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Bluetooth Thermal Imaging addon Prototype

Hi everyone!
I've had some time to play around with the Prototype of the BT Thermal Imaging Addon for Android phones.
The Hardware and Software was designed by XDA Member "Mardaso", you can read about the begiinigs of the project in this thread.
Mardaso kindly sent me a prototype and allowed me access to the latest beta app for testing purposes.
I will attempt to show you what this device can do.
First some facts:
The Far Infrared Sensor built into this device is a Melexis MLX90620 16x4 Pixel Thermopile Array. It is a low resolution and low cost sensor. Despite the low resolution it is actually quite useful, 64 FIR Pixels can show up leaks around Windows and doors, find cold and hot spots and let you find your dog in the dark, especially in winter when the warm-blooded creature shines like a beacon...
A Model with two Sensors, doubling the resolution and giving you and aspect ratio of 16:8, is possible and might be available in the future. a trial run with a dual-sensor setup was succesful.
The device is currently powered by 3 AAA batteries, but newer prototypes work with 2 AAA batteries, making the unit smaller and lighter. The current revision uses BT 2.1, but the final device will be dual-mode BT with 4.0 support for future proofing and iPhone compatibility.
The Android App is currently pretty basic, offering Camera Overlay, framerates from 1-8Hz, Automatic or manual Temperature scales, Ironbow or RGB Color display and Screenshot capability.
I tested this with my Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.2.2 and it works quite well, a few bugs are still there, but they should be mostly solved by
the time this hits Google Play
So, let's look at some pictures:
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This is the current Prototype device, it's size and shape are far from final. The black thing next to it is the pouch for my Nexus. I attached the Sensor to my Nexus with a piece of Pugoo pad, this works really well.
This is my dog in TI vision. The resolution is no good enough for details. but still quite impressive for such a low-priced sensor.
This shows the real usefulness. You can clearly see how much warmth is radiated out through the old, double glazed wooden windows. The Yellow area does not quite match the windows area, this is due to the fact, that the sensor is not perfectly aligned with the Nexus camera. This should improve in newer revisions of the sensor and app.
This is a new and well insulated house, plastic windows with triple glazing. Windows, door and wall are mostly the same temperature.
Here you can see, that deven in a well insulated house there are warm and cold spots. This is the same door you saw above, but from the inside. To make the temperature differences visible I had to set the max and min temperatures by hand. Difference from warmest to coldest spot are minimal.
Last image for today: My dog at night with thermal overlay.
OK, this is just a start and a first impression. I'm planning to do more pictures, for example of the inside of my PC.
If you've got special wishes or questions, just ask and I'll try to answer.
Thanks for reading, I look forward to hearing your opinions and suggestions!

UPDATE:
I finally had some time to do a few more tests.
This shows that the CPU cooler is a lot...cooler than the VC chips next to the CPU socket.
This shot shows the GPU producing plenty of heat despite being idle
The "traditional" HDD gets a bit warm while the SSD keeps it's cool (hard to see on the picture, I know)
The temperature stays a lot cooler than the GPU and the VCs though...
And last but not least, here you can see that the case fan does it's job and blows the hot air out of the back of the case.
I hope you liked this little preview-review. Sadly there have been no responses so far, if anyone has questions, don't be shy to ask...

Thanks for the update!
See you having fun with the sensor.

Good work! I am currently trying to program my own interface with the MLX90620 but the 16Hz output doesn't look as good as yours - in fact, it's very noisy. Did you do some filtering or use a lower refresh-rate?
Also, how did you get the higher resolution? Interpolation?

@chnaideur:
I use 4Hz as a standard and 8Hz as a maximum at the moment.
The data is "noisy" because of the small temperature changes the sensor can detect.
In the last Android software I use a threshold between 0.5 to 1 degree Celsius to get a better picture.
Thus to filter out the noise.
The higher resolution is achieved by interpolation.

I remember following this project a ways back. Glad its came to fruition. Keep up the great work guys. Very interested in this.....STILL
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availability?
This is a great add on device. Are there any updates on its development or availability?

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This is a great add on device. Are there any updates on its development or availability?
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Hi,
why don't you send a PM to mardaso, he has built several versions and is selling them in Europe. Last I heard he was working on a USB-OTG Version.
If you live in the US you could get one of the "IR-Blue" devices that were up on Kickstarter. They are made for iOS Devices, but there is a free app by mardaso on the Playstore that should work fine with them.

Cheer for 8X [Giveaway] Tell us what you like about the Honor 8X to win!

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As most of you probably know, Honor is always interested in hearing feedback from the community about their phones. The Honor 8X is one of the more exciting releases from Honor this year, and they're very interested in hearing your thoughts about it. To thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts, Honor is giving away three bluetooth speakers to some of those that participate.
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Kirin 710 chipset

best budget device
the best feature of this device is that it offers best bang for buck value in my opinion

That would be the 20MP AI camera, is just amazing!

