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Bad battery life when using custom watch face.

To start, I'll say I was moderately impressed with the moto 360 battery life when I got it a couple weeks ago based on all the poor things I had heard about it. My issue however is that it seems like if I use any watch face other than the stock ones that come installed already, the battery struggles to last more than 3 hours. When using something like minimal or classic (pre installed faces) I have no trouble getting 18 hours and having a bit to spare.
Could an element like having a weather display be whats hurting it so bad? I think most of the faces I tried show weather, but only update every hour or two hours. I can not imagine one or two updates eating up 80% of the battery.

Some of depends on what watch face you're using. Some show way more information than your standard stock watch faces so that uses up way more battery doing that. Could also be some are badly made and so therefore use more battery. What faces are you using?

yeah.. i agreed... custom watch face eats more battery.. even using simple custom that not showing weather information.. i can feel the different when using the one came preinstalled.

It shouldn't work like this way. I will buy a Moto 360 because of the feature of changing watch face.

Here are two of the watch faces I've been using and getting very poor battery life with: (both with ambient mode off)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.smartwatchface.watch.face.ranger.military
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stmp.minimalface
I'm currently using The Hundreds face and not sure how it will hold up. This is my first day with it. Trying with Ambient mode on.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wearable.android.breel.com.thehundreds
In comparison however I have used the next few with very good battery results. I'm thinking the weather has something to do with it, because the ones that last all day do not show weather
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.smartwatchface.speeds.pro.watch.face
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atektura.dotswatchface

It seems like it is the faces that you are using. Rather than buying separate face apps, I use a single app called "Watch Faces for Android Wear" that has a gallery of thousands of free faces that you can download. I have never noticed a significant impact on battery life with any of the faces that I have tried. I usually get a good 18-20 hours with my watch and these faces.

I use many watch faces via Watchmaker app and haven't found any battery differences. My watch seems to consume about 3.5% of battery per hour.

For anyone that cares, I used "The Hundreds" watch face today. set the background to "random" and had ambient mode on all day. Got about 10 hours and it was at 20% when I stuck it back on the charger. This is okay for me on a weekend, but M-F when I work 12-15 hours a day I need it to last ALL day. Will probably use stock faces during the week and custom on the weekend unless I can find one I like that doesn't chew through battery like my dog eats those damn greenies.

you can use watchmaker and set the max fps to 15 , works good and doesn't take much battery

You mentioned that the "Ranger" watch face that you are using uses a lot of battery life. I have had the opposite experience with Ranger. I use it daily and get very good battery life with it. One thing I have noticed though and it applies to most, if not all watch faces is that battery life is dramatically impacted by the use of "ambient mode". Use of ambient mode guarantees me less than 8 hours of battery life with just about any watch face.
Also, if you don't mind having to push the side button on your watch to see the time, you can set it to theater mode and get about two days use.
David

Dave, do you have the weather enabled also on Ranger?

I've used ranger, without ambient and turned off tilt feature, and I get at least a full day of battery life. With the mentioned features on, I have to charge at least twice a day. With the tilt feature on, I noticed just walking around the screen would turn on all the time. Maybe, those having battery issues, should try turning off the tilt feature then report back about any battery issues. Currently, I use Odyssey and occasionally I can get a day and a half before needing a charge.

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Dave, do you have the weather enabled also on Ranger?
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Yes.
David

I'm currently using a custom watch face on Watchmaker. It shows moon phases, time, date, temperature, what kind of weather it is, and battery life for both watch and phone. My watch has been off the charger since about 6:20 this morning, and i'm at 75%. I've only used 15% of my battery in just under 12 hours. What are you people doing to make your watches die so quickly? Although, I do have wrist turn turned off and ambient mode turned off. I work on a sales floor and a register so wrist turn gets annoying, lol.

matrix0886 said:
I'm currently using a custom watch face on Watchmaker. It shows moon phases, time, date, temperature, what kind of weather it is, and battery life for both watch and phone. My watch has been off the charger since about 6:20 this morning, and i'm at 75%. I've only used 15% of my battery in just under 12 hours. What are you people doing to make your watches die so quickly? Although, I do have wrist turn turned off and ambient mode turned off. I work on a sales floor and a register so wrist turn gets annoying, lol.
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How often are you checking your watch? Messing with notifications from your phone?

