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Hi everyone,
My phone (almost 2 years old, changed LCD for three times) started to lose a lot of its battery capacity from a month ago, and since yesterday I realized something's wrong with it, as it had some trouble charging the battery. At first, I was using my phone and its battery was around 20%, and then as soon as I connected the charger (genuine fast charge) it turned off and the red LED indicator kept turning on and off and refused to charge. then after a reboot, it started charging again, and then I left it charging at the night and at the morning I realized it only charged to 60% and the red LED didn't turn on at all. And now that all the battery is drowned out it's not charging at all and drawing no current from the charger ([email protected]).
Has anyone had any experience with it before? Is this a battery problem or the USB charging port flex cable which has some ICs on it (example)?
I'd appreciate your answers.
I can't tell from your story that you tried another charger ? I recall a similar charging issue from my HTC One X a few years back.
Replaced the charger and all issues disappeared.
Mr Hofs said:
I can't tell from your story that you tried another charger ? I recall a similar charging issue from my HTC One X a few years back.
Replaced the charger and all issues disappeared.
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Yes I have, Also seconds before it ran out completely I tried to check if adb works. connected it to my laptop and on the bootloader mode the adb recognized the device but the red LED didn't light up.
m.m.m said:
Yes I have, Also seconds before it ran out completely I tried to check if adb works. connected it to my laptop and on the bootloader mode the adb recognized the device but the red LED didn't light up.
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That's correct because a device doesn't charge in bootloader mode. Only off state, running OS or Dr TWRP recovery.
If you tried a different charger it can be pretty much only down to hardware, can't give any advice at that level.
Mr Hofs said:
That's correct because a device doesn't charge in bootloader mode. Only off state, running OS or Dr TWRP recovery.
If you tried a different charger it can be pretty much only down to hardware, can't give any advice at that level.
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Oops, I meant recovery mode.
does the device charge in the stock recovery?
m.m.m said:
Oops, I meant recovery mode.
does the device charge in the stock recovery?
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I'm afraid not, only the custom one.
I had almost the same problem with my phone. I sent it to a repair center and acording to their report, the circuit which is responsible for the monitoring of the charging process had a loose connection. Maybe because I dropped the phone a few times. Unfortunatly the circuits of modern phones are all on the same circuit board, so they had to change the whole motherboard of the phone. But now everything works fine.
So I just opened the phone and disconnect/reconnected the battery connector and it eventually started charging with the stock charger, but it charged up to 60% and then stopped. retried the same steps and no luck this time. then I tried charging the battery with an external li-ion charger (I know it's a dangerous task )
this time it charged up to 4.11 volts and then I turned on the phone and again the battery dropped to 60%. so I believe the battery is really dead and needs replacement. I'll update you when I replace it.
KingGong said:
I had almost the same problem with my phone. I sent it to a repair center and acording to their report, the circuit which is responsible for the monitoring of the charging process had a loose connection. Maybe because I dropped the phone a few times. Unfortunatly the circuits of modern phones are all on the same circuit board, so they had to change the whole motherboard of the phone. But now everything works fine.
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Turns out I was wrong, my case was similar to yours. had to waste $9 on a battery to find out
it just fixed by disconnecting/reconnecting the USB connector bottom of the board, but I don't know how the flex cable for the back button got cut so now I have to replace the whole bottom circuit ($17 approx.) :crying:
m.m.m said:
Turns out I was wrong, my case was similar to yours. had to waste $9 on a battery to find out
it just fixed by disconnecting/reconnecting the USB connector bottom of the board, but I don't know how the flex cable for the back button got cut so now I have to replace the whole bottom circuit ($17 approx.) :crying:
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So I went through the hurdle of replacing my battery and charge port, and the battery transplant went well, went from 70% to 100% battery health (yay!).
The first charge port I purchased (this is all eBay stuff) had a busted Recents button (copper trace in ribbon cable was nicked - when the part was removed from original phone for sure), so I complained and got a replacement; second one works well.
And because all bad things come in threes, the phone developed an echo (on the opposite side of the conversation) which I think I caused by ripping a bit of the mic rubber isolator which points towards the mic hole in the battery cover.
I believe I fixed it (still testing) by glueing some foam padding on the backside of the mic (on the charge port PCB, facing the battery cover).
Long story short, opening up the phone is a b###h, so do multiple repairs together, be careful not to break anything else (easier said....).
Good luck, let us know how it went.
So here's an update, First of all, I'm pretty happy with the battery replacement, It can hold like 10 hours of my usage while the old one could handle up to 6-8 lately, it's unbranded, and I got it from a local phone part store.
