S9+ Location Services Turning On By Itself - Samsung Galaxy S9 Questions & Answers

My AT&T Galaxy S9+ (firmware is up-to-date) has on odd problem. I have turned location services off to increase battery life. I frequently get a pop-up asking if I want to enable high accuracy for location services. No matter whether I hit Agree or Disagree, I see that Location Services has been turned on by itself. Not a big problem if I have the phone in my hand, but it happens when I'm not using the phone, and drains my battery much faster.
AT&T support is completely baffled. Has anyone here experienced the same behavior?

Its to do when wifi turns on it turns on location for some reason ive tried blocking everything but no help ... its driving me nuts lol . I changed to pie and it still does it as soon as wifi turns on or connects..

Solution?
I turned off WiFi calling, and so far things seem to be working properly. For the past 2 days, there have been no instances of Location Services turning on by itself, and no pop-ups about improving accuracy.

its because they want to be able to spy on everyone... sad but true

samcham said:
I turned off WiFi calling, and so far things seem to be working properly. For the past 2 days, there have been no instances of Location Services turning on by itself, and no pop-ups about improving accuracy.
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maybe flash the U1 firmware to your phone? that should remove any at&t caused issues, if it is indeed caused by at&t. at least it would be a process of elimination

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Battery - Wi-Fi and Awake always solid blue

