We all love using custom rom's to improve our device. But every now and then I will go back to stock rom. Why?
Samsung make great apps!
I make a backup of various stock apps and then try to install them on the custom rom. It doesn't work.
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How can I get stock apps to run on custom rom's?
meekspace said:
We all love using custom rom's to improve our device. But every now and then I will go back to stock rom. Why?
Samsung make great apps!
I make a backup of various stock apps and then try to install them on the custom rom. It doesn't work.
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How can I get stock apps to run on custom rom's?
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The depths to which Samsung (for better or for worse) customise the Android OS on thier devices is what allows them to so deeply integrate thier own apps into the OS. This is what allows them to have proprietry features such as the S-pen recognised throughout the OS and perform specific functions in thier own apps, and also why such proprietry features, such as the S-pen, often don't work as expected (if at all) in apps that Samsung didn't develop.
Hopefully you can understand now why you can't install applications from a Samsung stock ROM on a custom ROM; the apps require functionality built into the stock rom itself.
Ok, I get it. S-pen not possible.
Is it the same for other apps? Like Music?
Another thought I had, and I don't know anything about compiling ROM's, but can you modify a stock ROM to have the improvements of a custom ROM? Therefore keeping stock apps.
There's a handful of independent apps which employ or require a pen.
The Samsung drawing app is an outdated version of a MicrographX or Adobe app in the store. But in the OS itself, the pen can just be used instead of the fingers, but with the digitizer's precision.
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Hi,
I have rooted and flashed numerous ROMs on several phones that I've had over the past few years, and installed minimal GAPPs such as BanKs, but this is a bit different.
I have just bought an S4 mini for my daughter, I have the intention of locking it down in many ways, but one thing i would like to do is remove gmail (and possibly other apps). I know there would be the option of not setting up a google account, but i don't want to do this as i want her to have access to google play music.
So my question is, can this be done on the stock ROM (with root), or a ROM that is based on stock so that she can keep all the fancy samsung widgets and things? And if so would the ROM be safe/stable, or would i need to do this on a more vanilla ROM such as CM or AOSP?
Thanks.
Ziain said:
Hi,
I have rooted and flashed numerous ROMs on several phones that I've had over the past few years, and installed minimal GAPPs such as BanKs, but this is a bit different.
I have just bought an S4 mini for my daughter, I have the intention of locking it down in many ways, but one thing i would like to do is remove gmail (and possibly other apps). I know there would be the option of not setting up a google account, but i don't want to do this as i want her to have access to google play music.
So my question is, can this be done on the stock ROM (with root), or a ROM that is based on stock so that she can keep all the fancy samsung widgets and things? And if so would the ROM be safe/stable, or would i need to do this on a more vanilla ROM such as CM or AOSP?
Thanks.
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You can easily disable app in the application manager without rooting the phone. This will allow you to remove contact sync calendar sync gmail sync and all the other bloatware that cames with google account. But it's only disable and can be reanable eaysily
Ziain said:
Hi,
So my question is, can this be done on the stock ROM (with root), or a ROM that is based on stock so that she can keep all the fancy samsung widgets and things? And if so would the ROM be safe/stable, or would i need to do this on a more vanilla ROM such as CM or AOSP?
Thanks.
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After rooting you could uninstall or freeze (=disable) nearly everything with Titanium Backup.
For a list which apps can be uninstalled without losing important functions, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39395506&postcount=604
You'll have to lower your sights, though, if your daughter wants to use some of the "bloatfeatures"...
But still, a rooted stock ROM should be sufficient.
Hello XDA!
I recently purchased a SM-T807P (10.5" LTE/Snapdragon) with the intent to use it as a wifi device.
Will anyone tell me which roms work with this device? I've heard the challenge is to find a snapdragon rom?
Its rooted with TWRP on it already. Just need some tasty roms to play with.
If there is ANY way to get cyanogenmod on it that would be my first choice (I would even be willing to offer a bounty!)
I am already running the only one I could find specifically for SM-T807P.
[ROM][TW][SM-T807P Snapdragon] SuperSkilled Basic ROM V1 + Firmware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/rom-superskilled-basic-rom-v1-t3055473
I'm glad to find a custom rom, but am really for a lollipop de-bloated rom.
But ANYTHING that people have tried so far would be great.
OR anything that I should try that wont permanently brick my new tablet!
Thanks all!
Now you have twrp just make a full backup before you go messing and you'll never have to worry about bricking your tablet.
As for roms, pretty much all roms are based on stock, so just modify yours as you see fit.
Debloat, add mods, etc.
ashyx said:
Now you have twrp just make a full backup before you go messing and you'll never have to worry about bricking your tablet.
As for roms, pretty much all roms are based on stock, so just modify yours as you see fit.
Debloat, add mods, etc.
