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This Or Xperia Z Ultra

Looking Forward To Buy a new phone and i cam across this or Xperia Z Ultra (Sony Fan Already Own 3 xperia) So M Asking Here Is It Worth Getting?
And Some Of My Concern Are:-
1. No Glass Protection :- Is It Safe To Carry Coz I Drop Phones Often
2. Lag - I Heard The Phone Lags A Lots And Many Time Crash
3. Updates - Will The Phone Get Updates? And Does it Got Official Lolipop?
4. Less Accessories - Heard Dat Phone Has Limited Accessories Even cases Are Hard to Find?
5. IR Blaster - Does Ir Blaster Works Good?
6. Custom ROM Support - Does Developers Really Focuses On This Device As Its Not A Flagship.
7. Camera - How Was The Camera Performance?
And Does It Have Note 3 Features Like Air Gesture And Etc Etc?
Please Reply Quick As I Will Going To Buy New Phone In Few Hours . I Am Getting It At Nearby 270$ So is It Worths Buying?
Thanks And Please Reply If You Own the Phone

yaduvanshi said:
1. No Glass Protection :- Is It Safe To Carry Coz I Drop Phones Often
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I dropped the phone once without the case (Spigen), it bounced back with no damage. I wouldn't recommend using it without a case.
yaduvanshi said:
2. Lag - I Heard The Phone Lags A Lots And Many Time Crash
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Nope. Stock 4.4.2 here. Never crashed.
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3. Updates - Will The Phone Get Updates? And Does it Got Official Lolipop?
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Updates suck. Don't even know if we'll get Lollipop. Some people claim "leaked" documents suggest that we do. Wouldn't hold my breath.
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4. Less Accessories - Heard Dat Phone Has Limited Accessories Even cases Are Hard to Find?
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Yep, true. N3N is not a popular phone, ergo, not many accessories.
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5. IR Blaster - Does Ir Blaster Works Good?
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It works but there is no built in IR remote app. At least not in mine. LG phones have a capable IR remote app, which covers loads of devices (TVs, DVD Players even beamers). There are some apps in Play Store though.
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6. Custom ROM Support - Does Developers Really Focuses On This Device As Its Not A Flagship.
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If you compare what you get from a Sony device, Custom ROM support is non-existing. There are 3-4 ROMs, all have issues. Some people use it as a daily driver but I consider them "alpha-level" maturity.
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7. Camera - How Was The Camera Performance?
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Very good in bright conditions. Rubbish in dark/semi-dark environments. Also, don't even think about shooting a video if the subject isn't VERY WELL lit.
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And Does It Have Note 3 Features Like Air Gesture And Etc Etc?
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Yep, it does everything.
On another plus, the battery runs for 3 days with light-moderate usage. The screen is quite pleasant. Speaker output is nice. Very good WiFi rececption (my wife's iPhone loses connection where I still have 2 bars). Overall, it is a good, cheap phone if you don't care about updates and camera performance.

RecklessTurtle said:
It works but there is no built in IR remote app. At least not in mine. LG phones have a capable IR remote app, which covers loads of devices (TVs, DVD Players even beamers). There are some apps in Play Store though.
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lol i had watchon
and its much better than lgs ir romote app

timuralaskara said:
lol i had watchon
and its much better than lgs ir romote app
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Best application for IR blaster, for my, is smart remote, works fine !!

So Should I Get This Phone ?

yaduvanshi said:
So Should I Get This Phone ?
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We answered all of your questions, didn't we? The rest is up to you. Personally, I'd compare the screen qualities side-by-side with the Sony device. For me, AMOLED was a deciding factor, despite the fact that it is "just" a 720p display. I personally like looking at it

VR for P8 Lite

Hello. I really want to try VR, and i wanna know if i can connect an Vr to an P8 lite . And where i can buy one?

