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I bought a Pixel XL used on eBay and I can't seem to find any way of telling which version of the phone this is.
The model number is the same for the Verizon and Google models.
Anyone know of a way to distinguish the two?
Go to developer options and see if OEM unlocking is blocked out
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Go to developer options and see if OEM unlocking is blocked out
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That only works if new in-the-box.
Once unlocked the toggle is grayed out, even on the Google version.
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Actually it's greyed but says if the bootloader unlocked
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Actually it's greyed but says if the bootloader unlocked
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Ah, yes.
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This is going to sound stupid, but I was so excited to unlock the bootloader that I used the dePixel8 to unlock it, without even checking.
I read that it would work on a Verizon or Google one and did it, without thinking of not being able to tell what version it is in the future.
zipxavier said:
This is going to sound stupid, but I was so excited to unlock the bootloader that I used the dePixel8 to unlock it, without even checking.
I read that it would work on a Verizon or Google one and did it, without thinking of not being able to tell what version it is in the future.
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If you're unlocked, thank your lucky stars and fuggedaboutit!
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Check you're Cid. Vzw is vzw001 I believe.
anyone figured this out?
At the bottom back of phone is a model number. You need a magnifying glass to see it. Somewhere on this forum is the key to the different model numbers. I saw it a couple days ago but don't remember where.
Edit: Go here https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
Mine is 2PW2100 and I'm on Fi SIM but it supports Verizon too. Mine is an RMA replacement of a bad Google Nexus 6p.
lovemachine35 said:
At the bottom back of phone is a model number. You need a magnifying glass to see it. Somewhere on this forum is the key to the different model numbers. I saw it a couple days ago but don't remember where.
Edit: Go here https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
Mine is 2PW2100 and I'm on Fi SIM but it supports Verizon too. Mine is an RMA replacement of a bad Google Nexus 6p.
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My Google model number shows up in Settings>System>About phone>Regulatory labels as a G-2PW2100.
lovemachine35 said:
At the bottom back of phone is a model number. You need a magnifying glass to see it. Somewhere on this forum is the key to the different model numbers. I saw it a couple days ago but don't remember where.
Edit: Go here https://www.techwalls.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl-model-number-differences/
Mine is 2PW2100 and I'm on Fi SIM but it supports Verizon too. Mine is an RMA replacement of a bad Google Nexus 6p.
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The verizon and google version have the same model number. That is probably why OP is asking how to tell the difference.
EDIT: you can tell by using the following command after enabling usb debugging in developer options.
Code:
adb shell getprop ro.boot.cid
Verizon will return something like VZW__001
and Google will return all 1's like 11111111
What if its all 0s ?
Consider me in the boat as well, a victim of the locked boot loader Verizon model
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/hope-pixel-xl-g-2pw2100-android-8-0-to-t3724789
Inform me if a way was found to unlock its bootloader for customizations.
Thanks.
HyperEscape said:
Consider me in the boat as well, a victim of the locked boot loader Verizon model
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/hope-pixel-xl-g-2pw2100-android-8-0-to-t3724789
Inform me if a way was found to unlock its bootloader for customizations.
Thanks.
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I was pointing this out to a V store manager and when we checked his personal Pixel XL under developer options, the OEM Unlocking option did not even show. It wasn't grayed out, it was hidden. I held my real Pixel XL up next to his and showed the option there. He finally relented and admitted/realized that the Verizon phone is not the same as the pure Google phone. Verizon f's them up. :laugh:
85gallon said:
I was pointing this out to a V store manager and when we checked his personal Pixel XL under developer options, the OEM Unlocking option did not even show. It wasn't grayed out, it was hidden. I held my real Pixel XL up next to his and showed the option there. He finally relented and admitted/realized that the Verizon phone is not the same as the pure Google phone. Verizon f's them up. :laugh:
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Sure I have come to this realization soon enough within almost 20 hours of getting my phone...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74957977&postcount=3
Thanks.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
The verizon and google version have the same model number. That is probably why OP is asking how to tell the difference.
EDIT: you can tell by using the following command after enabling usb debugging in developer options.