Never won anything

8x
Favorite thing about the Honor 8x is the screen. The 6.5 inch screen and big battery are a killer combo.

Best price/performance product including with high specifications:
Borderless fullview display + Kirin 710 + 20MP AI camera = perfection!

Yeah … the AI-Cam

In that phone I love performance. It's so smooth!
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The AI-Cam

I believe it has the best cost x benefit ratio in the market right now.

Design
That Design of Honor 8X is one of the best if not best in the segment ????

Kirin 710 Chipset, 128 GB internal storage.

These below features are the one which I like in Honor 8X
The glass back panel with metal frame makes 8X a stunning phone.
Massive 6.5" display with a 91% STB ratio which makes full use of its design.
Ultra Slim Chin makes the phone even more attractive.

The design and the value for money.
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As most of you probably know, Honor is always interested in hearing feedback from the community about their phones. The Honor 8X is one of the more exciting releases from Honor this year, and they're very interested in hearing your thoughts about it. To thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts, Honor is giving away three bluetooth speakers to some of those that participate.
So, leave a comment below detailing your favorite feature of the Honor 8X. Even if you don't own one, let us know what feature looks the most attractive to you. This giveaway will last from October 30th - November 11th. Good luck!
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HONOR 8X
I like the design of Honor 8X display, its tiny bezel make it beauty.
Also, i like what the camera Honor 8X perform from the review of youtubers, its good for the mid range phone and I can experience night mode like Mate 20 Pro. That very awesome.
Last but not least, i want to experience how this Kirin 710 chipset perform, it is good like another mid range smartphone that use snapdragon chipset.
Honor Always Improve

Premium Design
The premium design of the phone puts other premium range phones to shame... Man this phone has some killer looks definetly going to catch a lot of attention for their owners.
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So, leave a comment below detailing your favorite feature of the Honor 8X. Even if you don't own one, let us know what feature looks the most attractive to you. This giveaway will last from October 30th - November 11th. Good luck!
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Cheer for 8X
First of all the main reason i think that honor 8X can be a boom is because of it's price segment getting some impressive/massive specs under 15k is something everyone looks forward to buy. And the second reason is that it's kirin710 chipset, GPU turbo and 4/6 gigs of ram which makes the performance smooth sleek and real fast. Next main segment camera 20MP AI recognition camera with face unlock is something that many of the manufactures are not providing under this pricing segment. And the 3750mah battery i think with that much of power i can get an entire day for my usage. So there's every reason to own and love the honor 8X.

It should be the tall screen. Less scrolling when reading an ebook, article or Twitter and extra wide view when gaming is just something you can't ignore. Less finger scrolling is always a good thing.

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Definitely the triptych (chipset(14nm!), cpu+gpu) will make the difference. "Endless" bezeless display as well. Seems to be a real upgrade to predecessor!

[CLOSED]Doogee V20 5G scheduled to launch with an AMOLED and rear display

This year, DOOGEE introduced a new rugged phone series. The V-series will be 5G rugged with flagship-level tech for your outdoors and adventurous lifestyle.
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General "Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra — these photos show how far Samsung is behind Google"

There has been some talk about Sammi versus Pixels on XDA. If you care for camera performance, this review might aid your decision.
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Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra — these photos show how far Samsung is behind Google
The Galaxy S22 Ultra is allergic to the sun
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Shadow detail & color contrast much better on the P6P

On first glance the P6P looks best, but after a while too processed and too heavy on the HDR. The natural photographic nature has been replaced with a video game like processing look more and more as time goes by on Pixel.
Looking back at my pixel 2 photos, they are more natural looking than the p6 ones now.
All you need to do is check out edited RAW files and what the p6 camera is capable of is drowned in a over processing.

My kid has both, he agrees that the Pixel camera is better.

86rickard said:
On first glance the P6P looks best, but after a while too processed and too heavy on the HDR. The natural photographic nature has been replaced with a video game like processing look more and more as time goes by on Pixel.
Looking back at my pixel 2 photos, they are more natural looking than the p6 ones now.
All you need to do is check out edited RAW files and what the p6 camera is capable of is drowned in a over processing.
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Still people just care about a "good" looking photo. Problem with samsung is that it still take lots of blurry photos

Depends on the review TBH. Both phones are in the top 3. The S22 Ultra is more expensive but has better specs, storage capacity and build quality. It's not made in China which is important to some of us.

I have both and for most things the Pixel camera is just better.
Problem is for everything else on the phone the S22U is better.

arsenal74 said:
I have both and for most things the Pixel camera is just better.
Problem is for everything else on the phone the S22U is better.
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And now we have an honest unbiased response.

Both of these flagship phones are seriously flawed. Not a day goes by that I'm not sorry for selling my S20+ in anticipation of the Pro 6 that never came and the S22U that is 2 weeks delayed and counting.

The Samsung shot is way more natural but there is no way you can make a judgment on just one photo. For the majority of the time the Pixel doesn't turn in to an HDR mentalist like it has here and the results are very pleasing.

