Hello everyone
I have been experiencing force close after force on my Pixel 3xl. I ordered my pixel 3xl on launch day. A week after receiving my device I started to receive sluggish and force close after force in several different apps. I have never experienced android behaving this way. I started to notice that the phone would get sluggish when using Android Messages. When I am receiving an MMS message the phone will lag and then the message will come through. After messages started to act up, other apps such as; Flamingo for Twitter, Instagram and Google plus would force close. For starters I don’t run any app killers, or ram management. I thought the December Pie patch would fix the issue, but I still see it on a daily basis. I reset my phone, and less than a week later, I would see this same behavior. The phone is basically unusable. I contacted Google for an RMA. They processed it and the new phone is still acting this way. This is really odd this behavior would be happening to 2 phones. I have reset the new phone from google once. Not only is this behavior odd, but it would be really hard for me to believe I am the only person experiencing this issue. Thought about rooting it but don't know if that would even help.
Side note: I have noticed when in flamingo for Twitter or Android messages that the phone takes awhile to open or back out of a picture. Sometimes a white space will show near the upper part of the phone (both sides of the notch)
Any help would be appreciated.
kid1da said:
Hello everyone
I have been experiencing force close after force on my Pixel 3xl. I ordered my pixel 3xl on launch day. A week after receiving my device I started to receive sluggish and force close after force in several different apps. I have never experienced android behaving this way. I started to notice that the phone would get sluggish when using Android Messages. When I am receiving an MMS message the phone will lag and then the message will come through. After messages started to act up, other apps such as; Flamingo for Twitter, Instagram and Google plus would force close. For starters I don’t run any app killers, or ram management. I thought the December Pie patch would fix the issue, but I still see it on a daily basis. I reset my phone, and less than a week later, I would see this same behavior. The phone is basically unusable. I contacted Google for an RMA. They processed it and the new phone is still acting this way. This is really odd this behavior would be happening to 2 phones. I have reset the new phone from google once. Not only is this behavior odd, but it would be really hard for me to believe I am the only person experiencing this issue. Thought about rooting it but don't know if that would even help. Side note: I have noticed when in flamingo for Twitter or Android messages that the phone takes awhile to open or back out of a picture. Sometimes a white space will show near the upper part of the phone (both sides of the notch) Any help would be appreciated.
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Two phones exhibiting the same behavior? It has to be something you are adding (user apps and/or settings) as you set the phone back up. You said "less than a week later" you would see the same behavior- but that means for the first week it was acting normal, correct? Try running the phone in safe mode for a good while and see if the situation changes. If the issue goes away it will confirm it is one or more of your user apps is causing the issue. If it remains the same I would flash a factory image from fastboot mode and let the script wipe the phone (don't edit the script). This is different from a FDR (reset). Then when you set the phone back up add any user apps in stages, allowing a period of time between setting them up. Are there any apps you suspect? Any "non-market" apps? Rooting will not help you, so I would leave that variable out of it until you get the problem sorted.
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Two phones exhibiting the same behavior? It has to be something you are adding (user apps and/or settings) as you set the phone back up. You said "less than a week later" you would see the same behavior- but that means for the first week it was acting normal, correct? Try running the phone in safe mode for a good while and see if the situation changes. If the issue goes away it will confirm it is one or more of your user apps is causing the issue. If it remains the same I would flash a factory image from fastboot mode and let the script wipe the phone (don't edit the script). This is different from a FDR (reset). Then when you set the phone back up add any user apps in stages, allowing a period of time between setting them up. Are there any apps you suspect? Any "non-market" apps? Rooting will not help you, so I would leave that variable out of it until you get the problem sorted.
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I don't use Facebook or Snapchat, I know those apps are really tough on the ram, so I stay away from those. I don't install apps that aren't from the play store. The weird part is I've installed the same apps from my pixel 2xl. I don't install alot of apps to begin with. Ive researched people having issues with the Android messages app and there is a Google forum for this issue, however I installed Textra and I still see the issue just not as bad. During the last reset, I took days to install flamingo for Twitterand Instagram because I suspected them being the issue. Yesterday, I installed them and I started facing the issue. I uninstalled those 2 apps but the issue persisted. Now, it could be those apps but to me it would be a widespread issue if it we're those 2.
List of apps
Most Google apps. Gmail, maps etc
Instagram
Backdrops
Flamingo for Twitter
Navy Federal
Wells Fargo
Vanguard
Ally
Vip access
Hbo now
Netflix
Showtime
ESPN
Relay for Reddit
Nova launcher
kid1da said:
I don't use Facebook or Snapchat, I know those apps are really tough on the ram, so I stay away from those. I don't install apps that aren't from the play store. The weird part is I've installed the same apps from my pixel 2xl. I don't install alot of apps to begin with. Ive researched people having issues with the Android messages app and there is a Google forum for this issue, however I installed Textra and I still see the issue just not as bad. During the last reset, I took days to install flamingo for Twitter and Instagram because I suspected them being the issue. Yesterday, I installed them and I started facing the issue. I uninstalled those 2 apps but the issue persisted. Now, it could be those apps but to me it would be a widespread issue if it we're those 2.