Code:
adb shell getprop ro.boot.cid
Verizon will return something like VZW__001
and Google will return all 1's like 11111111
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I there any other way to tell? For example is the VZW model missing certain bands that the Play model supports? Or a different serial number? Im trying to buy a Pixel XL and I dont want to be F*CKED over with the Verizon one and none of the sellers show the settings page with OEM Unlocking. If I cant figure this out Im just going to get a different phone
3mutts said:
The verizon and google version have the same model number. That is probably why OP is asking how to tell the difference.
EDIT: you can tell by using the following command after enabling usb debugging in developer options.
I there any other way to tell? For example is the VZW model missing certain bands that the Play model supports? Or a different serial number? Im trying to buy a Pixel XL and I dont want to be F*CKED over with the Verizon one and none of the sellers show the settings page with OEM Unlocking. If I cant figure this out Im just going to get a different phone
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Turn on Dev options and look to see if the OEM unlock slider is blue or gray. If it's blue it can be unlocked.
That is the only way to be sure. Even the CID check can be wrong, we have seen quite a few phones mislabeled by Google.
TonikJDK said:
Turn on Dev options and look to see if the OEM unlock slider is blue or gray. If it's blue it can be unlocked.
That is the only way to be sure. Even the CID check can be wrong, we have seen quite a few phones mislabeled by Google.
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Well that sucks, the only reason I wanted to make sure is because I dont want to argue with the seller to take it back for an issue they most likely dont understand (that and I dont want to pay return shipping only to end up with another Verizon model). Also the only reason I am even considering replacing my Nexus 6 is the fact it has a 32 bit CPU and the fact Google seems to be itching to get rid of 32 bit support completely
What I did: 1. look for private sellers, not stores or dealers, and avoid refurbs; 2. look for the color on the box being labelled in French as well as English (Verizon versions only show color in English); 3. contact the seller to ask them if they bought it direct from Google (if bought from anywhere other than Google Store or Project Fi it is the Verizon version).
Hi,
I was looking at purchasing a pixel XL online and the current owner is unsure if it's a Google or a Verizon variant of the phone. But he said that Verizon doesn't sell the blue color so it has to be from Google. Could anyone verify this? Or is there any other way I can verify if it's a Verizon variant or not. I would love to have an unlockable bootloader so I'm trying to avoid the Verizon version.
Thanks!
balag59 said:
Hi,
I was looking at purchasing a pixel XL online and the current owner is unsure if it's a Google or a Verizon variant of the phone. But he said that Verizon doesn't sell the blue color so it has to be from Google. Could anyone verify this? Or is there any other way I can verify if it's a Verizon variant or not. I would love to have an unlockable bootloader so I'm trying to avoid the Verizon version.
Thanks!
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Verizon has sold the Pixel in blue.
balag59 said:
Hi,
I was looking at purchasing a pixel XL online and the current owner is unsure if it's a Google or a Verizon variant of the phone. But he said that Verizon doesn't sell the blue color so it has to be from Google. Could anyone verify this? Or is there any other way I can verify if it's a Verizon variant or not. I would love to have an unlockable bootloader so I'm trying to avoid the Verizon version.
Thanks!
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Verizon and google both sell the blue and both comes with only 32gb. So if he is not sure and u want unlock bootloader which is why u want the google version. Test the phone before buying. Connect the phone to wifi, go into "developer option". Go into "oem unlocking" and see if u can enable it. (Need phone to be connected to wifi). Give it a minute or 2. If u CANT enable it then it means u cant unlock bootloader (verizon version). If u CAN enable it google version. Assuming phone is on 7.1.2
eduardmc said:
Verizon and google both sell the blue and both comes with only 32gb. So if he is not sure and u want unlock bootloader which is why u want the google version. Test the phone before buying. Connect the phone to wifi, go into "developer option". Go into "oem unlocking" and see if u can enable it. (Need phone to be connected to wifi). Give it a minute or 2. If u CANT enable it then it means u cant unlock bootloader (verizon version). If u CAN enable it google version. Assuming phone is on 7.1.2
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Thank you so much! I'll try that.
Does anyone know definitively if a non-VZW pixel gets activated with VZW, does the bootloader become non-unlockable?