Then thing is this type of photo is one where I would expect Samsung to be competitive with the Pixel and in this instance I think I do prefer the S22U image, the slightly blown sign and building in the distance do not ruin the photo for me.
It is photos of people and pets where I think the Pixel excels which is probabnly 90%+ of the photos I take on a phone. If I was heading out to take some cityscapes I would not worry which one I took with me TBH. I'd probably take the S22U though as the Pixel on cellular would likely have a dead battery by lunchtime

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The Samsung shot is way more natural but there is no way you can make a judgment on just one photo. For the majority of the time the Pixel doesn't turn in to an HDR mentalist like it has here and the results are very pleasing.
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^^ 100%.
One photo? come on. Both phones are great. can we just be content that phones are this good.
And there's so much more to it, than just one photo captured in one moment of time. It''s not black and white. This is much more complex to just have a blatant statement like that and these types of features have to perform well for billions of people in billions of different environments. all flag ships from 2020-22 do very, very well.

Not anymore sir... After may update camera on pixel isn't so good on sharp

Question So I've bought the ROG6 to replace the X80 Pro...

I was on my mind for a while, but i couldn't take the laggy interface of NOT FUNTOUCH OS anymore and the awful inconsistent battery life anymore, which is kinda of a big shame as the camera ROCKS and is better than any phone out there easily(except the Mate 40 Pro+).
So, yesterday i've bought the ROG6 after many thoughts and here is my conclusion so far:
-Let's start with the not so good that all the reviewers have been pointing out... The Camera!
It ain't that bad, it actually quite good and useful during daylight and less during nighttime, but it's still doing the job.
Yes it ain't touching the X80 Pro, not by miles and miles and miles... but it's more than serviceable specially selfies.
-Battery+Speakers+Performance+Battery Life are TOP NOTCH!
I've got 8.10hr before battery reached 5%, and while it seems to be "low" since it has 6000mah, keep in mind that it was the first boot in which i've transferred all the data from the vivo, restored whatapp backups, played some games, installed YouTube, updates and had it all under 165hz all the time, so first impression of the battery is excellent( probably can get easily 10-11hr with 144/120hz usage).
Performance ****s all over x80 pro besides it being SUPER FAST, it did one thing that no android that i ever owned has ever done... CLOSING BACKGROUND APPS, it did NONE of it, all my apps were in the background and never reloaded, i'm still shocked tbh( outside some oddities like Tinder and OKCUPID, which android really hates).
Speakers are punchy, bassy and have good balance of volume, and you can force an "outside mode" that will make them very loud at some expense of the sound quality.
The screen is FHD+ but it's gorgeous, not matching the vivo or high-end Samsung screens but it's very good.
Asus has just 3 preinstalled apps and clean android, it boots and loads everything so fast that i miss it sometimes.
In conclusion, for now, it is the Vivo X80 Pro we deserve but never got!!!
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I used Mate 40 Pro before and I have to say its camera is very good for both day and night situations. Just wonder how good is the Mate 40 Pro Plus's camera as you said here compared to X80 Pro? (you said x80 pro is better over most of the phones except the Mate 40 Pro Plus)
How about P50 Pro? have you have any chances to test it or use it?
Currently I'm still using S22U. Although the camera is not in the same level as Huawei in night mode, I found that its portrait mode is superior, especially 3x zoom portrait mode. The photos came out can be compared with my Nikon and Canon DSLR in terms of portrait (not kidding, I'm so surprised). So I guess I'll keep this S22U because I don't have any problem with lag, heating, or battery. I heard that the new update coming up in August can fix the shutter lag problem of the camera (my main issue currently). So if it's true then I would be really happy with my choice. Will look at x80 pro when the software is more stable in the future and the price dropped at least $100-200 more.

Mate 40 pro 50mp ai mode is unmatched, the vivo is much better during nighttime and slightly better zoom.
But overall the X80 pro phone as a whole is a disaster atm, not recommended.

I told you !!
Asus rocks ...
If they would spend a tad more on the camera and less on a backdisplay that's kinda useless and just have a faux leather back which would include Wireless charge then it would be a STRONG contender for any Android Flagship device.
Enjoy ....

Dutch-Vivo said:
I told you !!
Asus rocks ...
If they would spend a tad more on the camera and less on a backdisplay that's kinda useless and just have a faux leather back which would include Wireless charge then it would be a STRONG contender for any Android Flagship device.
Enjoy ....
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Haha you were so ****ing right!
ASUS should make a combo of rog with zenphone with minimum gaming features.
Just customization of the software and hardware.
Outside the camera and screen, the ROG6 feels so far ahead of the vivo x80 pro it's not funny

Second day of using the phone, 165hz 1d 1hr 9.15hr sot!
That's how you do battery and don't excessively close background apps all the time, even with 12gb ram.
I'll keep the x80 pro for the camera and to see if Vivo can fix there awful software.