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I still believe that because you experience this same issue across two different phones, it is something in your personal setup. No abnormal indications under battery usage or data usage (background or foreground)? As suggested earlier try running in safe mode for an extended period. If the problem is gone, you just work your way through the suspect apps until you find the offending one. You can also try resetting all app settings under System>>Reset options before resorting to a clean flash.
v12xke said:
Two phones exhibiting the same behavior? It has to be something you are adding (user apps and/or settings) as you set the phone back up. You said "less than a week later" you would see the same behavior- but that means for the first week it was acting normal, correct? Try running the phone in safe mode for a good while and see if the situation changes. If the issue goes away it will confirm it is one or more of your user apps is causing the issue. If it remains the same I would flash a factory image from fastboot mode and let the script wipe the phone (don't edit the script). This is different from a FDR (reset). Then when you set the phone back up add any user apps in stages, allowing a period of time between setting them up. Are there any apps you suspect? Any "non-market" apps? Rooting will not help you, so I would leave that variable out of it until you get the problem sorted.
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I still believe that because you experience this same issue across two different phones, it is something in your personal setup. No abnormal indications under battery usage or data usage (background or foreground)? As suggested earlier try running in safe mode for an extended period. If the problem is gone, you just work your way through the suspect apps until you find the offending one. You can also try resetting all app settings under System>>Reset options before resorting to a clean flash.
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I am going to try the safe mode method.
kid1da said:
I am going to try the safe mode method.
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Think Nova launcher. Back it up, uninstall it completely, then see how it goes.
I agree has to be a user app, my 3xl doesn't exhibit this issue. My crappy banking app does this but its very poorly optimized. App devs need to catch up to 9.0
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Think Nova launcher. Back it up, uninstall it completely, then see how it goes.
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I uninstalled Nova Launcher and did see a slight improvement. The issue came back a few days later though.
What about safe mode?
kid1da said:
I uninstalled Nova Launcher and did see a slight improvement. The issue came back a few days later though.
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It's not Nova Launcher. You mention slow picture access so I would be looking at apps in that direction. Any apps consistently FC more than others? Do you use cloud backup for Photos? Do you have any super large photo speres, panos, or RAW photos on your phone?
Edit: another thought would be to run a quick check on the non-Googly apps for "last updated" timestamp on the Play Store. You may be running an older app that hasn't been updated in years and is written with an outdated API.
v12xke said:
What about safe mode?
It's not Nova Launcher. You mention slow picture access so I would be looking at apps in that direction. Any apps consistently FC more than others? Do you use cloud backup for Photos? Do you have any super large photo speres, panos, or RAW photos on your phone?
Edit: another thought would be to run a quick check on the non-Googly apps for "last updated" timestamp on the Play Store. You may be running an older app that hasn't been updated in years and is written with an outdated API.
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The only apps force closing more than others are Android messages, flamingo for Twitter, and Instagram. It will start with Android messages, which causes the device to slow down, then the other apps follow by force closing. The device always seems to hang/lag when a group message is coming in. I only back up through Google photos on wifi. I combed through the settings and nothing stands out that could be causing the phone to force close these apps. For now, safe mode has the device working normal.
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So far today, my Evo has reset itself about 4 times. That is within the past hour and a half. I've had it since Monday and had no other issues with it doing this until today. The only app that was added in the past 24hrs was the Wireless Tether for Root app. I don't know what or why this is happening. I've just uninstalled Unrevoked, Superuser Permissions, the Overclock Widget, and the Wireless Tether to see if that is causing the issues. Anyone else have anything similar to this happening?
Also, I changed the "always on mobile data" setting to off yesterday. That increased my battery life dramatically. I was able to leave the phone on for a solid 11hrs with it still having 60% charge left. Then today, before I changed any settings at all, unplugging the phone from the charger for about 2hrs has resulted me in being down to 45% battery. Could mobile data always on being off cause the rebooting issue?
Same thing was happening to me when I unchecked that. Checked it back and all rebooting issues went away.
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Same thing was happening to me when I unchecked that. Checked it back and all rebooting issues went away.
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Since I posted that message I had two more reboots. Just ticked always on mobile data back on and am waiting to see if that stops it...
EDIT: No more reboots since reenabling mobile data always on...weird
I've had the always on data feature turned off since day one to conserve battery life and i had not experienced the random shut offs until yesterday. Since yesterday however my phone has restarted itself no less than 20 times. Several times while I was sleeping so this is defiantly a real problem but I dont think its related to settings. ill be contacting HTC tonight
I have had always data off, ticked it on this morn. And started getting the reset issue...
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Random restarts are often indicative of the battery not sitting in properly.
Remove the battery. Scratch up the contacts. Insert back firmly...
I am also having this same issue. I turned my phone off this morning because i wouldn't be using it and then i turned it back on in the afternoon and then my phone just started randomly restarting itself. There is no rhyme or reason to it. It has just been happening all by itself. It has probably happened 10 times in the last 4.5 hours.
I took the battery out for a minute and put it back in to see if it will stop the issue, but i'll have to wait and see. However, when i did turn the phone back on i got a weird pop-up message on the main screen that said something to the effect of, "Operational failure, please use su command." Then it faded away. Anyone know what that means?
As mentioned above, turning always-on mobile back on, took care of my restart issue.
heed316 said:
So far today, my Evo has reset itself about 4 times. That is within the past hour and a half. I've had it since Monday and had no other issues with it doing this until today. The only app that was added in the past 24hrs was the Wireless Tether for Root app. I don't know what or why this is happening. I've just uninstalled Unrevoked, Superuser Permissions, the Overclock Widget, and the Wireless Tether to see if that is causing the issues. Anyone else have anything similar to this happening?