First of all there is no VR Glasses like Oculus or Vive that you can run with an android phone like the P8 Lite. But theres a solution by google called Cardboard which is a container for your phone that you can strap around your head.
I can recommend you this one if you want a cheap solution:
https://www.amazon.de/Magic-Cardboa...UTF8&qid=1468172240&sr=1-1&keywords=cardboard
And this one is a little more stirdy:
https://www.amazon.de/Pasonomi®-Car...UTF8&qid=1468172240&sr=1-3&keywords=cardboard
There is a lot more on the internet. Just do a quick google search. You can also buy them from almost any site not just amazon.

personal opinion!
Todescu Daniel said:
Hello. I really want to try VR, and i wanna know if i can connect an Vr to an P8 lite . And where i can buy one?
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Hi, If you want just to try a VR I refer you Cardboard VR. It will cost you around 2.5 - 3$, if you buy it from Ebay. However, its not that much comfortable!
I refer ebay to buy vr online because of wide range of varity and awesome rates, just surf it out!
Ebay link from where i bought mine!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIY-Cardboa...384312?hash=item51df0ae5b8:g:nAoAAOSwpRRWn28T
it doesn't include head strips to hold vr you have to buy it separatly,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/401115105297?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Bad idea to buy a VR since what I know about the P8lite (own one aswell) it doesn't have a gyroscope hence you won't have the same experience as with a phone which has one.

MonocleCat said:
Bad idea to buy a VR since what I know about the P8lite (own one aswell) it doesn't have a gyroscope hence you won't have the same experience as with a phone which has one.
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It has a gyroscope but you will have to enable it manually.

VenityZ said:
It has a gyroscope but you will have to enable it manually.
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It's just a virtual gyroscope, which doesn't work really well. That's why they disabled it.

devlerr said:
It's just a virtual gyroscope, which doesn't work really well. That's why they disabled it.
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Better than nothing for us the poor guys

timofonic said:
Better than nothing for us the poor guys
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How do I enable it.

Search sokkoban's blog, something like: blog huawei p8 lite, scroll down until you find flashable gyroscope zip

D1stRU3T0R said:
Search sokkoban's blog, something like: blog huawei p8 lite, scroll down until you find flashable gyroscope zip
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So I have to flash something to my phone. Id there another way because I haven't unlocked my bootloader. ?

No, you can only do it by flashing, and you need to unlock the bootloader.

I bought google cardboard for this phone, tested it and it's terrible... Up/down movement is okey, but left/right is a disaster... Shaking left/right even if I stay in place

MonocleCat said:
Bad idea to buy a VR since what I know about the P8lite (own one aswell) it doesn't have a gyroscope hence you won't have the same experience as with a phone which has one.
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You can, however, watch VR movies or stuff like that. There is a VR player in the playstore and you can select the option to use accelerometer+compass instead of the gyroscope.
(This requires no root access btw)

De EmperoR said:
You can, however, watch VR movies or stuff like that. There is a VR player in the playstore and you can select the option to use accelerometer+compass instead of the gyroscope.
(This requires no root access btw)
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Or you use the gyroscope update zip or flash a custom ROM. There actually is a gyroscopes​ but it's disable because it's bad.

Vinnipinni said:
Or you use the gyroscope update zip or flash a custom ROM. There actually is a gyroscopes​ but it's disable because it's bad.
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what gyroscope update fix ?

All kirin 620 powered devices don't have gyroscope. It's "emulated" gyroscope, not so good by it works.

Hey guys, even if the controlling movement terrible, is the quality (display) fine? Can I watch it at least at 720p or it is extremely blurred / pixelated?

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Hey guys, even if the controlling movement terrible, is the quality (display) fine? Can I watch it at least at 720p or it is extremely blurred / pixelated?
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It's very pixelated if you look closely like you should in vr... But eh... Cheap vr experience

D1stRU3T0R said:
It's very pixelated if you look closely like you should in vr... But eh... Cheap vr experience
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Thank you, sir.

And if I dont want the 360° VR experience but just the VR "virtual screen" sorry idk how to call it, i mean the fixed view of the smartphone screen, to browse, write or work on the smartphone. Is that possible? The resolution should be more than enought no?

[Q] Regarding VoLTE

Hey guys,
Having been here for sometime, I find development of our device is very slow. But there is progress. I mean the fingerprint was resolved, root was resolved. Almost all critical requirements are stable or near to stable.
Keeping that aside, may I ask why VoLTE is not available in any custom ROM? While it works perfectly with stock considering the fact that stock is actually near to stock Android.
With my previous device(Redmi note 3), a wonderful device, VoLTE bug was solved by restoring the correct Radio, Firmware and the EFS partition (mentioning so that it might become useful).
Will that method​ work for our device? I mean has anyone tried that? Or should we wait for official source release from Lenovo or is it that we've live without VoLTE ?
Sorry for the long post, Thanks for your patience.

