Looking at root - OOS vs Lineage OS - OnePlus 5T Questions & Answers

Hi All,
So I recently got a oneplus 5T for work, mostly due to it being great at customising and the dual sim.
Being the tinkerer I am I am looking at either just using stock with franko kernel and magisk to have things like viper and energized.
But also there is lineage, but I can't see the point compared to OOS, plus camera quality seems to be lower from reports, plus I am seeing reports of shutter speed issues.
I know a lot of people will say its pointless to root now, but I still enjoy it and there are some features that you cant get in stock, and google pay works via magisk hide it seems, for how long I don't know.
Thoughts
Thanks

On the OnePlus 3T I loved some of the custom ROMs that were offered because of their features. Now with the 5T I find myself wanting to stay with OOS as I have better battery life, better picture quality, good gesture-based navigation, and some other features that I've grown too accustomed to to live without (app-locker, alert slider, etc). Root and substratum work just great with OOS and I don't find myself missing many features from LOS or GZR. You'll definitely have less features than RR, but personally I feel like the OOS stability is worth it. My $0.02

I haven't used LOS on OP5t however used plenty of LOS roms. OOS is buttery smooth and has a lot of features that were in the past reserved for custom roms. I am content with stock pie beta OOS. I'll probably install custom roms either if a stable miui comes available (not holding my breath) or Android Q rom is available

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What's your daily driver?

For the past couple of months, I'm just Rom hopping from one to another. I can't figure out the one perfect Rom. And, I'm kind of tired, really. So, I want to stick with one Rom for now.Seriously guys, What's your daily driver? I really(desperately) want your opinion.
I did a lot of ROM hopping, too. After all, my favorites are (in that order):
1. LineageOS 14.1 by dianlujitao
2. Resurrection Remix 7.1.1 official by sud.vastav
3. Experience ROM v10.1 by jamal2367
Currently I (have to) run Experience ROM, since I cannot connect to 4G networks on CM/Lineage based ROMs for whatever reason (weird, because OOS based works fine, still would prefer to return to Lineage).
Hope that helps.
Cheers
My only issue with non stock roms is Camera. How's Camera quality on lineageOS? I've tried resurrection remix and camera quality was ok. Paranoid Android has a great camera, but, has some minor bugs (deal breaker for me)
Did LineageOS something new compared with CM in terms of stability and performance?
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Since back in october when I bought this phone I`ve been tested like almost all roms (CM, RR, Paranoid, AOKP, Omni, etc) - like 90% of them and in the final I stayed up on FreedomOS 1.7 (3.2.8 OOS based) with ElementalX MM kernel and AKT scripts. I get as a daily basis at least 5 hrs sot (if I have enough time to use the phone that much ) or at least 24hrs with no charge, or more with almost 2 hrs calls, 2-3 hrs sot, sync on, mobile data on/wifi on and location on (battery saving). The main things that this to help is to be around my hometown since its mandatory that carrier signal to be good for that battery use. In a week-end went in a mountain zone with some friends and because phone had a bad signal (also had mobile data turned on) I got abt 17 hrs battery with like almost 2 hrs sot. I won`t move to Android N yet, because all that it brings, at least so far, isn`t that huge improvement compared with MM.
Another thing that kept me on stock was (and still is) the photo quality and the GPS performance since I`m using navigation alot(waze) when I`m driving around in my area.
Edit: I use the phone with both dual sims online btw.
Yeah, same here. All this roms are cool, but, camera quality is just not there yet. And that is a big deal breaker for me. I try every new rom in a hope that it would be comparable to oos (I know oneplus has tightly integrated their camera's with system that it is difficult to extract into apk, but, god it would be awesome)
apk ports aren`t the thing to get camera performance. It`s the kernel that makes that work. Else you`ll get only a more processed image, and processing images can`t be made to work in all taking pictures conditions.
Oh I see. So, if the Oneplus releases the kernel sources, why is the camera quality still an issue?
Stock OOS 4.0.2 with Unlocked Bootloader, TWRP and SuperSU, also running latest ElementalX Kernel, so far its a good combination, also unbloated the Stock OOS with a Script from the Community, battery life could be better but its okay.
freedomOS MM with ElementalX. I'd love to try over ROMs but for whatever reason all the ones I have tried don't let me use the hardware home button...
Experience rom since its oos based. Used freedom in MM but both roms are similar
After testing dozens of roms i finally decided to stick with Experience rom v10.1.
Combined with latest kernel r7 franco build wich provides zero idle battery drain and using akt fusion performance profile,i have best performance with zero lags and great battery times(6+sot).Definitely recomend for daily driver.The reason i stick with oos roms is for the camera wich i want to get every time the true potential
Open Beta 11 & so on, now with blu_spark.
FreedomOS since i got my phone, love the ROM. Kernel is bluspark
Interesting. I've to give a try to akt scripts now.
I also tried a lot of ROMS... OOS 4.0, LOS14.1, CM13... and the best one for me is:
sultan's CM13 with SuperSU, Xposed and ForceDoze
This is IMHO the smoothest and most bugfree ROM. I'm using it since 1 month now, and I'm always getting 7-8h SOT (Wifi, BT, 4G, GPS, auto-brightness, everything turned always on). On light usage battery lasts for 3 days with 5-6h SOT. I also never experienced random reboots like on OOS or other ROMs.
I really wished to use Nougat, but this ROM is just better than Nougat. Also thanks to Android N-Ify I'm not missing anything from Nougat.
latest Open Beta is my DD
no point in adding specific version numbers - major versions only IMO
Slim is super smooth and has insane battery life.
What about camera quality?
FreeDom stable, not ce-cb, it's my favorite. Experience, it's good too.
LineageOS by Flo071

