Anyway to override slow wireless charging? - Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers

Is there a way to override slow wireless charging and get the rapid speeds like with the pixel stand?

Right now the only way is to get a Pixel Stand. They are partnering with other companies (such as Belkin) to make a certified "made for Google" line of chargers that will support the fast charging. Unclear if it will enable the other Pixel Stand features like the sunrise alarm, photos, etc.
https://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F7U050-MG/
Hopefully other companies make some cheaper options that can use the fast charging.

Would be great if there was a patch to trick the Pixel 3 phone into thinking it was attached to a pixel stand.

swieder711 said:
Would be great if there was a patch to trick the Pixel 3 phone into thinking it was attached to a pixel stand.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right exactly my thoughts, nobody can figure this out with root? We have a custom kernel maybe it can edit in power from charging idk
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

oneandroidnut said:
Right exactly my thoughts, nobody can figure this out with root? We have a custom kernel maybe it can edit in power from charging idk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I would look around in the kernel threads to test the possibility. My N7 is running EX Kernel and it (using EXKM) still has a "USB Fastcharge" toggle. I do not see this option in the N6P, P2XL or P3XL though. The advent of USB-C and PD may have changed things on the newer phones. My guess is that it is not available or flar2 would have included it. That being said, I do have the Google Stand and I can tell you it is NOT "all that". I would have been just as happy with a slow charging "dumb" wireless charger. I would never have purchased it if it was not half price on BF. On previous phones, I almost exclusively used the wireless charging overnight so speed was never an issue.

v12xke said:
Yes, I would look around in the kernel threads to test the possibility. My N7 is running EX Kernel and it (using EXKM) still has a "USB Fastcharge" toggle. I do not see this option in the N6P, P2XL or P3XL though. The advent of USB-C and PD may have changed things on the newer phones. My guess is that it is not available or flar2 would have included it. That being said, I do have the Google Stand and I can tell you it is NOT "all that". I would have been just as happy with a slow charging "dumb" wireless charger. I would never have purchased it if it was not half price on BF. On previous phones, I almost exclusively used the wireless charging overnight so speed was never an issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll trade you one of my cheaper wireless chargers then for the pixel stand!
And I still agree there has to be a way toggle that or edit it in for different wireless chargers
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

Last I read about the P3XL and wireless charging is related to the standard the charger has. There was something about a security check before fast charge was enabled, everyone else charges at the lower rate. Right now there is only one charger I have read about besides the P Stand that works.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

Related

Wireless charging adapter blocked?

