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Since the paranoid android team sources their code from aosp, which got the lollipop push on the 3rd of November, when can we expect a final 4.x and work on lollipop to begin?
Furthermore, when's the earliest we can expect a beta push? (Note 2 user here)
Expect? Never.
We still don't have everything we need for fully supported aosp builds on nexus devices. It would be great if people would just be patient.
#stayparanoid
Pirateghost said:
Expect? Never.
We still don't have everything we need for fully supported aosp builds on nexus devices. It would be great if people would just be patient.
#stayparanoid
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Well, CM12 it is then. Shame though. You guys have the best UI out there. Way to go Arz Bhatia. :good:
BigBallsac said:
Well, CM12 it is then. Shame though. You guys have the best UI out there. Way to go Arz Bhatia. :good:
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You asked for an EtA, and I told you to never "expect" it. We don't even support your device... So how can we give anyone an EtA when we have no idea how long developing something will take?
I really wish people understood the process here and the fact that asking for etas is frowned upon and discouraged
#stayparanoid
i swear some people are raised by f$cking wolves.....
no manners and expect everything for free.
So will the next update to PA be based on 4.4.4 or 5.0?
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So will the next update to PA be based on 4.4.4 or 5.0?
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Well, considering all work on 4.4.4 has been dropped, you can expect to NOT get a 4.4.4 build again
#stayparanoid
Any idea on the timeframe of the first 5.0 based release? I've got the 5.0 release on my N7, but it's so slow. I'm excited to give it a try on my OPO.
We have never given etas because we don't know....
#stayparanoid
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We have never given etas because we don't know....
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Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
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Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
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No. We cannot provide any approximations at all. This shouldn't even be questionable.
A. We don't have time we can set aside for development. We fit stuff in when we can in between real life functions and responsibilities.
B. Everyone has a part of the development process. We all have to coordinate these efforts in order to produce something.
C. This is not our job. We try to do this for fun. A hobby. Would it be appropriate to ask when you will have something for me to play with from your hobby? Take RC cars for example. Let's say you like to build RC cars and some cool new gear was just released. Should I come to you and ask you, nay, tell you that you need to give me a date that I will be able to play with your new toy?
So, no, we cannot tell you a date or an approximate date for anything. It lands when it lands.
#stayparanoid
ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S. Nexus 4 owner here.
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ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
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franciscofranco said:
ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
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ArchieTor, can I get an ETA on when you will respond to franciscofranco? I need to know this ASAP.
Thx
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franciscofranco said:
ETA for when you stop asking for ETA? Sorry to be annoying, but I need an ETA.
Thanks.
#stayETAparanoid
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The past month on the G+ Community in a nutshell.
@NBruderman we are expecting 5.0 for S4 i9500 very soon. Have you made any progress so far, can't wait! You make the most stable builds till date.
ArchieTor said:
Hi,
I know I'm annoying, and I'm sorry for that.
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
"We're 50% sure it will be done in <month>, and we're absolutely sure it will be a rather stable beta by <month>. But don't think it will last so long, it will be probably available much, much earlier, those are just the worst scenarios."
Thanks for what you do for us,
Michael
P.S.: Nexus 4 owner here.
P.P.S.: Can you tell be if I have to wipe data to update to Lollipop? Because I would be able to test such things as CM12 meanwhile.
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The reason there's no ETAs given on things like this is because it's all superficial. For all you know, they found some drawbacks and you'll find a slightly disgruntled community that was expecting it then and didn't get it. It's best to just wait it off.
pa colors
Wil pa colors be able to use in 5.0?
I want to recolor my status bar (clock, battery etc.) but cannot in 4.4.4 version, would be so happy if we get back this option in lollipop???
Wow, as I sometimes read my posts, I'm gettin' even more motivated to prevent myself from getting in any contact with alcohol for a lifetime (Disclaimer: Never had it so far.)
Last time I had Internet access (I wasn't having it Dec 2—15), I wanted to write that I'm sorry, and I of course appreciate your work, and that I understand it's not your job, just hobby (I know there are people who think that all of the open-source software is created by companies employing programists for a cash and having profit from it in not-well-precised sources, and I ain't one of them), I wanted to highlight it with "Thank you for what you do for us", so you wouldn't think I expect an ETA in a way like a money-paying consumer would.
I was thinking about your response once again and now I understand you that you don't want to give an ETA, as it might become somehow disinformation, and some people involved would take it as inappropriate, as you can't just say for the whole team of volunteers how much work you're going to do during a certain period of time. When I tried to compare to compare the situation with my case (I'm creating simple Python programs (still just learning (the best way of learning to code is actually trying to create something new with just the very basic knowledge)) with just ~160 clones every month), in which if somebody asked me for an ETA, I might give one, but it would be inaccurate, and usually also be disinformation, and if I'd work with other people also considering it as a hobby, I wouldn't be sure whether to try to even very inaccurately estimate the time until next release or some fix.