Usually check my watch about 3 times every hour (if anything important comes through, my watch will vibrate so there's really no use in constantly turning it on to check for notifications). My girlfriend and I text a lot so i'm constantly getting text notifications. I get weather updates (2 cards, one for home, one for work) as well as traffic updates. Even when I traveled earlier this week and had maps going (2hr round trip), I still had great battery life. Finished off a day with 30% battery (the navigation really took a toll but I made it through about 18ish hours up to that point.). Google fit is also constantly running and I walk an average of 10k-13k steps a day so it's tracking a lot.
My phone battery, though.....wow, lol. Talk about piss poor when the watch is connected. I have to keep it in battery saver mode so it'll last me

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I've used ranger, without ambient and turned off tilt feature, and I get at least a full day of battery life. With the mentioned features on, I have to charge at least twice a day. With the tilt feature on, I noticed just walking around the screen would turn on all the time. Maybe, those having battery issues, should try turning off the tilt feature then report back about any battery issues. Currently, I use Odyssey and occasionally I can get a day and a half before needing a charge.
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As much as I like the Ranger face, I will not use it if the only way for a full days battery life is turning off the tilt feature. With ambient AND tilt off, we are just getting further from a watch, and closer to a gimped phone.

MrStig91 said:
As much as I like the Ranger face, I will not use it if the only way for a full days battery life is turning off the tilt feature. With ambient AND tilt off, we are just getting further from a watch, and closer to a gimped phone.
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Imho, if I don't need to look at it, then there is no need for the screen to be on. I work in the car audio install business so I'm constantly moving, therefore I turn off tilt. And to honestly compare the moto to a phone, that's just ridiculous. It's not even close to a phone. It's just a fully customizable watch that allows you to see most notifications from your phone. In my line of work, I don't have time to constantly reach in my pocket to check my phone. So to each his own. I'm getting a day or more out of the battery. I'm very happy with the way it performs. No complaints. I'm just saying, it's a way to increase battery life if you need it.

I have also noticed better battery life using stock watch faces. I use Facer and paid for the "premium" watch faces, which often have date, weather and battery level on the face (some even have the digital time too). I've been switching back and forth between the Motorola custom watch face and I get much better battery life with it. Today while using the stock custom watch face I was left at 55% battery after nearly 15 hours of use. I keep the display at level 1, turn to wake on, ambient mode off, I get weather updates regularly, all texts and some emails; every notification is set to vibrate as well.
When using a Facer watch face my watch will often die by the time I get home. Sometimes it'll die sooner depending on how much I used it that day, but all in all the differences in battery life is substantial between the different watch faces.
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I use FaceMaker and have good battery life. Took it off the charger at 9 AM and now at 5:26, it's showing 68% battery\17 hrs left.

Huawei Watch Battery life Thread

The battery life on the watch seems to be much better than my Urbane so far. I used it all day yesterday and I still had at least another day of use left. I still charged jt last night but I might try to see how long it will last before it dies.
Here it is with ambient mlde always on, WiFi on, and brightness set at 4.
Post you battery life below:

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The battery life on the watch seems to be much better than my Urbane so far. I used it all day yesterday and I still had at least another day of use left. I still charged jt last night but I might try to see how long it will last before it dies.
Here it is with ambient mlde always on, WiFi on, and brightness set at 4.
Post you battery life below:
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WOW! Better than the urbane? I had the urbane, and was satisfied with batt life. My one concern with the huawei was the smaller batt.

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WOW! Better than the urbane? I had the urbane, and was satisfied with batt life. My one concern with the huawei was the smaller batt.
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The above should speak for itself. My Urbane was good but it was inconsistent some day I would end with 30% others I would have 60% doing this exact same thing. I'm only really on my full second day now but it still seems better overall. I've also noticed its a little faster which it shouldn't be because they are identical hardware wise. I'll report back later this week after I use it at school. I usually really 3-6 miles depending on the day which could kill the battery faster since it's counting my steps. Yesterday I only walked 2 miles which isn't a lot so we will see.

Mine doesn't make it through the day
I've had it 2 1/2 days, maybe it will get better. But it's dead by late evening - maybe 8p, with an 8a start.

Here's today's:
I'm using the same set up as I listed in the OP. Let's see how it does tomorrow now

I used it on the first day full charge. With everything on except google fit and brightness at level 4. I was getting 2.81% decrease/hr. I measured from 7 am to 4 pm; a 9 hr day with at least 30 emails and other notifications from tapatalk and such. 1 phone call and a few texts in that 9hr period. However today in my 2 hr venture to the grocery store, I used up about 5.41%/hr. And I did change up the watchface to a sweeping seconds one. That was the only diff to account for the increased battery. BUT even with that, the battery meter still said it would last another 2 days.
Like many others have said, this is my second full day with it. I assume it will just get stable and get an accurate reading in another day or so.