Second, the replacement for the charger flex turned out to be pretty good quality, and I've had no problems with it so far. I got it for $11 from AliExpress, but now it's about $10.5. But when I replaced everything and tried to reassemble the phone and tighten the screws it showed up with charging problems again, and I tried disassemble/reassembling the phone and reconnecting the charger flex, and the next time it charged but with no fast charge, so in the next try I also tried cleaning the flex connector with cleaning alcohol, and for the third try it finally started charging with no problems.
So now after like 2 weeks, it's had no problems so far.
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Hey Guys,
Over the last year or so I've had intermittent charging issues with my Galaxy Nexus. About 4 months ago is when it first started happening, the phone would either not charge or only charge when it is turned off. Somehow the issue was resolved through tons of troubleshooting, I'm not even sure what fixed it or why it started working again.
Same thing happened about 2 weeks ago, except this time it won't charge at all. Then 2 days later all of a sudden started charging again. Now it's happening again today, I have no idea what is going on or why this handset won't charge properly. The phone won't turn on with just the charger in and the battery out either.
I've tried various chargers including the OEM charger, I've tried up to 6 different chargers and 7 seperate micro-USB B cords. Nothing. I've tried a brand new battery that a friend bought for his phone before he threw it in and no results.
At this point I think it's the USB charger board, however I'm not sure why it would not work and then work again. Does anyone have any ideas or any solutions? I've read thousands of threads on this, from this forum and many others and have gone through some ridiculous troubleshooting methods.
SCH-I515 Korean Version.
Seriously, anyhelp is appreciated.
As of now, all of a sudden it will charge while it's off. But only to about 4% then it just stops charging. It will not charge while it is on at all.
Because it's getting worse and worse?
Relock bootloader, and return it in for warranty, if you can. I'm afraid there's not much help if you already checked for damage to the USB port.
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hi
had the same problem until a few minutes ago.
received my usb/charging flex part today and changed it just before to post here.
took me like 20 min, really easy to do, everything works perfectly and i also took time to clean up a bit the phone inside of some dirts and change the housing i bought with the flex part.
As my screen is under protection since the beginning (4 months old), and that i recently bought a 2000mah battery, well i have to say that i have a new phone ready to handle the new year easily!
operation is easy and you will find plenty of videos on youtube showing how to change the usb flex (7€/$ , +/-) so pretty cheap.
Good luck
Why not buy an external battery charger and a spare battery?
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I'd get a replacement daughterboard and switch it out yourself. It's easy dude, just like a previous poster already said. I just did it myself, took me all of 20 minutes and cost me $10. ifixit.com has a step by step direction sheet, if you have any questions feel free to contact me about it.
Try the following:
1.) Turn off your phone.
2.) Get a flat head screwdriver (small one)
3.) Push the flat connector inside the microusb port up. (It often gets bent downwards because it's so thin compared to other phones...)
4.) Boot into the bootloader
5.) Hit volume down until restart bootloader appears. Press power button.
6.) Start phone manually.
farshad525hou said:
Try the following:
1.) Turn off your phone.
2.) Get a flat head screwdriver (small one)
3.) Push the flat connector inside the microusb port up. (It often gets bent downwards because it's so thin compared to other phones...)
4.) Boot into the bootloader
5.) Hit volume down until restart bootloader appears. Press power button.
6.) Start phone manually.
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i dont know why, but this fixed it for me, for a short while. now the charging is intermittent and seems to come and go as it pleases.
Hi,
I had the same problem of ghost charging, it started with phone not charging when connected to charger and then randomly showing charging...
Now discovered it causes vbus_tuna_otg wake lock, resulting in high system usage in settings> battery and not letting phone go to deep sleep, causing battery drain.
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I've come into the same problem with my Galaxy Nexus as well. If my phone is turned on, my phone will recognize that a charger is plugged in but the battery will not charge at all. If the phone is off and plugged in, the charging screen won't appear. I've tried multiple chargers and cords, 2 different batteries, and even replaced the micro usb and board, but the problem hasn't changed at all. I've managed to charge my batteries with an external charger but would like to get my phone back to normal working condition. Does anyone think that changing the actual motherboard itself might solve the problem?
Sayword said:
I've come into the same problem with my Galaxy Nexus as well. If my phone is turned on, my phone will recognize that a charger is plugged in but the battery will not charge at all. If the phone is off and plugged in, the charging screen won't appear. I've tried multiple chargers and cords, 2 different batteries, and even replaced the micro usb and board, but the problem hasn't changed at all. I've managed to charge my batteries with an external charger but would like to get my phone back to normal working condition. Does anyone think that changing the actual motherboard itself might solve the problem?
