I just installes arhd 2.1 rom and evrrything works fine.
I got most things installed.i need like twitter, fb, adv. task killer,
even auto startup killer, titanium, juice, setcpu and some more.
I disabled all notifications.
I prevent all startup apps i didnt want (all but 2,or 3)
I set sync to off. I checked all app settings twice.
Still there.are mostly like all apps running after i start my phone
And if i kill them it takes a while but they come back...
How to fix that ? Beside all my programms things like internet, mail, messages are also on.
My ram is down to like 210mb, when i kill its back to 480.
Thanks guys!
Android is nothing like windows.
Killing apps & processes to save memory is bad for your phone. Android handles its memory very well, and you killing apps interferes with that.
Apps are loaded into the RAM, for your convenience, if Android runs low on memory, it will decide what apps to kill.
I'm sure there is a guide that explains this.
andyharney said:
Android is nothing like windows.
Killing apps & processes to save memory is bad for your phone. Android handles its memory very well, and you killing apps interferes with that.
Apps are loaded into the RAM, for your convenience, if Android runs low on memory, it will decide what apps to kill.
I'm sure there is a guide that explains this.
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So (Auto)-Taskkillers are Bull**** ?
Also Startup Prevention ? Everything like that ?
Or anything "good" ? I guess SetCpu is something useful which comes
into that area.
If someone has a guide, give me a "call"
Task killers should only be used to kill rogue apps, apps that are poorly coded. They shouldn't be used to manage your memory.
SetCPU is kinda different, all it does is allow you to alter the speed of your CPU.
mydanny said:
So (Auto)-Taskkillers are Bull**** ?
Also Startup Prevention ? Everything like that ?
Or anything "good" ? I guess SetCpu is something useful which comes
into that area.
If someone has a guide, give me a "call"
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I find it very difficult to understand people who are using taskillers in their phone. The whole point, i guess, is to save some battery? But do you know that taskillers run constantly and consume even more battery? And you might end up messing up with your system and experiencing lags/problems.
The memory management of android system is different than what we are used to. You should let android manage the memory. If you still want to quit some of the apps which you think are using up your memory, you can do it manually via "manage applications" in applications.
I m also using ARHD. And i don't use any taskillers/ startup managers. I never experienced lags when playing gameloft games (i tell you they require lots of memory) or angry birds. I have my wifi-on, sync on all the time.
SetCpu is used to manage the cpu speed of your DHD. This can be used to create profiles (or comes already with some profiles like ondemand etc.) and the program itself understands the need for memory and adjusts your cpu speed according to that. It might give you some more bat. life.
Of course what kind of programs we want to use in our DHD is upto us. And people will have a divided opinion on whether to use taskillers or not. But if you ask me (and my almost 3 years of android experience), you are better off without any taskillers.
sphuyal said:
I find it very difficult to understand people who are using taskillers in their phone. The whole point, i guess, is to save some battery? But do you know that taskillers run constantly and consume even more battery? And you might end up messing up with your system and experiencing lags/problems.
The memory management of android system is different than what we are used to. You should let android manage the memory. If you still want to quit some of the apps which you think are using up your memory, you can do it manually via "manage applications" in applications.
I m also using ARHD. And i don't use any taskillers/ startup managers. I never experienced lags when playing gameloft games (i tell you they require lots of memory) or angry birds. I have my wifi-on, sync on all the time.
SetCpu is used to manage the cpu speed of your DHD. This can be used to create profiles (or comes already with some profiles like ondemand etc.) and the program itself understands the need for memory and adjusts your cpu speed according to that. It might give you some more bat. life.
Of course what kind of programs we want to use in our DHD is upto us. And people will have a divided opinion on whether to use taskillers or not. But if you ask me (and my almost 3 years of android experience), you are better off without any taskillers.
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Word. Sounds convincing.
I will remove the **** from my phone - Task Killer and Startup Manager.
