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Purchased Google Pixel XL from Costo's third-party wireless kiosk. My service is through Verizon (existing customer), but phone and packaging are all sans Verizon markings. Did I step in some lucky poo and get a unit without the nasty Verizon Bootloader? How can I tell?
Apologies if this is a dumb question, don't kill me.
/ it occurs to me that I do not see the nasty Verizon logo when the thing boots...
// also, after boot, device searches for carrier.
The Google Pixel has no Verizon markings even when its been purchased from VZW. Anyway, easiest way to check is to enable developer options and check to see if you can slide the 'OEM Unlock' switch.
death2all110 said:
The Google Pixel has no Verizon markings even when its been purchased from VZW. Anyway, easiest way to check is to enable developer options and check to see if you can slide the 'OEM Unlock' switch.
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And my bubble has been burst.
Thanks for the pointer.
loaba said:
And my bubble has been burst.
Thanks for the pointer.[
You can unlock the bootloader, I have a verizon pixel xl and I did it. Its now on Tmobile, waiting for twrp
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I bought a Pixel XL used on eBay and I can't seem to find any way of telling which version of the phone this is.
The model number is the same for the Verizon and Google models.
Anyone know of a way to distinguish the two?
Go to developer options and see if OEM unlocking is blocked out
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Go to developer options and see if OEM unlocking is blocked out
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That only works if new in-the-box.
Once unlocked the toggle is grayed out, even on the Google version.
Sent from my Pixel XL
Actually it's greyed but says if the bootloader unlocked
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Actually it's greyed but says if the bootloader unlocked
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Ah, yes.
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This is going to sound stupid, but I was so excited to unlock the bootloader that I used the dePixel8 to unlock it, without even checking.
I read that it would work on a Verizon or Google one and did it, without thinking of not being able to tell what version it is in the future.
zipxavier said:
This is going to sound stupid, but I was so excited to unlock the bootloader that I used the dePixel8 to unlock it, without even checking.
I read that it would work on a Verizon or Google one and did it, without thinking of not being able to tell what version it is in the future.
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If you're unlocked, thank your lucky stars and fuggedaboutit!
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Check you're Cid. Vzw is vzw001 I believe.
anyone figured this out?
At the bottom back of phone is a model number. You need a magnifying glass to see it. Somewhere on this forum is the key to the different model numbers. I saw it a couple days ago but don't remember where.
Edit: Go here https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
Mine is 2PW2100 and I'm on Fi SIM but it supports Verizon too. Mine is an RMA replacement of a bad Google Nexus 6p.
lovemachine35 said:
At the bottom back of phone is a model number. You need a magnifying glass to see it. Somewhere on this forum is the key to the different model numbers. I saw it a couple days ago but don't remember where.
Edit: Go here https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
Mine is 2PW2100 and I'm on Fi SIM but it supports Verizon too. Mine is an RMA replacement of a bad Google Nexus 6p.
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My Google model number shows up in Settings>System>About phone>Regulatory labels as a G-2PW2100.
lovemachine35 said:
At the bottom back of phone is a model number. You need a magnifying glass to see it. Somewhere on this forum is the key to the different model numbers. I saw it a couple days ago but don't remember where.
Edit: Go here https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
Mine is 2PW2100 and I'm on Fi SIM but it supports Verizon too. Mine is an RMA replacement of a bad Google Nexus 6p.
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The verizon and google version have the same model number. That is probably why OP is asking how to tell the difference.
EDIT: you can tell by using the following command after enabling usb debugging in developer options.
Code:
adb shell getprop ro.boot.cid
Verizon will return something like VZW__001
and Google will return all 1's like 11111111
What if its all 0s ?
Consider me in the boat as well, a victim of the locked boot loader Verizon model
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/hope-pixel-xl-g-2pw2100-android-8-0-to-t3724789
Inform me if a way was found to unlock its bootloader for customizations.
Thanks.
HyperEscape said:
Consider me in the boat as well, a victim of the locked boot loader Verizon model
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/hope-pixel-xl-g-2pw2100-android-8-0-to-t3724789
Inform me if a way was found to unlock its bootloader for customizations.