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I had this problem before, using something small and flat to push the charging connector off the housing will work for awhile. The pin in the charging port is bent down and is very thin it's easy to lift up just use a tiny bit of force to lift it up. The pin touching the housing is causing a short and that is causing your no charge while it's on and mine even went as far as draining my battery very quickly. I did research and found alot of people having this issue on the gnex. I eventually had to turn mine in for replacement, no problems since. Hopefully yours is still under warranty or you can buy the peice that is broken and replace yourself, there is a post above saying what to do for that.
Looks like my phone developed this problem. It sometimes won't charge be it via my pogo dock or USB cord. It seems to start taking a charge after I pop out the battery and then put it back in. I'm going to order another battery and see if that is the problem.
Thank yoiu!!
solved my problem!! I am in your debt
popping the battery out just worked for me too
hlaalu said:
Looks like my phone developed this problem. It sometimes won't charge be it via my pogo dock or USB cord. It seems to start taking a charge after I pop out the battery and then put it back in. I'm going to order another battery and see if that is the problem.
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I just did the remove battery trick as well and it worked. I just noticed my battery not charging yesterday but figured it was because I was trying to use a different charging in my dad's car. got to work where i left my normal charger and no luck.
thefayeride said:
I just did the remove battery trick as well and it worked. I just noticed my battery not charging yesterday but figured it was because I was trying to use a different charging in my dad's car. got to work where i left my normal charger and no luck.
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That's good, I tried it a few times but the issue still pops up. To be fair though, I've had this phone and battery since launch day... Almost three years old. I ordered a new battery so hopefully I won't have the issue anymore... And I won't be surprised if my battery life is a little better too.
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hlaalu said:
That's good, I tried it a few times but the issue still pops up. To be fair though, I've had this phone and battery since launch day... Almost three years old. I ordered a new battery so hopefully I won't have the issue anymore... And I won't be surprised if my battery life is a little better too.
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The Galaxy Nexus is nowhere near three years old. Your phone would be 18 months old if you had it since launch.
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Excuse me, two years. According to Samsung their lithium batteries have a life of about 500 cycles. So my point is still valid, my battery is probably just on it's way out. I'll find out for sure when my new one comes tomorrow.
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Yeah, since battery life hasn't exactly been the strong point of the GN and some of us had to go though a complete cycle daily, I suspect a lot of folks are going to be seeing more and more issues. Not too long ago, I had a battery that failed in such a way that it would randomly crash the phone and had to be pulled in order to allow a reboot. I would've suspected anything but the battery in that case.
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farshad525hou said:
Try the following:
1.) Turn off your phone.
2.) Get a flat head screwdriver (small one)
3.) Push the flat connector inside the microusb port up. (It often gets bent downwards because it's so thin compared to other phones...)
4.) Boot into the bootloader
5.) Hit volume down until restart bootloader appears. Press power button.
6.) Start phone manually.
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This kind of worked for me, but the "boot into bootloader and restart it" killed my phone, don't know why. After a lot of a hassle i got it on, with 2% left, again not charging...tried to repush the connector towards the center and now i cant get my charger into the phone, maybe overbend it...what to do?...
I have a strange problem, my Gnex does not charge the battery, first i thought that it was the battery so, I tested the battery on other phone and it charged just fine, and then i ordered the usb/charging assemble from ebay and replaced on my gnex, and still not charging the battery, but when i connect the phone to the pc it recognize it immediately, but still won't charge the battery, anybody has an idea of what my problem is?? and how can i solve it?
Please help!!!
hi, i hav been facing charging prob, my does not charge whn its remain on rather drains batt more quick but it was charging whn i turn it off but slow. i thought its the issue of sense 5 so i degrade to sense 4+ viper 3.8 but it got worse. idrained my batt and than put to wall charge for whole night but the charging led kept blinking and than it disappeared than again i unpluged and plug the cable to phn than it starts blinking and than again blinking of led disappeared. i thought it will take time to become stable so i left it charge for whole night. in the morning led was disappeared and i tried to turning phn on but it did not respond. than i plug it to pc and it started blinking without disappearing of led. i left it for the whole day to charge but the led didnt turned to green due curiosity i turned phn on and batt lvl showed 20% ......so plzz any 1 tell me wht can be the solution of the problem plzzzzzzzz:crying::crying::crying:
You probably have a dead battery...Someone who has seen this problem before could confirm.