You also dislike Juice Defender ? I heard only positive things about battery.
Or is this 100% crap, too ?
mydanny said:
Word. Sounds convincing.
I will remove the **** from my phone - Task Killer and Startup Manager.
You also dislike Juice Defender ? I heard only positive things about battery.
Or is this 100% crap, too ?
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I have never used Juice Defender but it is a OK app (it uses some bat. though). All i use i "currentwidget" to monitor what causes battery drain (if any). If i were you, i would see how the DHD goes along with/without juice defender for 48 hours. And then evaluate if i really need juice defender.
Killing apps is liking turning your car engine off on every street you go down. It's better to keep the engine running, it uses less petrol.
Same with memory management on Android, if you keep killing, it has to startup the app again each time you use it which actually uses more battery.
The only thing I use is setCPU on a smartass governor with a profile for when the screen goes off to reduce CPU usage to 450mhz. Mine idle's at 1-3ma.
What a bunch of rubbish. Task killers are an excellent easy to keep your phone running fast and smooth. They also save your battery by not letting tasks run in the background and eat battery unnecessarily.
I hope that wasn't too obvious a troll ...
Task killers suck. They are the Android equivalent of Windows registry cleaners. Sold to you to speed up your system but really they break it.
Sent from my super slick Android device.
dr.m0x said:
What a bunch of rubbish. Task killers are an excellent easy to keep your phone running fast and smooth. They also save your battery by not letting tasks run in the background and eat battery unnecessarily.
I hope that wasn't too obvious a troll ...
Task killers suck. They are the Android equivalent of Windows registry cleaners. Sold to you to speed up your system but really they break it.
Sent from my super slick Android device.
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You had me for a minute there
I have upgraded my Galaxy W to Jelly Bean using Custom Room (4.2.2) Cyanogenmod 10.1 alpha 2. maybe later alpha 3.
Everything runs well. but why my phone's battery drains so fast? and please help me HOW TO SOLVE IT AND MAKE IT LAST LONG TIME???
THANKS VERY MUCH....
Backup your apps, factory reset your phone. If battery drain problem persists, install Greenify or deep Sleep battery saver from Google Play to better manage battery resources.
Lim Wee Huat said:
Backup your apps, factory reset your phone. If battery drain problem persists, install Greenify or deep Sleep battery saver from Google Play to better manage battery resources.
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Thank you for your suggestion... I will try....
Electro Tobib Muhajir said:
Thank you for your suggestion... I will try....
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when you just flashed the battery will definitely be shorter. Let it recharge for a few cycles before determining whether its good or bad battery life. Keep in mind however that even at full potential, the battery will not last for more than 2 days even at light usage.
if battery life is more important to you compared to "the newest OS" and whatever extra features it brings with it, then I highly recommend installing acro's CM9 RC2 (yes it is ICS) as the 2.x.x kernel is far better at battery life than 3.x.x (i'm currently testing it and I can already feel the difference! I believe I can reach 2.5 days at modest usage but I will have to update you on that after my first few discharge cycle for battery to reach potential after flashing new rom). I do, however notice a few annoyances with RC2 (not sure if its really the ROM, or the custom kernel i'm using, or Nova Launcher is to be blamed), so if it continues to bug me I may just switch back out to latest ICS =p.
If keeping with the latest JB is important for u, best thing you could do is download a custom kernel for it that supports UV(undervolting), then get IncrediControl and tune down your UV based on some voltage tables you can find in FAQ. This alone won't bring you a HUGE improvement in battery life but its definitely an observable difference. On top of UV, try to UC(underclock) your CPU to 1GHz. Most daily functions, apps and games (depending on how intensive it is) will work perfectly smooth even at 1GHz. IMO, the most important point of UCing is you will notice a very significant difference in the heat of your battery (ie backcover of your phone). Heat is generally bad for the battery (shorter life + faster draining) so UC is definitely a good thing to do =). Of course, on top of all those, get greenify and wakelock detector(WLD) from market to control your not-so-frequently-used apps. Use WLD to track down what is keeping your phone awake (hence drain more battery) and use greenify to hibernate all the not-so-frequently-used apps you have (example of things you DON'T want to greenify: whatsapp and gmail as you don't want to kill these 2 programs when you lock your screen. You want to continue receiving whatsapp messages and gmail when you locked your screen right? XD! Examples of things you SHOULD greenify: games, music player. Maybe some of the games or other apps may keep a background service active, secretly using your battery even though the last time you used it was 2 days ago!)