Which ROM to go with?

As all of you know there is types of ROMs for this device like RR, LOS, OOS, DirtyUnicorns and many more.
I'm leaving OOS for now due to low customization chances and I'd like to ask your opinions about all these ROM's. There is a LOT of Q&A threads about the right ROM but none of those matched my requirements.
First of all ,the most important and the reason I wiped OOS, the fingerprint unlock should be as fast as OOS. Of course there should be good battery life and performance duo which is impossible to find together.
But the most important ones are customizations and fingerprint unlock speed.
Thanks in advance for helping me out.
I have the same problem to decide, because so many possibilities make decision difficult.
If you want features, features, features and customization Resurrection Remix is the best, you get everything. With the unofficial versions you get some extras like battery optimization and kernel optimization etc. I don't know, how good this is. I only have a short look at the features.
Dirty Unicorns hasn't as much features as RR, but enough for most people. I don't know, how good performance and battery life is. Only have a short look at it.
At the moment I use LineAge OS with sultanxda kernel, it has great battery life and camera should be great, people write, I don't test it really
But it's only LineAge with LineAge features, nothing more. Enough for me, if I am honest, but if you want to customize everything, take Resurrection Remix.
There are many other nice ROMs, but they have the same or fewer features than Resurrection Remix. Here and there some optimizations, other kernels etc. I don't see anything special. Perhaps someone can tell us more.
There are so many ROMs like crDroid, LegendRom, Vertex, AOSP, Phoenix, DarkRom, AICIP, AOKP, Omni, Slim and million more. I test some and watch videos about, but it all has typical features like Resurrection remix has. I think, they are optimized for battery or performance and things like that. Would be nice to have a good comparision, because you can't see the trees in the forest
charackthe said:
As all of you know there is types of ROMs for this device like RR, LOS, OOS, DirtyUnicorns and many more.
I'm leaving OOS for now due to low customization chances and I'd like to ask your opinions about all these ROM's. There is a LOT of Q&A threads about the right ROM but none of those matched my requirements.
First of all ,the most important and the reason I wiped OOS, the fingerprint unlock should be as fast as OOS. Of course there should be good battery life and performance duo which is impossible to find together.
But the most important ones are customizations and fingerprint unlock speed.
Thanks in advance for helping me out.
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That decision is very personal, I bought OP3 2 months ago and since day one flashed like 25 roms, now I'm very happy on Phoenix AEX. All I need, no more.
My method was like this, downloaded almost all the ROMs, flashed with basic gapps, make no config at all and just go and see the personalization options, basic for me is center clock, tiles layout, button mapper. No option for that? Next ROM, at the end, with the ROMs I kept, flashed again with basic configs (no custom kernel, akt, tweaks, etc) and tested 2 or 3 days to see the performance, stability and battery life.
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I tried all of them too.. Finally settled with experience lite rom
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Pixel Experience VS AOSP Extended ?