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I used it on the first day full charge. With everything on except google fit and brightness at level 4. I was getting 2.81% decrease/hr. I measured from 7 am to 4 pm; a 9 hr day with at least 30 emails and other notifications from tapatalk and such. 1 phone call and a few texts in that 9hr period. However today in my 2 hr venture to the grocery store, I used up about 5.41%/hr. And I did change up the watchface to a sweeping seconds one. That was the only diff to account for the increased battery. BUT even with that, the battery meter still said it would last another 2 days.
Like many others have said, this is my second full day with it. I assume it will just get stable and get an accurate reading in another day or so.
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Yeah it seems to get good better life from my initial impressions. I would say with heavier usage it would get 1.25-1.5days but that depends on how you use it.

So far mixed review on battery life. Yesterday, it didn't last the whole day. But I think the wifi might have been on when I wasn't near a wifi. Did a 90 minute bike ride today and was connected to my phone vis RunGPS application which should have been using the watch HRM. Went from 95% to 45% in those 90 minutes. Don't know the impact, but when I got back, found the HR was stuck at 125 for half the ride, and 72 for the other half of the ride. Just frozen. I charged it fully at 12:00, now at almost 11PM, it has 73% remaining. I have the display set with "always on" turned off.

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So far mixed review on battery life. Yesterday, it didn't last the whole day. But I think the wifi might have been on when I wasn't near a wifi. Did a 90 minute bike ride today and was connected to my phone vis RunGPS application which should have been using the watch HRM. Went from 95% to 45% in those 90 minutes. Don't know the impact, but when I got back, found the HR was stuck at 125 for half the ride, and 72 for the other half of the ride. Just frozen. I charged it fully at 12:00, now at almost 11PM, it has 73% remaining. I have the display set with "always on" turned off.
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I never use the HRM because I know it kills the battery based on experience with AW and my old Samsung Gear Fit. I'm not surprised that it died that fast because its not made to primarily be a fitness watch despite having a HRM and fitness apps. I know that sounds dumb but a fitbit would do a better job because that's is sole purpose. I don't expect the HRM to be accurate on any smart watch; I tested mine yesterday at the gym while on the treadmill. The treadmill say my HR was 165 while the watch said it was 100 so there's a big difference and I trust the treadmill over the watch in this case. I have my display always on still and get good battery life. I don't expect the watch to last forever if I'm cranking the brightness and using the HRM. I'm not defending the watch by any means but rather stating that no AW/smart watch would handke this kind of thing well yet. I enjoy the look of Huawei and convenience it provides with alerts, notes etc... but I'm glad it lasts a day for my type of usage. I wonder if Marshmallow will improve the battery life at all.

Here's today's battery life. I knocked the watch of my night stand last night so I had to finish charging it when I got campus in case anyone was wondering about the activity tracking and watch on time difference from today. Nevertheless here's today's battery stats. Overall the battery life wasn't impacted that much by walking ~12k steps and over 5 miles which is surprising. I use the standard blue watch face it comes with because it's my favorite one so far and ambient mlde is always on as mentioned above.

I forgot to attach there picture :/

Good battery backup for a smartwatch

Had it fully charged when I went to bed last night, it was down to 30% when I got up this morning. I have no idea why it went down so fast. I put it in theater mode when I go to bed. I slept through the alarms, I'm wondering if maybe they were going off repeatedly and wore the battery down. -cjr-
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Here's today's battery life. I knocked the watch of my night stand last night so I had to finish charging it when I got campus in case anyone was wondering about the activity tracking and watch on time difference from today. Nevertheless here's today's battery stats. Overall the battery life wasn't impacted that much by walking ~12k steps and over 5 miles which is surprising. I use the standard blue watch face it comes with because it's my favorite one so far and ambient mlde is always on as mentioned above.
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Had it fully charged when I went to bed last night, it was down to 30% when I got up this morning. I have no idea why it went down so fast. I put it in theater mode when I go to bed. I slept through the alarms, I'm wondering if maybe they were going off repeatedly and wore the battery down. -cjr-
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I'd imagine if your anything like me and ignore your alarm for an hour because I'm a heavy sleeper then the vibration motor would certainly bring it down fast. I think that's really odd to drain that much but if it's consistently doing that I would be concerned.