Hi, we have Volte code in Lineage 14.1 intial builds.. but later its Gone..!
dont know why.. hope someone answers your question.. !

Not sure if developers are aware of it since majority won't use VoLTE. In the case of Redmi note 3, it's popularity in the Indian market (demanding Reliance Jio) forced devs to find a fix.
Well clearly that's not the case for P2. As we lack popularity and most ROMs are ported rather than built from scratch (I assume. pl correct me if I'm wrong). As a result no one has actually gone into it. If Lenovo has not released the source code then restoring some partition related the radio bands from stock ROM should solve the issue right? Atleast that was the case in RN3.

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Not sure if developers are aware of it since majority won't use VoLTE. In the case of Redmi note 3, it's popularity in the Indian market (demanding Reliance Jio) forced devs to find a fix.
Well clearly that's not the case for P2. As we lack popularity and most ROMs are ported rather than built from scratch (I assume. pl correct me if I'm wrong). As a result no one has actually gone into it. If Lenovo has not released the source code then restoring some partition related the radio bands from stock ROM should solve the issue right? Atleast that was the case in RN3.
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I am also skeptical to buy p2.The development is not great while RN3 has the best development I guess.Thats why I am stuck in between rn 4 and p2.

If you're crazy for developing then P2 is not for you. I prefer not to do any mods as of now cuz I'm doing all my experiments on RN3
So I bought this having no plans for development... Root yes... But custom ROMs... Nah... RN3 keeps me busy with that.. having said that, I wouldn't prefer RN4 just for the fact that it has better development. Look for other features too.. like the battery and display for instance... And camera too... Honestly I completely disagree with the fact that many complain the camera sucks... I don't really see a reason why as in its a Sony exmor sensor with an f2.2 aperture. Yes it's an f2.2 aperture so low light will be bad it's obvious. But under normal lighting, or sun it's perfect top notch.
Only feature they missed out was an image stabilizer. They could have added any image stabilization tool but then.. for the price it's pretty much over featured I'd say.
Goodluck

This is actually my first phone in a long time that I have no desire to root.
No bloatware to get rid of and have a nice non-root as blocker.

Siva Mk said:
If you're crazy for developing then P2 is not for you. I prefer not to do any mods as of now cuz I'm doing all my experiments on RN3
So I bought this having no plans for development... Root yes... But custom ROMs... Nah... RN3 keeps me busy with that.. having said that, I wouldn't prefer RN4 just for the fact that it has better development. Look for other features too.. like the battery and display for instance... And camera too... Honestly I completely disagree with the fact that many complain the camera sucks... I don't really see a reason why as in its a Sony exmor sensor with an f2.2 aperture. Yes it's an f2.2 aperture so low light will be bad it's obvious. But under normal lighting, or sun it's perfect top notch.
Only feature they missed out was an image stabilizer. They could have added any image stabilization tool but then.. for the price it's pretty much over featured I'd say.
Goodluck
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*F2.0

reality1234 said:
*F2.0
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Yehp f2.0 my bad... 2.2 is for the front one

Siva Mk said:
Yehp f2.0 my bad... 2.2 is for the front one
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I am actually deciding which to buy.This is for 13k at Flipkart but development is worrying me so I May go for note 4.What do you suggest?

reality1234 said:
I am actually deciding which to buy.This is for 13k at Flipkart but development is worrying me so I May go for note 4.What do you suggest?
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Like I said, I wouldn't normally put features above development, but considering this phone specs features and having used it, I'd definitely suggest P2.
But then there are other factors..
1. Bored to bones with MiUI
2. Redmi feels cheaper and delicate (not sure if I'm alone on this). Holding my RN3 and P2 I could easily pick P2.
3. Camera.. MiUI camera app is ugh.. there's no need for explaining I literally hate it.
4. I'm enjoying P2 without any mods.. not even​root. Clearly not my type.. but i was able to blend in..
That pretty much sums it up. Posts are bit lengthy because I've been through and did a lot of thinking... Hope I was able to help..
Bottom line, you want development go for RN4 else P2 however you can pretty much stay without rooting.
Another option is recommend is the zuk z2