DevADX said:
Does anyone know definitively if a non-VZW pixel gets activated with VZW, does the bootloader become non-unlockable?
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It doesn't.
Just did that myself. I put in the Vzw sim, have service and bootloader remains unlockable.
wtherrell said:
It doesn't.
Just did that myself. I put in the Vzw sim, have service and bootloader remains unlockable.
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Is this true even after VZW OTA update? I'm thinking about buying an used Pixel but want to be certain that the bootloader is unlockable.
DevADX said:
Is this true even after VZW OTA update? I'm thinking about buying an used Pixel but want to be certain that the bootloader is unlockable.
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That, I don't know. I have not taken a Vzw ota in years.
DevADX said:
Is this true even after VZW OTA update? I'm thinking about buying an used Pixel but want to be certain that the bootloader is unlockable.
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I have a Google phone on VZ. It stays unlocked no matter what you do.
TonikJDK said:
I have a Google phone on VZ. It stays unlocked no matter what you do.
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So just to confirm, as long as it's not a Verizon variant of the Pixel, even if it's running stock VZW ROM & has received OTA updates while the bootloader is locked, it's still unlockable? I'd feel more confident buying an used one if this is the case; just need to confirm the SKU prior to purchasing.
nothing you do (besides manually relocking the device) will re-lock the bootloader.
My google bought xl runs a full verizon image.
Is there another way to differentiate the VZW & non-VZW Pixels besides the SKU on the box?
DevADX said:
So just to confirm, as long as it's not a Verizon variant of the Pixel, even if it's running stock VZW ROM & has received OTA updates while the bootloader is locked, it's still unlockable? I'd feel more confident buying an used one if this is the case; just need to confirm the SKU prior to purchasing.
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The non-Verizon Pixel has nothing to do with Verizon. The only thing Verizon about a non-Verizon variant is the Verizon sim card you put in. You mentioned it running a Verizon ROM however...the only way to have the Verizon ROM on it would to have unlocked the bootloader at some point and replaced the stock android with a Verizon ROM.
markcyst said:
The non-Verizon Pixel has nothing to do with Verizon. The only thing Verizon about a non-Verizon variant is the Verizon sim card you put in. You mentioned it running a Verizon ROM however...the only way to have the Verizon ROM on it would to have unlocked the bootloader at some point and replaced the stock android with a Verizon ROM.
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I should mention that I made a USUnlocked Pixel XL be never unlockable again.
Before putting in a VZN sim, I unlocked it. Sometime after, I got tired of the warning on boot-up and locked it.
The Verizon sim or the Google Verizon Image greyed out the Developer's Option of Unlock bootloader choice.
Forever. There was no way to get that icon to become alive again. So, the VZN sim or the VZN image will not relock
your phone, but it for sure prevents you from locking and unlocking it again. Felt like an idiot for relocking.
michaelbsheldon said:
I should mention that I made a USUnlocked Pixel XL be never unlockable again.
Before putting in a VZN sim, I unlocked it. Sometime after, I got tired of the warning on boot-up and locked it.
The Verizon sim or the Google Verizon Image greyed out the Developer's Option of Unlock bootloader choice.
Forever. There was no way to get that icon to become alive again. So, the VZN sim or the VZN image will not relock
your phone, but it for sure prevents you from locking and unlocking it again. Felt like an idiot for relocking.
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Wait a minute. You are leaving out some very pertinent information.
1. Was this a Google phone or a Verizon phone
2. Did you unlock with depixel 8 or not
3. After you locked the bootloader did you slide the switch over in dev options
This is the first I heard anything like that happening. If this is a Google phone then you can certainly return it stating what happened. You bought a developer device and somehow it became a consumer phone. That sounds like a warranty return to me.
bobby janow said:
Wait a minute. You are leaving out some very pertinent information.
1. Was this a Google phone or a Verizon phone
2. Did you unlock with depixel 8 or not
3. After you locked the bootloader did you slide the switch over in dev options
This is the first I heard anything like that happening. If this is a Google phone then you can certainly return it stating what happened. You bought a developer device and somehow it became a consumer phone. That sounds like a warranty return to me.
