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I know there are many apps that track battery/CPU usage.
Has anyone being able to accurately monitor these activity to determine what is really sucking the juice.
I need suggestions.... android OS 40% is no good to me I need to know which part of the OS is really sucking the juice etc, etc.
Thanks
Tungsten c said:
Guys
I know there are many apps that track battery/CPU usage.
Has anyone being able to accurately monitor these activity to determine what is really sucking the juice.
I need suggestions.... android OS 40% is no good to me I need to know which part of the OS is really sucking the juice etc, etc.
Thanks
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GSam battery monitor will break down what in the Android OS is actually running.
link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm.pro&hl=en
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I wanna receive better battery stats since I'm only getting 1-2 ost ,and I read that greenify is recommended ,well is it useful ??
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It keeps apps from waking the device and running unnecessarily in the background. I use it for Maps so it isn't eating up resources and draining my battery. Technically you should see better battery life if you hibernate the right apps with Greenify.
t1.8matt said:
It keeps apps from waking the device and running unnecessarily in the background. I use it for Maps so it isn't eating up resources and draining my battery. Technically you should see better battery life if you hibernate the right apps with Greenify.
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I know to hibernate maps/GPS but do you have any apps I should also hibernate
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t1.8matt said:
It keeps apps from waking the device and running unnecessarily in the background. I use it for Maps so it isn't eating up resources and draining my battery. Technically you should see better battery life if you hibernate the right apps with Greenify.
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I toggle the location services in the settings when I am at a familiar place. Saves a LOT of battery.
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used it but now choosing to use 2x battery
can't really say it's better or not but from my view 2x battery have better options like screen filters and such
but like all batteries (obviously) depends relatively on usage
powerkid39 said:
used it but now choosing to use 2x battery
can't really say it's better or not but from my view 2x battery have better options like screen filters and such
but like all batteries (obviously) depends relatively on usage
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You're comparing apples to oranges there. Those two apps don't even remotely do the same thing. Greenify's sole function is to shut down those pesky apps that think they deserve to run services in memory when they really aren't needed. Many apps/games do this. It's gotten to the point of stupid and, imho, is the fatal flaw in Android. They need to implement something to end this behavior.
Say you install ten games and each one is coded to run a service in the background (either to collect data about you or just because they can). Now your phone is sluggish and runs like crap because you no longer have enough memory left over for your phone to cache previously opened apps. So now when you open an app, it has to load from scratch. And now when you open an app, android has to knock out one of those services to make enough room to load that app. But guess what, that service is coded to auto reload itself and to make room for itself, so it must knock out a different service to make room for itself. Now that service that just got knocked out wants to reload but has to knock out another one... and the cycle goes on and on. Services that aren't needed reloading and Android kicking the others out of memory in an endless battle for memory.
Now this scenario only happens in low memory situations, but it really doesn't take that many needless apps running services in the background to put the Galaxy Nexus in this situation.
This is why you see so many Android phones that just run like garbage even when they have a good processor and memory. And this is one of many reasons for crappy battery life.
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Android experts all say task killers are unnecessary (except to kill a misbehaving app) because the android OS is designed to use all the available memory and it costs as much battery power to maintain a memory containing nothing as memory containing something. So emptying memory by killing an app just causes android to immediately load something else (or the same app) back into memory.
My question therefore has to do with apps like Greenify, which "hibernate" apps till they are actively called. Is hibernation just another name for removing apps from memory and therefore as counter productive as task killers? I can see the subtle differences but they seem minor compared to the similarities.
What do the experts who know android say? I don't know enough to really know.
Any studies to show an advantage (battery, etc.) in using an app like Greenify vs not?
Thank you.
Jeff
For me, I tried all of those battery saver app, none of them actually significant save battery, plus they use up some of your ram. I read somewhere says that android itself can handle battery save plus manage apps in it memory just fine.
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Task Killers use extra CPU cycles and can lead to loss of battery life.
I'm not sure about hibernation but I think it just prevents apps from being started automatically when the device is powered on and therefore saves battery and CPU.
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Anderson2 said:
Android experts all say task killers are unnecessary (except to kill a misbehaving app) because the android OS is designed to use all the available memory and it costs as much battery power to maintain a memory containing nothing as memory containing something. So emptying memory by killing an app just causes android to immediately load something else (or the same app) back into memory.
My question therefore has to do with apps like Greenify, which "hibernate" apps till they are actively called. Is hibernation just another name for removing apps from memory and therefore as counter productive as task killers? I can see the subtle differences but they seem minor compared to the similarities.
What do the experts who know android say? I don't know enough to really know.
Any studies to show an advantage (battery, etc.) in using an app like Greenify vs not?
Thank you.
Jeff
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I have to agree with task killers not really being necessary, especially with newer devices, for the most part. I've had and used ATK for years now and use it on occasion but by no means do I use it regularly. The only app I use that ever misbehaves is Google Voice, while deleting a bunch of texts it will on occasion hang up and need to be killed. The two scenarios I use it regularly is before playing "some" games and usually before using VLC before watching a video. When using VLC I will often pause, skip, rewind, fast forward and on occasion use slow motion to further investigate any milk shake, if it's looks to be worth my time. In those two scenarios I believe it does make a difference. Other than that I don't use ATK and it's not needed.
As for Greenify, I've been using it since it was first released and I won't hesitate to admit to being a big fan. You don't want to use it for everything. Any widgets that need to update or apps you want to get notifications from I would not hibernate, even though it is supposed to work with some notifications I personally have never tried it. Having said that I have a ton of apps that I do hibernate with Greenify. System and user apps. And if I remember right I believe the auto-hibernate works at some point in time after your screen has shut off. If I'm wrong someone please correct me! I also have to say that using Greenify is part of the reason I routinely see 1-2% battery use during 9-10 hrs of standby and I have Never had a problem with wakelocks. I think it is unrealistic to attribute good battery life to any one specific configuration setting or app, it's going to be a combination of multiple things. And I think Greenify is part of the puzzle along with wifi use, wifi configuration, LTE use, display brightness, sync frequency, location settings and so on. My N7 is not a good example because it gets used very hard almost everyday and I still typically see 5-7+ hrs of screen on time and as high as 9 but rarely. My N5 also typically between 5-7 hrs sot, often as high as 9 and once saw 11 hrs of screen on time. And... I actually have screenshots. I would say give Greenify a try, used properly you will see a benefit. For what it's not worth, just my two cents!
Thank you. I've also used Greenify for a long time but don't know enough to really evaluate its effectiveness. I have not however dared to use it for system apps because of the warnings.
Which system apps have you hibernated without problem?
Anderson2 said:
Thank you. I've also used Greenify for a long time but don't know enough to really evaluate its effectiveness. I have not however dared to use it for system apps because of the warnings.
Which system apps have you hibernated without problem?
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Google search, chrome, keep, news and weather (don't really use), youtube. Google play books, games, movies, music, Google+ and Hangouts I have disabled because I use other apps but those could very well be hibernated except for Google+ and Hangouts (notifications).
I missed currents, email, korean keyboard, google pinyin, iWinnIME, google play magazines which I have disabled also but any of those could be hibernated.
Thank you.
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No problem. I just realized I show google search in my list of apps I hibernate but I should mention that I don't use google now. If you do you probably want to leave google search alone if you want google now notifications.
That's fine. I don't use Google search, google plus, Hangouts, etc. Etc. Either but was afraid to disable them because of potential problems when the next system update comes. How do you disable them? Titanium b/U or something else?
(I'm rooted).
Does enable this option help save battery life? as the process is suspended once user quits it. We all know some roguewares would keep themselves active even though not running forground and draining tons of battery.
Unless you are trying to debug an app do not enable this.
It's for developers trying to develop and debug their applications behavior.
MAYBE if u have rogue app installed it may help JUST for that app. But that's a BIG maybe. And then it could cause other apps to have to relaod constantly which will DEMOLISH battery AND performance due to higher CPU usage.
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Unless you are trying to debug an app do not enable this.
It's for developers trying to develop and debug their applications behavior.
MAYBE if u have rogue app installed it may help JUST for that app. But that's a BIG maybe. And then it could cause other apps to have to relaod constantly which will DEMOLISH battery AND performance due to higher CPU usage.
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I usually choose close all acitive applications upon finish using the phone, so I guess this option would do this automatically for me? I've found if I leave certain apps active my battery drains way faster.
jian1 said:
I usually choose close all acitive applications upon finish using the phone, so I guess this option would do this automatically for me? I've found if I leave certain apps active my battery drains way faster.
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The developer setting for kill all apps upon exit is NOT the same as clearing recents. It isn't doing the same thing.
Which apps by the way would you say are "staying active" ?
You can check to see if it is those apps specifically that are causing drain by using apps like Gsam battery monitor (my personal choice due to its user friendliness) or better battery stats app. In Gsam battery monitor you can open the app usage section to see exactly which apps used esactly how much battery/CPU wakelocks/time held awake/background CPU vs. foreground CPU/ etc....
I would say that MAYBE for a very specific type of usage that this option may help in battery life. But it without a doubt will eventual degrade performance, due to more CPU cylces needed to fully open an app from scratch vs having it cached in ram. The setting is for sure meant for developers trying to debug their applications behavior and not meant for users to get better battery or performance. If it WAS meant for those, it would have been enabled by default. It will surely mess up multitasking, which is what android is really all about. TRUE multi tasking with apps running in background. So that is what would really depend on your usage I would think.
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The developer setting for kill all apps upon exit is NOT the same as clearing recents. It isn't doing the same thing.
Which apps by the way would you say are "staying active" ?
You can check to see if it is those apps specifically that are causing drain by using apps like Gsam battery monitor (my personal choice due to its user friendliness) or better battery stats app. In Gsam battery monitor you can open the app usage section to see exactly which apps used esactly how much battery/CPU wakelocks/time held awake/background CPU vs. foreground CPU/ etc....
I would say that MAYBE for a very specific type of usage that this option may help in battery life. But it without a doubt will eventual degrade performance, due to more CPU cylces needed to fully open an app from scratch vs having it cached in ram. The setting is for sure meant for developers trying to debug their applications behavior and not meant for users to get better battery or performance. If it WAS meant for those, it would have been enabled by default. It will surely mess up multitasking, which is what android is really all about. TRUE multi tasking with apps running in background. So that is what would really depend on your usage I would think.
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I think this usage suit my usage very well, I use my phone briefly for calling, maybe very rarely webbrowsing, or sometimes wechat, so I want an app to stop completely once I finished using it since I probably won't open it again in 3,4 days.... I am not those smartphone addicts that's constantly playing their devices.
I only use webbrowser when I was outside and need to lookup an address... no, I don't even use facebook.
jian1 said:
I think this usage suit my usage very well, I use my phone briefly for calling, maybe very rarely webbrowsing, or sometimes wechat, so I want an app to stop completely once I finished using it since I probably won't open it again in 3,4 days.... I am not those smartphone addicts that's constantly playing their devices.
I only use webbrowser when I was outside and need to lookup an address... no, I don't even use facebook.
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Use Greenify to stop them automatically
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As shown on attached image, my T705 can go standby for 3 days without screen on.
The moment I use for gaming aka Clash of Clans, it drop fast 3hrs 45min.
Any solution to reduce this drain?
My device info:
Screen set to 35% brightness
Rom: SelambA ROM v1.2.1
Kernel: SkyHigh TW Kernel R3_v1.9.1. Set to BETTER Battery Life
Try greenify. It will hibernate apps when you close it and will not open until you open it. Or it might be that when you play the game it runs at max performance maybe which caused the battery drain
Seems like since it lasts so long on stand by it is not just a matter of background processes.
People always say greenify like it's a magic word. I'm sure it helps some but I don't think that much, or Google would have built something like that into their kernel already right?
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Seems like since it lasts so long on stand by it is not just a matter of background processes.
People always say greenify like it's a magic word. I'm sure it helps some but I don't think that much, or Google would have built something like that into their kernel already right?
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Idk. Greenify works for me while no other battery saver doesnt. Standby lasts longer because it deep sleeps/kills some processes to save the battery while screen is off. He might have to many apps open or some sort. Andriod L may fix problems but samsung may mess it up because of touchwiz.
I used to use Greenify when I had my Xperia Z3, but I don't know if I should keep it on my 5T, and if it affects performance or not (ex. reopening apps draining more battery or apps taking more time to open).
I have the 8 GB model, so I don't have any RAM problem.
Lately I've decided to try not using any battery "optimizer". I'm currently on OOS B2 with Flash Kernel 3.0..1 and I can easily get nearly two days if battery life with a "normal" use with around 4hrs of screen on time and 1~1.5% per hour while on idle overnight.
So, I think that overall that's not worth messing with Greenify. IMHO
About performances, in theory having to relaunch apps that have been terminated by Greenify would have some inpact on that. Guess that would be quite low, being the device so fast!
My advice would be see how it goes as it is and then try installing Greenify and see if you notice any improvement.
My two cents.
M!
maddler said:
Lately I've decided to try not using any battery "optimizer". I'm currently on OOS B2 with Flash Kernel 3.0..1 and I can easily get nearly two days if battery life with a "normal" use with around 4hrs of screen on time and 1~1.5% per hour while on idle overnight.
So, I think that overall that's not worth messing with Greenify. IMHO
About performances, in theory having to relaunch apps that have been terminated by Greenify would have some inpact on that. Guess that would be quite low, being the device so fast!
My advice would be see how it goes as it is and then try installing Greenify and see if you notice any improvement.
My two cents.
M!
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Greenify only hibernate apps, not terminate.
I use Greenify for Facebook and Messenger as they drain a lot of power. I would simply check your battery stats if there are apps that use a lot of power without active usage. If so, Greenify then. If not, it probably doesn't make a huge difference.
Greenify is no matter what, a must download app for me.. Until V30+ and OP5T.. Didn't need it anymore, because I didn't notice a different between installed it and not..
This is an easy one. No.
Deep sleep and idle battery drain seem pretty good on the OP5T so far, I wouldn't bother.
I still use it, nothing related to performance but because I personally do not need some of my apps to run in background. I only use them when I open them so I can save a bit of battery by keeping them hibernated until the next use.
Syzew said:
I used to use Greenify when I had my Xperia Z3, but I don't know if I should keep it on my 5T, and if it affects performance or not (ex. reopening apps draining more battery or apps taking more time to open).
I have the 8 GB model, so I don't have any RAM problem.
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As long as I have good cell signal, I can routinely get 8hrs of SoT with the stock One plus kernel from OpenBeta2. I do use Greenify for the social media apps though. Greenify will basically tell you if it will help or not by displaying apps that it thinks will benefit from hibernating. Although, if you aren't rooted, it basically isn't worth installing.
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As long as I have good cell signal, I can routinely get 8hrs of SoT with the stock One plus kernel from OpenBeta2. I do use Greenify for the social media apps though. Greenify will basically tell you if it will help or not by displaying apps that it thinks will benefit from hibernating. Although, if you aren't rooted, it basically isn't worth installing.
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I'm just asking because I use Amplify, Greenify and Android's built-in battery saver and Android OS still drains A LOT, and by a lot I mean that I can get 3 hours SoT with amoled themes on.
Syzew said:
I'm just asking because I use Amplify, Greenify and Android's built-in battery saver and Android OS still drains A LOT, and by a lot I mean that I can get 3 hours SoT with amoled themes on.
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Wait, you get that on the 5T? If so, return it.
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Wait, you get that on the 5T? If so, return it.
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I reinstalled the whole rom, seems like its fixed now, I probably messed something up with the kernel.
Syzew said:
I reinstalled the whole rom, seems like its fixed now, I probably messed something up with the kernel.
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Glad to hear it ?