Maybe a noob question here, but I was hoping to get wireless charging on my 2XL with a Nilken USB-C adapter. Works great on my N6P, but on the Pixel 2XL I get no charge. It registers as charging, but the battery % never goes up, even after an hour+. Is there an obvious reason why? I can't find any info anywhere.
Suggestions on getting wireless charging working?
Can't wirelessly charge a phone with a metal backing
If you really need wireless charging, there are USB-C pads that you mount inside a case. Check Amazon
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
abuttino said:
Can't wirelessly charge a phone with a metal backing
If you really need wireless charging, there are USB-C pads that you mount inside a case. Check Amazon
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is my point. I bought a Nilken USB-C wireless charging adapter for my Pixel 2 XL. It works on my Nexus 6P fine, but won't charge my 2XL. Seems weird to me.
This is what I'm using:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y5FDXD4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
My Pixel 2 XL will only charge with my old Pixel XL or the new one that was shipped with the phone. Even my car charger won't charge up the new pixel. I get the charging icon in the display but it always stays at the same charge?
Maybe your in the same boat as I am in?
That it will only charge with the Pixel chargers (old or new)?
Anyone else having this issue??
That link is for the short version. I'd think being the XL you'd want the long version.
That would suck. I need to be able to charge the phone while using it for navigation for long-distance road trips.
ewizzle78 said:
That is my point. I bought a Nilken USB-C wireless charging adapter for my Pixel 2 XL. It works on my Nexus 6P fine, but won't charge my 2XL. Seems weird to me.
This is what I'm using:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y5FDXD4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the exact adapter I used for my Pixel XL and my wife's Pixel. We quit using them because quick charging is sooo much faster.
murphdsurf said:
My Pixel 2 XL will only charge with my old Pixel XL or the new one that was shipped with the phone. Even my car charger won't charge up the new pixel. I get the charging icon in the display but it always stays at the same charge?
Maybe your in the same boat as I am in?
That it will only charge with the Pixel chargers (old or new)?
Anyone else having this issue??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, that sucks! Ive been using my Samsung charger without any issues, and I double checked my off brand car charger and it was working fine. Charging normal as far as I can tell. If you can't charge with normal chargers, might want to RMA...
murphdsurf said:
My Pixel 2 XL will only charge with my old Pixel XL or the new one that was shipped with the phone. Even my car charger won't charge up the new pixel. I get the charging icon in the display but it always stays at the same charge?
Maybe your in the same boat as I am in?
That it will only charge with the Pixel chargers (old or new)?
Anyone else having this issue??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried charging last night with a standard low amp iPhone charger and I didn't get any charge at all, even though the charge light was on. Seems the Pixel 2 XL wont charge with low amp chargers? I was able to charge on a high amp car charger. Try that maybe?
That's what I thought, thankfully I have 2 pixel chargers now, (1 from my old Pixel XL and the new one)
Another note:
Had to RMA my brand new Pixel 2 XL as phone calls could only be heard from the speaker not the earpiece itself. I thought we had fixed this issue previously when I called into Google Support and we wiped the phone thus fixing the no sound issue but I noticed this past Saturday that it came back!
New phone should be here Tuesday or Wednesday.
Don't think the Pixel 2 launch this year was as smooth as Google would have liked!
It charges me with the turbo charger from the N6 as well as 2 port charger I have in my truck. It just says charging, not slowly or rapidly... The 2 port quick charger was for the N6.
A wireless charging coil that works with this phone would be great. I am somewhat invested into qi technology with the cradle in the truck and the stand on the night stand.
Larzzzz82 said:
It charges me with the turbo charger from the N6 as well as 2 port charger I have in my truck. It just says charging, not slowly or rapidly... The 2 port quick charger was for the N6.
A wireless charging coil that works with this phone would be great. I am somewhat invested into qi technology with the cradle in the truck and the stand on the night stand.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seems like because the qi adapters are not fast charging, and the Pixel 2 doesn't seem to charge at all with low power chargers, wireless charging might not be an option yet. Inwas hoping too! Awesome to just thrown the phone on the cradle at night and no wires to f with. Maybe another battery case manufacturer will make a battery case with wireless charging again.
ewizzle78 said:
That is my point. I bought a Nilken USB-C wireless charging adapter for my Pixel 2 XL. It works on my Nexus 6P fine, but won't charge my 2XL. Seems weird to me.
This is what I'm using:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y5FDXD4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the same wireless add-on and it used to work brilliantly on my OG Pixel, but you are correct - I can't get it to work with my 2 XL. Like yours, it says "charging" but the percentage doesn't move overnight. Interestingly, I don't think it reduces in power either (I haven't been paying close attention, but I'm pretty sure I've woken up to the same % each morning that I fell asleep to). I will try again tonight.
The short vs long version of the hardware are identical except that one is longer for when it's in a case you can center it on a flat qi base, so that won't make a difference.
Very strange. I do have a fast charging wireless charger on order that I will try when it arrives, but I'm not confident it will solve the problem.
I got this one tonight and it seems to work just fine: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074SHBXC5/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
steelersmb said:
I got this one tonight and it seems to work just fine: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074SHBXC5/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which version did you get?
Snow02 said:
Which version did you get?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Type C Long Version. It should be the last one.
​
steelersmb said:
I got this one tonight and it seems to work just fine: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074SHBXC5/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Snow02 said:
Which version did you get?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting! I'm gonna try it just in case. Maybe the charging pad makes a difference. Which one are you using?
ewizzle78 said:
​
Interesting! I'm gonna try it just in case. Maybe the charging pad makes a difference. Which one are you using?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a Choetech T520.
steelersmb said:
I got this one tonight and it seems to work just fine: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074SHBXC5/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have a Pixel 2 or a Pixel 2 XL?
steelersmb said:
I have a Choetech T520.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my charger looks similar. What powder brick are you using? I have a 3 different 2a wireless charging pads, and have been using the Samsung quick charger and still can't get any juice to my Pixel 2XL. I wonder if a USBC to MicroUSB will make a difference? But I don't see why...
So curious why this doesn't work!