Finally, if your wonder is about 1-1.5 years old, chances are your battery is already bloated (perhaps you can feel your battery through the backcover of your phone even!) A bloated battery is a dangerous and short-capacity battery. Even with the best rom you may only push through a day from 100-0%. If your battery still looks fine but your phone is nearing its birthday, go ahead and do some online shopping (ebay or local equivalent, like malaysia we have Lelong.com.my) and get a battery for your phone. Its usually much cheaper than buying from telephone shops.
EDIT: Adding on to all of that, choosing a good governor+i/o scheduler combo is important as well. If our phone is similar with the S+, smartassv2+sio(i've used this, its quite smooth and battery is good) OR OnDemand+noop is thought to be very good in terms of battery life and responsiveness. Lulzactive is also very good but its not so easy to tune it so i usually would stay away from it. Do bear in mind that although the former 2 combo is good, it still highly depends on how you use your phone so there will not be a universally best governor+io combo. Both of those suggested by me are supposingly best in responsiveness as well as deepsleep battery conserving (only if the assumption that our roms work the same as the roms tested in S+, which MAY NOT be true).
TL;DR? try smartassv2+sio (u may change this using IncrediControl, get from playstore). Then if you are not satisfied with your current performance/battery life, you may continue experimenting by changing governor and i/o scheduler one at a time. If you are doing the testing, make sure to have some way to record your tests if not you will 100% be deceived by placebo!(with actual numbers you will clearly see whether your feeling is placebo or if there really is an improvement)
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
oribunokiyuusou said:
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
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Sounds like your battery is bloated. Can u show me a screenshot of your battery graph and app usage?
oribunokiyuusou said:
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
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that 20% is not actually the 20% of the battery juice. It is 20% of whatever amount of battery is drained due to the display being ON. Like if your battery is used from 100% to 90%, then only 2% is used by the display.
I am not sure if I could explain what I mean.
EDIT: Hmmm maybe I misunderstood what you said... If that is the case, disregard.
And also my galaxy W will use all of its battery charge when the display is constantly ON for about 3-5 hours.
Actually, I've figured out what it was. It was Google Now. Chewing away at the battery without saying a word anywhere in the battery screen. I am now back to my old 3 days battery.
you need to install cpu spay from google play and you need look deep sleep time.
this reaction is typical if your coming from a stock or at least cm9.
there has been a lot of arguments about battery life of cm10 and above.
in my opinion, there really is a difference, i mean cm10+ drains battery faster.
and the reason being is of course the features there is in cm10++.
if you're after battery life, stay with stock or cm9 (for now).
but if you feel like your in with cm10+ and you don't want to go back like me, then may want to try these tricks:
1) using Titanium Backup, freeze the apps that you don't really use.
- in my phone i froze pico tts, voice search, talk back, etc. (i even froze google search )
2) i use an app called "autostarts", it can disable auto starting of app including those of the system.
- in my phone, i disabled google maps in every activity. ex. after startup, connectivity changed, wifi connected, widget updating
3) disable system settings which also contribute to battery draining.