The way you write is pretty hard to read, so you might wait a while until someone does confirm this .
1. Never charge the phone for the whole night.
2. I had the same problem. I changed my charger and now, it is perfectly charging. Try it.
Anish Shah said:
1. Never charge the phone for the whole night.
2. I had the same problem. I changed my charger and now, it is perfectly charging. Try it.
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thanx for suggestion, how much do i hav to pay for a new charger??
But you said you left it to charge via USB cable on your PC and it didn't charge properly. If you used the same USB cable with the charger, then the cable might be to blame. You should try a friends cable before buying a new charger.
If the charger does not work with the same USB cable you used to connect to the PC, your battery is most probably dead.
Anish Shah said:
1. Never charge the phone for the whole night.
2. I had the same problem. I changed my charger and now, it is perfectly charging. Try it.
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Charging all night isn't an issue.
The battery will charge to 100% then drop to 95% and back up, will cause no damage.
Also smaller and often charges are better for the battery as it slows the formation of crystals so the battery holds its capacity longer.
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unikulkiss said:
But you said you left it to charge via USB cable on your PC and it didn't charge properly. If you used the same USB cable with the charger, then the cable might be to blame. You should try a friends cable before buying a new charger.
If the charger does not work with the same USB cable you used to connect to the PC, your battery is most probably dead.
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using different cable phn is getting charge but the charging speed is very slow, in 6 hrs it has charged only 64% and dont know wht to blame batt or charger???
solidsnakecod4 said:
using different cable phn is getting charge but the charging speed is very slow, in 6 hrs it has charged only 64% and dont know wht to blame batt or charger???
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If you have used 2 different cables to charge and none worked properly, that is probably too big of a coincidence. Your phone has something broken; it's either the battery or the charging circuit in the phone. You should take it to a specialized phone service to see what's wrong. They will also try charging it before disassembling, and if there's nothing wrong with the phone, they probably won't even charge you anything.
If indeed they have to disassemble it, you should ask them if there will be any visible differences once they assemble is back. I had a cracked digitizer on my old One X and took it to service and replaced the display+digitizer(they come together) and, although the screen was new, it did not fit as snugly as before, so you could see light leaking out the side margins of the display.
They probably had many of these phones under repair and should know if this will be the case with your phone.
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If you have used 2 different cables to charge and none worked properly, that is probably too big of a coincidence. Your phone has something broken; it's either the battery or the charging circuit in the phone. You should take it to a specialized phone service to see what's wrong. They will also try charging it before disassembling, and if there's nothing wrong with the phone, they probably won't even charge you anything.
If indeed they have to disassemble it, you should ask them if there will be any visible differences once they assemble is back. I had a cracked digitizer on my old One X and took it to service and replaced the display+digitizer(they come together) and, although the screen was new, it did not fit as snugly as before, so you could see light leaking out the side margins of the display.
They probably had many of these phones under repair and should know if this will be the case with your phone.
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thnx bro, my phn is fully charged now but ill be visiting service center..
You can use/try every USB charger and cable you have in your house, I also charge my HOX with my iPad charger (only different cable ) no porblem at all. And it's no problem to charge your phone the whole night.
is there anyone with problems charging the t320?
it goes fine until 40%, above that or stops charging or is really slow, like 1% in one hour.
i thought it was a rom issue, so i flashed the original rom from sammobile
the charging at this moment is 56%, 150mA average, when isn't negative - 200
this is stock usb and charger, and also with other charger/cable is the same
Me too
monteiro-ribas said:
is there anyone with problems charging the t320?
it goes fine until 40%, above that or stops charging or is really slow, like 1% in one hour.
i thought it was a rom issue, so i flashed the original rom from sammobile
the charging at this moment is 56%, 150mA average, when isn't negative - 200
this is stock usb and charger, and also with other charger/cable is the same
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I was just searching the forums as bought mine yesterday and have a similar problem, mine got to 56% then stopped charging. If i turn off the tablet it does start to charge again so will fully charge with it powered down and see what happens.
soon i'll be testing another charger
you can see the charging voltage on the galaxy charging current available on playstore
most likely i will use warranty
monteiro-ribas said:
soon i'll be testing another charger
you can see the charging voltage on the galaxy charging current available on playstore
most likely i will use warranty
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@tidy01
Pop the back off gently and disconnect the battery from the main board. When you reconnect it, let it charge up fully before turning it back on. After this, it will behave normally for the rest of time.