Thanks.
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I was pointing this out to a V store manager and when we checked his personal Pixel XL under developer options, the OEM Unlocking option did not even show. It wasn't grayed out, it was hidden. I held my real Pixel XL up next to his and showed the option there. He finally relented and admitted/realized that the Verizon phone is not the same as the pure Google phone. Verizon f's them up. :laugh:
85gallon said:
I was pointing this out to a V store manager and when we checked his personal Pixel XL under developer options, the OEM Unlocking option did not even show. It wasn't grayed out, it was hidden. I held my real Pixel XL up next to his and showed the option there. He finally relented and admitted/realized that the Verizon phone is not the same as the pure Google phone. Verizon f's them up. :laugh:
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Sure I have come to this realization soon enough within almost 20 hours of getting my phone...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74957977&postcount=3
Thanks.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
The verizon and google version have the same model number. That is probably why OP is asking how to tell the difference.
EDIT: you can tell by using the following command after enabling usb debugging in developer options.
Code:
adb shell getprop ro.boot.cid
Verizon will return something like VZW__001
and Google will return all 1's like 11111111
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I there any other way to tell? For example is the VZW model missing certain bands that the Play model supports? Or a different serial number? Im trying to buy a Pixel XL and I dont want to be F*CKED over with the Verizon one and none of the sellers show the settings page with OEM Unlocking. If I cant figure this out Im just going to get a different phone
3mutts said:
The verizon and google version have the same model number. That is probably why OP is asking how to tell the difference.
EDIT: you can tell by using the following command after enabling usb debugging in developer options.
I there any other way to tell? For example is the VZW model missing certain bands that the Play model supports? Or a different serial number? Im trying to buy a Pixel XL and I dont want to be F*CKED over with the Verizon one and none of the sellers show the settings page with OEM Unlocking. If I cant figure this out Im just going to get a different phone
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Turn on Dev options and look to see if the OEM unlock slider is blue or gray. If it's blue it can be unlocked.
That is the only way to be sure. Even the CID check can be wrong, we have seen quite a few phones mislabeled by Google.
TonikJDK said:
Turn on Dev options and look to see if the OEM unlock slider is blue or gray. If it's blue it can be unlocked.
That is the only way to be sure. Even the CID check can be wrong, we have seen quite a few phones mislabeled by Google.
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Well that sucks, the only reason I wanted to make sure is because I dont want to argue with the seller to take it back for an issue they most likely dont understand (that and I dont want to pay return shipping only to end up with another Verizon model). Also the only reason I am even considering replacing my Nexus 6 is the fact it has a 32 bit CPU and the fact Google seems to be itching to get rid of 32 bit support completely
What I did: 1. look for private sellers, not stores or dealers, and avoid refurbs; 2. look for the color on the box being labelled in French as well as English (Verizon versions only show color in English); 3. contact the seller to ask them if they bought it direct from Google (if bought from anywhere other than Google Store or Project Fi it is the Verizon version).
I got a Google pixel 2 xl from a friend of mine, and I'm trying to unlock the bootloader on the latest 8.1 Ota but no matter what I tried it does not work the option in dev is greyed out I also attempted commands from bootloader itself and still kept saying device already locked... Will I not be able to unlock the bootloader at all? I also factory reset afew times still nothing.
Is it a Verizon or Google device? If it's a Verizon device, then you may be out of luck. From what I've read, the bootloader cannot be unlocked on Verizon devices.
Face_Plant said:
Is it a Verizon or Google device? If it's a Verizon device, then you may be out of luck. From what I've read, the bootloader cannot be unlocked on Verizon devices.
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It must be Verizon.. I've tried everything I can.. No luck. This Is very rediciolous.. Sigh bought it for 575 64gb so maybe I'll look for a trade or whatnot
I have a dumb question. Do you have your SIM card in the phone and is it connected to the internet?
Turgur said:
I have a dumb question. Do you have your SIM card in the phone and is it connected to the internet?