- disable location service when your not using it
- disable automatic backup/restore
- disable haptic feedback
- disable autosync
- disable the top battery drainers when not in use (wifi, mobile data, gps, bluetooth)
- and many more just explore
4) do not use so many widgets (my home screen has 0 widget)
5) do not use live wallpaper
6) charge only using the original charger, not from other phone/brand, not from a usb port
- the best way to charge is to avoid using the phone until it's fully charged
7) finally, install only apps that you really need. just keep a backup of your not so often used apps and install only when you need them
If you think about it, everything i wrote above contradicts with the original concept of Android.
But that's life, sometimes you have to trade something in order to achieve another.
Our phone was baked as Gingerbread, now we want to make it taste like Jellybean.
We have all the ingredients, but we don't have a jelly bean pan to make the candy molds.
So we improvise, we work around, we do some shortcuts, we make alternatives, certainly it will cost something.
egagah said:
when you just flashed the battery will definitely be shorter. Let it recharge for a few cycles before determining whether its good or bad battery life. Keep in mind however that even at full potential, the battery will not last for more than 2 days even at light usage.
if battery life is more important to you compared to "the newest OS" and whatever extra features it brings with it, then I highly recommend installing acro's CM9 RC2 (yes it is ICS) as the 2.x.x kernel is far better at battery life than 3.x.x (i'm currently testing it and I can already feel the difference! I believe I can reach 2.5 days at modest usage but I will have to update you on that after my first few discharge cycle for battery to reach potential after flashing new rom). I do, however notice a few annoyances with RC2 (not sure if its really the ROM, or the custom kernel i'm using, or Nova Launcher is to be blamed), so if it continues to bug me I may just switch back out to latest ICS =p.
If keeping with the latest JB is important for u, best thing you could do is download a custom kernel for it that supports UV(undervolting), then get IncrediControl and tune down your UV based on some voltage tables you can find in FAQ. This alone won't bring you a HUGE improvement in battery life but its definitely an observable difference. On top of UV, try to UC(underclock) your CPU to 1GHz. Most daily functions, apps and games (depending on how intensive it is) will work perfectly smooth even at 1GHz. IMO, the most important point of UCing is you will notice a very significant difference in the heat of your battery (ie backcover of your phone). Heat is generally bad for the battery (shorter life + faster draining) so UC is definitely a good thing to do =). Of course, on top of all those, get greenify and wakelock detector(WLD) from market to control your not-so-frequently-used apps. Use WLD to track down what is keeping your phone awake (hence drain more battery) and use greenify to hibernate all the not-so-frequently-used apps you have (example of things you DON'T want to greenify: whatsapp and gmail as you don't want to kill these 2 programs when you lock your screen. You want to continue receiving whatsapp messages and gmail when you locked your screen right? XD! Examples of things you SHOULD greenify: games, music player. Maybe some of the games or other apps may keep a background service active, secretly using your battery even though the last time you used it was 2 days ago!)
Finally, if your wonder is about 1-1.5 years old, chances are your battery is already bloated (perhaps you can feel your battery through the backcover of your phone even!) A bloated battery is a dangerous and short-capacity battery. Even with the best rom you may only push through a day from 100-0%. If your battery still looks fine but your phone is nearing its birthday, go ahead and do some online shopping (ebay or local equivalent, like malaysia we have Lelong.com.my) and get a battery for your phone. Its usually much cheaper than buying from telephone shops.
EDIT: Adding on to all of that, choosing a good governor+i/o scheduler combo is important as well. If our phone is similar with the S+, smartassv2+sio(i've used this, its quite smooth and battery is good) OR OnDemand+noop is thought to be very good in terms of battery life and responsiveness. Lulzactive is also very good but its not so easy to tune it so i usually would stay away from it. Do bear in mind that although the former 2 combo is good, it still highly depends on how you use your phone so there will not be a universally best governor+io combo. Both of those suggested by me are supposingly best in responsiveness as well as deepsleep battery conserving (only if the assumption that our roms work the same as the roms tested in S+, which MAY NOT be true).