Belkin 10wt wireless charger coming

Belkin BOOSTUP Wireless Charging Pad 10W for Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL is coming in time. It will ACTUALLY charge at 10watts wirelessly like the Google wireless pad, but it will NOT do the extra tricks that the Google wireless pad does.
60$ USD
So $20 cheaper than google's charger. But you don't get the standing charger. And like Bukem75 said you wont get the Wireless tricks that do pixel charger does. But i'm sure that's not a problem with people here at XDA someone might come out with a modded apk or something to fix that.
Why not just buy the Pixel Stand?
mitchdickson said:
Why not just buy the Pixel Stand?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same... Waiting on my $50 store credit.
Bukem75 said:
Belkin BOOSTUP Wireless Charging Pad 10W for Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL is coming in time. It will ACTUALLY charge at 10watts wirelessly like the Google wireless pad, but it will NOT do the extra tricks that the Google wireless pad does.
60$ USD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I pretty much avoid anything by belkin, so i'll pass on that. I also can't get myself to buy the Pixel Stand on principal, basically forcing their own proprietary wireless charging spec instead of just using the one everyone else uses. I would totally be interested if their proprietary standard was there just for their enhanced features, but I have fast wireless chargers everywhere (including my car) that are now limited to slow charging because they wanted to force the sale of their accessories.
Hoping someone researches the fast wireless charging issue to see if it's just a software limitation on the Qi fast wireless charging.
bveditz said:
I pretty much avoid anything by belkin, so i'll pass on that. I also can't get myself to buy the Pixel Stand on principal, basically forcing their own proprietary wireless charging spec instead of just using the one everyone else uses. I would totally be interested if their proprietary standard was there just for their enhanced features, but I have fast wireless chargers everywhere (including my car) that are now limited to slow charging because they wanted to force the sale of their accessories.
Hoping someone researches the fast wireless charging issue to see if it's just a software limitation on the Qi fast wireless charging.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correction, everyone else is using proprietary technology for fast wireless charging. The Qi standard is used by all brands up to 5w. After that, Samsung built it's own tech to reach 10w and apple did something else to reach 7.5w. All the chargers on the market these days have been forced to support 3 different charging specs because of this.
Now, Google COULD use the Qi spec for charging faster than 5w, but for whatever reason, it chose not to and is now adding a 4th wireless charging tech to the market that nobody asked for.
This reminds me of the wired fast charging cluster f**k between QC, FC, SC, PD, VOOC, and DASH. There's clearly one tech that is superior to the others, and yet, here we are, 3 years later, still trying to figure out which charging brick can work with what phone.
I prefer the slower wireless chargers to extend battery life. Use the plugin brick when traveling. Replacing the battery in this thing is not a simple task.

[Q]is fast charging

Is fast charge software based, or hardware? Can custom ROMs unlock this feature so any wireless charger can be used to fast charge?
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
i dont know the technicial limitations of wireless charging (someone else will need to chime in there) but this mod allows wireless charging to act a little faster (i'm not sure if it's true "fast charging"):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/themes/root-faster-wireless-charging-using-t3900643
chewy74 said:
Is fast charge software based, or hardware? Can custom ROMs unlock this feature so any wireless charger can be used to fast charge?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. Just buy a Belkin (Google version). They go on sale all the time. Other than the Pixel stand, the Belkin is the only other one I am aware of that will fast charge.
v12xke said:
No. Just buy a Belkin (Google version). They go on sale all the time. Other than the Pixel stand, the Belkin is the only other one I am aware of that will fast charge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Portable charger type c to type c works too
I remember some people experience issues trying to fast charge with wireless chargers not authorized by google. You can mod stuff to do it, but if it breaks your phone you have no recourse.