Also, I changed the "always on mobile data" setting to off yesterday. That increased my battery life dramatically. I was able to leave the phone on for a solid 11hrs with it still having 60% charge left. Then today, before I changed any settings at all, unplugging the phone from the charger for about 2hrs has resulted me in being down to 45% battery. Could mobile data always on being off cause the rebooting issue?
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I'm getting the same issue. At first i thought it was ATK, so i uninstalled that. Then I though it was lookout, so I disabled that. But it still keeps happening. I have mobile data off too, but for days, and it hasn't affected it one way or the other.
The odd thing is, I was running xiiLive Lite last night streaming the radio all night, and my phone stayed up the whole time, while plugged in (at least 8 hours).
I don't know what the deal is, but my phone goes about 24-48 hours without a spontaneous reboot, and then it will start doing it 4-6 times a day. Anyone have a good logging tool would be nice, as I'm somewhat new to Android.
Thanks!
Tigger
tigger2u said:
I'm getting the same issue. At first i thought it was ATK, so i uninstalled that. Then I though it was lookout, so I disabled that. But it still keeps happening. I have mobile data off too, but for days, and it hasn't affected it one way or the other.
The odd thing is, I was running xiiLive Lite last night streaming the radio all night, and my phone stayed up the whole time, while plugged in (at least 8 hours).
I don't know what the deal is, but my phone goes about 24-48 hours without a spontaneous reboot, and then it will start doing it 4-6 times a day. Anyone have a good logging tool would be nice, as I'm somewhat new to Android.
Thanks!
Tigger
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I had mobile data off for a few days with no reset issues. Then I installed a few apps from the market (not the ones you mentioned) and then the resets started. I uninstalled the newest apps but the resets kept happening. Then I turned mobile data back on and no more resets in the last 24 hours.
my evo is randomly rebooting and I never modified the settings that some of you are talking about. My also gives me random issues where when i try to open an app it will open for a split second and close? I am also having my phone lock up on me several times a day and i have to pull the battery to reboot it! I took it back to the sprint store and they insisted on reloading the software on the phone and it made no difference.... does anyone have any suggestions or similar issues?
rooder said:
my evo is randomly rebooting and I never modified the settings that some of you are talking about. My also gives me random issues where when i try to open an app it will open for a split second and close? I am also having my phone lock up on me several times a day and i have to pull the battery to reboot it! I took it back to the sprint store and they insisted on reloading the software on the phone and it made no difference.... does anyone have any suggestions or similar issues?
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I had the apps closing after a split sec too but I found out that it was for apps that didn't play nice with the snapdragon cpu; like the Gameloft game Nova and a few of their other titles.
for me its stock apps like the navigator, video player etc. I am thinking i might have a defective unit.
rooder said:
for me its stock apps like the navigator, video player etc. I am thinking i might have a defective unit.
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Yup! That does sound strange! Did you root your phone? I'm rooted and all the stock apps that I've tried, seem to open and work fine.
nope! not rooted, 100% how it was out of the box. Luckily my pre was still active so i video taped it freezing up and stuff so im going to show the tech at the sprint store so hopefully they can order my replacement.
I also have a fully stock phone, some apps installed, but none recently, and yesterday it rebooted itself, twice more today.
I haven't changed the settings mentioned earlier, and haven't done anything I can think of that would cause the rebooting.
I am also having issues where I can't get an IP address on my wireless network, but I'm not sure it's related. I just noticed these 2 problems in the last 2 days, and it's the only thing I can think of that's out of the ordinary from the weeks prior to this happening.
I think I'll take it to Sprint tomorrow and see what they have to say.
Keep us updated on what happens. It seems to take a day or two for symptoms to start, but when they do it goes crazy rebooting!
...more discussion on this issue has been going on here too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702379
I'm not a professional android user and don't know much about it yet, but mine's rebooted a few times as well. I haven't rooted my phone but the ONE thing that seemed to have resolved the continuing issue is doing a hard reboot:
Menu > Settings > Privacy > Factory data reset
It's been 4 days and hasn't rebooted since.
EDIT: It's been 6 days now and still no reboots.
Angry Apps Eating my RAM!
I think what everyone is missing here that maybe the root of the problem is low memory.
I'm not talking about storage on the SD card. I"m talking about the memory the OS has to run.
I've fought long and hard with this low memory problem seeing as I have owned a g1 for almost 2 years.
THERE IS NO REASON THE EVO SHOULD EVER GET DOWN TO UNDER 30MB OF SYSTEM RAM!
I equate this issue to the same issue many people had with Windows computers and applications that start up in the system tray! We don't need most apps to run in the back ground on start up just in case I want to use it. The few seconds of time it shaves off of starting up the app is not worth the slower OS boot up (applies to Windows mainly) or the major slow downs they cause the OS's to have.
I don't need Sprint TV running on boot!
When I used a clean slate scene I still have all of these same issues. Random reboots, slow OS and apps, ect.
I have no idea why Android would allow that much RAM to be used for background apps. I don't understand why we have no way to see what programs run on boot unless using a 3rd party app.
Most apps are so crappy that they run in the background all the time and have no way to toggle if they run on boot and I'm not talking about apps that modify something all the time I"m talking about apps that ONLY need to be running once you open them. An example would be Swipe, I understand the need for that app to run on boot. It modifies the OS keyboard and would need to be running in order to work correctly when ever you enter any text field that pops up the keyboard for input.
An example of programs that don't need to be running on boot or should at least give you an option to toggle boot start up are; Sprint Navigation, Sprint Updater (No idea what this is for), Updater (Android?), Sprint Zone, doubletwist, SprintTV Widget (I'm on the clean slate profile with NO Widgets), VoiceMail (I use Google Voice, is this needed?), Sprint Football Live (It's not even Football season!), MP3 Store (I have yet to use on the EVO but is running just in case, thx), as well as many others.
I have 35 apps running in the back ground! WTF? Thanks ****ty app devs and bloatware Sprint!
Have fun try to find options for each app and figuring out each service to know what it's tied to so that you can have a phone that it powerful and run smoothly.
It really shouldn't be this hard or as much of a pain...
Reeves360 said:
I think what everyone is missing here that maybe the root of the problem is low memory.
I'm not talking about storage on the SD card. I"m talking about the memory the OS has to run.
I've fought long and hard with this low memory problem seeing as I have owned a g1 for almost 2 years.
THERE IS NO REASON THE EVO SHOULD EVER GET DOWN TO UNDER 30MB OF SYSTEM RAM!
I equate this issue to the same issue many people had with Windows computers and applications that start up in the system tray! We don't need most apps to run in the back ground on start up just in case I want to use it. The few seconds of time it shaves off of starting up the app is not worth the slower OS boot up (applies to Windows mainly) or the major slow downs they cause the OS's to have.
I don't need Sprint TV running on boot!
When I used a clean slate scene I still have all of these same issues. Random reboots, slow OS and apps, ect.
I have no idea why Android would allow that much RAM to be used for background apps. I don't understand why we have no way to see what programs run on boot unless using a 3rd party app.
Most apps are so crappy that they run in the background all the time and have no way to toggle if they run on boot and I'm not talking about apps that modify something all the time I"m talking about apps that ONLY need to be running once you open them. An example would be Swipe, I understand the need for that app to run on boot. It modifies the OS keyboard and would need to be running in order to work correctly when ever you enter any text field that pops up the keyboard for input.
An example of programs that don't need to be running on boot or should at least give you an option to toggle boot start up are; Sprint Navigation, Sprint Updater (No idea what this is for), Updater (Android?), Sprint Zone, doubletwist, SprintTV Widget (I'm on the clean slate profile with NO Widgets), VoiceMail (I use Google Voice, is this needed?), Sprint Football Live (It's not even Football season!), MP3 Store (I have yet to use on the EVO but is running just in case, thx), as well as many others.
I have 35 apps running in the back ground! WTF? Thanks ****ty app devs and bloatware Sprint!
Have fun try to find options for each app and figuring out each service to know what it's tied to so that you can have a phone that it powerful and run smoothly.
It really shouldn't be this hard or as much of a pain...
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This is where I am so lost with Android. I read many blogs saying Android does not need a task killer and using one will only make your system slow down. Well I tried one anyway because it's in my Windows Mobile nature to do so (old habits....). I noticed that I too had 35 or so apps running in the background and I thought that doesn't sound good, I wanna kill them all. But then what Android pros keep telling me is to let them be and that the OS will kill them as needed. But from what you're saying, it sounds like the OS doesn't always do a good enough job. So my confusion and learning process of Android continues......
My Fire Phone has developed an odd issue. I am hoping something more knowledgable on such matters might shed some light on what to do.
It started occurring a few weeks ago. Many apps would crash a few seconds after opening them. I figured out it appeared to only be apps that have some relationship to Contact data. SUch as WhatsApp, all contact apps, all phone apps, dialer apps, etc. Apps with no association to contact data are fine.
I ended up factory reseting the phone and starting from scratch. Installing GApps, etc., as per originally.
The issue seemed to be fixed. Sigh of relief.
Today I used the phone in the morning, and it was fine. I pick it up to use some hours later in the late afternoon, and the default launcher (which was Arrow Launcher) would crash every two seconds. I couldn't get access to the phone. Rebooting made no difference. I discovered I could still use the double-click on the home button to pull up the carosel, and there could click the system settings. After trying many things, I eventually used that method to uninstall the launcher. I had a few lunchers installed already, so I picked another launcher. The other launchers are all fine, so I thought the problem was solved. BUT when I open any app that accesses contact data it was back to the same old story... it crashes in a couple of seconds. I suspect the Arrow Launcher itself has some feature whereby it access contact data, and that's why it was also crashing every 2 seconds.
I found one other person posting what sounds like a similar issue, back in March. https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/help/crashing-apps-t3575127
Doesn't indicate what he/she discovered or did to fix it.
Can any suggest how I could trouble shoot this? I am resisting going through the lengthy process of resetting the phone again, and getting it all set up, because I already did that, and the problem spontaneously returned.
Reinstall your rom, search on amazon website
Has anyone else been experiencing random applications opening on the device after the Oreo Update? I have the VZW Varient so i dont know if that makes a difference but im interested to know others feedback
I'm on T-Mobile variant as well as on oreo and have not had such an issue. Which applications have been doing such things?
i've got the similar issue for my z2f EU (xt1789-06) and i'n with 7.1.1
app: amazon, yahoo auction JP, chrome
Hmm..I did notice a couple apps do that..