Thanks
dottat said:
@tidy01
Pop the back off gently and disconnect the battery from the main board. When you reconnect it, let it charge up fully before turning it back on. After this, it will behave normally for the rest of time.
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Thanks for the reply but it seems my issue was caused by a faulty outlet socket. The socket works fine for everything else but would only charge the tablet when it was powered down. Tried charging off my laptop and desktop usb and it was the same, but tried some other outlet sockets and they charge fine. I understand the usb outlets might not provide enough to charge the tablet but hadn't considered the socket as I know it works, must be just enough high resistance to prevent it charging a working tablet but provides enough current to charge it when it's powered down. The fact it was showing a 56% charge was just co-incidence.
Thought it might be worth posting this as it's not something I've come across before.
tidy01 said:
Thanks for the reply but it seems my issue was caused by a faulty outlet socket. The socket works fine for everything else but would only charge the tablet when it was powered down. Tried charging off my laptop and desktop usb and it was the same, but tried some other outlet sockets and they charge fine. I understand the usb outlets might not provide enough to charge the tablet but hadn't considered the socket as I know it works, must be just enough high resistance to prevent it charging a working tablet but provides enough current to charge it when it's powered down. The fact it was showing a 56% charge was just co-incidence.
Thought it might be worth posting this as it's not something I've come across before.
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Here's the thing. When mine was misbehaving I could get it to start charging again by switching outlets or even reversing polarity on the wall plug. It was a temporary fix as within days the problem would be back. I thought I had it fixed so many times. It always came back. If it happens to you again just remember the above post. It's been four months since I did it and never once has it been quirky. Something in the hardware needed reset that only disconnecting the battery could do.
dottat said:
Here's the thing. When mine was misbehaving I could get it to start charging again by switching outlets or even reversing polarity on the wall plug. It was a temporary fix as within days the problem would be back. I thought I had it fixed so many times. It always came back. If it happens to you again just remember the above post. It's been four months since I did it and never once has it been quirky. Something in the hardware needed reset that only disconnecting the battery could do.
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Thanks once again, I will keep this in mind if does happen again.
dottat said:
@tidy01
Pop the back off gently and disconnect the battery from the main board. When you reconnect it, let it charge up fully before turning it back on. After this, it will behave normally for the rest of time.
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Hi, I have this problem also, as well as random reboots. I just want to ask you on how to take the back off of the Tab Pro 8.4?
Cheers
Zakanam said:
Hi, I have this problem also, as well as random reboots. I just want to ask you on how to take the back off of the Tab Pro 8.4?
Cheers
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Very gently use something like a guitar pick or a credit card to pry it up around the edges
dottat said:
Very gently use something like a guitar pick or a credit card to pry it up around the edges
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Thanks for your reply. Would you pry the back faux leather cover from the back, or from the front via the glass screen (like in note 10.1 2014)?
I wouldn't want to break my tab he he thanks
Zakanam said:
Thanks for your reply. Would you pry the back faux leather cover from the back, or from the front via the glass screen (like in note 10.1 2014)?
I wouldn't want to break my tab he he thanks
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It's the faux leather thing you pry off. Keep the angle that you pull on the cover shallow and work it slowly.
dottat said:
It's the faux leather thing you pry off. Keep the angle that you pull on the cover shallow and work it slowly.
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with no other solution i did too pop the back off gently and disconnect the battery from the main board, now it's working OK, let's see how long
cabel pull
hoping this works. I just filled out a warranty email today for same issue on 12.2 Tab Pro. It pried the case open with a credit card. Very slow, took about 7 minutes. Pulling the power cable in the middle, probably behind green tape. Use needle nose pliers or something small behind the wires and pull up. The pins are tiny and will f*ck the whole thing up if bent.
I get the feeling that the screen turns itself on even when eye tracking settings are off or closed in case. I hear the annoying sound at night when charging. Why Sammy does not have a smart current sensor built in is insane. Asking you to unplug when most people will leave on and charge overnight. Just dumb.
I can't get past 57% charging for last 2 weeks. Stock, unrooted for first time in a long time, so I am pissed to hear ROM had not effect. This is likely undocumented hardware issue Sammy doesn't want to admit to.
even on my T325 I had the same problem but I solved it this way ...
I have worn the battery completely until turn off my device, I loaded the battery overnight to device OFF.
wipe and install rom custom samsung
I launched and used app "battery calibraton" (root)
I have now done 4 cycles of charging to 1600/1750 mA
house66 said:
even on my T325 I had the same problem but I solved it this way ...