Guys your reviews on Pixel Experience VS AOSP Extended
Pixel Experience - https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/rom-pixel-experience-t3830197
AOSP Extended - https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/aospextended-rom-v6-0-t3866161
Note: Just want to get out from MIUI and use pie rom with no root(magisk) and mods (use as stock)...
(I don't have to time to test each rom (so don't say test yourself), I have short listed these two, so please give suggestions between these two)
Aex 6.1
I used PE for over month, its good but sometime its buggy, battery and performance is not as good as on miui eu rom which I recently switched to, but from my testing pie ROMs Pixel experience is most stable
Resurrection remix is the best.
Using Pixel Experience for almost 2 days now. All I can say is its really stable even with magisk and some modules.
So, yes, we could say try this two and make your own opinion ? plus, as my friend above said Resurrection remix last rom looks promising. Maybe I should give a try...
Cheers
There is no "better" rom here. You are comparing apples and oranges. PE is simple, fast, without any customisation or fancy tricks. AOSP has a ****load of customisation but dont know about stability. I personally dont care about gimmicks like internet speed in statusbar etc., So i use PE and dont have anything negative to say. It works great.

Question Best custom ROM?

Been trying to figure this out for a while now. I want a ROM with comparable performance, features, and battery life to that of OOS.
LuckyTheCoder said:
Been trying to figure this out for a while now. I want a ROM with comparable performance, features, and battery life to that of OOS.
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Best is subjective because everyone has a different taste. the best thing is if you look at the roms that are available for the 9p yourself and test them
I've tried quite a few times, and am currently on Nameless A13. A lot of features from OOS haven't been ported just yet, but A12 Nameless had quite a few things there. Don't know if you'll ever get a full OOS experience on any of the custom roms.
As far as performance and battery life, Nameless has been the best. Far better than OOS 12 or 13. Customization varies between roms with CRDroid seeming to have the most customizations. I just prefer Nameless because it seems the most close to stock it terms of interface, without all the bloat. It's all preference though. If you want stability, A12 roms are probably your answer for now until the 13 roms catch up. But if you want the latest and greatest, you could try a 13 custom rom.
In my opinion, better A12.1 is ancient os and better A13 tequila os.
paclaco said:
In my opinion, better A12.1 is ancient os and better A13 tequila os.
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Tequila is great! I just prefer Nameless because of the default OP camera and seems to have more support and updates
Oc....nameless is great, but battery Life is worst than tequila to me.
Oss cam are great but with gcam and a good config file i take better pics than oss cam.
I was on CrDroid since I bought phone in summer. After trying OOS13 beta I went back to CrDroid but I had issues with fingerprint since then. Whenever I needed it I had to restart phone to get it work.
Now I am on Nameless since A13 and I can recommend it. No issues with it whatsoever.
kodayoda713 said:
I've tried quite a few times, and am currently on Nameless A13. A lot of features from OOS haven't been ported just yet, but A12 Nameless had quite a few things there. Don't know if you'll ever get a full OOS experience on any of the custom roms.
As far as performance and battery life, Nameless has been the best. Far better than OOS 12 or 13. Customization varies between roms with CRDroid seeming to have the most customizations. I just prefer Nameless because it seems the most close to stock it terms of interface, without all the bloat. It's all preference though. If you want stability, A12 roms are probably your answer for now until the 13 roms catch up. But if you want the latest and greatest, you could try a 13 custom rom.
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Could you list the important OOS 13 features missing on CrDroid? I'm trying to decide whether to switch.
tathagatab said:
Could you list the important OOS 13 features missing on CrDroid? I'm trying to decide whether to switch.
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As it's been a while since I had flashed that rom, so I'm not quite sure what they have in there now. I know they do have the OOS Cam, though. Some features are in there that I remember, but sort of just rebranded. Here are the list of CRDroid features from their GitHub:
crdroid_features/README.mkdn at 13.0 · crdroidandroid/crdroid_features
our main features (why you love us). Contribute to crdroidandroid/crdroid_features development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
LuckyTheCoder said:
Been trying to figure this out for a while now. I want a ROM with comparable performance, features, and battery life to that of OOS.
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I'm currently on latest Nameless 12, & sticking on it for a while.
it got the best of pixel features, while retaining oneplus specific features that we love.
Tried Nameless 13 when it was released, but downgrade cuz A13 still a bit buggy.

Question why do custom roms improve more performance? why are some original roms so bad?

