it works perfectly well, the phone is charging as expected. Other things like the GPS device also work fine.
4. Tried a different kernel and ROM on my phone, still no success.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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OK, I have no idea what the problem is. I have a Brodit active charger (the cig-plug version) for my Galaxy SII. It's not charging my phone AT ALL. There is no sound, nothing displayed on my phone when I connect it. I have the charger led (blue light) on, so I know it's working.
Things I have tried so far:
1. Asked for a replacement from Brodit. Got it, no difference.
2. Tried with a different car (I have a BMW, my wife a brand new Toyota Auris) - doesn't charge it either.
3. Tried a different no-name universal charger - it works perfectly well, the phone is charging as expected. Other things like the GPS device also work fine.
4. Tried a different kernel and ROM on my phone, still no success.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Thats strange, in the first place i thought a faulty micro-usb or charger. But you got it replaced so can't be the problem.
I have a brodit with charger too, but i use it in a different way, meaning i can remove my holder and unplug it without unplugging my charger. ( near my holder i have a small connector that i can unplug).
What i did is cutting the cable from the charger and i did put a male usb port on it ( regular male usb port) and i have a Belkin charger with a usb port, this charger deliver 1A charging current and charge my phone even when i use my navigation. ( with bluetooth and gps on).
Your phones micro-usb seems to be fine too because it charge with other brands of chargers.
Your BMW delivers enough power i guess at your cigarette lighter plug, because it doesn't charge at the Toyota either and both not delivering enough power would be coincidence.
Anyway mine works perfect the way i did it and if i can remember it worked too with my original plug attached too. ( though the original one doesn't provide enough power sometimes to keep it charged while using navigation).
The only thing i can think of is that there is some stress-pressure on your connection between phone and holder connection and that one pin isn't connected properly, with the universal charger you only plug the micro-usb plug in your phone and the micro-usb plug can adjust freely to your phones micro-usb port.
Try to wiggle a bit with your phone when in the holder and see if the power comes on. Or try to connect a little device on your holders micro-usb port ( if you have something small that charge over micro-usb) and see if that works.
i am looking for a decent [working, cheap and quick charging] car charger.
I know I'll need at least a 1amp [right?] however i have seen a few that charger at 1amp and 2.1amp
is it going to ruin my battery if i use 2.1amp?
anyone found and goodies out there?
thanks
I second this request, i've got a few generic car chargers from older gear that i've tried with the galaxy nexus. So far they all come up as charging via usb, and so the phone loses power when the navigation/bluetooth/etc/etc is all on. I understand the power requirements, and looked into the data-cable soldering malarkey solution, but my soldering skills in the "fire hazard" class at best so i'd much rather an off the shelf solution.
I'd be very grateful if anyone could point out a car charger that they know/strongly suspect works fine.
Cheers
so the same car charger i've been using for my nexus one for navigation won't work with the GNex?
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is it going to ruin my battery if i use 2.1amp?
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No, but it won't charge the battery faster either.
More amps is fine. Your phone will only pull what it needs, even if more amps are available.
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Also be aware that even though some car chargers state they can supply >1A current, some phones (like my Nexus One and Galaxy Nexus) will not recognize it as a high speed charger.
Smartphones and other devices check to see if the data pins (D+ and D-) are shorted or have a specific resistance before activating high-speed mode since normal USB data specifications say that devices should only pull <500mA from the port.
I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002IW79ZC/?tag=68656c7064757-20, which is supposed to supply 1A, but I when I plug my phone in with a normal USB micro cable, it says it's charging through "USB" vs "AC", where "AC" is the high-speed charging.
I've made a hacked cable adapter, though, which has the data pins shorted. When I use this with the car adapter, it charges at full speed. You should check to be sure that your phone is fully utilizing the charger by going into the Settings > Battery menu.