TL;DR? try smartassv2+sio (u may change this using IncrediControl, get from playstore). Then if you are not satisfied with your current performance/battery life, you may continue experimenting by changing governor and i/o scheduler one at a time. If you are doing the testing, make sure to have some way to record your tests if not you will 100% be deceived by placebo!(with actual numbers you will clearly see whether your feeling is placebo or if there really is an improvement)
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thanks a lot. that's very helpful for me..
klacenas said:
this reaction is typical if your coming from a stock or at least cm9.
there has been a lot of arguments about battery life of cm10 and above.
in my opinion, there really is a difference, i mean cm10+ drains battery faster.
and the reason being is of course the features there is in cm10++.
if you're after battery life, stay with stock or cm9 (for now).
but if you feel like your in with cm10+ and you don't want to go back like me, then may want to try these tricks:
1) using Titanium Backup, freeze the apps that you don't really use.
- in my phone i froze pico tts, voice search, talk back, etc. (i even froze google search )
2) i use an app called "autostarts", it can disable auto starting of app including those of the system.
- in my phone, i disabled google maps in every activity. ex. after startup, connectivity changed, wifi connected, widget updating
3) disable system settings which also contribute to battery draining.
- disable location service when your not using it
- disable automatic backup/restore
- disable haptic feedback
- disable autosync
- disable the top battery drainers when not in use (wifi, mobile data, gps, bluetooth)
- and many more just explore
4) do not use so many widgets (my home screen has 0 widget)
5) do not use live wallpaper
6) charge only using the original charger, not from other phone/brand, not from a usb port
- the best way to charge is to avoid using the phone until it's fully charged
7) finally, install only apps that you really need. just keep a backup of your not so often used apps and install only when you need them
If you think about it, everything i wrote above contradicts with the original concept of Android.
But that's life, sometimes you have to trade something in order to achieve another.
Our phone was baked as Gingerbread, now we want to make it taste like Jellybean.
We have all the ingredients, but we don't have a jelly bean pan to make the candy molds.
So we improvise, we work around, we do some shortcuts, we make alternatives, certainly it will cost something.
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yups...nice suggestion... thanks very much...:good::good::good:
Lim Wee Huat said:
Backup your apps, factory reset your phone. If battery drain problem persists, install Greenify or deep Sleep battery saver from Google Play to better manage battery resources.
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THANKS...
oribunokiyuusou said:
I'm having some seeeeerious battery issues with alpha3. With just 15 minutes screen usage in a day, battery settings says my screen used up more than 20% of the battery! This just for consulting the time and the weather.
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me too.... more than 20%, whereas my battery is in sleep screen and in the lowest brightness
Me too
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smeone here is right about cm9 rc2 i just flashed it and used a while.. battery seems to be 2x longer than 4.4 kitkat
here is there link
http://mygalaxywonder.blogspot.sg/2012/09/cyanogenmod-9-cm9-alpha-build-8-for.html
Magpir said:
smeone here is right about cm9 rc2 i just flashed it and used a while.. battery seems to be 2x longer than 4.4 kitkat
here is there link
http://mygalaxywonder.blogspot.sg/2012/09/cyanogenmod-9-cm9-alpha-build-8-for.html
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No....no....no....
That link will redirect you to a website that has kanged Arco's hard work and NOT given due credit....
Here is the correct, original link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576874
........right here on XDA...
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
Hi I was told that after you root your phone the battery will improve tremendously but u must do it manually. Any tips, or tricks I should do to improve my battery life and not ruin the phone?
ksmoove2 said:
Hi I was told that after you root your phone the battery will improve tremendously but u must do it manually. Any tips, or tricks I should do to improve my battery life and not ruin the phone?
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Download Greenify from the Google Play Store.
Rooting won't change anything as far as battery useage, and Greenify is a good simple option. Another is to go through your settings... set display brighness to auto - the screen is the biggest battery killer. Look for other options you don't use and uncheck them. Look at your battery stats and see what is using the most power. If it's an app running in the background, you may be able to kill the task depending on the app.