So I've been trying to get more life out of my battery, I get decent now, but not the 18+ hours I've seen other people getting. I think the main problem here is, if I go view the Applications -> Battery Usage screen, the "Wi-Fi" and "Awake" bars are always full blue, even when the phone hasn't been touched in a couple hours.
Does anyone know what actually causes these to now sleep? Is it push email? Or some other setting I'm missing?
Thanks
RubenRybnik said:
So I've been trying to get more life out of my battery, I get decent now, but not the 18+ hours I've seen other people getting. I think the main problem here is, if I go view the Applications -> Battery Usage screen, the "Wi-Fi" and "Awake" bars are always full blue, even when the phone hasn't been touched in a couple hours.
Does anyone know what actually causes these to now sleep? Is it push email? Or some other setting I'm missing?
Thanks
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Look and find out you can start by turning off wifi if not using it post your screen shots of battery use someone may help
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RubenRybnik said:
So I've been trying to get more life out of my battery, I get decent now, but not the 18+ hours I've seen other people getting. I think the main problem here is, if I go view the Applications -> Battery Usage screen, the "Wi-Fi" and "Awake" bars are always full blue, even when the phone hasn't been touched in a couple hours.
Does anyone know what actually causes these to now sleep? Is it push email? Or some other setting I'm missing?
Thanks
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Try Menu/Settings/Wireless and Network/Wi-Fi Settings. Then press Menu/Advanced/Wi-Fi- sleep policy.
Play with those settings. You are probably set to "Never". Folks have actually been reporting better battery life with this setting (powering on and shutting down the wifi eats up battery) You can play around with it to get your own results.
Hit thanks if this helps!
pojieps said:
Try Menu/Settings/Wireless and Network/Wi-Fi Settings. Then press Menu/Advanced/Wi-Fi- sleep policy.
Play with those settings. You are probably set to "Never". Folks have actually been reporting better battery life with this setting (powering on and shutting down the wifi eats up battery) You can play around with it to get your own results.
Hit thanks if this helps!
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Ah...yes, it is set to never. So leaving it on "never" gets better results, say if you're at home and always have a wifi connection? Also, if the wi-fi is on, does that mean the device can't sleep I take it, that's what's keeping the device awake with screen off?
Thanks for the tip.
RubenRybnik said:
Ah...yes, it is set to never. So leaving it on "never" gets better results, say if you're at home and always have a wifi connection? Also, if the wi-fi is on, does that mean the device can't sleep I take it, that's what's keeping the device awake with screen off?
Thanks for the tip.
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I've heard both sides to this argument, and frankly I don't think most people understand why changing it does, or in other cases does not help.
I suspect that the answer to your issue isn't going to be found here. Here's the theory:
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - Never" results in better battery life for some; it's likely because these individuals have a fairly low 3g signal, which tends to draw more battery when periodic updates/synchronization occurs (e.g., gmail, calendar, facebook, etc.). By leaving wifi Sleep set to never, the wifi (which THEORETICALLY uses less power than 3g) can do the work instead.
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - When Screen is Off" can result in better battery life for a number of reasons, many of the underlying issues being hard to identify. For example, if your router tends to send a lot of 'noise' and wake up your phone, having wi-fi disabled will prevent this. Location services in the OS - which you've probably permitted to 'help locate you faster' - even when you are NOT connected to a wifi network - will periodically ping wireless networks around you to help facilitate faster geolocation. This uses battery as well.
But don't confuse the generalities that have spawned from people's anecdotal situations with what could be a very different problem.
Was your phone primarily located in one location during most of the 'awake' period? If so, then it was probably connected to the same router most of that time. If so, it really shouldn't matter what the setting was for Advanced Wifi - the phone should still sleep.
If you turn off wi-fi on the device, and the device then sleeps, then you've narrowed the issue some, but that is not a solution, because what are you going to do, not use wifi?
You've got to dig deeper; your issue may be any of the following - rogue app that keeps a wakelock, rogue app that updates too frequently, wifi modem issue, router issue, OS issue, etc.
In short, you need to figure out what's keeping the phone awake. Get CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to help you get insight into what's keeping the device awake.
Capp5050 said:
I've heard both sides to this argument, and frankly I don't think most people understand why changing it does, or in other cases does not help.
I suspect that the answer to your issue isn't going to be found here. Here's the theory:
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - Never" results in better battery life for some; it's likely because these individuals have a fairly low 3g signal, which tends to draw more battery when periodic updates/synchronization occurs (e.g., gmail, calendar, facebook, etc.). By leaving wifi Sleep set to never, the wifi (which THEORETICALLY uses less power than 3g) can do the work instead.
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - When Screen is Off" can result in better battery life for a number of reasons, many of the underlying issues being hard to identify. For example, if your router tends to send a lot of 'noise' and wake up your phone, having wi-fi disabled will prevent this. Location services in the OS - which you've probably permitted to 'help locate you faster' - even when you are NOT connected to a wifi network - will periodically ping wireless networks around you to help facilitate faster geolocation. This uses battery as well.
But don't confuse the generalities that have spawned from people's anecdotal situations with what could be a very different problem.
Was your phone primarily located in one location during most of the 'awake' period? If so, then it was probably connected to the same router most of that time. If so, it really shouldn't matter what the setting was for Advanced Wifi - the phone should still sleep.
If you turn off wi-fi on the device, and the device then sleeps, then you've narrowed the issue some, but that is not a solution, because what are you going to do, not use wifi?
You've got to dig deeper; your issue may be any of the following - rogue app that keeps a wakelock, rogue app that updates too frequently, wifi modem issue, router issue, OS issue, etc.
In short, you need to figure out what's keeping the phone awake. Get CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to help you get insight into what's keeping the device awake.
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Thank you for that very informative post. My phone was on my desk all day today( worked from home ) and wi-fi is set to always on, and it never slept, not even once.
I'll try disabling wi-fi( should have done this earlier to be honest and checked ) and then I'll download those apps, I just got Badass Battery Monitor, I'll check out the two you recommended as well. Thanks for the info!
Your phone should still go into deep sleep with wifi on. If it doesn't then you have something else wakelocking your phone. However, if wifi is set to never sleep, and wifi is enabled, the bar on the battery chart will always be solid blue.
So just installed CPU Spy, it looks like IM+ is the biggest user of wakelocks. I like to always be signed in to my accounts, but not at such a huge cost of battery, does anyone know of a better multi IM client that will push updates to you? I used to have IM+ on the iPhone( yea I know, just switched two months ago, and never looking back ) and the push on it worked great. The 'push' IM+ says it has is awful, most of the time I never get my IMs sent to me at all.
Also have skype signed on all the time, not sure if that is wakelock'ing anything, I'll have to keep an eye on it, it didn't show up on CPU Spy.
Try IMO, free from the Android Market. Its a multi-IM client that combines most common clients including Skype. I've used it. It creates some wakelocks, but not sufficient to wake the phone. I don't use IM very often so I'd be curious to hear how it works for you.
Capp5050 said:
Try IMO, free from the Android Market. Its a multi-IM client that combines most common clients including Skype. I've used it. It creates some wakelocks, but not sufficient to wake the phone. I don't use IM very often so I'd be curious to hear how it works for you.
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Thanks ... Giving it a try today, I'll let you know how it goes.
Capp5050 said:
Try IMO, free from the Android Market. Its a multi-IM client that combines most common clients including Skype. I've used it. It creates some wakelocks, but not sufficient to wake the phone. I don't use IM very often so I'd be curious to hear how it works for you.
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So been trying IMO the past couple days. Seems much better than IM+. Haven't seen any disconnects, I get my IMs about 30sec - 1min after the computer gets them, which is fine, and the wake-locking is extremely minimal. IM+ was awful with the wake-locking.
So that clears up the Always awake issue, flashed Blazer 3.8 last night, so can't comment on battery too much yet, also calibrating today.
RubenRybnik said:
So been trying IMO the past couple days. Seems much better than IM+. Haven't seen any disconnects, I get my IMs about 30sec - 1min after the computer gets them, which is fine, and the wake-locking is extremely minimal. IM+ was awful with the wake-locking.
So that clears up the Always awake issue, flashed Blazer 3.8 last night, so can't comment on battery too much yet, also calibrating today.
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Thanks for the feedback, glad to hear it helped, and I now feel a little more confident leaving my IM 'on' more often.

