[Q] Is it possible/safe to remove stock apps? - Galaxy S 4 Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I have rooted and flashed numerous ROMs on several phones that I've had over the past few years, and installed minimal GAPPs such as BanKs, but this is a bit different.
I have just bought an S4 mini for my daughter, I have the intention of locking it down in many ways, but one thing i would like to do is remove gmail (and possibly other apps). I know there would be the option of not setting up a google account, but i don't want to do this as i want her to have access to google play music.
So my question is, can this be done on the stock ROM (with root), or a ROM that is based on stock so that she can keep all the fancy samsung widgets and things? And if so would the ROM be safe/stable, or would i need to do this on a more vanilla ROM such as CM or AOSP?
Thanks.

Ziain said:
Hi,
I have rooted and flashed numerous ROMs on several phones that I've had over the past few years, and installed minimal GAPPs such as BanKs, but this is a bit different.
I have just bought an S4 mini for my daughter, I have the intention of locking it down in many ways, but one thing i would like to do is remove gmail (and possibly other apps). I know there would be the option of not setting up a google account, but i don't want to do this as i want her to have access to google play music.
So my question is, can this be done on the stock ROM (with root), or a ROM that is based on stock so that she can keep all the fancy samsung widgets and things? And if so would the ROM be safe/stable, or would i need to do this on a more vanilla ROM such as CM or AOSP?
Thanks.
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You can easily disable app in the application manager without rooting the phone. This will allow you to remove contact sync calendar sync gmail sync and all the other bloatware that cames with google account. But it's only disable and can be reanable eaysily

Ziain said:
Hi,
So my question is, can this be done on the stock ROM (with root), or a ROM that is based on stock so that she can keep all the fancy samsung widgets and things? And if so would the ROM be safe/stable, or would i need to do this on a more vanilla ROM such as CM or AOSP?
Thanks.
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After rooting you could uninstall or freeze (=disable) nearly everything with Titanium Backup.
For a list which apps can be uninstalled without losing important functions, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39395506&postcount=604
You'll have to lower your sights, though, if your daughter wants to use some of the "bloatfeatures"...
But still, a rooted stock ROM should be sufficient.

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Q: Anyone know if...

there will be a barebone AOSP Android 4.3 rom?
convolution said:
there will be a barebone AOSP Android 4.3 rom?
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isnt that called stock?
Zepius said:
isnt that called stock?
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Something even MORE barebone than stock.
Like even stock has what I consider to be "bloatware"
IE: Currents, Google+, Google Hangout, etc.
What I want is something devoid of all that, and lets me tweak around with basic UI settings. I don't need those fancy pie launchers and halo whatevers.
Build it and it will exist.
I assume you are running a maguro?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
convolution said:
Something even MORE barebone than stock.
Like even stock has what I consider to be "bloatware"
IE: Currents, Google+, Google Hangout, etc.
What I want is something devoid of all that, and lets me tweak around with basic UI settings. I don't need those fancy pie launchers and halo whatevers.
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Currents, Google+, hangouts doesn't come with stock 4.3 unless you already had them installed you have to download those from play store to get them, not getting what u mean by bloatware, Google made all their apps available in play store now instead of making them system apps so you can simply add them or remove them like any other app without needing root an titanium.
Pirateghost said:
Build it and it will exist.
I assume you are running a maguro?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Yes I am, and I don't know how. I wish I had the time to learn.
fux0r99 said:
Currents, Google+, hangouts doesn't come with stock you have to download those from play store to get them, not getting what u mean by bloatware, Google made all their apps available in play store now instead of including it.
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I installed this guy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882248
It says "stock", but I got the whole slew of google apps.
I flashed 4.3 Google image direct from Google developer site not someone else's custom 4.3 rom, why not just uninstall the Google apps you don't want then with titanium backup instead of a whole new rom, doesn't get more simpler than that.
fux0r99 said:
I flashed 4.3 Google image direct from Google developer site.
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But it's odexed right? And you have to root it yourself and all that jazz?
convolution said:
But it's odexed right? And you have to root it yourself and all that jazz?
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Yes , easy to do with a toolkit, those Google apps your talking about with the rom you tried are because you flashed the gapps zip which install all that Google stuff, that's all gapps is for to install all the popular Google play store apps which are not necessarily needed.
So just to clarify, you want a stock 4.3 deodexed rooted ROM without Google apps (and you can flash Banks' minimal gapps for the absolutely necessary stuff like Play Store)? Then even if you don't know how to write code, you just need to sync the source and build. Deodex guides abound. Very little skill required. I know, since I build unofficial codefireXs with no skill whatsoever.
You can make the build system build deodexed, no need to deodex later.
a maguro wrote this.
convolution said:
there will be a barebone AOSP Android 4.3 rom?
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If you really want stock (and less) try Slimbean. When you dont flash the google apps you will also lose the ability to get notifications automatically pushed. Eventhough it's still in alpha, the battery is excellent.

wifi Roms for SM-T807P

Hello XDA!
I recently purchased a SM-T807P (10.5" LTE/Snapdragon) with the intent to use it as a wifi device.
Will anyone tell me which roms work with this device? I've heard the challenge is to find a snapdragon rom?
Its rooted with TWRP on it already. Just need some tasty roms to play with.
If there is ANY way to get cyanogenmod on it that would be my first choice (I would even be willing to offer a bounty!)
I am already running the only one I could find specifically for SM-T807P.
[ROM][TW][SM-T807P Snapdragon] SuperSkilled Basic ROM V1 + Firmware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/rom-superskilled-basic-rom-v1-t3055473
I'm glad to find a custom rom, but am really for a lollipop de-bloated rom.
But ANYTHING that people have tried so far would be great.
OR anything that I should try that wont permanently brick my new tablet!
Thanks all!
Now you have twrp just make a full backup before you go messing and you'll never have to worry about bricking your tablet.
As for roms, pretty much all roms are based on stock, so just modify yours as you see fit.
Debloat, add mods, etc.
ashyx said:
Now you have twrp just make a full backup before you go messing and you'll never have to worry about bricking your tablet.
As for roms, pretty much all roms are based on stock, so just modify yours as you see fit.
Debloat, add mods, etc.
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Considering that I am using a snapdragon version of this tablet maybe you could point me in the right direction about which roms work for that processor versus the other?
I know one of the issues was finding a rom that had the right kernel for my tablet.
No the kernel isn't the issue. Its that the t807p is partitioned differently than what the available ROMs are compatible with. I have the same tablet and as awesome as it it, there is very little support for it. No developers have it and its very difficult to work with without owning one.
There is twrp available which I assume you have used and rooted. There is a stock ROM on XDA that is lollipop that works awesomely. I just debloated it myself and tuned it with kernel tuner with stock rooted options. Xposed won't work without a deodexed rom either which is not available. But regular root options and a different launcher (I use nova) and i have it running pretty damn smooth.
agent_00_fiver said:
No the kernel isn't the issue. Its that the t807p is partitioned differently than what the available ROMs are compatible with. I have the same tablet and as awesome as it it, there is very little support for it. No developers have it and its very difficult to work with without owning one.
There is twrp available which I assume you have used and rooted. There is a stock ROM on XDA that is lollipop that works awesomely. I just debloated it myself and tuned it with kernel tuner with stock rooted options. Xposed won't work without a deodexed rom either which is not available. But regular root options and a different launcher (I use nova) and i have it running pretty damn smooth.
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I flashed the only KK ROM I found and got FC's to no avail. I then basically wiped the whole thing then odin'd to lollipop. I am stock now and you're right, it's a damn nice device. -- I wouldn't mind de-bloating it myself, do you by any chance have the 'safe list' to reference as far as which apps are good to go. Last thing I wanna do is get rid of some odd-ball system file that creates hell for myself.
Thank you
Just make a backup first with twrp before you go messing then use system app remover to debloat or just freeze with titanium backup . If you get an issue after removing something you can easily restore it.
chargerfn909 said:
I flashed the only KK ROM I found and got FC's to no avail. I then basically wiped the whole thing then odin'd to lollipop. I am stock now and you're right, it's a damn nice device. -- I wouldn't mind de-bloating it myself, do you by any chance have the 'safe list' to reference as far as which apps are good to go. Last thing I wanna do is get rid of some odd-ball system file that creates hell for myself.
Thank you
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No problem. First off, listen to everything xda senior member ashyx says. I have been dealing with my rooted t807p for a while and I have found all his posts on the tab s not just accurate, but extremely useful.
here is a post regarding safe apps to uninstall: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/list-bloated-apps-to-uninstall-sm-t700-t2861180
Now what I have personally taken off my tab s has been the superficial apps. The magazine apps, office apps that I have no use for, While a lot of apps on the post may be safe to delete, it doesnt mean you should if you plan on using your tablet for wireless transfers, casting and what not. I prefer not to touch many of the "behind the scenes" apps. And also it depends on why you are debloating. Are you looking for more storage space? or for better ram and performance? Unfortunately, at least for my use, you wont save much storage space by deleting apps. But freezing them and playing with it makes a big difference. On just a standard recent apps clearing and maybe a push of my "fast reboot" app, and I can get my RAM to run at around 900mb and little battery drainage.
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions, I have played with my t807p for quite a while with rooting and have learned pretty well what works and what doesnt. I am no developer like the senior members on here but there aren't many people with our specific tab s.
agent_00_fiver said:
There is a stock ROM on XDA that is lollipop that works awesomely. I just debloated it myself and tuned it with kernel tuner with stock rooted options.
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I realize it's been a year or more, but do you have a link to the Lollipop ROM for T807P? I've tried the "SuperSkilled" ROM but it was KitKat. I looked for a Cyanogen build for this tablet but no luck. Looking for any ROM that's close to AOSP or at least debloated and is Lollipop or MM.

No Playstore/GAPPs Rom

Hi, I'm getting back into ROMs after not looking at this forum since the Galaxy S (seriously). I want a ROM without Google baked into it. I see a few ROMs suggesting "dirty build" or optional installation of GAPPs. Do these ROMs actually provide an AOSP build without Google running in the background (play services, etc.)?
Basically, I'm looking for a ROM on my Nexus5x that doesn't track me back through Google (most stable, don't really care about speed/themes). Trying to get away from Google as much as possible due to their constant data mining, and I think this is the only way. Total NEWB here, I did use the search function, but I ran into a bunch of thread that didn't seem directly related.
I think that you are looking for LineageOs (ex CyanogenMod). You can install it without Google apps, so no play services, no Google account required, etc..
toolshed01 said:
I think that you are looking for LineageOs (ex CyanogenMod). You can install it without Google apps, so no play services, no Google account required, etc..
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Thanks, that's what I thought, just wanted to make sure.

USING STOCK APP's WITH CUSTOM ROM

We all love using custom rom's to improve our device. But every now and then I will go back to stock rom. Why?
Samsung make great apps!
I make a backup of various stock apps and then try to install them on the custom rom. It doesn't work.
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How can I get stock apps to run on custom rom's?
meekspace said:
We all love using custom rom's to improve our device. But every now and then I will go back to stock rom. Why?
Samsung make great apps!
I make a backup of various stock apps and then try to install them on the custom rom. It doesn't work.
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How can I get stock apps to run on custom rom's?
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The depths to which Samsung (for better or for worse) customise the Android OS on thier devices is what allows them to so deeply integrate thier own apps into the OS. This is what allows them to have proprietry features such as the S-pen recognised throughout the OS and perform specific functions in thier own apps, and also why such proprietry features, such as the S-pen, often don't work as expected (if at all) in apps that Samsung didn't develop.
Hopefully you can understand now why you can't install applications from a Samsung stock ROM on a custom ROM; the apps require functionality built into the stock rom itself.
Ok, I get it. S-pen not possible.
Is it the same for other apps? Like Music?
Another thought I had, and I don't know anything about compiling ROM's, but can you modify a stock ROM to have the improvements of a custom ROM? Therefore keeping stock apps.
There's a handful of independent apps which employ or require a pen.
The Samsung drawing app is an outdated version of a MicrographX or Adobe app in the store. But in the OS itself, the pen can just be used instead of the fingers, but with the digitizer's precision.

Looking for Custom ROM focused on privacy

Hi all,
I'm new on this forum, so thanks for your help!
I'd like to install a custom ROM focused on privacy to avoid personal data leaks and spying. There seems to be plenty of options out there so I dont know which one to choose, and if it'll work on my phone.
I use:
- Lenovo vibe K5 plus A6020a46
- Android version 5.1.1
- Material version H201
Also I wonder if normally available apps will work on a custom ROM: I use quite a few apps for work and want to make sure I can keep them with me after I switch to a custom google-free spy-free ROM (xpl: spotify, nordvpn, tutanota, Mega, wordreference, Qwant...)
Any advice on ROMs and how to proceed (Can I just use TWERP?) is very welcome!
Thanks
Basically Stick to STOCK ROM and install privacy securing apps like NordVpn and Avast. I never saw any custom rom with focus on privacy. They're mainly made for either Battery Life increase or Performance.
"Also I wonder if normally available apps will work on a custom ROM: I use quite a few apps for work and want to make sure I can keep them with me after I switch to a custom google-free spy-free ROM (xpl: spotify, nordvpn, tutanota, Mega, wordreference, Qwant...)"
It does work. If it doesn't let you install it, it's because you are on custom rom, but Magisk has a tweak to bypass it ( It modifies liboemcrypto.so) So it tricks Play Store into thinking you're on stock rom/without root. Else, if you still can't install an app it's either because your version of android does not support it ( you must be on a newer version, seek installing it through custom rom) or because it is made for a specific phone ( with another architecture, etc..) If the custom rom doesn't have play store, you'll need to reflash it and then flash also Gapps: https://opengapps.org/ . Also don't forget to factory reset after flashing a new ROM.

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