Hi all,
I thought I'd share how I've gotten on. There's a 2.1a charger that maplins sell that I thought might do it, but alas no - still comes up as "Charging(USB)". I know taFFer solved the problem with a little solder, and a lot of forum threads also suggest the same fix, but the last time I picked up a soldering iron actually ended with a trip to A&E (long, embarrassing, story) so I was still keen to find an off the shelf solution.
Anyway, after reading a lot more forums, I found a few different people recommending the same motorola charger. Amazon UK sell it, so I stuck in an order. Details below:
MOTOROLA P513 MICRO USB IN CAR CHARGER, £5.45*
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000S5Q9CA
*above item(s) sold by and shipped from Keep Talking
It arrived today and sure enough simply plugging it into the car results in it appearing as Charging(AC). I've not gone on a long enough drive to know about charging speed when gps/bluetooth/etc is all going, but if anyone else is after a cheap car charger that just works without hacking your own cable I think this is the one.
Cheers
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After criss-crossing the country over the xmas period i can tell you this charger is working fine for me. Even when using all the gps, bluetooth, screen on, etc that i can muster (while still driving straight!) the phone gains power and would often come out the car more charged than when it went in. The charger has one annoyance - they've built in a blue led to the charger which is lit up the whole time the thing is plugged in and thats kind of distracting, i don't really know what they were thinking with that, but otherwise i've no complaints.
nexuskettle said:
Hi all,
I thought I'd share how I've gotten on. There's a 2.1a charger that maplins sell that I thought might do it, but alas no - still comes up as "Charging(USB)". I know taFFer solved the problem with a little solder, and a lot of forum threads also suggest the same fix, but the last time I picked up a soldering iron actually ended with a trip to A&E (long, embarrassing, story) so I was still keen to find an off the shelf solution.
Anyway, after reading a lot more forums, I found a few different people recommending the same motorola charger. Amazon UK sell it, so I stuck in an order. Details below:
MOTOROLA P513 MICRO USB IN CAR CHARGER, £5.45*
*above item(s) sold by and shipped from Keep Talking
It arrived today and sure enough simply plugging it into the car results in it appearing as Charging(AC). I've not gone on a long enough drive to know about charging speed when gps/bluetooth/etc is all going, but if anyone else is after a cheap car charger that just works without hacking your own cable I think this is the one.
Cheers
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Thanks a lot for the news mate. I'll be getting one soon! Will you be able to post again when you find out how the charger works with gps etc. Thank you!
Anyone know if this charger works with the galaxy nexus (detected as AC?)
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-Dual-Charger-iPhone-Players/dp/B000RYSU7O/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
nomisunrider said:
Anyone know if this charger works with the galaxy nexus (detected as AC?)
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-Dual-Charger-iPhone-Players/dp/B000RYSU7O/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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For optimal charging, you need 1000mAh output. How much does this charger output?
I bought the below car charger because the cheap generic one I had from an old phone couldn't keep up with the drain from the screen when running sat nav.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290627400358?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
This also doesn't work, it loses a percent of charge every 10 minutes or so, while I'm aware this isn't alot and I can probably get anywhere in the UK on a full charge, the fact is I want my phone to actually be charging while it's plugged in as I don't always have a full charge and I may need it topping up on my journey in case I don't have another charging opportunity for a while.
I cannot find another genuine samsung product that claims to be compatible with the s2 (indeed the above "genuine" charger doesn't appear on Samsung's website.) There is one on their site (P10CBE In-Car Charger) however it claims to be only compatible with the galaxy tab. While I know it simply has a USB socket for use with any data cable, I'm worried it may damage the phone if rated too high in amps (700mA to 2A is a big jump.)
So I have 3 questions...
1) Is the tab charger safe to use, and does anyone else have this and can confirm it can keep up with the screen permanently on with google navigation running.
2) Can anyone suggest another brand that they have experience with it definitely keeping up with the charge on a galaxy s2, running screen etc.
3) I quite like the look of the official Samsung car mount, can anyone confirm if the charger included with this can keep up etc (also if you know what ampage it's rated to as I can't find this info on the product data.)
Many thanks if you take the time to reply to this, a bit lengthy I know.
lancemate
Use siyah's kernel to increase the charging current, how high you can go is anyones guess. Stock kernel supply's 450mA when plugged into a usb port and 650mA when plugged into a charger, i set mine to 800mA for both and all seems fine so far.
I have used a motorola car charger and this has actually worked better that the original samsung car charger, charges faster, and has a cool blue light. since the micro-usb is non-proprietary, you have lots of options.
Using an Official charger, better than those cheap ones that fail to keep the battery topped up while using the phone as a satnav.
I have a Sony Ericsson Original AN401 Compact Car Charger and it charges when using satnav.
The main problem with the cheap adapters is the output current, it tends to be too low for GPS. Make sure it is regulated & 750mah or higher.
I've had a mini 0806 hardwire kits (like one of these: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop=15&_nkw=mini+0806+hardwire) powering my dashcam for a while and was quite happy with it, so I decided to get the same one for my phone mount/Qi charger and while it supplies enough amperage to light a small LED on the charger it's not enough to actually charge the phone (and the charger works just fine with alternative power supply methods including the built in USB outlet and the cigarette lighter adaptors).
So I figure it's something in the converter that my Qi charger doesn't like and I'm after a better one.
Aliexpress has a variety of the converters starting from a little over $3 for a dual USB type which would be future-proof as I'd only need to replace the cable if I'll need to switch to a type-c in the future, namely Fulree and CPT-branded boxes: http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesa...Country=CA&needQuery=n&isRtl=yes&isFreeShip=y -- scroll down half-way thru the page.
Anyone has experience with either of those? I was thinking of ordering both and testing them out, however it's PITA for me to have them connected so I'd rather install one based on another user's feedback.
Can you guys recommend either option over the other?
Thanks!
Is there a fast (qi fast) charger for the car with decent retention? I really...really need one haha
Not cheap anymore, but the Samsung one is the best I have found. I have 4 of them in my fleet. Only thing is I recommend a 90 degree down bend micro USB cable for neater appearance.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NT5LDJ0/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EBGGXS2/
On a couple of cars, I bought the appropriate ProClip mount for the car, and then cut the arm off of the base of the charger, and JB Welded it to the Proclip mount.
Flame Red said:
Not cheap anymore, but the Samsung one is the best I have found. I have 4 of them in my fleet. Only thing is I recommend a 90 degree down bend micro USB cable for neater appearance.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NT5LDJ0/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EBGGXS2/
On a couple of cars, I bought the appropriate ProClip mount for the car, and then cut the arm off of the base of the charger, and JB Welded it to the Proclip mount.
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Reviews says it doesn't do fast charging. Can you confirm it does on the S8?
RMXO said:
Reviews says it doesn't do fast charging. Can you confirm it does on the S8?
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Sorry, I cannot confirm as my S8 is still yet to arrive. I very happy with them on the S6 and S7.
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Sorry, I cannot confirm as my S8 is still yet to arrive. I very happy with them on the S6 and S7.
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When you say you're very happy with them on your S6 / S7, does that mean they fast charge them? Please confirm if it does when you're S8 arrives.
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When you say you're very happy with them on your S6 / S7, does that mean they fast charge them? Please confirm if it does when you're S8 arrives.
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I believe both the S6 and S7 have in settings a check box to enable or disable fast charging. But does Android actually have a way of telling anyone when it is actually fast charging verses not fast charging? I never seen any messages like that. I have the other Samsung Qi charging pads - the one that is flat and the newer one that is a stand and never seen any messages indicating they fast charge. And even when I plug it in to the stock USB charger there is no indication it is fast charging. So how does one actually tell?
I bought this one. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JRTHAE8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It does fast charge, you get a notification when it charging.
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I believe both the S6 and S7 have in settings a check box to enable or disable fast charging. But does Android actually have a way of telling anyone when it is actually fast charging verses not fast charging? I never seen any messages like that. I have the other Samsung Qi charging pads - the one that is flat and the newer one that is a stand and never seen any messages indicating they fast charge. And even when I plug it in to the stock USB charger there is no indication it is fast charging. So how does one actually tell?
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It will say fast charging with a % and give an ETA to full
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I bought this one. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JRTHAE8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It does fast charge, you get a notification when it charging.
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Interesting, I bought that a while back and it didn't fast charge my Note 5 so I returned it. Plus the back doesn't support my setup so I didn't wait to test on the S8+.
Just used it last week. Gave the notification it was fast charging, and the time till full. Seemed to work great for me. Only problem I have is the vent clip doesn't work on the vents in my jeep.
That would be specific to the vehicle though
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When you say you're very happy with them on your S6 / S7, does that mean they fast charge them? Please confirm if it does when you're S8 arrives.
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My S8 Plus arrived today. The charger I recommended above does NOT provide any messages that it is fast charging but I was not using a factory Samsung charger. I switched it to a factory Samsung charger, but still the same. The cord I have to use not factory either because the factory one is too short and I have heard sometime those can cause the fast charging not to work. Seems pretty slow charging so whatever I have setup here is not fast charging capable it seems. So YMMV.
Easiest thing s do what I did. Find a Radio Shack going out of business, get a disc style charger and a Samsung fast car charger, gut the disc, cut it down and install it somewhere under a cubby hole or console. I did it in my Mercedes, first in the cubby hole under the stereo in a single DIN arrangement, then moved it to the arm rest in the console running a cable off the cigarette lighter. Car chargers aren't easy to find for Qi, so i got inventive and made my own.
I haven't been able to find a single car charger worth a damn, including the 80 dollar samsung. I'm thinking of the charging pad mounted in my console as well. Ugh wish someone would make a decent car charger that's wireless
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Like stated before, this one is fairly cheap for what it is. You get two style of mounts. If you have a jeep like me, you will probably have to use the window mount. When I used my rental last week which was a Nissan sentra the vent mount worked great.
It definitely does fast wireless charging as long as you use a compatible charge input. My radio didn't have enough output and did regular speed wireless charging. Used the cigarette charger output that came with it and tada fast wireless charging. As the pics show on my Verizon s8 plus
Pics of fast wireless charging
Any Qualcomm 2.0 adaptive fast charge works
Idk about it doing quick charge I'll check into it, but I've had this for 2 years in my car.
iOttie HLCRIO132 Easy One Touch Wireless Qi Standard Car Mount Charger for Qi Enabled Devices - Standard Packaging - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UXS7958/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-cvczb92EXNGD
I use the iOttie Qi mount and it works well.
I got this one yesterday. How can I prove or disprove that it is truly a fast charging wireless device? Should I let my phone get down to a really low percentage (and what would that be)? I'm happy with the setup. Long micro USB cord, both dash and vent mount (I'm using the vent mount, works fine in my Sienna). Even though I've only have it a day, it did top up my phone from 92% to 100% in a 5 minute drive.
Update May 8: when I put the phone in the charger it briefly indicates on the the screen that it is Fast Charging.
I'm really satisfied with this setup.
https://www.woot.com/offers/samsung-car-charger
Saw this this evening.
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I ordered this one today. I was looking for one that went in the vent and noticed it comes with a bracket for this. I went with the $40 3 coil version (probably over kill) but I was either paying $5 for one day prime shipping on the $30 one or pay $40 with free one day shipping for the "better" version. Figured $5 extra for the next level one wasn't going to kill me. I previously used the Scoche magnetic vent dock but it interferes with my wireless charging at home. Once I decided I needed a new dock for the car, I figured I'd go with a wireless charger to get the job done. Love that it also comes with the clips to organize the wire clutter a bit too.
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