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Considering that I am using a snapdragon version of this tablet maybe you could point me in the right direction about which roms work for that processor versus the other?
I know one of the issues was finding a rom that had the right kernel for my tablet.
No the kernel isn't the issue. Its that the t807p is partitioned differently than what the available ROMs are compatible with. I have the same tablet and as awesome as it it, there is very little support for it. No developers have it and its very difficult to work with without owning one.
There is twrp available which I assume you have used and rooted. There is a stock ROM on XDA that is lollipop that works awesomely. I just debloated it myself and tuned it with kernel tuner with stock rooted options. Xposed won't work without a deodexed rom either which is not available. But regular root options and a different launcher (I use nova) and i have it running pretty damn smooth.
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No the kernel isn't the issue. Its that the t807p is partitioned differently than what the available ROMs are compatible with. I have the same tablet and as awesome as it it, there is very little support for it. No developers have it and its very difficult to work with without owning one.
There is twrp available which I assume you have used and rooted. There is a stock ROM on XDA that is lollipop that works awesomely. I just debloated it myself and tuned it with kernel tuner with stock rooted options. Xposed won't work without a deodexed rom either which is not available. But regular root options and a different launcher (I use nova) and i have it running pretty damn smooth.
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I flashed the only KK ROM I found and got FC's to no avail. I then basically wiped the whole thing then odin'd to lollipop. I am stock now and you're right, it's a damn nice device. -- I wouldn't mind de-bloating it myself, do you by any chance have the 'safe list' to reference as far as which apps are good to go. Last thing I wanna do is get rid of some odd-ball system file that creates hell for myself.
Thank you
Just make a backup first with twrp before you go messing then use system app remover to debloat or just freeze with titanium backup . If you get an issue after removing something you can easily restore it.
chargerfn909 said:
I flashed the only KK ROM I found and got FC's to no avail. I then basically wiped the whole thing then odin'd to lollipop. I am stock now and you're right, it's a damn nice device. -- I wouldn't mind de-bloating it myself, do you by any chance have the 'safe list' to reference as far as which apps are good to go. Last thing I wanna do is get rid of some odd-ball system file that creates hell for myself.
Thank you
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No problem. First off, listen to everything xda senior member ashyx says. I have been dealing with my rooted t807p for a while and I have found all his posts on the tab s not just accurate, but extremely useful.
here is a post regarding safe apps to uninstall: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/list-bloated-apps-to-uninstall-sm-t700-t2861180
Now what I have personally taken off my tab s has been the superficial apps. The magazine apps, office apps that I have no use for, While a lot of apps on the post may be safe to delete, it doesnt mean you should if you plan on using your tablet for wireless transfers, casting and what not. I prefer not to touch many of the "behind the scenes" apps. And also it depends on why you are debloating. Are you looking for more storage space? or for better ram and performance? Unfortunately, at least for my use, you wont save much storage space by deleting apps. But freezing them and playing with it makes a big difference. On just a standard recent apps clearing and maybe a push of my "fast reboot" app, and I can get my RAM to run at around 900mb and little battery drainage.
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions, I have played with my t807p for quite a while with rooting and have learned pretty well what works and what doesnt. I am no developer like the senior members on here but there aren't many people with our specific tab s.
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There is a stock ROM on XDA that is lollipop that works awesomely. I just debloated it myself and tuned it with kernel tuner with stock rooted options.
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I realize it's been a year or more, but do you have a link to the Lollipop ROM for T807P? I've tried the "SuperSkilled" ROM but it was KitKat. I looked for a Cyanogen build for this tablet but no luck. Looking for any ROM that's close to AOSP or at least debloated and is Lollipop or MM.
I have been browsing the forums for quite some time now and I have tried alot of roms. Every rom I have tried, has failed or is no longer supported. Can anyone reading this post please share a link or any other information regarding this help. I have the 5110 version note I appreciate all the help I can get.
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I forced myself to break away and lightly customize a stock ROM made for a provider. It is the only stock ROM that has stagefright fix which is way cool, and a few other usabililty fixes as well. Must allow security update to patch, it helps correct a few wee bugs.
The big issue... you are forced to keep a new boot loader, and cannot revert to any previous Stock ROM, and must deal with boot loader compatibilities unknown by builders as they have stopped with any new builds .
Downside, the new bootloader effects various Root functions. But newer Super Su, Boeffla utility, and other updated older Xposed modules seem to help with the new boot loader. Plus Default Apps no longer lists, but they can be managed through App Manager.
A custom SecSettings from a Note 2 (S5 varient) will bring back the Default Apps function plus many hidden settings options built in thus latest OEM build.
So, if you want all the bells and whistles, you will have to deal with the bugs, no matter how big or how small.
Now to explain what features I had with Gnabo v8 SE that I don't miss at all.
Mag UX, Tab Keyboard, Spen Air Command, 160dpi, Multi boot menu, and enhanced wallpaper picker.