Lg G3 Massive Battery Drain from bam_dmux_wakelock (Pics Included)

Alright everyone,
Some details about my phone before we begin-
I am a moderate user. I play some games, check emails, text and that's about it.
My phone is NOT rooted and obviously I am not running a custom rom, or a alternate launcher, and I haven't really modified many if at all any settings.
So, that being said I am experience some sever kernel wake lock issues form bam_dmux_wakelock for the past week or so. As you see in my picture, 6 out of my 7 hours of up time (off charger) has been kept from deep sleep, therefore destroying my battery time.
Today I have maybe 30-40 minutes total of screen on time, but not nearly the 6 hours of non deep sleep time.
I've turned off "okay google" detection, disabled wifi when screen is off, restricted background data for youtube, disabled google + (I don't use social media) and my brightness is on auto mode, typically around 35% when the screen is on.
If google can see this I would like to offer them a huge F you for changing the permission architecture so that gplay apps cant detected whats causing the wake-lock without root. They are pretty much forcing us to root our phones to access features locked meanwhile continuing to call android "Open Source"
Can anyone give me a recommendation on what are my options? Or should I really just root my phone, which I don't want to do (I have in the past but I haven't needed too with the G3 since it has everything I want without root)
I don't think it's Google's fault if LG makes a sucks kernel. Anyway, bam_dmux seems to be related to radios. Could it be that during those wake locks you were in an area where there is weak signal? Are you still experiencing this error after a reboot of the phone?
keithleyson said:
I don't think it's Google's fault if LG makes a sucks kernel. Anyway, bam_dmux seems to be related to radios. Could it be that during those wake locks you were in an area where there is weak signal? Are you still experiencing this error after a reboot of the phone?
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I've reset the phone multiple times, and have also cleared the cache from the bootloader as well. I don't have a weak signal in my area; also the radio interface is a separate wake lock code from bam_dmux. From what I read bam_dmux has to do with google background services.
Bump
JetForceF22 said:
I've reset the phone multiple times, and have also cleared the cache from the bootloader as well. I don't have a weak signal in my area; also the radio interface is a separate wake lock code from bam_dmux. From what I read bam_dmux has to do with google background services.
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Google location service may be running in the background to much too long.
gee2012 said:
Google location service may be running in the background to much too long.
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I don't see a google location service only the Verizon Location Agent; there are two other services called "LocationServices" under All in my application manager, and they are both listed at being 0.00 bytes in size (?) I force stopped those anyways along with the verizon location agent which restarted anyways. I also have location completely off in my quick menu from the pull down bar, I only turn it on when I'm using GPS.