I have worn the battery completely until turn off my device, I loaded the battery overnight to device OFF.
wipe and install rom custom samsung
I launched and used app "battery calibraton" (root)
I have now done 4 cycles of charging to 1600/1750 mA
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The battery "unplug" works....
monteiro-ribas said:
with no other solution i did too pop the back off gently and disconnect the battery from the main board, now it's working OK, let's see how long
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Still good?
mgp53 said:
The battery "unplug" works....
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There is no need for physical interventions on the hardware, maybe someone does not know in depth the behavior of lithium ions
house66 said:
There is no need for physical interventions on the hardware, maybe someone does not know in depth the behavior of lithium ions
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Perhaps not, but I and MANY others have encountered the same problem. Across multiple Roms, fully discharging and recharging, running the so called calibration apps. Rebooting, unpluggin, replugging. The problem NEVER fully went away. It would work for a charge cycle or two or three, then would reappear.
I finally took the back off, unplugged and replugged the connector., closed up the case, charged it for several hours before turning it back on.
Not ONCE has the problem occurred since that intervention. That was over a month ago.
Maybe it's not lithium ion behavior, it might be in the charging circuit and hardware.
If you have a suggestion, then by all means share it so others can solve their problem.
mgp53 said:
Perhaps not, but I and MANY others have encountered the same problem. Across multiple Roms, fully discharging and recharging, running the so called calibration apps. Rebooting, unpluggin, replugging. The problem NEVER fully went away. It would work for a charge cycle or two or three, then would reappear.
I finally took the back off, unplugged and replugged the connector., closed up the case, charged it for several hours before turning it back on.
Not ONCE has the problem occurred since that intervention. That was over a month ago.
Maybe it's not lithium ion behavior, it might be in the charging circuit and hardware.
If you have a suggestion, then by all means share it so others can solve their problem.
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I've already written how I solved the problem, but in 5 years and dozens of Android rom installed on various devices, this problem for me was very frequent.
Always the same. On my ST325 I solved like other times in the past.
No news I found on this battery, battery charger of the same problems since I know Android
*mgp53
sorry for my bad English ...
for this device I've tried all the roms available (CM11 or not)
the problem is very acute especially after CM11> Pro Plus V2, but the problems had already occurred some time with the various installations buil CM11
about a week I did the operation described above (already done in the past even on my previous samsung device, Note 1, Galaxy s4, Galaxy Mega, Galaxy tab 3 g3 ) with the same result ...
The battery charges very quickly with the device ON to 1700 mA (monitored with "Monitor battery widgwt pro")
again sorry for my english
Hi,
yesterday I bought a used R800i, the seller said I just need to charge the Battery. So back at home i plugged it to a charger an the LED near the power button startet blinking. First I thought it´s not a big deal but after a couple of hours it was clear that this is not alrigt. Even if i remove the battery the red light keeps blinking continuous (not 3 times or something similar, just every second once). I don´t know if it´s a software or hardware bug but could you help me to get it fixed?
best Regards
Lukas
It could be empty battery (but voltage level is not high enough to start charging).
Check with flashtool can you enter flash mode or fastboot mode (if you can, then it's probably empty battery)
If you can, check voltage level of battery with voltmeter.
It can be that motherboard is dead, but to be sure, you must know what is voltage level of battery.
For now, try leaving it charging, it might take some time (few hours or more) to actually start charging...
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Over USB i only get unkown device, but USB with the Test Point works, measuring the Batter was 0 Volts but charging over hours didn´t help
Lukas94 said:
Over USB i only get unkown device, but USB with the Test Point works, measuring the Batter was 0 Volts but charging over hours didn´t help
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If battery have 0 volts then it's dead and (most likely) can't be charged anymore. You need new battery, so you can know is motherboard is working or not.
But that is just my opinion, and i could be wrong...
Maybe to try and charge battery from external source of 5V power , easiest way is cut some usb cable or take two wires from PC's molex connector (red is +5V, black is GND) and charge it for shortly (about 30sec-1min) and measure does it have at least 3.2V. Repeat short charging untill it does. If it stay on 0V then is dead for sure.
I was really able to charge the battery over a cut USB cable. I got it to boot until lookscreen (digitizer does not response) but then the battery turned hot and the Xperia shut down. I ordered now a new battery then it should work again
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I was really able to charge the battery over a cut USB cable. I got it to boot until lookscreen (digitizer does not response) but then the battery turned hot and the Xperia shut down. I ordered now a new battery then it should work again
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Digitizer not working could be faulty slider-flex cable or simply software error due overheating. You'll know with new battery...