Features I have and use, and are bug free but need a system UI to use them... tested with a custom Note 2 Secsettings that has some issues because it is a S5 variant and made for Note 2 specifically.
Colorblind, Interaction Control, Face Lock (came with my OEM build), Grey Scale (built in partially with new build, but S3 neo System UI is the key), Apps from a broken and defunct custom ROM for the N5110, Quick Connect 1.6.5.
My issues are minimal, but seem to be plagued by the new boot loader more than the ported apps.
Miracast works best, 3 minutes after reboot. WiFi is not stable after using hooked VPN apps of any type. Disabling WiFi for a minute and re enabling corrects the issue 80% of the time. A reboot may need to be done if WiFi is buggy. Reboots are 75% trouble free. Sometimes you get a fast boot soon after system UI loads, sometimes you get GMS forced closes, and must reboot.
It may be because of Triangle Away not being upgraded to work with newer boot loaders, or SU still needs some tweaks to work around the latest build by Samsung.
If I were stubborn I would stick with Gnabo v8 SE and it's patches and run Boeffla kernel, and just deal with 160dpi. But I am comfy with what I did even though the 75% boot issues and Miracast functionality being effected by WiFi with VPN apps.
I have given options for assistance by ROM builders in copying my ROM for building a unique custom one, but because I am using some apps that may be from a closed off ROM to builders, respect to the owners must be made. So it will be all for personal use at most.
Thanks for the detailed reply. I guess stock with some tweaks here and there isn't that bad afterall
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as of late beoffla kernal utility works smoothly with its latest update.
Also I noticed better boot ups, so most of my boot issues are from beoffola utility with the new boot loader.
Plus, I had to manually remove earth, as google's earth app is busted for 218 220 dpi on the new rom. Google pushes that version from play store without installing the busted version. I downloaded he nodpi version and run it, just unable to update it through play store.
Also wifi seems to operate smoother changing from miracast, and vpn apps. again beoffola utility finally has gotten it right, to use on newer boot loaders, and the lastest OEM ROM.
Is it possible to have app stock like
\system\priv-app\SamsungCamera3.apk or VoiceNote4T.apk in CM13 or 14.x ??
Which \lib\ should I get ?
(thank you)
maxnuk said:
Is it possible to have app stock like
\system\priv-app\SamsungCamera3.apk or VoiceNote4T.apk in CM13 or 14.x ??
Which \lib\ should I get ?
(thank you)
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Only if they are not dependent upon the touchwiz framework. For example samsungs internet browser can be installed on any device (example of non touchwiz dependent app) where as gear vr only works on samsung roms (touchwiz dependency) . It wont hurt to try you will just get non functional app or fc. NOTE!!!! I STTONGLY SUGGEST NOT FLASHING ANYTHING ANDROID IS DEPENDENT UPON FOR BOOT OR TOUCHSCREEN FUNCTIONALITY (SYSTEM UI, documents ui....leave anything with ui in package name alone. A phone without the ability to be interacted with would seriously suck. Obviously backup before trying system apps ....the camera isnt going to work ....im doubting voice note will either, but i havent tried either (the cam im certain wont work we have been looking for a working one since march)
Hi all,
I'm new on this forum, so thanks for your help!
I'd like to install a custom ROM focused on privacy to avoid personal data leaks and spying. There seems to be plenty of options out there so I dont know which one to choose, and if it'll work on my phone.
I use:
- Lenovo vibe K5 plus A6020a46
- Android version 5.1.1
- Material version H201
Also I wonder if normally available apps will work on a custom ROM: I use quite a few apps for work and want to make sure I can keep them with me after I switch to a custom google-free spy-free ROM (xpl: spotify, nordvpn, tutanota, Mega, wordreference, Qwant...)
Any advice on ROMs and how to proceed (Can I just use TWERP?) is very welcome!
Thanks
Basically Stick to STOCK ROM and install privacy securing apps like NordVpn and Avast. I never saw any custom rom with focus on privacy. They're mainly made for either Battery Life increase or Performance.
"Also I wonder if normally available apps will work on a custom ROM: I use quite a few apps for work and want to make sure I can keep them with me after I switch to a custom google-free spy-free ROM (xpl: spotify, nordvpn, tutanota, Mega, wordreference, Qwant...)"
It does work. If it doesn't let you install it, it's because you are on custom rom, but Magisk has a tweak to bypass it ( It modifies liboemcrypto.so) So it tricks Play Store into thinking you're on stock rom/without root. Else, if you still can't install an app it's either because your version of android does not support it ( you must be on a newer version, seek installing it through custom rom) or because it is made for a specific phone ( with another architecture, etc..) If the custom rom doesn't have play store, you'll need to reflash it and then flash also Gapps: https://opengapps.org/ . Also don't forget to factory reset after flashing a new ROM.