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Yes it is I've tried the factory reset on wifi and sim option is still greyed out
If he got it from Best buy most likely it's a Verizon variant
You cant unlocked the bootloader I'm the Verizon variant.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using XDA-Developers Legacy app
I'll buy it from you... if it's for sale!
is there a way to tell? I bought mine at target
umx said:
is there a way to tell? I bought mine at target
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Enable developer options and check if you can turn on OEM unlocking. If you can, it's the Google edition. If you've already unlocked the bootloader using fastboot commands and you haven't installed Magisk, the toggle will be grayed out but it will be stuck in the on position.
AFAIK all Pixels bought outside of the Google online store, including devices bought in Google pop-up stores, are the Verizon version but YMMV
umx said:
is there a way to tell? I bought mine at target
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Target ones are Verizon hence locked bootloader
Wait!
I also had this problem, try a factory reset and without setting a passcode or a fingerprint! That solved it for me
I also disabled the Find my Phone thing from the security settings.
AcidNoteZ said:
Wait!
I also had this problem, try a factory reset and without setting a passcode or a fingerprint! That solved it for me
I also disabled the Find my Phone thing from the security settings.
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That's not gonna help with a Verizon variant.
GokuSSJgod said:
That's not gonna help with a Verizon variant.
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I have one directly from Google and had the same issue.
Let him try it at least.
AcidNoteZ said:
I have one directly from Google and had the same issue.
Let him try it at least.
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Good idea, since there was a bug mentioned in this article: https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/21/google-fixes-disabled-bootloader-unlock-pixel-2-phones/ about this.
martyfried said:
Good idea, since there was a bug mentioned in this article: https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/21/google-fixes-disabled-bootloader-unlock-pixel-2-phones/ about this.
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He can try, but that bug only related to the Pixel 2, not the Pixel 2 XL.
uicnren said:
He can try, but that bug only related to the Pixel 2, not the Pixel 2 XL.
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Oh, you're right; I missed that.
darkfire404 said:
Enable developer options and check if you can turn on OEM unlocking. If you can, it's the Google edition. If you've already unlocked the bootloader using fastboot commands and you haven't installed Magisk, the toggle will be grayed out but it will be stuck in the on position.
AFAIK all Pixels bought outside of the Google online store, including devices bought in Google pop-up stores, are the Verizon version but YMMV
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Good info.
Does anyone know if the VZN Pixel (OG) would have Verizon apps installed? Is there no way to tell a Verizon Pixel from a Google store Pixel except for whether you can check OEM unlocking button?
FoneWatcher said:
Good info.
Does anyone know if the VZN Pixel (OG) would have Verizon apps installed? Is there no way to tell a Verizon Pixel from a Google store Pixel except for whether you can check OEM unlocking button?
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The Google ones don't come with any installed Verizon apps. However, once you plug in a Verizon sim card, then you may get a couple after you reboot.
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The Google ones don't come with any installed Verizon apps. However, once you plug in a Verizon sim card, then you may get a couple after you reboot.
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Appreciated.
Just to clarify, unless you install a Verizon SIM, then the Verizon apps are hidden?
I am getting quite confused about if the Pixel 2 XL for verizon is unlockable and rootable, or if its not?
There are so many thread saying that it is with guides and some that say it is impossible.
Can anyone tell me if its possible? I recently purchased one of these phones via ebay and it was suppose to be google unblocked but its verizon.
So I am wondering if its worth keeping or returning for the unlocked one.
Thanks
js2shanks said:
I am getting quite confused about if the Pixel 2 XL for verizon is unlockable and rootable, or if its not?
There are so many thread saying that it is with guides and some that say it is impossible.
Can anyone tell me if its possible? I recently purchased one of these phones via ebay and it was suppose to be google unblocked but its verizon.
So I am wondering if its worth keeping or returning for the unlocked one.
Thanks
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Go dev options and see if bootloader unlock is greyed out, if so no unlock for you
p70shooter said:
Go dev options and see if bootloader unlock is greyed out, if so no unlock for you
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so the one exploit using abd does not work on it?
it is indeed grayed out
js2shanks said:
so the one exploit using abd does not work on it?
it is indeed grayed out
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No unlocked bootloader for you then.
p70shooter said:
No unlocked bootloader for you then.