Fast Wireless Chargers

Does anyone have a recommendation for a fast wireless charger? The official Google stand is crazy expensive and doesn't actually meet the max capabilities (12W EPP)
I wonder if the Samsung one i have will work ??
TokedUp said:
I wonder if the Samsung one i have will work ??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I was looking at that one, an Anker one and a Spigen one.
Hey guys,
Let me know what you ultimately find. This will be my first phone with wireless charging so never looked at the wireless charger market. Would love to see which options you guys think are best.
Sent from my OnePlus7Pro using XDA Labs
rav101 said:
Hey guys,
Let me know what you ultimately find. This will be my first phone with wireless charging so never looked at the wireless charger market. Would love to see which options you guys think are best.
Sent from my OnePlus7Pro using XDA Labs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got this one does the job 10w
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8345262?clickSR=slp:term:wireless charger:3:30:1
jaythenut said:
I got this one does the job 10w
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8345262?clickSR=slp:term:wireless charger:3:30:1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks buddy, will check it out!
Sent from my Pixel 5 using XDA Labs
There's loads of 15w wireless chargers on Amazon, I'm sure they probably all do the job more or less as well as eachother
The Pixel Stand is buggy as hell with the Pixel 5 (or maybe the other way around?). So you might be better off sticking with USB-C for the time being anyway.
TokedUp said:
I wonder if the Samsung one i have will work ??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a samsung one from 2015 and it works fine with my pixel 5
I was thinking of trying this one. Rated upto 15w https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07YD77RKC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WSyJFb1A4YY11
I've never had any bad experiences with Anker.
For max output doesnt the charger need to be google certified!
I'm asking because, as far as the Pixel 3 goes, that was the case. The Pixel stand, from reading, was the only wireless charger that was compatible in that sense.
Anyone willing to shine light on this?
dirtyreturn said:
For max output doesnt the charger need to be google certified!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the charger needs to support EPP (Extended Power Profile )
Ragingsheep said:
I think the charger needs to support EPP (Extended Power Profile )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does the Pixel stand have that , then, do you know?
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
I assume so?
I bought Yootech wireless charger for my Pixel 4, it also works at around 10W with Pixel 5. I've not tested many, but from what I've seen on some forums most of the chargers would only work at 5W with P4. Not sure if anything has changed with P5. I'm using it with the original Pixel 18W charger, as I bought it without one.
wireless charger
underfrykte said:
I bought Yootech wireless charger for my Pixel 4, it also works at around 10W with Pixel 5. I've not tested many, but from what I've seen on some forums most of the chargers would only work at 5W with P4. Not sure if anything has changed with P5. I'm using it with the original Pixel 18W charger, as I bought it without one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I bought the Yootech too, fantastic quality (aluminium and glass) paired with my QC4 charger but I think it only charges at 10w - which is fine for me, only a tenner!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/yootech-Pr...ess+charger+yootech+15w&qid=1603190935&sr=8-9
kinny314 said:
I bought the Yootech too, fantastic quality (aluminium and glass) paired with my QC4 charger but I think it only charges at 10w - which is fine for me, only a tenner!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/yootech-Pr...ess+charger+yootech+15w&qid=1603190935&sr=8-9
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've not used wireless charging since the Nexus 4 and 5 and i thought it was pretty crap but owning a Pixel 5 has once again sparked my interest and i like the look of that one, seems great for the cash.
I'm just going to buy the MagSafe since it seems to work from most articles I've seen
kinny314 said:
I bought the Yootech too, fantastic quality (aluminium and glass) paired with my QC4 charger but I think it only charges at 10w - which is fine for me, only a tenner!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/yootech-Pr...ess+charger+yootech+15w&qid=1603190935&sr=8-9
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well i ended up buying one and although it is very well made and charges quickly i didn't like how hot my phone got when left on it overnight to charge so I'll be sending it back. This isn't a fault of the charger though more a side effect of the technology, it is just a shame it doesn't cut off totally at 100%. If you are going to be using it to just top up for the odd hour or so it is hard not to recommend it though, it is hard to believe they only want a tenner for it to be honest, a great find by kinny314.
dirtyreturn said:
Does the Pixel stand have that , then, do you know?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Per Google's Pixel 5 page:
Wireless charging rates for Pixel 5 up to 12 W charging with Qi certified EPP charger (sold separately). Actual results may be slower. Qi certified.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Question Does your pixel charger 2 work as intended?