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Like I said, I wouldn't normally put features above development, but considering this phone specs features and having used it, I'd definitely suggest P2.
But then there are other factors..
1. Bored to bones with MiUI
2. Redmi feels cheaper and delicate (not sure if I'm alone on this). Holding my RN3 and P2 I could easily pick P2.
3. Camera.. MiUI camera app is ugh.. there's no need for explaining I literally hate it.
4. I'm enjoying P2 without any mods.. not even​root. Clearly not my type.. but i was able to blend in..
That pretty much sums it up. Posts are bit lengthy because I've been through and did a lot of thinking... Hope I was able to help..
Bottom line, you want development go for RN4 else P2 however you can pretty much stay without rooting.
Another option is recommend is the zuk z2
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Thanks
I an getting more battery, amoled display,fast charging with fast charger and almost stock rom.Thats why I am leaning towards p2.AND i personally like p2'a design.Hope development catches up because 2 devs are here doing all the work for this device.I actually kinda feel sad that p2 didn't sell much.Lenovo should have advertised it.RN4 isn't that great in front of this device.And Xiaomi hasn't even released the sources for RN4 still it's so well developed.I really want this device,but I am a guy that flashes roms like every week.Trying out different roms is my passion:silly:.Had it been Moto P2 instead of Lenovo p2,You could have seen a lot more sales

Hello.
I have my P2 for a month, it is the first phone I do not try to root !!
I would like that LENOVO is a true follow-up on this P2. Better than they did to finalize Nougat 7.0.
As said above, if it to a default is the lack of photo stabilizer.
Can I expect a pass on Android 8.0 :fingers-crossed: ... A dream ?

Is there anybody working on "VOLTE Patch" ???

P2 - Worth buying?

I have some questions plz answer these -
1. Does it have 2.5 D glass
2. How good is the display i.e. are blacks deep like Samsung phones considering it has an amoled display
3. How is the build quality?Had any scratches
4. How good is development for this phone ,I mean I have Mi4 and still is well developed Can I expect these to be developed for at least 2 - 3 years.
5.Is camera that bad ?

1. No.
2. IMO yes.
3. Superb. No wiggle room anywhere.
4. TBH quite bad at the moment compared to other devices. It seems like progress is being made although very slowly. The stock ROM is decent enough to warrant using it in the meantime though.
5. It's bad. God... So bad.

The display is amazing, i didn't want to purchase another Amoled screen ever again since the Samsung Galaxy Nexus but this phone is worth it.
Even though the build is great with an all metal build.. you should still get a case and screen protector to keep it shiny.
I'm sure development will get much better, there is no rush. After reading around the forums it seems the Roms are usable.. but hey.. it is a lot better than the Dev for the Zenfone Max. They have troubles with no offline charging and phone doesn't turn on when battery reach 0%, so users have to keep it above 5% in order to not semi brick it. This device don't have those bugs.. so that's good. :laugh:
Also another good thing is that they have numerous Roms and am glad that they update the Lineage 13 Roms too, but Stock Rom is just as fine.
Until Lenovo fully stops updating soon; probably by September 2018.. using Custom Roms would be ideal to update when it happens. That would be my suggestion.

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1. No.
2. IMO yes.
3. Superb. No wiggle room anywhere.
4. TBH quite bad at the moment compared to other devices. It seems like progress is being made although very slowly. The stock ROM is decent enough to warrant using it in the meantime though.
5. It's bad. God... So bad.
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Hey, Thanks for clarifying

Wmateria said:
The display is amazing, i didn't want to purchase another Amoled screen ever again since the Samsung Galaxy Nexus but this phone is worth it.
Even though the build is great with an all metal build.. you should still get a case and screen protector to keep it shiny.
I'm sure development will get much better, there is no rush. After reading around the forums it seems some Roms are usable.. but hey.. it is a lot better than the Dev for the Zenfone Max. They have troubles with no offline charging and phone doesn't turn on when battery reach 0%, so users have to keep it above 5% in order to not semi brick it. So i see that this device don't have that so that's good. :laugh:
Also anotjer good thing is that they have numerous Roms and am glad that they update the Lineage 13 Roms too, but Stock Rom is just as fine to not use any custom Roms. I am sure development will get even better.
Until Lenovo fully stops updating soon; probably by September 2018.. using Custom Roms would be ideal to update when it happens. That would be my suggestion.
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Hey, Thanks bro
But I think Redmi note 4 which retails as same price has many more developers and roms and much more engagement.Thats why I am a little worried to buy this.Here I saw just 2 developers doing all the work.I respect their work.But still we are here lacking kernels etc.
Do u think lenovo will continue providing updates till September 2018.I don't think so.

reality1234 said:
Hey, Thanks bro
But I think Redmi note 4 which retails as same price has many more developers and roms and much more engagement.Thats why I am a little worried to buy this.Here I saw just 2 developers doing all the work.I respect their work.But still we are here lacking kernels etc.
Do u think lenovo will continue providing updates till September 2018.I don't think so.
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Good luck with the Redmi

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Good luck with the Redmi
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No I ordered p2 , amoled display,fast charging,better speakers,better battery attracted me so I didn'tt order redmi.It will arrive tomorrow.Welcome your new member

reality1234 said:
No I ordered p2 , amoled display,fast charging,better speakers,better battery attracted me so I didn'tt order redmi.It will arrive tomorrow.Welcome your new member
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Good to hear.
I got mines about a week ago.. am waiting on the bootloader unlock.

Wmateria said:
Good to hear.
I got mines about a week ago.. am waiting on the bootloader unlock.
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Hey can you tell me one more thing.Is the notification led RGB or single colored?

reality1234 said:
Hey can you tell me one more thing.Is the notification led RGB or single colored?
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You can set the color yes.

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You can set the color yes.
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One more thing is the home button made up of plastic or glass ?Are there any scratches on home button?

reality1234 said:
One more thing is the home button made up of plastic or glass ?Are there any scratches on home button?
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It feels like plastic. No scratches.

reality1234 said:
Are there any scratches on home button?
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No. This also works as fingerprint reader so I do not imagine it could work scratched.

i ordered my p2 yesterday.
really looking forward to my new phone.
let's hope development will be as awesome as for moto g 2014.

hplgonzo said:
i ordered my p2 yesterday.
really looking forward to my new phone.
let's hope development will be as awesome as for moto g 2014.
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Bro I have still not bought it. I want to but Development isn't picking up.Buggy roms are there.Moto and redmi phones have a much better Development.This is a great device:crying:

reality1234 said:
Bro I have still not bought it. I want to but Development isn't picking up.Buggy roms are there.Moto and redmi phones have a much better Development.This is a great device:crying:
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From a technical perspective it seems like a great device indeed. But you are correct. Moto & Redmi (I guess Huawei too) are more widely-spread. However (speaking for me and the local market) compared to the best available version of Moto G5, this phone has slightly better technical specifications (+1gb ram) for the same price.
Dude, I really hope, that I will enjoy this phone as much as my old G2 and my ancient Galaxy S. :fingers-crossed:

Why Redmi 5 Plus is my last Xiaomi phone ever ?

After having 3 Redmi phones i think i finally have enough.
Once i had Redmi 3S, Redmi 4X, then Redmi 5 Plus. I don't think i will buy a new one and here's why.
1) Well, they had great specs for their price, but they compromise durability by using cheap, weak and low-series aluminum to make their phones. That's why Mi5 and Redmi Note 3 failed Jerry's durability test. Basically, these are one drop phones. Europe is used to durable phones like Nokia, LG or Sony.
2) Software. My Redmi 3s had MIUI 7 out of the box, so i disabled some google poop i don't use and then updated to MIUI 8, unexpectedly bricking my phone for next 3 days until i was allowed to unlocked the bootloader, which was necessary to re-flash the device. MIUI 8 was great, had alot of features and MIUI 9 made things faster, but... My annoyance level is similar to dealing with Meizu phones. Some themes make unwanted changes to my home screen layout. Messenger notifications are quiet, just silent pop sound instead of normal messenger sound when screen is locked and off. On Redmi 5 Plus i had YouTube issue, where video as well as whole UI was freezing sometimes. This was ridiculous.
3) Ads ! Ads everywhere ! They started pop up in system apps such as Music, Videos , Themes and Settings after MIUI 9 update. Xiaomi, are you serious ? That is definitely unacceptable.
4) After MIUI 9.5 update themes app disappeard from my phone. To restore it, i had to change region to United States.
I switched back to Windows Phone.

JakeCherry97 said:
2) On Redmi 5 Plus i had YouTube issue, where video as well as whole UI was freezing sometimes. This was ridiculous.
3) Ads ! Ads everywhere ! They started pop up in system apps such as Music, Videos , Themes and Settings after MIUI 9 update. Xiaomi, are you serious ? That is definitely unacceptable.
4) After MIUI 9.5 update themes app disappeard from my phone. To restore it, i had to change region to United States.
I switched back to Windows Phone.
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I don't have any problem with YouTube
Also not have those ads on system apps. Maybe it's something from 3rd party app...
About themes app is something about new laws on European Union. Not have to keep region changed. Change to download and apply theme and then change it back to your country.

Actually, the Redmi 5 plus passed the bend test. Also I don't see any ads on mine, maybe you have the china version?

I do not see any of those issues as well. Also, if you have a problem with MIUI, you can always count on the great community and install an AOSP rom. It is your choice how you use your phone.

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After having 3 Redmi phones i think i finally have enough ....
I switched back to Windows Phone.
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The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.

Miui is cool. I have R5+ with xiaomi.eu rom, rooted with adaway app, and it's without any of these things.
Just read dude, it's not complicated to setup phone.
Other roms are also good choice, why not.

Only semi valid point is one, it's a freaking $ 150 dollars phone, so come on...
2. It's your fault for not learning to use settings properly, none of these problems are problems per se. Just you not getting used to your phone.
3. There are like 2apps that put ads on the system apps, and totally removable, even from the settings
4. Really? You just posted the solution to that problem.

lmao so instead of embracing the value Xiaomi devices and understand compromises you move over to an officially dead phone OS?

Redmi Note 5 is my first Xiaomi phone, and i can say that my next phone will 100% be Xiaomi again, why ? Because i had a Sony phone which i dropped from half a meter and the whole screen came out, couldn't be rooted and nobody bothered to make good roms for it. My note 5 has been dropped 3-4 times on hard cement, just the plastic part got scuffed. I haven't seen an AD during my use with stock MIUI , haven't had any freezes and i could give a rats booty about the theme app.

And now even we have got SOC 710 at 18000 price mi8se :fingers-crossed: :silly: which is seriously awsome :*)

You can deactivate the ads of the system in his settings on apps and system. Look tutorials in Xiaomi officcial forums.

DarthJabba9 said:
The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.
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A good build of LineageOS would be great. What do you recommend?

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A good build of LineageOS would be great. What do you recommend?
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At the moment, Liquid Remix or crDroid. When Validus settles down on Vince, and SlimROM moves to Oreo, then my eventual preferences would be (1) SlimROM, (2) Validus.

Nothing serious then? OP is just *****ing

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Nothing serious then? OP is just *****ing
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Vince is perfectly okay for the price. The problems he is experiencing are mainly with miui. Yes, the components are cheap - but you get what you paid for. For me, it is a brilliant phone. And so is mido. You just need to adjust your expectations. There is no point in having a champagne taste on a coca cola budget.

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The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.
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thats what i do, always
before buying a phone instead checking its review i just come on xda and see how good is development. and thats enough for me to make a decision.

Talwinder8872 said:
thats what i do, always
before buying a phone instead checking its review i just come on xda and see how good is development. and thats enough for me to make a decision.
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Yes, that is the way to do it.

Redmi Note 3SD, Redmi Note 4X, and now Redmi 5 Plus. Just awesome devices for the price! No problem whatsoever!

I think one of the main reasons I bought a xiaomi phone was to get a very decently specced phone at budget prices, unlock the bootloader of a xiaomi phone > install a custom rom > get a phone that's miles better than the competition at the same price range
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Yes, that is the way to do it.
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Also this, I also check if the phone has a snapdragon processor which increases the chances of getting more development done in the form of custom roms.

Mordar said:
Also this, I also check if the phone has a snapdragon processor which increases the chances of getting more development done in the form of custom roms.
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Yep. You don't want to go with the "other" SoC that Xiaomi often uses. I had about 5 different Xiaomi phones with that SoC, and their custom ROM support sucks big time (mainly due to lack of kernel sources).