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1.) Bought directly from Google.
2.) Unlocked just after opening box and getting on Wi-Fi.
3.) Yes, after locking it, I enabled Dev Options and slid that slider back to locked stock status.
I basically ruined the phone for tinkering. Because it was locked, I could not go back to an Android version
that could be unlocked with depixel8.
michaelbsheldon said:
I should mention that I made a USUnlocked Pixel XL be never unlockable again.
Before putting in a VZN sim, I unlocked it. Sometime after, I got tired of the warning on boot-up and locked it.
The Verizon sim or the Google Verizon Image greyed out the Developer's Option of Unlock bootloader choice.
Forever. There was no way to get that icon to become alive again. So, the VZN sim or the VZN image will not relock
your phone, but it for sure prevents you from locking and unlocking it again. Felt like an idiot for relocking.
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michaelbsheldon said:
1.) Bought directly from Google.
2.) Unlocked just after opening box and getting on Wi-Fi.
3.) Yes, after locking it, I enabled Dev Options and slid that slider back to locked stock status.
I basically ruined the phone for tinkering. Because it was locked, I could not go back to an Android version
that could be unlocked with depixel8.
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This is concerning. So does this mean a Verizon SIM permanently locks all Pixel variants regardless whether it's a Google one or Verizon one?
michaelbsheldon said:
VZN sim or the VZN image will not relock your phone, but it for sure prevents you from locking and unlocking it again.
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If I were to buy an used non-VZW Pixel that was activated with VZW, then the bootloader is no longer unlockable (given that it's stock & locked) even if I'll be using it with another carrier?
DevADX said:
This is concerning. So does this mean a Verizon SIM permanently locks all Pixel variants regardless whether it's a Google one or Verizon one?
If I were to buy an used non-VZW Pixel that was activated with VZW, then the bootloader is no longer unlockable even if I'll be using it with another carrier?
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Yes, in my experience. But I’m just 1 gumbah on 1 phone.
Maybe someone with HTC knowledge can tell us..
michaelbsheldon said:
1.) Bought directly from Google.
2.) Unlocked just after opening box and getting on Wi-Fi.
3.) Yes, after locking it, I enabled Dev Options and slid that slider back to locked stock status.
I basically ruined the phone for tinkering. Because it was locked, I could not go back to an Android version
that could be unlocked with depixel8.
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So on your dev options under the grayed out oem unlock, what does it say? Depixel8 was only meant for Verizon phones not Google ones.
Have you tried calling Google? Because even on wifi only, no sim, you bought a device that you could unlock and develop with. Somehow that device malfunctioned and you deserve a replacement. It's as simple as that imo.
I don't believe this to be common. In fact I've never heard of this happening before.
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bobby janow said:
So on your dev options under the grayed out oem unlock, what does it say? Depixel8 was only meant for Verizon phones not Google ones.
Have you tried calling Google? Because even on wifi only, no sim, you bought a device that you could unlock and develop with. Somehow that device malfunctioned and you deserve a replacement. It's as simple as that imo.
I don't believe this to be common. In fact I've never heard of this happening before.
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Didn't call Google. It's now on a family T-Mobile line and still can't be unlocked. She likes it as it is.
michaelbsheldon said:
Didn't call Google. It's now on a family T-Mobile line and still can't be unlocked. She likes it as it is.
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I get that. I don't unlock my bootloader and I'm perfectly happy too.
But you are correct, it's ruined for tinkering. Think in the future for a few. What about when you get a new device for the family member and yourself. Now you have a great device you can play with to either test stuff or mess with new roms or images. But you can't.
Just sayin. But it's always good for a trade in. I'd love to hear if this has happened to anyone else.
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I got a Google pixel 2 xl from a friend of mine, and I'm trying to unlock the bootloader on the latest 8.1 Ota but no matter what I tried it does not work the option in dev is greyed out I also attempted commands from bootloader itself and still kept saying device already locked... Will I not be able to unlock the bootloader at all? I also factory reset afew times still nothing.
Is it a Verizon or Google device? If it's a Verizon device, then you may be out of luck. From what I've read, the bootloader cannot be unlocked on Verizon devices.
Face_Plant said:
Is it a Verizon or Google device? If it's a Verizon device, then you may be out of luck. From what I've read, the bootloader cannot be unlocked on Verizon devices.
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It must be Verizon.. I've tried everything I can.. No luck. This Is very rediciolous.. Sigh bought it for 575 64gb so maybe I'll look for a trade or whatnot
I have a dumb question. Do you have your SIM card in the phone and is it connected to the internet?
Turgur said:
I have a dumb question. Do you have your SIM card in the phone and is it connected to the internet?
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Yes it is I've tried the factory reset on wifi and sim option is still greyed out
If he got it from Best buy most likely it's a Verizon variant
You cant unlocked the bootloader I'm the Verizon variant.
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I'll buy it from you... if it's for sale!
is there a way to tell? I bought mine at target
umx said:
is there a way to tell? I bought mine at target
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Enable developer options and check if you can turn on OEM unlocking. If you can, it's the Google edition. If you've already unlocked the bootloader using fastboot commands and you haven't installed Magisk, the toggle will be grayed out but it will be stuck in the on position.
AFAIK all Pixels bought outside of the Google online store, including devices bought in Google pop-up stores, are the Verizon version but YMMV
umx said:
is there a way to tell? I bought mine at target
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Target ones are Verizon hence locked bootloader
Wait!
I also had this problem, try a factory reset and without setting a passcode or a fingerprint! That solved it for me
I also disabled the Find my Phone thing from the security settings.
AcidNoteZ said:
Wait!
I also had this problem, try a factory reset and without setting a passcode or a fingerprint! That solved it for me
I also disabled the Find my Phone thing from the security settings.
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That's not gonna help with a Verizon variant.
GokuSSJgod said:
That's not gonna help with a Verizon variant.
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I have one directly from Google and had the same issue.
Let him try it at least.
AcidNoteZ said:
I have one directly from Google and had the same issue.
Let him try it at least.
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Good idea, since there was a bug mentioned in this article: https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/21/google-fixes-disabled-bootloader-unlock-pixel-2-phones/ about this.
martyfried said:
Good idea, since there was a bug mentioned in this article: https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/21/google-fixes-disabled-bootloader-unlock-pixel-2-phones/ about this.
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He can try, but that bug only related to the Pixel 2, not the Pixel 2 XL.
uicnren said:
He can try, but that bug only related to the Pixel 2, not the Pixel 2 XL.
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Oh, you're right; I missed that.
darkfire404 said:
Enable developer options and check if you can turn on OEM unlocking. If you can, it's the Google edition. If you've already unlocked the bootloader using fastboot commands and you haven't installed Magisk, the toggle will be grayed out but it will be stuck in the on position.
AFAIK all Pixels bought outside of the Google online store, including devices bought in Google pop-up stores, are the Verizon version but YMMV
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Good info.
Does anyone know if the VZN Pixel (OG) would have Verizon apps installed? Is there no way to tell a Verizon Pixel from a Google store Pixel except for whether you can check OEM unlocking button?
FoneWatcher said:
Good info.
Does anyone know if the VZN Pixel (OG) would have Verizon apps installed? Is there no way to tell a Verizon Pixel from a Google store Pixel except for whether you can check OEM unlocking button?
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The Google ones don't come with any installed Verizon apps. However, once you plug in a Verizon sim card, then you may get a couple after you reboot.
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The Google ones don't come with any installed Verizon apps. However, once you plug in a Verizon sim card, then you may get a couple after you reboot.
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Appreciated.
Just to clarify, unless you install a Verizon SIM, then the Verizon apps are hidden?
Just got my pixel 3xl off eBay and it was listed as the Verizon edition. However when I go to developer options I'm able to toggle unlock the OEM unlocking option.
Don't in wanna get my hopes up, but does this mean I should be able to unlock my boot loader and root???
Sounds like you lucked out and got a Google model. Go for it.
spotmark said:
Sounds like you lucked out and got a Google model. Go for it.
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yeah that's what I'm thinking, cause on all my other pixels that option was always greyed out