Flex Cable looks like this, should I get a new one?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mixy0lczvb3hb3c/IMG_20140912_201712.jpg?dl=0
Lukas94 said:
Flex Cable looks like this, should I get a new one?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mixy0lczvb3hb3c/IMG_20140912_201712.jpg?dl=0
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Yes, that's slider flex cable.
But wait untill you get new battery. Then you'll know does it have more problems or it is working normally
Sad News, today I got the new battery and i was even able to boot up the phone, but like the last time i was able to boot it up the battery and the mainboard got hot. I think the loading circuit is broken. So there are two options 1. buy a external charger for the batterie or 2. sell the phone as rarely used on ebay
No really I´m selling it, even if i get a charger theres also the problem with the not working digitzer. Thanks for your Help but this is ways to big for me.
Regards Lukas
Lukas94 said:
Sad News, today I got the new battery and i was even able to boot up the phone, but like the last time i was able to boot it up the battery and the mainboard got hot. I think the loading circuit is broken. So there are two options 1. buy a external charger for the batterie or 2. sell the phone as rarely used on ebay
No really I´m selling it, even if i get a charger theres also the problem with the not working digitzer. Thanks for your Help but this is ways to big for me.
Regards Lukas
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Sorry to hear that. Obviously problem is much bigger and hard to tell what is wrong without some proffesional look into it (lot of reasons for phone to get hot by itself - there is short circuit somewhere and that's why it's draing battery fast and causing overheating). I don't think external charger will solve problems.
Anyway, good luck :good:
So I woke up this morning to find my Tab drained. I plugged it in for half an hour, then when I picked it up I noticed there was no charging indicator (the green liquid battery thing). So I thought maybe I didn't plug it in right. I reattached everything, tested the charger on another device, then plugged it back into the tab for about 2 hours...still no juice. I tried powering on and doing the reset thing. still nothing. I brought it to a Samsung service center and they said I have a faulty motherboard. Now I'm wondering how the hell that happened when I've been using this device for about 6 months (only 6 months) without any issues, no overheating or strange reboots or anything, and now just like that I have a motherboard issue? The kicker here is that they're charging 75% of the tablet price to fix it! What gives?! I purchased it from a non-samsung mall store so they said I can't claim warranty. I popped the back off and did the battery pull thing and tried to charge - still nothing. Did I buy a device that decided it was a lemon after 6 months light-moderate use?
Anyone else have this happen? It's never been dropped or anything and I was on stock firmware with nothing but root.
In the UK, If your tablet goes faulty in 12months your guarantee is with the place you bought it from, not Samsung.
John.
It's ALIVE! I thought I'd get a 2nd opinion on my Tab since the guys at the Samsung service center popped it open anyway. Went to a generic phone repair store, all they did was hook it up to this box thing, and it came back to life! The guy said something got corrupted and just re flashed everything to stock rooted. He charged me less than $20 and I have a working Tab again. Obviously the very first thing I did with my resurrected device was to call Samsung's hotline and report how this one service center was trying to scam me into buying a motherboard that cost nearly as much as what I paid for the thing brand new.
Some li-poly battery have an protection circuit built in, if the voltage falls below a certain level say 2.5volts per cell, it disables the battery, if you connect an meter to the battery you will get 0volts , you need an li-ion charger that passes an higher voltage that resets the battery and allows it to work again, I wonder if this is what happened.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/low_voltage_cut_off
John.
Did they connect via USB or to the motherboard?
@tinderbox could be...must have over-drained itself for some reason.
@ashyx I couldn't really see what he was doing since his work table was obstructed by a bunch of stuff and he had his back towards me, I just saw him grab this small black box, then minutes later he showed me that the tab was already powering on though couldn't get past samsung logo, then he went ahead and flashed to stock.
Reason I ask is I wonder if he used a jtag box to ressurect it by reflashing the bootloader.
If he did there must be jtag points on the board as it can't usually be done via USB.
Pity you didn't ask what he actually did as I'm intrigued now.
Did the box look like this: riff box
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Reason I ask is I wonder if he used a jtag box to ressurect it by reflashing the bootloader.
If he did there must be jtag points on the board as it can't usually be done via USB.
Pity you didn't ask what he actually did as I'm intrigued now.
Did the box look like this: riff box
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Yes! but without the markings.:good:
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Yes! but without the markings.:good:
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Exactly the same or just similar?
yeah i think so... it had similar ports, though not sure about the outer shell of it... i think it was smooth all around with no ridges or anything, just a little black rectangular box.