So there, I know I'm being annoying, I'm sorry for that and I'm gonna try to stop it.
Cheers,
Michael
P.S.: Maybe you can't actually give a date, but can you provide a link to, for example, a stream of commit descriptions best to follow if I'd want to try to estimate when it'll be ready?
Follow +paranoid android on g+. Watch https://gerrit.paranoidandroid.co
#stayparanoid
But we need an ETA. I understand you can't provide such. But you can provide approximate times where it will be done, for example:
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One or two years. OK?
Hi Folks,
Everyone is eager to know "when can we get CM12 on Zenfone 2?".
We all are fed-up of the official ASUS builds .... (fast charging & fast draining technology together :laugh.
Are people working on building CM12 for ZF2 & when can we expect the first drop ?
Just a hint would also bring new hopes to most of us
I'm really excited to know about this
https://github.com/CM-zenfone2 ?
i guess everyone is wating for the same...
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https://github.com/CM-zenfone2 ��
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sorry, what does this mean? a CM build is already being worked on?
cjvzla said:
i guess everyone is wating for the same...
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sorry, what does this mean? a CM build is already being worked on?
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Yes, someone is working on it rightnow, and according to the commits, we will have a CM 12.1 rom for Zenfone 2 soon :good:
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Hi Folks,
Everyone is eager to know "when can we get CM12 on Zenfone 2?".
We all are fed-up of the official ASUS builds .... (fast charging & fast draining technology together :laugh.
Are people working on building CM12 for ZF2 & when can we expect the first drop ?
Just a hint would also bring new hopes to most of us
I'm really excited to know about this
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please..first rule of CM or XDA, never ask for ETA, and never ask or push developers to speed up their work or we will never get any of it..
just keep waiting and when the time has come, they will share it with us..just dont keep asking for ETA please.. and i hope that xda newcomer on zf2 forum must learn this word, NEVER ASK FOR ETA for any development..its a taboo here..
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We all are fed-up of the official ASUS builds .... (fast charging & fast draining technology together :laugh.
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I'm not. Something I learned some time back is that unless the kernel and device tree of the aftermarket ROM (like AOSP, or a derivative like CM) is developed by someone that knows every last nook can cranny of the device (as in the OEM, and I don't imagine that happening), the device won't be optimized out of the gate to provide better battery life than stock.
Hacking a device tree from scratch, rather than building on what the OEM has provided (albeit not knowing what route they are going with this one) spells problems. Of my two devices that I had custom ROMs for, neither worked fully (no matter which ROM you chose) or engaged more hardware (something was always missing or broken) , and the battery life was worse than stock (even with modest OS jump, from stock GB to ICS/CM9).
You can see how I voted, although I am not reserved to stock forever. CM13 or CM14 would be the time I would be interested in something other than stock, when the kernel and device tree becomes mature enough to prove myself wrong regarding the above.
The only thing I like in official FW is "double-tap to wake".
But it's actually not "double-tap to wake" because the phone never sleep.
When I watched CPU state with CPU Spy and found out Deep Sleep state never be used.
The reason why it's drain about 1%/hour even not connecting to anything.
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The only thing I like in official FW is "double-tap to wake".
But it's actually not "double-tap to wake" because the phone never sleep.
When I watched CPU state with CPU Spy and found out Deep Sleep state never be used.
The reason why it's drain about 1%/hour even not connecting to anything.
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I have DT2W active and I have deepsleep..try wiping everything, maybe you have some problem on the phone.
Everyone that wants CM, feel free to devote some time and help build it.
Please dont forget about ze550ml model
(Even if the roms look like they are pratically the same, except for DPI setting)
yeayyy cynogenmod for our zenfone 2 yeHaaaa
This thread should be closed..
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This thread should be closed..
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why? finally here we can discuss about development of cm12.1 that is already wip
waiting that the official thread is open
no eta, of course..
Harfainx said:
Everyone that wants CM, feel free to devote some time and help build it.
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Is there a github link? I've never contributed to any open source project but always wanted to
sarthak96 said:
Is there a github link? I've never contributed to any open source project but always wanted to
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Second post in this thread.
MatteXperiaU said:
why? finally here we can discuss about development of cm12.1 that is already wip
waiting that the official thread is open
no eta, of course..
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What about it would you like to discuss?
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What about it would you like to discuss?
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i don't know, unfortunately i can't help because i have no skills in development..but..maybe here we can follow the news and someone could join the work
Im reallly tired of Asus UI and i really need CM 12 but only if it's stable.
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i don't know, unfortunately i can't help because i have no skills in development..but..maybe here we can follow the news and someone could join the work
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You could follow here if you wanted. I believe the only thing you will get here with regards to CyanogenMod for the ZF2 will be the ROM post/thread when it is ready. I understand what you are getting at. My point was this particular thread should not have been made in the first place. A simple search would have yielded info the OP was looking for (with the exception of an ETA).