I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
If we talk about MIUI here it's full of bloat and far from AOSP (stock Android) and I think the focus is features, over performance.
theoneofgod said:
If we talk about MIUI here it's full of bloat and far from AOSP (stock Android) and I think the focus is features, over performance.
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They also clearly copy some UI Design from iOS
which is not bad... It looks good.
But my biggest problem with MIUI is that, it breaks standard Android features.
Like broken Gestures on 3rd-Party Launchers.
Or the MIUI Permission-system breaking apps like Instagram.
or MIUI's battery optimisation being too extreme...
I don't hate MIUI, but it's 很胖 (very fat)
Custom ROMs are not bad per se, but they are made for ppl who want their phone to run without gving it too much thought. MIUI is not the worst Stock ROM imho, but clearly made for John D. Noob.
If you debloat MIUI, you can get along with it if you don't need to much customization.
Btw, battery is usually best on stock ROMS in my experience.
But if you want real control over your phone, or need features that the manufacturer doesn't want you to have, you deffo need a custom ROM.
Also, you need to take into account that a manufacturer doesn't earn a penny for giving out updates and patches, so they tend to keep their fuzz to a minimum.
I usually move away from a stock rom as updates are slow to arrive.
When i was looking for a upgrade for my LG G7, i settled for the F3 because it was Very good value for money, was easy to unlock and had great Dev support on XDA.
For me the other downside of a MIUI stock rom apart from the bloat ware and slow updates, was not being able to use my Samsung Smartwatch as a trusted device, as Miui Stock would only permit Xiaomi devices.
Switching to the Evo-X rom, gave me back all the functionality I needed and is fast enough for me.
tanukitanuki said:
I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
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custom roms, nah
custom modifications, yes
you can reach same or more performance on stock, if you just modify it
most or all custom roms are modified by the rom dev ofcourse, that is why its got better performance than stock
tanukitanuki said:
I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
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Stock roms add much more functionality, then become bigger and slower
Customs roms are mostly based on AOSP, which is pure android. Less functionality = Lighter and faster rom
And for customs roms like Xiaomi.EU, well they simply edit some parts of the rom, adds fixes and remove some useless stuff, which again make the OS lightweight and faster
of course, that's more complicated in fact, and lighter rom doesnt mean faster, you can make a very heavy system work very fast with optimization. 'Optimization', you see, a word that most of roms dev like Xiaomi doesnt know about
MacTavishFR said:
Stock roms add much more functionality, then become bigger and slower
Customs roms are mostly based on AOSP, which is pure android. Less functionality = Lighter and faster rom
And for customs roms like Xiaomi.EU, well they simply edit some parts of the rom, adds fixes and remove some useless stuff, which again make the OS lightweight and faster
of course, that's more complicated in fact, and lighter rom doesnt mean faster, you can make a very heavy system work very fast with optimization. 'Optimization', you see, a word that most of roms dev like Xiaomi doesnt know about
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dont go around dissing devs without knowing anything about them
pretty sure devs hired by big companies like xiaomi would know about optimizations better than any custom rom dev
when custom rom devs start making bug free roms, go around dissing stock devs as you like
If you have a sub-flagship or flagship device it doesn't matter if that's a Xiaomi or not changing your rom into custom rom is kinda useless, because the stock rom is good enough and more stable(not 100% stable) and if you longing for more performance for flashing an AOSP base rom it's kinda useless base on my experience because it only increases like 1-2% in pure stock no modifications especially in Poco F3.
For me AOSP roms are only good for midrange and lowend devices, i have spare phone here it's RN8 and i changed my rom from MIUI to AOSP and the difference is night and day my mind is blown to the ram management.
From the first day i was in ArrowOS because Miui roms was a little poor in performance, not so much fast like AOSP roms, but one day i tried one of the last stable Miui EU roms and i was impressed how good became, sound and haptics it's just much better than AOSP, autobrightness works as intended, camera it's better that Gcam and SOT it's (in my use, the same).
So i'm with the last comment, in Poco F3 i think the last MIUI EU for example isn't bad, phone runs well and all works. Just tried the last Stable MIUI 13 and now the MIUI 14 EU beta build and i think it's a little more smooth than previous build.
I think any phone with A13 will run smoother than A12.1 builds, in my old Mi A1 just noticed that (and it's too old).
Wmbruckner said:
Also, you need to take into account that a manufacturer doesn't earn a penny for giving out updates and patches, so they tend to keep their fuzz to a minimum.
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Nah, dude.
They took money in advance for that. On the other hand, people buy pixel devices because they have updates guaranteed.
They do earn money from it indirectly. A lot. Otherwise it wouldn't have been a thing.

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