Sorry to revive an old topic, but i thought i'd do an update instead of start a new one. Tab S died again and I'm now convinced it's over-discharge, as I left it at about 20% and forgot to plug it in before going to bed. Woke up with the tab drained, not responding to any button combinations, not charging with any of my chargers that tested ok with other devices.
Instead of bringing it back to the technician, I thought I'd try mcguyvering the damn thing. I opened up the back, pried the battery terminals up off the board, lifted the battery out, and with a spliced USB cord hooked up to a powerbank, I gave the battery terminals a direct zap, inserting the exposed USB wires into the battery terminals. This took some trial and error as, I didn't know which wire was supposed to go where, but finally I saw the powerbank leds blink, indicating it was discharging into something. I held the wires in place for about 5-10 minutes, noticing some heat on the battery by then. I reinstalled the battery back into the tablet, closed everything up and tried charging again and...hey presto! the tab started charging. :victory: Let it charge for 2 hours and powered on like nothing happened.
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I don't recommend you defibrillate your device's battery unless you know exactly what you're doing and are fully aware of the risks. (I didn't know what I was doing at the time but I was so frustrated at that point I didn't mind if the battery blew up in my face.)
Mine just dead last night while CHARGING (turned off at 13%).....
And refused to turn on till now (still charging and both warm (charger + tab)...
I even plugged an ampere meter to really know if its drawing any or not (it is, at 5.2V 1.7A for 15mins)...
And still no luck
Samsung's device become more ****ty each generations..... Esp the battery...
This one is the replacement batt they gave me after 2mos of usage for infamous Tab S battery issue...
I saw a video on youtube, a guy had a dead 10.5" T1 he took the back off and connected an 1amp microusb charger pcb to connections directly to the battery under a piece a tape, I bought a couple of the microusb charger pcb`s from ebay for 0.42p each in case mine goes dead.
EDIT: I found the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRTgLGrzNz0
John.
pawces said:
Sorry to revive an old topic, but i thought i'd do an update instead of start a new one. Tab S died again and I'm now convinced it's over-discharge, as I left it at about 20% and forgot to plug it in before going to bed. Woke up with the tab drained, not responding to any button combinations, not charging with any of my chargers that tested ok with other devices.
Instead of bringing it back to the technician, I thought I'd try mcguyvering the damn thing. I opened up the back, pried the battery terminals up off the board, lifted the battery out, and with a spliced USB cord hooked up to a powerbank, I gave the battery terminals a direct zap, inserting the exposed USB wires into the battery terminals. This took some trial and error as, I didn't know which wire was supposed to go where, but finally I saw the powerbank leds blink, indicating it was discharging into something. I held the wires in place for about 5-10 minutes, noticing some heat on the battery by then. I reinstalled the battery back into the tablet, closed everything up and tried charging again and...hey presto! the tab started charging. :victory: Let it charge for 2 hours and powered on like nothing happened.
disclaimer:
I don't recommend you defibrillate your device's battery unless you know exactly what you're doing and are fully aware of the risks. (I didn't know what I was doing at the time but I was so frustrated at that point I didn't mind if the battery blew up in my face.)
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And still no luck
Samsung's device become more ****ty each generations..... Esp the battery...
This one is the replacement batt they gave me after 2mos of usage for infamous Tab S battery issue...
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Samsung tablets only have issue with battery connectors. The white connector with 6 wires has loose connection, the black connector soldered to mainboard has cracked solder joints. New battery won't solve problem if you don't fix these two flaws. Resolder the battery connector will fix most of problems: not charging, reboot, flickering, auto shutdown.
I posted more details in the threat: flickering screen.
so the problem is Samdung's QC....
anyway no more somedung, I switched to Xiaomi Mi Mix, still preordering from China.....
You have to watch these chinies owened tablet and phone manufactues, they have been found to come with built in spyware, sending copys of all your texts ect back to china, it`s been in the news that last few day`s
Lenovo notebooks had a spyware app and Lenovo had to issue insturctions on hot to remove it once it was found.
John.
Crescendo Xenomorph said:
so the problem is Samdung's QC....
anyway no more somedung, I switched to Xiaomi Mi Mix, still preordering from China.....
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That's OK, I can scan and remove all those spyware.
Still its better to have it properly supported with actual updates (older phone still got all UI + android update, hello MIUI 8).
Rather than using phone without proper software support....
Tab S - buggy and prolly the last MM update
Note 3 - useless LL update, very unstable, consider alpha
Note 8.0 - buggy last KK update, switched to CM13 and happy with it