Yeah, I tried using Sports Gear Tracker today to track my workout... didn't work eiter. I thought it was tracking and I checked a few times. The HR appeared frozen again, but the timer was running. But, when I got home, it has no record of the workout. Don't know what happened. Google fit does have the workout. But the Heart rate record is just flat. I'm going to try a hard reset and see if that fixes the Heart rate problem. Would sure like to know if anyone else is having any success with HRM, I'm thinking at this point to send it back as defective and try a different one. Seems odd that it would perform that badly. -cjr-

I'm still not getting through the day - 12 hours tops before it dies. Am wondering about settings - I have everything set as it came out of the box: haven't touched WiFi, so assume it's on; have ambient display always on.; default brightness setting of 4.
I'm not using the HRM at all, and not even really checking the watch constantly.
Any suggestions? (thanks in advance)

I have wifi off. I had it on and I think it really drained the battery.. try turning it off..

Urbane definitely had better batt life. While the huawei is acceptable, its definitely not as good, which I did expect with the battery being 25% smaller.

Thanks, will give that a try.

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Urbane definitely had better batt life. While the huawei is acceptable, its definitely not as good, which I did expect with the battery being 25% smaller.
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I'm having the opposite experience here. My Urbane was very inconsistent with battery life but when it had a good day it was around what the Huawei is. Its dependent on your usage but for me its great.

sudden battery life swan dive on both of my newer hwatches

i have both a silver and black hwatch, neither of which are more than a few months old. ive had a hwatch using the same mostly black watch face and the same brightness and tilt to wake settings since 11/2015 so im pretty familiar with my battery. normally at the end of a day im at 40% or so, 25% if its been a really long 18-20h day. plenty of battery to never worry about having to get it to a charger mid-day, even if i got out after my 12h shift at work. last wed i was wearing my black watch and leaving said 12h shift and noticed my face was dark, and my battery saver was on because i was only at 9%. didnt think much of it, every now and then i have a hiccup and a simple power cycle and full charge fixes it. but the next day my silver one also was struggling to make it through a non-work day. i hadnt made any recent changes or installed any new apps. the fairly terrible wear battery stats listed watch idle highest at around 7-8%, followed by screen, daily tracking and up at 1-3% each. i dont use the daily tracking app, but there doesnt appear to be a way to disable it, so no new pattern changes. my pixel did upgrade to oreo on 8/21, but i had no issues that day or the next. figured a factory reset may be in order, so i reset the black hwatch but the same problems persist. im not usually getting quite down to battery saver by the end of the day, but i definitely need to put it on the charger as soon as i get home and today my silver watch did run all the way down kind of out of nowhere, since it didnt come off the charger until around 10am and was at 15% by 10-1015pm. any thoughts?

They are simply useless watches!
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i have both a silver and black hwatch, neither of which are more than a few months old. ive had a hwatch using the same mostly black watch face and the same brightness and tilt to wake settings since 11/2015 so im pretty familiar with my battery. normally at the end of a day im at 40% or so, 25% if its been a really long 18-20h day. plenty of battery to never worry about having to get it to a charger mid-day, even if i got out after my 12h shift at work. last wed i was wearing my black watch and leaving said 12h shift and noticed my face was dark, and my battery saver was on because i was only at 9%. didnt think much of it, every now and then i have a hiccup and a simple power cycle and full charge fixes it. but the next day my silver one also was struggling to make it through a non-work day. i hadnt made any recent changes or installed any new apps. the fairly terrible wear battery stats listed watch idle highest at around 7-8%, followed by screen, daily tracking and up at 1-3% each. i dont use the daily tracking app, but there doesnt appear to be a way to disable it, so no new pattern changes. my pixel did upgrade to oreo on 8/21, but i had no issues that day or the next. figured a factory reset may be in order, so i reset the black hwatch but the same problems persist. im not usually getting quite down to battery saver by the end of the day, but i definitely need to put it on the charger as soon as i get home and today my silver watch did run all the way down kind of out of nowhere, since it didnt come off the charger until around 10am and was at 15% by 10-1015pm. any thoughts?
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Unfortunately my new H W2 Classic (bought only 20 days ago) battery life is about 4-5 hours when worn on hand, ADO ON, WiFI OFF, Brightness 3, Wrist Gestures OFF, Tilt to Display is ON.
At these same settings when i place the watch on my table, it will last for less than 6 hours and I wake up to a watch running on fumes!
I am returning it as I read so many people have done so with defective batteries, MOST certainly.
Good luck finding someone willing to share any real useful info, AS no one seems to know what the heck is happening!
Personally, I think these watches are CHEAPLY BUILT.
MY SMASUNG GEAR S3 IS NOT MUCH BETTER EITHER, though it is supposed to be KOREAN!!!
I am really disappointed with these HUGE names who fail to make a simple watch! TAKE A LESSON FROM APPLE! Limited functionality but even their Model 2 (which I have) does more than these watches and with real battery life that lasts at least a day!
Now, we wait for Apple to make their watches run on Android!
One thing to note, as I am writing this response I noticed the Power Usage on my watch increased 3% by Google Play Services and my battery dropped from 83% to 79% in about 3 minutes! Sure at this rate I will have no power in about an hour and a half! Could it be Google Play Services killing these watches?!

I've always had fantastic battery life on my original until the last few months

Update that improves battery life?

It appears that something has been updated to improve battery life. I got a full 7 days last time I charged my watch. At 6 1/2 days I was at 10% battery and I switched to battery save mode (I did not have charger with me). When I charged watch after 7 full days I was at 5% battery. I changed nothing in my normal routine or in my settings. I have wifi off and bluetooth on and connected to watch at all times. AOD is off. Still getting notifications, etc. It does not appear to be a fluke. I'm at 75% battery currently after 2 days and 4 hours.
I bought this watch when it came out and I was getting 4 - 5 days (less when actively using GPS). Usually it was closer to 4 days. The first charge I did which lasted 7 days was on 10/29 so if there was some kind of update it would have been probably 10/24 - 10/29.
Anyone else seeing battery life improvements lately?

I just got my watch yesterday did an up date and not changing anything I'm still at 93% after coming off the charger at 0615hrs. My S2 or S3 never managed that. Lol
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Is step tracker better or?

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Is step tracker better or?
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Step tracker and all the same fitness tracking that I had on before. Not sure what you mean by "step tracker better". Is this a setting or different app?

fliptwister said:
It appears that something has been updated to improve battery life. I got a full 7 days last time I charged my watch. At 6 1/2 days I was at 10% battery and I switched to battery save mode (I did not have charger with me). When I charged watch after 7 full days I was at 5% battery. I changed nothing in my normal routine or in my settings. I have wifi off and bluetooth on and connected to watch at all times. AOD is off. Still getting notifications, etc. It does not appear to be a fluke. I'm at 75% battery currently after 2 days and 4 hours.
I bought this watch when it came out and I was getting 4 - 5 days (less when actively using GPS). Usually it was closer to 4 days. The first charge I did which lasted 7 days was on 10/29 so if there was some kind of update it would have been probably 10/24 - 10/29.
Anyone else seeing battery life improvements lately?
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Well, it depends. To be able to compare one need to specify model (46mm(472mAh)/42mm(270mAh))(1.75:1 or 1:0.57).
I get roughly 3+ days (42mm) (AOD-no, BT + Wi-Fi(auto), light(2 -auto) and notifications)
That is close to your observation if your watch is a 46mm - that is.

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Step tracker and all the same fitness tracking that I had on before. Not sure what you mean by "step tracker better". Is this a setting or different app?
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There are problems with step counter and HR monitor... Take a look at US and EU Samsung forums. 90% of watches have these problems.

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There are problems with step counter and HR monitor... Take a look at US and EU Samsung forums. 90% of watches have these problems.
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My step counter and HR monitor are working great.
Just out of curiosity I went out to Samsung's US forum (Samsung Community>Get Help>Wearable Tech>Wearable Tech) and I'm not seeing a significant amount of posts about issues with the Galaxy Watch step counter or HR monitor. Are you referring to another forum? Please post link. Even if there were a lot of posts how did you determine 90% of watches have these problems?

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There are problems with step counter and HR monitor... Take a look at US and EU Samsung forums. 90% of watches have these problems.
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That's complete BS, here is no way you could know that. Maybe 90% of the people posting problems and that 90% is probably a tiny amount of the watches sold.

I only got my watch a couple of days ago but i can tell you that I am into my 3rd day with this watch and i am currently on 65% battery with the 46mm bluetooth only version.
My setting are...
AOD off
Wifi off
Bluetooth always connected 24/7
Heart rate monitor on request only
Screen brightness on 7
Very impressed with this so far after coming from the huawei watch original which had to be charged every single day.

pkylle said:
Well, it depends. To be able to compare one need to specify model (46mm(472mAh)/42mm(270mAh))(1.75:1 or 1:0.57).
I get roughly 3+ days (42mm) (AOD-no, BT + Wi-Fi(auto), light(2 -auto) and notifications)
That is close to your observation if your watch is a 46mm - that is.
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My watch is 46mm version. My last charge (the second in a row that has lasted 7+ hours) lasted 7 days 6 hours. This was without turning on battery saving mode. I was at 1% when I charged.
The battery time has improved significantly for me. Not sure what it is but I'm liking it. Display at 7 brightness, AOD off, Auto Low Brightness on, screen timeout 15 seconds, HR set at frequent, step tracker on, wifi off, BT always on, notifications from phone on.

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That's complete BS, here is no way you could know that. Maybe 90% of the people posting problems and that 90% is probably a tiny amount of the watches sold.
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I agree. By looking at posts on Samsung US forum I would say the percent of posts with problems relating to this is much lower than that and probably less than 20%.

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My watch is 46mm version. My last charge (the second in a row that has lasted 7+ hours) lasted 7 days 6 hours. This was without turning on battery saving mode. I was at 1% when I charged.
The battery time has improved significantly for me. Not sure what it is but I'm liking it. Display at 7 brightness, AOD off, Auto Low Brightness on, screen timeout 15 seconds, HR set at frequent, step tracker on, wifi off, BT always on, notifications from phone on.
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How do you turn Step tracker Off?
I Couldn't find any info or Setting...

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I agree. By looking at posts on Samsung US forum I would say the percent of posts with problems relating to this is much lower than that and probably less than 20%.
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Actually the longest threads are about these problems with thousands of comments already and no solution. I also returned my watch because of the hr sensor not working reliably. I guess a lot of people just don't use the always on hr, because this is how you see that it doesn't work properly. It gets stuck sometimes leaving gaps on your charts and stays stuck for quite some time if you don't manually release it by some workarounds.

Question Severe overnight battery drain

I've got myself a new P6P and basically since day one, every night or every other night it would lose something like 15 to 25%. This is over roughly an 8hours sleep.
Device is connected to WiFi and always on display is disabled.
Gram battery graphs look scary, like Oreo times scary.
Is anyone else experiencing anything similar, or is it just me?
Hibernation while screen off seems totally off at 27% of the time (should usually sit around 90% unless for example streaming or downloading stuff with screen off).
My previous P5 would do considerably better, with an almost flat graph in the same test conditions.
Thanks!

And the most frustrating about all this, is that in 2021 Google still can't provide us an easy way to figure out what's wrong.
Over several iterations they've promised we wouldn't have to deal with crap like this ever again (Doze, Doze on the go), but ultimately when it happens, users have no clue.
I'll have to install battery historian once more. I thought I was done with this crap.

P.s. I'm of course very interested to know what YOUR numbers look like in similar conditions. Thanks!

Hey,
I was having a similar issue on my P6Pro with high idle drain (about 1.8% to 2% per hour) using AccuBattery Pro to measure over the last week (got my device last Tuesday).
I just rooted last night so effectively did a fresh install on the November firmware. I turned off AOD, Digital Wellbeing and Lift to Wake as part of this.
I haven't really used root to prohibit anything I couldn't have done without root (yet) and last night used EXKM to track stats.
Over 7 hours I only lost 2% battery and had idle drain of 0.28% per hour which is much much better.
You've already said AOD is off but not sure about Digital Wellbeing. I'm not sure if the factory reset and setting up straight on November firmware helped the situation but might be worth a go?

I quite agree. Everytime I get a new device (have usually been from Google), I have to start off troubleshooting battery drain and installing other apps to do it.
Android 12 has light doze now, so after just a few minutes it will stop apps accessing the network, and force apps that need to get some data every few minutes or so, to all queue their requests for the next maintenance window, so this should very quickly after the screen is off, allow the phone CPU to enter deep sleep for most of the time, i.e. nothing is running in Android until the next maintanence slot.
What is likely happening is there is a wakelock stopping the deep sleep from happening, and Andriod remains running doing very little, keeping the CPU awake ticking over at 300MHz.
To test this theory install CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en_GB&gl=US Have a look at the stats, has the phone entered deepsleep and what is the percentage of deep sleep? Overnight the phone really should be able to get at least 80% deep sleep as no one is using it (I've seen 95% on tablets and my Pixel 2 XL overnight).
To run a quick test, reset the stats, and let the phone sit for 30 minutes or so without being used, then go back to app (will need to use Refresh to get the latest totals) and see what percentage you get of deep sleep.
If you find the phone is going into deep sleep okay and overnight is 80% or more of deep sleep, then that isn't the cause of your battery drain, and it is likely caused by either the modem flapping or constantly trying to register with a cell tower, or perhaps Wi-Fi. So your next test is airplane mode overnight.
My overnight losses are around 5% at the moment, I'm only on Wi-Fi overnight, the mobile network is off as I get next to no signal.

Mine dropped 20% in 8hrs over night, seems a bit excessive.

rav101 said:
Hey,
I was having a similar issue on my P6Pro with high idle drain (about 1.8% to 2% per hour) using AccuBattery Pro to measure over the last week (got my device last Tuesday).
I just rooted last night so effectively did a fresh install on the November firmware. I turned off AOD, Digital Wellbeing and Lift to Wake as part of this.
I haven't really used root to prohibit anything I couldn't have done without root (yet) and last night used EXKM to track stats.
Over 7 hours I only lost 2% battery and had idle drain of 0.28% per hour which is much much better.
You've already said AOD is off but not sure about Digital Wellbeing. I'm not sure if the factory reset and setting up straight on November firmware helped the situation but might be worth a go?
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I'm super paranoid about this stuff, and so since I knew that an OTA was in the pipe when I received it, I just skipped the first time setup to go straight to System Update and install the OTA
Then I factory reset, and only THEN I set it up properly with my Google account etc.
So I guess this answers your question
Digital Wellbeing is on for me tho (lift to wake is also off, as it tap to wake - although there's the bug, I think, which would still enable the screen in B/W mode when phone is lifted).
2% in 7 hours is awesome, that's what I'm aiming for, but I'm really not willing to root
I guess I will re-factory reset and maybe installing apps in batches, instead of all in one go...
EDIT: just re-read your post and you said you haven't made any of the root-enabled modifications yet, so even more call me amazed. I guess I'll also try disabling Wellbeing at this point...

rosso22 said:
Mine dropped 20% in 8hrs over night, seems a bit excessive.
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It is, especially if you consider that it's 1000mAh.
A Pixel 2 XL dropping by, say, 10% (which is still much higher than what I used to get), means a consumption of 352mAh.
In terms of efficiency, a crappy P2XL performace is still thrice as efficient as what we're seeing here on the P6Pro (and ideally tech should move forward and become MORE, not less, efficient...)

andrea.ippo said:
I'm super paranoid about this stuff, and so since I knew that an OTA was in the pipe when I received it, I just skipped the first time setup to go straight to System Update and install the OTA
Then I factory reset, and only THEN I set it up properly with my Google account etc.
So I guess this answers your question
Digital Wellbeing is on for me tho (lift to wake is also off, as it tap to wake - although there's the bug, I think, which would still enable the screen in B/W mode when phone is lifted).
2% in 7 hours is awesome, that's what I'm aiming for, but I'm really not willing to root
I guess I will re-factory reset and maybe installing apps in batches, instead of all in one go...
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Yeah,
In terms of root, I hadn't done anything with root until this morning really so there shouldn't be anything affecting my idle drain figures that you wouldn't be able to do without root.
Otherwise, try turning off all digital wellbeing features (bedtime mode, timers and focus mode) and remove permissions to digital wellbeing and then clear data. Try that for a few days and see how that has an impact.

I've noticed the same issues, I would normally have my phone switch off over and and switch on but this doesn't seem to have that option

andrea.ippo said:
In terms of efficiency, a crappy P2XL performace is still thrice as efficient as what we're seeing here on the P6Pro (and ideally tech should move forward and become MORE, not less, efficient...)
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Quite agree with you there, my Pixel 2 XL often goes 5 or 6 days without needing to be charged, although to be fair I'm working from home and it gets little use during those days and only on Wi-Fi for most of it. so not typical usage. I don't think the Pixel 6 Pro will go as long, in theory with exactly the same usage it should go for longer as larger battery and newer chips sipping less power, certainly when doing little in standby.
Too early to tell if the Pixel 6 Pro can better 5 or 6 days as I've been playing with it a lot more, but in theory it should without question, so something is seriously wrong it it can't.
As for the Pixel 2 XL, I dip into it now and again, and the one thing I'm missing on the Android 12 is not getting true black, why have they made black dark grey on all the setting pages etc? Why reduce contrast? I'd love to be in those design meetings just to see what rubbish they come up with to justify some of these changes.

PhilipL2021 said:
Quite agree with you there, my Pixel 2 XL often goes 5 or 6 days without needing to be charged, although to be fair I'm working from home and it gets little use during those days and only on Wi-Fi for most of it. so not typical usage. I don't think the Pixel 6 Pro will go as long, in theory with exactly the same usage it should go for longer as larger battery and newer chips sipping less power, certainly when doing little in standby.
Too early to tell if the Pixel 6 Pro can better 5 or 6 days as I've been playing with it a lot more, but in theory it should without question, so something is seriously wrong it it can't.
As for the Pixel 2 XL, I dip into it now and again, and the one thing I'm missing on the Android 12 is not getting true black, why have they made black dark grey on all the setting pages etc? Why reduce contrast? I'd love to be in those design meetings just to see what rubbish they come up with to justify some of these changes.
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IIRC full black will cause smearing while scrolling. And the display of the P2XL was, let's say it, crap.

The Pixel 2 XL display looks absolutely fine to me, and I have never seen any smearing when scrolling. When we had LCD everyone was raving about OLED having true blacks, and everyone wanting a dark mode, now in many places in the UI it looks worse then most LCD panels for contrast. So its now fashionable to have artificially lowered contrast.
Android 12 DP2: Dark theme on Pixel gets even lighter
Android 12 has tweaked dark mode again in its second developer preview to make it even lighter than the previous release.
9to5google.com
Google, give us the option to change it back, it is suppose to be Material You so we can go back to customising again (like we once had), but it seems the only options now are washed out pastels.

rav101 said:
Hey,
I was having a similar issue on my P6Pro with high idle drain (about 1.8% to 2% per hour) using AccuBattery Pro to measure over the last week (got my device last Tuesday).
I just rooted last night so effectively did a fresh install on the November firmware. I turned off AOD, Digital Wellbeing and Lift to Wake as part of this.
I haven't really used root to prohibit anything I couldn't have done without root (yet) and last night used EXKM to track stats.
Over 7 hours I only lost 2% battery and had idle drain of 0.28% per hour which is much much better.
You've already said AOD is off but not sure about Digital Wellbeing. I'm not sure if the factory reset and setting up straight on November firmware helped the situation but might be worth a go?
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Can you monitor with BetterBatteryStats or similar now you have root to see if there's anything in particular using the phone during idle?

How do I turn off Digital Wellbeing?

spr33 said:
Can you monitor with BetterBatteryStats or similar now you have root to see if there's anything in particular using the phone during idle?
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I can but from what I heard in one of the TG groups today, BBS isn't working properly due to changes in Android 12.
Zorachus said:
How do I turn off Digital Wellbeing?
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Go to settings, Digital Wellbeing and turn off all the options if you turned any of them on. Go to Settings, Apps and then find digital wellbeing and remove all permissions, then within that section also wipe data for Digital Wellbeing. That pretty much resets it back to stock. Without root, you can't freeze the app or remove it but this should be good enough.

rav101 said:
I can but from what I heard in one of the TG groups today, BBS isn't working properly due to changes in Android 12.
Go to settings, Digital Wellbeing and turn off all the options if you turned any of them on. Go to Settings, Apps and then find digital wellbeing and remove all permissions, then within that section also wipe data for Digital Wellbeing. That pretty much resets it back to stock. Without root, you can't freeze the app or remove it but this should be good enough.
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Ah, damn.
Guess it'll be 'top' or 'htop' in terminal then for now.

Mine lost about 7% overnight last night. I've read on this forum that they aren't sleeping well. With two adb commands I installed Nap Time by Francisco Franco and it seem to be going into a deep sleep when not being used now.

ggrant3876 said:
Mine lost about 7% overnight last night. I've read on this forum that they aren't sleeping well. With two adb commands I installed Nap Time by Francisco Franco and it seem to be going into a deep sleep when not being used now.
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I've got NapTime as well. The trouble is light and deep doze is just the Android OS restricting what apps do and forcing them into maintenance schedules so things are done in batches. So its an app thing rather than a low level forcing of the phones CPU to sleep, so even in light or deep doze it doesn't guarantee that Android has been halted and the CPU is in sleep, that is another thing step. It should make Android more likely to suspend and the CPU to go to sleep if Apps aren't allowed to chatter over the network, but deep doze doesn't guarantee the phone has gone into standby.
Other things can prevent the device from truly suspending and putting the CPU into sleep mode, so other things may be happening, it might not be an app issue.
To check how long the CPU is in deep sleep (essentially the phone is off and Android is suspended and is what we need to see so top battery drain overnight) CPU Spy can show you that, currently mine is showing 82% deep sleep overall. When you see a low percentage of deep sleep and high percentage at 300Mhz, then something is stopping the phone for sleeping, so it is kept awake doing little so idles constantly at the lowest CPU clock speed, but this still uses quite a bit of power compared to deep sleep.

The age old question for those of you having battery drains, Did you turn off wifi scanning?