Shame on me but never saw any CM rom, not even from distance. Can someone link me some good source of picture/video so I can see some good/cool stuff about CM and decide if it is worth more than ASUS stock rom (which is pretty good by me)?
hello ive been waiting for pa from a long time ( just like all of u ) but looks like its not happening ,,, is it coming soon enuf or should i just try out other roms ? any suggestions for other roms ? im still on stock but looking to change now ,, thank you ,, appreciate your help
It will come ... Someday. If you'd like to try some ROMs, do it. It's pointless to wait for something that doesn't have an ETA.
When it eventually comes, switch to it, simple.
I've also been on stock (more or less, switching between stock stable, beta, FreedomOS and ExperienceOS) for a long time, mainly because of reports that camera isn't as good on custom ROMs. Then a few weeks ago I finally got myself to try Sultan's LineageOS and I don't regret it. Now I'm definitely not going back to stock ? I did install OOS camera port to keep the same camera experience and I have to say it works perfectly.
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Try vertexos. You'll know how it's better than many many ROMs , putting up to the quality OOS offers. The dev has put in very very high efforts in porting EAS which is a deep pixel exclusive to our device and has made it better than pixel itself. You need to try it out. The other awesome ROM around here is sultan's unofficial CM14 . you can use these until aospa comes.
Soon
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Soon
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hahahaa ,, i really hope so sir ... been waiting a long time ,, been a loyal user,, but idk why it has got everyone frustrated now ... youve literally told Soon from december ,, even may is going to start in a day ,, android O has come out too and yet the same Soon is said .. dont get me wrong sir ,, please dont ... dont mean to down your work but might as well release and then make it perfect i guess ? i mean even exodus was a long wait ( i have a opo too ) and y`all waited a long time to release saying it wud be perfect , but when you finally did ,, it was great but there were bugs right ? its like unavoidable no matter how hard we try ,, might as well release it ,, u get a large scale feedback which will just ease your work and help you ...
Carbon ROM is a good old ROM that just reborn. I would also like to see PA soon, but good stuff takes time.
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Try vertexos. You'll know how it's better than many many ROMs , putting up to the quality OOS offers. The dev has put in very very high efforts in porting EAS which is a deep pixel exclusive to our device and has made it better than pixel itself. You need to try it out. The other awesome ROM around here is sultan's unofficial CM14 . you can use these until aospa comes.
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hey , thanks but i dont understand what EAS is ,, after googling i found out it energy award schedule and its mentioned very detailed,, and i didnt understand a word of it .. can u like just tell me how does that help in simple term ? thank you ... and yes i will surely try the vertexos now ...
PA is the new Half-Life 3
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Definition of SOON
Seriously Overdue On Nougat.
Soon means that PA will come after new OP phone and android O is released and noone will use it, too bad.
dendi said:
hey , thanks but i dont understand what EAS is ,, after googling i found out it energy award schedule and its mentioned very detailed,, and i didnt understand a word of it .. can u like just tell me how does that help in simple term ? thank you ... and yes i will surely try the vertexos now ...
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It basically tweaks the system depending on your usage to save on battery without causing lag.
I made a twitter account 6-7 years ago. Then never logged in. From December I always log in to twitter just to see if there's any update of AOSPA from arter97 ? Everyday man, everyday.
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I made a twitter account 6-7 years ago. Then never logged in. From December I always log in to twitter just to see if there's any update of AOSPA from arter97 ? Everyday man, everyday.
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Same here, you are not alone
Yeah I check twitter, G+ and even official download page incase they drop it silently and go "MWHAHA" at everybody asking "ETA's"
S4turno said:
PA is the new Half-Life 3
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You deserved more for this post
ShiShTuBaBu said:
I made a twitter account 6-7 years ago. Then never logged in. From December I always log in to twitter just to see if there's any update of AOSPA from arter97 Everyday man, everyday.
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Same here man !
Looks like they are preparing for something: https://gerrit.aospa.co/#/c/2480/
Alex Naidis states that the code review is skipped due to "time pressure".
Miksel12 said:
Looks like they are preparing for something: https://gerrit.aospa.co/#/c/2480/
Alex Naidis states that the code review is skipped due to "time pressure".
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Could be anything
Miksel12 said:
Looks like they are preparing for something: https://gerrit.aospa.co/#/c/2480/
Alex Naidis states that the code review is skipped due to "time pressure".
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It was for sound recorder. Meh.
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AOSPA never gonna be released. Their trademark should be FOREVER^TM.
Even Google released the beta android O to test it out.
The release cycle of PA is quite frustrating. Only gonna release of the rom if its stable. What's the point? I'm sure there will be plenty of bugs even after the release.