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Has anyone else been experiencing random applications opening on the device after the Oreo Update? I have the VZW Varient so i dont know if that makes a difference but im interested to know others feedback
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I've noticed it a few times. Nothing consistent. Probably just the Chinese government making tiny mistakes
Randon apps
Yes im experiencing the same problem with apps just opening over the top of what ever your doing. Apps that I haven't used in awhile. Would love to find out what is causing it
I don't have that issue. The application manager will opens temporarily when device reboots. The only bug I have found is that if I try to disable the amazon app my phone instantly reboots.
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I am on Sprint and have used this phone since Sept and never have experienced this, not even on Oreo since I updated on Tuesday.
just to add my two cents. I was having this problem. Turned off Moto voice security and I haven't seen this happen again.
I've got it too, can't figure it out. I'll have to try your suggestion JAWheat411, thanks!
Warning for those who are experiencing it: this bug has the capability to bypass screen locks. Opened up an app today that completely bypassed it. Interrupted my Spotify while at work and saw that app open instead. And I am sure that I locked my phone since I leave it on my toolbox, and don't want all my co-workers in my business.
I'm also having this very same problem. I will also try disabling Moto voice security and see if that rectifies the issue. I will report back in about 2 days.
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I'm also having this very same problem. I will also try disabling Moto voice security and see if that rectifies the issue. I will report back in about 2 days.
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lol, I'm late. I still have the problem. It's very random and hasn't been happening as frequently but it still happens.
Same on my Note 8. Very frustrating.
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Yes im experiencing the same problem with apps just opening over the top of what ever your doing. Apps that I haven't used in awhile. Would love to find out what is causing it
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This is exactly what is happening to my Galaxy S7 edge since the Oreo update. And it goes right past the lockscreen and my security. My phone is always locked, yet I find I've send a nonsense text, or pocket dialed someone, or that a gibberish email is half-composed, or that my calendar is open and a new nonsense event is half-entered. Somehow Oreo is doing all sorts of screen taps, or allowing my phone to wake up and let the pocket do that. And I have enabled the thing about disable touch when in pocket, and I've shut down smart unlock, but that hasn't made a bit of difference.
This problem is happening with my recently bought Moto Z2 Force. It started out random, but then became pretty consistent. I tried disabling the Moto actions (voice command, voice unlock and one button nav) but the problem kept happening afterwards too and became consistent.
It even opened outlook and managed to delete an important email from my boss that I hadn't read yet! Had I not been looking at my phone while it happened, I would have had one unhappy boss.
Even after unlocking the phone, it would just try random unlock codes for a while and eventually lock out the screen for 30 seconds, and then try again. Wouldn't even let me restart the phone. After struggling for more than 2 hours, I was finally able to restart in safe mode and the problem seemed to stop in safe mode. I disabled Moto actions app, deleted data from that app, and also just to be safe removed the HDR+ cam app that I ported. Planning to monitor for a couple of days and see what happens.
This sh!t is just bonkers!
I had my Pixel 2 XL since first release, running stock releases updated each month, stock kernel, and using Magisk. I also have a Pixel 2, configured exactly the same way as the 2 XL and the exact same apps. Apps are updated at the same time, same for patch releases. I carry both and use them interchangeably each day. They provide carrier/coverage diversity and allow for a longer day without charge.
A few days ago, with no known reason, my 2 XL started exhibiting a very strange lag behavior. In trying to resolve the issue, I have tried clearing Dalvik, flashing back to February, re-flashing March, and today flashing to April. I have also cleared certain app data and tried a custom kernel Nothing has helped. The problem does not exist on P2.
The lag I have observed so far:
1) I use the Google Calendar "agenda" widget. On boot, the widget is blank and shows "loading" and can take 10 or 15 minutes for the agenda items to populate (as opposed to immediately upon start up).
2) Playstore app updates: It downloads the app, but seemingly hangs and the update is VERY VERY slow.
3) On flashing the April patch, on first boot, the "Completing Android update" notification progress bar took about 45 minutes to complete (as opposed to a few seconds like it should).
4) I use Lightflow. On launching the app, I keep getting "app not responding" message. If I keep tapping "wait", it will eventually load. It is just loading VERY slowly.
I firmly believe that all of these issues are related to a single problem, like a system resource that causing these lags. At this time, I cannot update apps because it would take hours just to update one app.
I really don't want to do a factory reset if I can help it. Too many things to reconfigure, even with TiBu. Does anyone have any idea as to what might be the cause? I would really appreciate any input.
Thanks.
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I had my Pixel 2 XL since first release, running stock releases updated each month, stock kernel, and using Magisk. I also have a Pixel 2, configured exactly the same way as the 2 XL and the exact same apps. Apps are updated at the same time, same for patch releases. I carry both and use them interchangeably each day. They provide carrier/coverage diversity and allow for a longer day without charge.
A few days ago, with no known reason, my 2 XL started exhibiting a very strange lag behavior. In trying to resolve the issue, I have tried clearing Dalvik, flashing back to February, re-flashing March, and today flashing to April. I have also cleared certain app data and tried a custom kernel Nothing has helped. The problem does not exist on P2.
The lag I have observed so far:
1) I use the Google Calendar "agenda" widget. On boot, the widget is blank and shows "loading" and can take 10 or 15 minutes for the agenda items to populate (as opposed to immediately upon start up).
2) Playstore app updates: It downloads the app, but seemingly hangs and the update is VERY VERY slow.