My pixel charger 2 arrived yesterday and isn't working at all with my pixel 6 pro. I pairs with bluetooth and gives me all the controls and features, but the phone won't charge as it should.
It charges for 3 seconds and then disconnects.
It charges for 3 seconds and then disconnects.
It charges for 3 seconds and then disconnects.
And this the whole time. All my other devices work perfectly with the charger and my pixel 6 pro works perfectly with all other wireless charger (for example in my tesla model 3).
Does anyone other face this issue and found a fix?
Thanks for your help!
Did you read this article?
‘High-power’ 21/23W charging on Pixel 6 & Pro with new Pixel Stand requires December update​
'High-power' 21/23W charging on Pixel 6 & Pro with new Pixel Stand requires December update
With Google's 2nd-gen wireless charger now arriving, some are noticing that they're not getting faster speeds. A Pixel 6 Stand update...
9to5google.com
Is your issue caused by old software?
No, I have the latest December update installed.
SQ1D.211205.016.A1
I got my Pixel Stand 2 and charging works without an issue. Maybe you got a defective unit. Best try to get another phone and put that one on the charger, if the problem persists, it's probably a defect.
Morgrain said:
I got my Pixel Stand 2 and charging works without an issue. Maybe you got a defective unit. Best try to get another phone and put that one on the charger, if the problem persists, it's probably a defect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Other devices work perfect with the charger. And my phone charges perfectly with other wireless chargers. Only Pixel 6 Pro + Pixel Wireless Charger 2 doesn't work
matze19999 said:
Other devices work perfect with the charger. And my phone charges perfectly with other wireless chargers. Only Pixel 6 Pro + Pixel Wireless Charger 2 doesn't work
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, that's just odd. Did you ensure that all Apps are up to date? The Pixel Stand App is a standalone app that is updated through the Play Store.
What about the case. Maybe too thick?
Morgrain said:
Well, that's just odd. Did you ensure that all Apps are up to date? The Pixel Stand App is a standalone app that is updated through the Play Store.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, I didn't know that. I installed now the latest version from APK mirror but the phone won't charge
TonikJDK said:
What about the case. Maybe too thick?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I removed it, didn't change anything
im not totally convinced mine is charging any faster than my other 15w charger
skimminstones said:
im not totally convinced mine is charging any faster than my other 15w charger
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm convinced mine is charging at a higher rate than 15W.
Working absolutely fine here.
Testet at night with low ventilation. Tested daylight. Everything as it should.
"Realign phone for faster charging". Yeah, what crap is this. If I use any of my cases it says this. What bull****. BTW I have the december update installed.
San Diego said:
"Realign phone for faster charging". Yeah, what crap is this. If I use any of my cases it says this. What bull****. BTW I have the december update installed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had that message with the Spigen Tough Armor case, but when I switched to the Spigen Liquid Air case I no longer get that message.
Maybe your cases are too thick? I know I had issues with the Tough Armor on my OnePlus 8 Pro and now the P6P.
Should it say charging rapidly when on the charger or just charging wirelessly? Mine says the later.
skimminstones said:
Should it say charging rapidly when on the charger or just charging wirelessly? Mine says the later.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Pixel Stand 2 has three charging modi: Slow, Adaptive and Fast ("boost") - which one did you chose?
Morgrain said:
The Pixel Stand 2 has three charging modi: Slow, Adaptive and Fast ("boost") - which one did you chose?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's on the max setting. I just thought it would charge faster so not sure if it's meant to say charging rapidly or not, like it does if you use a rapid cable charger
A
skimminstones said:
It's on the max setting. I just thought it would charge faster so not sure if it's meant to say charging rapidly or not, like it does if you use a rapid cable charger
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Alright, I tried it out on my stand and even though it charged rapidly (looked up the Amps going in with AccuBattery), the AOD just says "charging wirelessly" - I guess Google removed the "rapid charging" notice with wireless charging.
Update: ignore that realign message. I'm using a case that is of normal case thickness (2-3mm) and using the Ampere app have verified I'm charging at 23W , the max allowed by the stand. Pow. Done.
Mine works fine apart from adaptive charging, charging the phone well before the alarm rendering it pretty much pointless

Categories

Resources