GPS/Location lost when screen is off??

Hi!
I used to have no problems with this situation on any of my previous phones:
In apps that uses gps, like runkeeper, i get very fast gps lock.. but, then, once I disconnect the screen, the "location" seems to be turned off.. The gps track stops counting. When I turn the screen on again to check what is happening, the phone instantly gets gps lock and registers that new spot. Basically what happens is that I will get a track but, instead of having the full track, I only get "straight" lines between the points the gps locked when i turner the screen on to check what was going on..
I have the location in high accuracy..
Any ideas?
Thanks!
I have the Impression there is a different location provider for the new chipset. When i am at places without any gps signals (for example a tunnel) the reported location is moving with the same speed and direction i had before coming into the tunnel. There also a change in my Google location history. When the screen is off it looks like the location is provided by phone cell only. The reported location is more than 300m away from my real location. I have not seen this in the same locations with my older phones. (Edit: All with Oyxgen OS 3.1.2)
I have the same issue as op on 3.1.2, not rooted.
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I have this stupid thing also, stupid phone,
The gps loses the fix right after you leave the app that uses it. It doesn't work in the background, I'm gonna have to return my phone sadly.
So does this happen with the newer firmware? Can you put it in the background with the screen on and it run? It seems like a software issue more so than hardware, maybe I'm wrong but who knows..
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obviously a software issue, but they won't fix it since nobody talks about it. If you switch to another app that doesn't use GPS or turn off the screen the phone loses the fix right away.
Still happens with Oxygen OS 3.2.0
Can you give a try launching a nav session in google map. On my lg G2, when I get a fix in google map then turn the screen off, I will loose my fix. But if I launch a turn by turn nav session I will keep my gps fix even if I turn the screen off.
Could this be related to doze hibernating Maps or whatever app /?
Jfxmedia said:
Could this be related to doze hibernating Maps or whatever app /?
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Yes. This is likely related to the aggressive Doze mode that has plagued users in receiving notifications. Try disabling Doze by following the instructions in the link below and try GPS again. If it works, then Doze is the cause.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/push-notification-issues.451149/
Mit Hipster said:
Yes. This is likely related to the aggressive Doze mode that has plagued users in receiving notifications. Try disabling Doze by following the instructions in the link below and try GPS again. If it works, then Doze is the cause.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/push-notification-issues.451149/
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Anyone tested this with success?
Turn off power saving mode for using GPS while turn off screen
I have used Strava and it can not be received GPS signal when screen off. Then I turned off power saving mode and it was OK.
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Anyone tested this with success?
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its dose feature that's interfering. I had the same issue. disabling dose does the trick.
dpj52190 said:
its dose feature that's interfering. I had the same issue. disabling dose does the trick.
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And this is why I make my rom that disables doze all together. It kills battery more then it saves.

Wifi drain battery

I have a problem with wifi. In battery stats wifi has more consumption as screen.
I never seen it on any other android smartphone in my house.
Somebody with this behavior? I am using latest stock.
Check Location>Wifi Scanning
any other idea
thx, i disable scanning in location, reboot, after week still wifi 1st in battery consumption, it's not big problem, battery life on this phone is excellent, but can be better
It's a wrong report from Android, your WiFi is not draining your battery (a few of us have the same problem, me included). I don't know where it comes from but you can just ignore it (there's no real way to fix the issue I'm afraid)
Mine was doing the same - and I use Chrome a lot for web surfing
Disable Location permissions in Chrome (Settings->Apps->Chrome->Permissions->Location Off)
ok, i just ignoring it, not big deal, battery life is fine, i just was wondering if can be even better everybody know android is quite tricky
Some screenshots would be great, so people can help.
That's the kind of problem he is having, which is just a bug from Android ?
DadOudidOuda said:
That's the kind of problem he is having, which is just a bug from Android ?
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Can you also post how much mah does that use(by clicking on WiFi). And also the battery map clicked.
Thanks
bharatshaan said:
Can you also post how much mah does that use(by clicking on WiFi). And also the battery map clicked.
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Here you go
DadOudidOuda said:
Here you go
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I hope you have your WiFi scanning and WiFi network notification off.
I faced same problem in the starting.
I switched above settings off and cleared cache and then switched off WiFi and restated phone.
Now it is gone. Hope it helps.
bharatshaan said:
I hope you have your WiFi scanning and WiFi network notification off.
I faced same problem in the starting.
I switched above settings off and cleared cache and then switched off WiFi and restated phone.
Now it is gone. Hope it helps.
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Everything has been off for a while, the "problem" appeared afterwards but I personally don't mind, I know that's just a bug
DadOudidOuda said:
Everything has been off for a while, the "problem" appeared afterwards but I personally don't mind, I know that's just a bug
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Are you guys only seeing this reporting when wifi is on but not connected? Or all the time?
Only had the device 2 days, but no sign of it for me - wifi on, background scanning and network notification also on. Only been out of wifi coverage for a few hours though.
dandrumheller said:
Are you guys only seeing this reporting when wifi is on but not connected? Or all the time?
Only had the device 2 days, but no sign of it for me - wifi on, background scanning and network notification also on. Only been out of wifi coverage for a few hours though.
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It's when the WiFi is on (connected or not).
OK, some say it's a bug, others say it's no biggie since the large battery, but.... I used to get home after a 12 hr days work, and have 4-5 hrs sot and still 20-30% left. Now I need to keep the phone charged, because it's down to 10 % halfway... That IS a BIGGIE.... And for those who say it's just a stats thingie, well, if this thingie shows 0%: your phone WILL shut down!
Ive tried ALL tips, NOTHING works. Period. What bugs me most is that I don't know why! I turned off scanning, cleared cache, reboot, etc, heck, I even did multiple factory resets, NO GO on any of those!
Believe me I'm happy for those that have solved the issue, but this should have never happened.
After consulting Motorola's customer services I was advised to send it back for repair, and so I did. I need to get it back still, but if this really is a bug, than:
SHAME ON YOU MOTOROLA/LENOVO.
You need to fix this asap, because it really IS a BIGGIE!
Even when it was disabled all the time.
you have to disable location scanning for bluetooth and wifi. I've had the same issue. I also dont use high accuracy location. I use device only to save battery and prevent wifi from turning on. It drains crap ton of battery.
Yea! I had also disabled it and made one thread for this so let other knows the solution.
SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/guide-prevent-wifi-draining-battery-t3612123

Question Why does my Pixel 6 Pro when idling uses more battery than my Nexus 5 when idling

I've recently upgraded to the Google Pixel 6 Pro after 8 years with the Google Nexus 5, so, this would be my first time with a "modern" smartphone as of present
Everything is wonderful except one thing, the battery life
When idling (I do not touch the phone at all, rarely or no lock/unlock) I watched my Pixel 6 Pro drained 6% in the span of 2 hours, so roughly 3% per hour (That is a lot!), compared to my Nexus 5 which feels like it drained 5% if left alone for the whole day
What is going on? is it a "modern" phone thing? is it my phone? my settings? at this rate, it needs to be charged daily
Here is the Battery Usage breakdown;
https://imgur.com/a/mgJsN7n
Battery Usage breakdown while asleep;
https://imgur.com/a/Mj3VDE3
Why does "Mobile Network Standby", "Ambient Display", "Phone Idle" eat so much battery while idling, I am thinking of getting rid of "Your Phone Companion" even though I find it useful, conflicted if it is worth the battery, everything else looks good
EDIT: I am happy to say, after uninstalling "Your Phone Companion" the battery began to show improvement and following all the battery tips helped me maximize it, now I feel like I can go 3 days with the phone without charging it
In one of the battery threads Mobile Network Standby is a big topic. It appears to be a bug that is impacting some people. I would expect a fix from goggle for that. I have nothing on ambient display.
It's highly possible your phone isn't ever going into a deep sleep, which can cause unnecessary battery drain from apps that are stuck running in the background, or causing the phone to "wake". Did you transfer over all your apps and settings from your old phone? Some have said this has caused unusual high battery drain, and a factory reset where you don't restore from backup has helped.
Install AccuBattery or GSam battery monitor to get an understanding of your battery usage in greater detail.
AccuBattery - Apps on Google Play
AccuBattery monitors battery health performance via science
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GSam Battery Monitor - Apps on Google Play
GSam Battery Monitor provides deep insights into what is using your battery.
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Thank you for the lead on the bug, and I will look into AccuBattery
I did not transfer from my old phone, I configured/installed from out of the box
At most, you should only lose .5 - 7%hr when idle, not 3. Something is definitely going on in the background that needs to be addressed.
Here's how mine looks.
minun said:
Thank you for the lead on the bug, and I will look into AccuBattery
I did not transfer from my old phone, I configured/installed from out of the box
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In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
RetroTech07 said:
At most, you should only lose .5 - 7%hr when idle, not 3. Something is definitely going on in the background that needs to be addressed.
Here's how mine looks.
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Thank you so much for this, it helps to compare
Lughnasadh said:
In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
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I had the phone since the 17th, I been configuring and setting it up for a week, I have only been using it normally for about half a week, which is why I am noticing the battery now
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
WiFi needs to be on
Bluetooth is always off
Would my location take a hit if I turn off scanning
Lift to wake is off
minun said:
I had the phone since the 17th, I been configuring and setting it up for a week, I have only been using it normally for about half a week, which is why I am noticing the battery now
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
WiFi needs to be on
Bluetooth is always off
Would my location take a hit if I turn off scanning
Lift to wake is off
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If you have LTE as preferred then you don't have to worry about turning off 5G. Preferred network type can be found in the Network & internet settings under your carrier settings.
Adaptive network connectivity is in the Network & internet settings at the very bottom.
I wasn't talking about turning WiFi & Bluetooth off, but rather turning off WiFi & Bluetooth scanning, which can be found in Settings>Location>Location Services. And no, your location would not take a hit.
Also remember that when comparing your idle drain to others that you don't necessarily have the same apps running in the background as they do, the same settings, same amount of notifications going off, etc. My personal opinion is that anything under 1%/hr is acceptable. I have seen a wide range of idle drain percentages among 6 Pro users. My current idle drain measured over 3 1/2 days is .78%/hr with deep sleep around 85%.
Lughnasadh said:
If you have LTE as preferred then you don't have to worry about turning off 5G. Preferred network type can be found in the Network & internet settings under your carrier settings.
Adaptive network connectivity is in the Network & internet settings at the very bottom.
I wasn't talking about turning WiFi & Bluetooth off, but rather turning off WiFi & Bluetooth scanning, which can be found in Settings>Location>Location Services. And no, your location would not take a hit.
Also remember that when comparing your idle drain to others that you don't necessarily have the same apps running in the background as they do, the same settings, same amount of notifications going off, etc. My personal opinion is that anything under 1%/hr is acceptable. I have seen a wide range of idle drain percentages among 6 Pro users. My current idle drain measured over 3 1/2 days is .78%/hr with deep sleep around 85%.
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I would also like to get to that level
the crazy thing is my phone barely has anything going on except for the system and your phone app
what would be used for my location if i turned off my wifi and bluetooth scanning at home, my data?
minun said:
I would also like to get to that level
the crazy thing is my phone barely has anything going on except for the system and your phone app
what would be used for my location if i turned off my wifi and bluetooth scanning at home, my data?
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When WiFi & Bluetooth scanning our on, your phone is constantly looking for Bluetooth devices near you that you may want to connect to or WiFi networks to connect to. It's really only useful if you're out and about and want to connect to such services. Turning it off doesn't disable your location. As long as your location setting is on, your phone will know where it is at.
Yeah, I would uninstall that Your Phone Companion app. It certainly is using a lot of battery in the background. But it's a trade off...if you really like it and find it useful than you may just have to take the battery hit (as with any app really).
Also, I notice the stock kernel has a couple of kernel wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake to a certain extent (at least for me). Using a custom kernel can help but that's a whole other conversation.
I really think after the December update and after more app developers have optimized their apps for Android 12 we will get a better idea of how the battery really is on this phone.
Lughnasadh said:
When WiFi & Bluetooth scanning our on, your phone is constantly looking for Bluetooth devices near you that you may want to connect to or WiFi networks to connect to. It's really only useful if you're out and about and want to connect to such services. Turning it off doesn't disable your location. As long as your location setting is on, your phone will know where it is at.
Yeah, I would uninstall that Your Phone Companion app. It certainly is using a lot of battery in the background. But it's a trade off...if you really like it and find it useful than you may just have to take the battery hit (as with any app really).
Also, I notice the stock kernel has a couple of kernel wakelocks that are keeping the phone awake to a certain extent (at least for me). Using a custom kernel can help but that's a whole other conversation.
I really think after the December update and after more app developers have optimized their apps for Android 12 we will get a better idea of how the battery really is on this phone.
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Okay, sounds great
just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
minun said:
Okay, sounds great
just for my knowledge, if I turn off scanning, would it not detect any new bluetooth device or wi-fi unless I turn it on? it will still connect to devices/signals it knows?
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If scanning is off it won't constantly try to see if their is a Bluetooth device or WiFi connection nearby, but yes it will still connect to the devices/networks it knows. And if you want to connect to a new device or network you can just go into that setting (Bluetooth or Network) and it will scan automatically once you open up that setting or choose to add a new device, etc.
minun said:
I believe I have LTE over 5G but could you run me through how to turn off 5G
Not sure about adaptive network connectivity or what it is
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Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.
If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.
Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,
Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.
Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
Lughnasadh said:
If scanning is off it won't constantly try to see if their is a Bluetooth device or WiFi connection nearby...
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Funny enough, I have wifi scanning off but still get notifications about nearby connections lol
RetroTech07 said:
Funny enough, I have wifi scanning off but still get notifications about nearby connections lol
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Oh, there's also a setting in Network preferences for "Notify for public networks". Maybe that needs to be disabled as well (I have it disabled)??? Otherwise, huh, weird, lol.
Lughnasadh said:
Oh, there's also a setting in Network preferences for "Notify for public networks". Maybe that needs to be disabled as well (I have it disabled)??? Otherwise, huh, weird, lol.
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That's it! Just turned it off, I must've forgotten about that one lol. Thanks
RetroTech07 said:
Go into settings > network and internet > sims > preferred network type.
If that option is missing, you can manually change it under phone settings by opening up the phone app, then punching in the following: *#*#4636#*#*. From the new screen that presents itself, select phone information. Then, you'll have an option to select your network type. Select LTE.
Adaptive connectivity can "help" extend battery life, according to Google by managing network connections,
Adaptive connectivity should keep you on 4G for low usage tasks... Reddit, chat, etc. When your phone demands more bandwidth, it switches to 5G (Netflix, streaming, etc.), but users have said if you're in an area with spotty 5G or none at all, switching to LTE only (given the instructions above) will help reduce battery drain.
Go into settings > network and internet > adaptive connectivity > off.
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If I turn off Adaptive Connectivity, it would just stay on LTE and won't switch between 5g (setLTE is my preferred network),3g,2g?
how about "Allow 2G", do I need this on and would turning it off save battery? it read
'Use 2G mobile connections. For emergency calls, 2G is always turned on.'
Lughnasadh said:
In addition to what everyone else said, many users have reported that it took several days or more for the phone to "settle down" and adaptive battery to make an impact, at which point their battery got much better. Also, I would expect a lot of bug fixes in the December update that may help.
Also using 4G instead of 5G (because of the modem previously mentioned may help, as well as turning off adaptive network connectivity, WiFi & Bluetooth scanning and anything AOD related or things such as lift to wake (if you don't use then).
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Isn't the point of adaptive connectivity to keep the phone on 4G unless 5G is absolutely necessary?
MrBelter said:
Isn't the point of adaptive connectivity to keep the phone on 4G unless 5G is absolutely necessary?
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No, that's not how adaptive connectivity works. Your phone will always prefer the highest tier network available (as long it get's a signal).

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