3) On flashing the April patch, on first boot, the "Completing Android update" notification progress bar took about 45 minutes to complete (as opposed to a few seconds like it should).
4) I use Lightflow. On launching the app, I keep getting "app not responding" message. If I keep tapping "wait", it will eventually load. It is just loading VERY slowly.
I firmly believe that all of these issues are related to a single problem, like a system resource that causing these lags. At this time, I cannot update apps because it would take hours just to update one app.
I really don't want to do a factory reset if I can help it. Too many things to reconfigure, even with TiBu. Does anyone have any idea as to what might be the cause? I would really appreciate any input.
Thanks.
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I don't have a good answer for you my friend other than trying to run it in Safe mode for a while to see if it helps. Other than that, only other thing you probably can do is a factory reset, which, I know, bites the big one!
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run it in Safe mode for a while to see if it helps.
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Thanks for that suggestion! The only condition I was able to test was to update apps. It went fine in Safe Mode. I rebooted back into regular mode and app update would hang. Based on what I read, the culprit would be a 3rd-party app?
I looked through all the apps that were updated in the past few days and do not see an app that would have the sort of large impact. There is no abnormal CPU utilization. Keep in mind that my Pixel 2 has the exact same apps and are updated at the same time. It has no such issues. I'm still lost.
The only update that could have an impact is Google Play Services. I'm on beta 12.5.21. Again, no issues w/ Pixel 2. I assume others don't have issues, we would otherwise heard about it by now.
Edit: Does safe mode run the ROM version of the Google Play Services?
snovvman said:
The only update that could have an impact is Google Play Services. I'm on beta 12.5.21. Again, no issues w/ Pixel 2. I assume others don't have issues, we would otherwise heard about it by now.
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Yeah the only slowdown I've ever had was I think right before the February update. I never restart my phone or let it die so I had been 25+ something days of uptime. Restart was all I needed and it was the only 25+ days uptime that had any slowdown. I'm stock and only beta app I'm running is LastPass.
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My phone lags BADLY when I use Snapchat and facebook.
Considering the affected apps (Google Calendar agenda widget, Lightflow, Playstore "install" process, etc.). What do all these have in common?
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Considering the affected apps (Google Calendar agenda widget, Lightflow, Playstore "install" process, etc.). What do all these have in common?
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Did you ever figure this out?
I'm still on March and have started having this issue. It's related to charging the device. Whenever I charge (and even after pulling off the charger) Lightflow becomes extremely laggy. Also, installing apps from the Play store exhibits the behavior you described in OP. Interacting with notifications is very laggy as well (i.e. - tap a notification to open the corresponding app, and the notification disappears and nothing happens...then 2 minutes later the app opens). This goes on until a reboot. After that, everything is fine until I charge again. Which, fortunately for me, is only once every 3 days.
Was not having this issue until recently and have been on March for a few weeks.
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Did you ever figure this out?
I'm still on March and have started having this issue. It's related to charging the device. Whenever I charge (and even after pulling off the charger) Lightflow becomes extremely laggy. Also, installing apps from the Play store exhibits the behavior you described in OP. Interacting with notifications is very laggy as well (i.e. - tap a notification to open the corresponding app, and the notification disappears and nothing happens...then 2 minutes later the app opens). This goes on until a reboot. After that, everything is fine until I charge again. Which, fortunately for me, is only once every 3 days.
Was not having this issue until recently and have been on March for a few weeks.
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I have not, unfortunately. The Playstore app install has, for the most part, resolved itself, but the hang does return from time to time. Lightflow is still a problem. I wrote the dev but there is no response. The other issue is the Google Calendar agenda widget. It takes 10-20 minutes to load on reboot. Mind you, the month widget works just fine.
Take a look at these threads:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-z-force/803793-calendar-widget-doesnt-load-data.html
https://forums.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl/855985-screen-widget-loading-8-1-boot.html
They describe similar issues. I've also found other, similar observations but with no resolve.
I am on April and have tried a custom kernel. No joy.
Edit: Since I cannot test the calendar widget nor Lightflow in Safe Mode, I don't know if it actually is a system-related issue.
Edit 2: I do see a strange connection with charging, especially with Playstore installations and lags.
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I have not, unfortunately. The Playstore app install has, for the most part, resolved itself, but the hang does return from time to time. Lightflow is still a problem. I wrote the dev but there is no response. The other issue is the Google Calendar agenda widget. It takes 10-20 minutes to load on reboot. Mind you, the month widget works just fine.
Take a look at these threads:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-z-force/803793-calendar-widget-doesnt-load-data.html
https://forums.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl/855985-screen-widget-loading-8-1-boot.html
They describe similar issues. I've also found other, similar observations but with no resolve.
I am on April and have tried a custom kernel. No joy.
Edit: Since I cannot test the calendar widget nor Lightflow in Safe Mode, I don't know if it actually is a system-related issue.
Edit 2: I do see a strange connection with charging, especially with Playstore installations and lags.
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The only widget I use is the Fit step counter. That has always taken a minute or so to even show up on the home screen after a boot (8.0/8.1) for me. I don't feel it's related to my issue as that has persisted through all software versions I've used so far.
I'm beginning to think the lightflow issue is just that....a lightflow issue and it is affecting notifications, globally. And, it is somehow tied to charging state. I've seen lightflow do some weird crap over the years. I remember a simple gmail update caused lightflow to send my then device (htc tbolt) into constant reboots.
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I'm beginning to think the lightflow issue is just that....a lightflow issue and it is affecting notifications, globally. And, it is somehow tied to charging state. I've seen lightflow do some weird crap over the years. I remember a simple gmail update caused lightflow to send my then device (htc tbolt) into constant reboots.
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Well sir, you are EXACTLY correct. Based on your ideas, I disabled Lightflow and rebooted my phone. All was back to normal. Once I re-enabled LF, the problems came back. Thank you very much for pointing out your observations. I would have not considered LF to be the source of the problem, but it is now so clear. Again, I can't thank you enough (I'll "thank" both of your posts)!
I will try clearing the LF data to see if that solves the problem. I will report back.
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Well sir, you are EXACTLY correct. Based on your ideas, I disabled Lightflow and rebooted my phone. All was back to normal. Once I re-enabled LF, the problems came back. Thank you very much for pointing out your observations. I would have not considered LF to be the source of the problem, but it is now so clear. Again, I can't thank you enough (I'll "thank" both of your posts)!
I will try clearing the LF data to see if that solves the problem. I will report back.
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Light Manager might be a viable alternative for you if LF doesn't play nice for you. Works great without any lag issues :good:
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Well sir, you are EXACTLY correct. Based on your ideas, I disabled Lightflow and rebooted my phone. All was back to normal. Once I re-enabled LF, the problems came back. Thank you very much for pointing out your observations. I would have not considered LF to be the source of the problem, but it is now so clear. Again, I can't thank you enough (I'll "thank" both of your posts)!
I will try clearing the LF data to see if that solves the problem. I will report back.
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Well, that's not exactly the news I wanted to hear lol.. I've tried light manager before and didn't like it at all. Light flow is kind of a crucial app for me. I guess I will just charge the device in the off state. Everything works fine until it gets charged overnight.
Now that you've sort-of confirmed light flow as the cause, I wonder if it might have to do with the charge state hooking. Do you have charging/charged profiles set up in light flow? If it's as simple as removing those, I could deal. I'm at work so can't really afford to test it right now.
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Well, that's not exactly the news I wanted to hear lol.. I've tried light manager before and didn't like it at all. Light flow is kind of a crucial app for me. I guess I will just charge the device in the off state. Everything works fine until it gets charged overnight.
Now that you've sort-of confirmed light flow as the cause, I wonder if it might have to do with the charge state hooking. Do you have charging/charged profiles set up in light flow? If it's as simple as removing those, I could deal. I'm at work so can't really afford to test it right now.
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I first endured the slowness and made a LF backup. Then 1) I cleared the data and rebooted the phone without launching LF, the phone restarted normally, calendar widget was fine, 2) launched LF and granted notification access, restarted phone, all was well, 3) restored from LF backup, restarted, all is still well and LF launches fine. Corrupted data?
At least I'll know what to do next time. For your similar issue, just make a LF backup, clear data, reboot, restore, and hopefully it resolves the issue for you. Let me know.
Edit: Regarding your question on charge state hooking--I had LF running for many years and on the Pixel 2 XL since new. The problem only surfaced recently. My Pixel 2 is also fine. I would guess that there was bad data somewhere. Like I wrote above, a reset/restore brought everything back as before.
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I first endured the slowness and made a LF backup. Then 1) I cleared the data and rebooted the phone without launching LF, the phone restarted normally, calendar widget was fine, 2) launched LF and granted notification access, restarted phone, all was well, 3) restored from LF backup, restarted, all is still well and LF launches fine. Corrupted data?
At least I'll know what to do next time. For your similar issue, just make a LF backup, clear data, reboot, restore, and hopefully it resolves the issue for you. Let me know.
Edit: Regarding your question on charge state hooking--I had LF running for many years and on the Pixel 2 XL since new. The problem only surfaced recently. My Pixel 2 is also fine. I would guess that there was bad data somewhere. Like I wrote above, a reset/restore brought everything back as before.
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Yeah, I went through all of that last week. I went from the newest version back to the last known stable (for me) version. I always keep a back up of the settings txt file as well as a TiBu file. My current version (previous stable) was installed from scratch.
Everything was fine for the first two or so weeks on March build. This just started after I applied the libs from the multi-touch fix. I removed that as I had hoped it would be related to the phantom swiping when scrolling (I don't game on the device) but it doesn't seem to be related the swiping. At first I thought that module was causing the issue as it started the day or two after adding it. That's the only change I have really made since setting up the March build. Not sure why it would just start out of the blue when it had been working fine for at least 2 weeks before.
I'll try some things over the next few days. First thing is going to be removing the charging profiles from light flow and see if that makes a difference.
Have you tried hooking up the charger since cleaning your data?
If removing charging profiles doesn't help, I'm going to reflash March build (removing -w from batch file) to both slots, redo twrp, elx kernel, magisk. I may do this anyway, even if removing charging from light flow fixes it.
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I'll try some things over the next few days. First thing is going to be removing the charging profiles from light flow and see if that makes a difference.
Have you tried hooking up the charger since cleaning your data?
If removing charging profiles doesn't help, I'm going to reflash March build (removing -w from batch file) to both slots, redo twrp, elx kernel, magisk. I may do this anyway, even if removing charging from light flow fixes it.
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I have connected/disconnected a generic charger twice and once connected to a PC (slow charge). So far, still all good. The problem began in late/mid March. The April patch did not solve the problem. I am using Magisk. Stock/ElementalX made no difference. I will see if the problem resurfaces.
The likely cause that there are code issues with LF. I had LF slow down regardless of charger connection so I'm curious to know if removing the charging hooks help. I'm on the latest version.
Just curious--what not go to the April patch?
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I have connected/disconnected a generic charger twice and once connected to a PC (slow charge). So far, still all good. The problem began in late/mid March. The April patch did not solve the problem. I am using Magisk. Stock/ElementalX made no difference. I will see if the problem resurfaces.
The likely cause that there are code issues with LF. I had LF slow down regardless of charger connection so I'm curious to know if removing the charging hooks help. I'm on the latest version.
Just curious--what not go to the April patch?
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I'm an "if it ain't broke" kinda guy. Everything except the phantom swipes has been perfect on March build. At this point I'm convinced the swiping issue is due to LG and therefore nothing to be done about it. I'm getting too old to flash a new ROM every week like I used to
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I'm an "if it ain't broke" kinda guy. Everything except the phantom swipes has been perfect on March build. At this point I'm convinced the swiping issue is due to LG and therefore nothing to be done about it. I'm getting too old to flash a new ROM every week like I used to
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Gotcha! Since my last post, I have connected/disconnected charger five times. Each time with several minutes of wait time in between. I have also tested functionality while the charger is plugged in. All still good.
One side note, I have noticed, with many phones, that strange and undesirable things happen when you connect the charge while the phone is mid-boot. In my situation, the LF problem may have surfaced because of that.
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Gotcha! Since my last post, I have connected/disconnected charger five times. Each time with several minutes of wait time in between. I have also tested functionality while the charger is plugged in. All still good.
One side note, I have noticed, with many phones, that strange and undesirable things happen when you connect the charge while the phone is mid-boot. In my situation, the LF problem may have surfaced because of that.
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Well for me I was just charging normally. Hope it holds up for you. If so I'll do a clean install again and setup from scratch.
Try clearing excess text messages and cache for apps. A friend of mine had thousands of text messages and social media buildup, and the phone got very slow and buggy, especially the camera app. After deleting thousands of texts, switching to Textra, clearing the app cache for frequently used apps, the phone is back to very fast again.
My Pixel 6 Pro has a similar problem ever since the Mar 5 update has been installed. Since then, every phone call I made comes with the non-stop notification tone literally every second. For now, I managed to get around it by enabling the "DND Mode", but it isn't a long-term solution.
Is there a way I can re-apply the same update? or flashing a new one would help?
To be clear, you're saying that you keep getting the notification tone even after answering the call? If so, is it the same as your ringtone?
Is your bootloader unlockable? If so, Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own).
It wouldn't surprise me if that doesn't fix the issue, however. Have you tried rebooting? Maybe clear the cache and app data for the Phone app (but then you'd have to re-customize the settings for the phone app to your preferences).
I'm not on the March update, but I also don't receive many phone calls anyway.
that notification tone, during normal time, represents incoming message. It is very short, unlike a ringtone..
Tried rebooting and clearing cache and app data of the Phone app. In fact, that notification could likely come from anything like WhatsApp, Messenger, Twitter...
I noticed that the repeating tones would not happen if the phone is on silent mode. So for now this is my workaround.
Very interesting, and strange. There have been settings in some OEM's phone apps you could enable to get notification tones at regular paces - usually once a minute - while on a phone call, but the issue on yours is only similar since it's constant / every second.
I stick with my recommendation of clearing the app cache and data for the Phone app. I also assume you're using the stock Phone app that Google provides.
In my previous phone (OnePlus 6T), the very same tone happens once in a while, but only at the moment an incoming message arrives. Pretty sure I am not getting a new message every second this time around, and I think it was triggered by apps other than the Phone app. I just noticed that the same symptom showed up when I tried to play video clips from certain apps as well.
And yes, I am using the stock Phone app.
Sounds like a factory reset and only selectively installing and configuring apps, or trying to figure out which app is causing the issue.
If you factory reset, I would first not even restore any apps at all, so you can verify if you have the same problem without any third-party apps installed at first. I would suspect you won't have issues then. And then when you install apps, do it in groups of your most important ones first, maybe at the most 10 at a time, then re-verify each time if you have the same issue or not, then the next batch of app installs. It could be a particular setting in a app as well, so it's possibly merely installing an app might not be enough, so each group of apps you install, make sure and configure them as well.
If you don't factory reset, go the opposite way, uninstall your least important third-party apps and see if the issue disappears. Keep track of which apps you're uninstalling in each group. Keep doing this in reasonably sized groups of apps until you narrow down when the problem stops happening.
Once you find which group of apps being uninstalled keeps the issue from happening, you can reinstall in even smaller batches, among the ones you most recently uninstalled, and eventually find the one causing the issue. In some ways I think it's easier to go the other way around, though, start with a factory reset.
Found the culprit!
Kind of silly: I have installed this app "Internet Speed Meter Lite" when I first started using my P6P, which is for me to monitor my real-time network usage (courtesy of that endless WhatsApp - Google Drive restoring process....). It basically refreshes itself every second and this morning I tried temporarily disabling it, the problem goes away even when the phone is not set to silent mode.
Glad I didn't have to come to the point of factory resetting the device, as I really don't want to go through the WhatsApp restoring process.
Thanks for all the input, much appreciated.