Remove all stock system apps that you do not use
Does enable this option help save battery life? as the process is suspended once user quits it. We all know some roguewares would keep themselves active even though not running forground and draining tons of battery.
Unless you are trying to debug an app do not enable this.
It's for developers trying to develop and debug their applications behavior.
MAYBE if u have rogue app installed it may help JUST for that app. But that's a BIG maybe. And then it could cause other apps to have to relaod constantly which will DEMOLISH battery AND performance due to higher CPU usage.
ashclepdia said:
Unless you are trying to debug an app do not enable this.
It's for developers trying to develop and debug their applications behavior.
MAYBE if u have rogue app installed it may help JUST for that app. But that's a BIG maybe. And then it could cause other apps to have to relaod constantly which will DEMOLISH battery AND performance due to higher CPU usage.
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I usually choose close all acitive applications upon finish using the phone, so I guess this option would do this automatically for me? I've found if I leave certain apps active my battery drains way faster.
jian1 said:
I usually choose close all acitive applications upon finish using the phone, so I guess this option would do this automatically for me? I've found if I leave certain apps active my battery drains way faster.
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The developer setting for kill all apps upon exit is NOT the same as clearing recents. It isn't doing the same thing.
Which apps by the way would you say are "staying active" ?
You can check to see if it is those apps specifically that are causing drain by using apps like Gsam battery monitor (my personal choice due to its user friendliness) or better battery stats app. In Gsam battery monitor you can open the app usage section to see exactly which apps used esactly how much battery/CPU wakelocks/time held awake/background CPU vs. foreground CPU/ etc....
I would say that MAYBE for a very specific type of usage that this option may help in battery life. But it without a doubt will eventual degrade performance, due to more CPU cylces needed to fully open an app from scratch vs having it cached in ram. The setting is for sure meant for developers trying to debug their applications behavior and not meant for users to get better battery or performance. If it WAS meant for those, it would have been enabled by default. It will surely mess up multitasking, which is what android is really all about. TRUE multi tasking with apps running in background. So that is what would really depend on your usage I would think.
ashclepdia said:
The developer setting for kill all apps upon exit is NOT the same as clearing recents. It isn't doing the same thing.
Which apps by the way would you say are "staying active" ?
You can check to see if it is those apps specifically that are causing drain by using apps like Gsam battery monitor (my personal choice due to its user friendliness) or better battery stats app. In Gsam battery monitor you can open the app usage section to see exactly which apps used esactly how much battery/CPU wakelocks/time held awake/background CPU vs. foreground CPU/ etc....
I would say that MAYBE for a very specific type of usage that this option may help in battery life. But it without a doubt will eventual degrade performance, due to more CPU cylces needed to fully open an app from scratch vs having it cached in ram. The setting is for sure meant for developers trying to debug their applications behavior and not meant for users to get better battery or performance. If it WAS meant for those, it would have been enabled by default. It will surely mess up multitasking, which is what android is really all about. TRUE multi tasking with apps running in background. So that is what would really depend on your usage I would think.
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I think this usage suit my usage very well, I use my phone briefly for calling, maybe very rarely webbrowsing, or sometimes wechat, so I want an app to stop completely once I finished using it since I probably won't open it again in 3,4 days.... I am not those smartphone addicts that's constantly playing their devices.
I only use webbrowser when I was outside and need to lookup an address... no, I don't even use facebook.
jian1 said:
I think this usage suit my usage very well, I use my phone briefly for calling, maybe very rarely webbrowsing, or sometimes wechat, so I want an app to stop completely once I finished using it since I probably won't open it again in 3,4 days.... I am not those smartphone addicts that's constantly playing their devices.
I only use webbrowser when I was outside and need to lookup an address... no, I don't even use facebook.
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Use Greenify to stop them automatically
.