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my dreams of leaving the note 8 are crushed=(
thank you for the information
p70shooter said:
No unlocked bootloader for you then.
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You big meanie!! ??????
Badger50 said:
You big meanie!! ??????
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??
js2shanks said:
so the one exploit using abd does not work on it?
it is indeed grayed out
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You could try it for a bit before dumping it. You may find that you can disable the apps you don't
like and customize it enough to not miss root apps. The P2 XL is actually a great phone out of the box.
Great daily user with strong battery.
michaelbsheldon said:
You could try it for a bit before dumping it. You may find that you can disable the apps you don't
like and customize it enough to not miss root apps. The P2 XL is actually a great phone out of the box.
Great daily user with strong battery.
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I really would love to but I want that xposed youtube adaway among other things haha
js2shanks said:
I really would love to but I want that xposed youtube adaway among other things haha
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There is an app called Virtual Xposed on github, which is basically a rootless Xposed module in a virtual enviornment on the phone, which can do that for you.
I am really gonna test that right now on my note.
If that works I love you man
Not going to help you, but I heard some people were able to unlock the bootloader by turning phone on , not inserting SIM card, & oem unlocking wasn't greyed out. Something about the phone connecting to vzw made the oem unlocking greyed out. I'm sure if that was still working would here more about it
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Not going to help you, but I heard some people were able to unlock the bootloader by turning phone on , not inserting SIM card, & oem unlocking wasn't greyed out. Something about the phone connecting to vzw made the oem unlocking greyed out. I'm sure if that was still working would here more about it
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It still works, just only a few people tried it. Lmao
Lol
MColbath said:
It still works, just only a few people tried it. Lmao
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That's not true. It only worked one person's refurb unit. Quit lying or you'll be sued for liable and slander lol what's up man? Sucks that we haven't found a root option
GokuSSJgod said:
That's not true. It only worked one person's refurb unit. Quit lying or you'll be sued for liable and slander lol what's up man? Sucks that we haven't found a root option
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Before the first boot the device doesn't have any configuration from Verizon. The only difference between the Google and Verizon model is that there is a pre-installed sim card in it. So, if you were to take the sim card out it wouldn't be recognized as a verizon phone and thus you would be able to unlock the bootloader. The only reason so few people get to unlock the bootloader is because the employee at Verizon turns the phone on in the store and activate it registering the device with Verizon.
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Before the first boot the device doesn't have any configuration from Verizon. The only difference between the Google and Verizon model is that there is a pre-installed sim card in it. So, if you were to take the sim card out it wouldn't be recognized as a verizon phone and thus you would be able to unlock the bootloader. The only reason so few people get to unlock the bootloader is because the employee at Verizon turns the phone on in the store and activate it registering the device with Verizon.
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If that were true the Google phones would lock if they were first started with a VZ SIM in it. Mine didn't, nor did anyone else's.
TonikJDK said:
If that were true the Google phones would lock if they were first started with a VZ SIM in it. Mine didn't, nor did anyone else's.
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Well, I might be wrong because I don't know exactly how the activation process goes but it mostly has to do with imei being registered with Verizon. Which doesn't happen when you buy them directly from Google. I mean they both have the same model number and the software version you have when you get the phone has nothing to do with the oem lock being greyed out. Actually, it might also be the serial for a pre-installed sim card has a different activation process then one that isn't, although that is unlikely.
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Well, I might be wrong because I don't know exactly how the activation process goes but it mostly has to do with imei being registered with Verizon. Which doesn't happen when you buy them directly from Google. I mean they both have the same model number and the software version you have when you get the phone has nothing to do with the oem lock being greyed out. Actually, it might also be the serial for a pre-installed sim card has a different activation process then one that isn't, although that is unlikely.
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Other way around.All the phones are registered with Google. They all ship locked. The phone on first boot contacts Google to see if it has permission to unlock, if it is a Google phone it gets permission. If it is a VZ phone it doesn't. It has nothing to do with what SIM is in it. The few VZ phones that do unlock are because Google messed up and entered it as a Google phone.
We have seen and captured the packets as they go to the Google server, it is very clear what is happening.
No offense, but a lot of us have known this for a long time. Since early on in the OG Pixel days. We have explained it time and time again. When we do we get grief for it, which I will get any second now by someone that just got a mislabeld Verizon phone and it unlocked for them. They have no idea how but now they are an expert.
That's why no one is really trying to unlock the phone or help. Nothing but grief if you do. Same reason many of the ROM developers have left xda.
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If that were true the Google phones would lock if they were first started with a VZ SIM in it. Mine didn't, nor did anyone else's.
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Yeah, I pulled my VZW sim from my 6P and dropped it in the 2 XL prior to first boot and I'm still unlocked and never got any of the VZW crap for the two weeks I remained 100% stock.
So I'm thinking that theory can't be reverse engineered...
I know they lock them down, but I checked developer settings just for giggles and I noticed the OEM unlocking setting says "Unavailable on carrier-locked devices". So my wishful thinking is that after 60 days (after device is paid off, or after it's been active for 60 days, I don't know), Verizon unlocks the phone to use on other carriers....does this mean we can unlock the bootloader after 60 days? Or is it just carrier unlocking as the setting suggests?
I haven't felt the need to root my phones since my OG Pixel XL, because they were so good, but this just peaked my curiosity.
JoeProcopio said:
I know they lock them down, but I checked developer settings just for giggles and I noticed the OEM unlocking setting says "Unavailable on carrier-locked devices". So my wishful thinking is that after 60 days (after device is paid off, or after it's been active for 60 days, I don't know), Verizon unlocks the phone to use on other carriers....does this mean we can unlock the bootloader after 60 days? Or is it just carrier unlocking as the setting suggests?
I haven't felt the need to root my phones since my OG Pixel XL, because they were so good, but this just peaked my curiosity.
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Uhm, why don't you just give your carrier a call and ask them?
JoeProcopio said:
I know they lock them down, but I checked developer settings just for giggles and I noticed the OEM unlocking setting says "Unavailable on carrier-locked devices". So my wishful thinking is that after 60 days (after device is paid off, or after it's been active for 60 days, I don't know), Verizon unlocks the phone to use on other carriers....does this mean we can unlock the bootloader after 60 days? Or is it just carrier unlocking as the setting suggests?
I haven't felt the need to root my phones since my OG Pixel XL, because they were so good, but this just peaked my curiosity.
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No, they don't unlock the bootloader - just the SIM for use on other carriers.
SIM unlocking the Pixel 6 allows the OEM unlocking:
bhow11 said:
FWIW I bought a pixel 6 through tmobile, asked support for permanent sim unlock and voila...
OEM unlocking can now be enabled in developer options
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There is a good chance it's the same for the Pixel 6 Pro
T-Mobile, not Verizon...
Sine. said:
SIM unlocking the Pixel 6 allows the OEM unlocking:
There is a good chance it's the same for the Pixel 6 Pro
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It is, for T-Mobile.
Verizon, being the ass carrier they are, has always restricted the bootloader even on pixels in the past. Why anyone still buys their locked phones is beyond me, but hope for the best...
The only chance that you'll be able to unlock a Verizon variant is if something happens such as with the original Pixel running Android 7.10 or lower, or some other super rare new exploit. You shouldn't even think about holding your breath that it could happen.
craznazn said:
It is, for T-Mobile.
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My bad, sorry
Have any of the Verizon Pixels been unlocked other than the OG for some lucky individuals?
zetsumeikuro said:
Have any of the Verizon Pixels been unlocked other than the OG for some lucky individuals?
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Not that I've ever heard of.
dcarvil said:
No, they don't unlock the bootloader - just the SIM for use on other carriers.
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that's what I thought, but the wording is a bit confusing, so I figured I would ask! Maybe somebody will attempt to unlock it since this phone should be the most popular Pixel to date.
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It is, for T-Mobile.
Verizon, being the ass carrier they are, has always restricted the bootloader even on pixels in the past. Why anyone still buys their locked phones is beyond me, but hope for the best...
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I keep telling myself I'm going to go through the Google store for my next phone, but I got $700 off this through VZW with my trade-in and an Update coupon, I couldn't pass that up.