They should allow users to beta test build so that they can get more feedback to work on, instead of searching for them on their own.
It's been a month from their last post regarding some new update. What's the point of posting a comeback pic if are not gonna keep the fans informed about the rom.
I know we are not paying them and they are doing it in free time but their new egoistic approach towards the release cycle has made things worse to the loyal fans of PA. It's sad that I've to say this one day.
Hope PA stop making further development and stop damaging the name of the best rom during his days.
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It was for sound recorder. Meh.
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AOSPA never gonna be released. Their trademark should be FOREVER^TM.
Even Google released the beta android O to test it out.
The release cycle of PA is quite frustrating. Only gonna release of the rom if its stable. What's the point? I'm sure there will be plenty of bugs even after the release.
They should allow users to beta test build so that they can get more feedback to work on, instead of searching for them on their own.
It's been a month from their last post regarding some new update. What's the point of posting a comeback pic if are not gonna keep the fans informed about the rom.
I know we are not paying them and they are doing it in free time but their new egoistic approach towards the release cycle has made things worse to the loyal fans of PA. It's sad that I've to say this one day.
Hope PA stop making further development and stop damaging the name of the best rom during his days.
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I think they are very close to release ASOPA, though I'm agree with you. They should have let us test.
Is there any custom ROM that is still active and updated? If not, what is the best stable ROM that is based on Android Oreo or Pie? I don't care about visual stuff, just performance and stability.
Bye
Then what is the latest stable version based on any ROM? I know it's a very old device, but it's still working fine
Bye
Galaxy Tab 3 8" (T310)
Bye
Droehnemeier said:
Now were we're talking. This a good piece of work IMO:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/development/rom-cm14-1-t310-t3493393/page176
Cheers
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But isn't this ROM old from 2016?
Bye
Droehnemeier said:
Bro, PM whenever you find a newer one. Bye know-it-all
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If I was a know it all guy I wouldn't ask for help. BTW, did you read at least the title of my post? I asked for an active updated ROM and you sent me to a thread from 2016. So you are the "know it all".
You will receive no further help.
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You will receive no further help.
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"No further help"? You didn't help at all!
In my opinion I gave a recommendation for the newest piece of software. The 'further help' means I was the only one of almost 600 people that helped though your OP wasn't accurate.
If you don't like what you get, just say 'thx' next time and keep the rest. Otherwise you will receive no further help, from no one.
So you now speak on behalf of all XDA users? You answered to my question and I just pointed out that the ROM is old. And you freaked out like an insecure child. I'm not asking for help from you anymore and you keep posting in a way that shows you took it personally. Anyway, 'thx" for nothing again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-3/development-7/custom-rom-sweet-dreams-v1-t211-t2983304
Go here for latest stable rom.
Wrong device @havoc69. He's got an 8inch. And even 7.1.2 is too old for him. I bet he's already on Android T
Btw Rom is Security Level July 2019 ??
Is there anyone who knows that when complete kernel source will get released.
And when will get a custom rom our device.
Asked mi forum
Just empty promise like usual
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Is there anyone who knows that when complete kernel source will get released.
And when will get a custom rom our device.
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Kernel is complete just we have to wait for devlopers to get the device and we will see roms in December I guess:fingers-crossed:
Its already december
Are there any mtk devices that got proper custom ROM support ever? I'm talking official releases not barely working ports
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Kernel is complete just we have to wait for devlopers to get the device and we will see roms in December I guess:fingers-crossed:
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HOW do you know that? Everyone seems to share all kinds of news about this device like they work for Mediatek but there is never any proof of what they say... STOP spreading misinformation!!!!
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Its already december
Are there any mtk devices that got proper custom ROM support ever? I'm talking official releases not barely working ports
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I've searched far and wide for the same and i didn't find any ROM for any phone with a Mediatek chipset.
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HOW do you know that? Everyone seems to share all kinds of news about this device like they work for Mediatek but there is never any proof of what they say... STOP spreading misinformation!!!!
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Lol, I am in the devlopment team it's juat that we need some solution foe that authorised account sh*t, So we are not much focusing on roms ???
girishjangir7 said:
Lol, I am in the devlopment team it's juat that we need some solution foe that authorised account sh*t, So we are not much focusing on roms
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Care to share which ROM you're in the dev team of? I'm sorry but the one thing being a member of XDA for close to 8 years had taught me is that some people like to lie about being a developer. It's such an inconvenience to other members that want to experience something positive.
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Care to share which ROM you're in the dev team of? I'm sorry but the one thing being a member of XDA for close to 8 years had taught me is that some people like to lie about being a developer. It's such an inconvenience to other members that want to experience something positive.
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Yeah i can share check official redmi note 8 pro telegram we just need testers but they are hard to get coz of that authorised account:crying: