Google Play Services - need to downgrade further, or to uninstall completely - Samsung Galaxy S9 Questions & Answers

I have an s9 snapdragon variant running 8.0, September 1st security patch. Downgrading firmware and rooting is a no go due to limitations on my device.
The lowest I can get to is 12.6.89 for my play services.
I always get "App not installed" when trying to install an older version. Package disabler pro won't even list Google play services to try and get rid of it as best as possible for a clean installation.
I've tried everything I could possibly think of. Surely someone has figured a work around for newer devices with no stock uninstall option, and uninstalling updates only going so far, right? There has to be something better... Am I missing anything? I'm willing to collaborate with others in finally fixing this

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HTC 10 APK Assistance required

I need a little help here, I have the unlocked variant of the phone that I'm using on T-Mobile. I use the my account app to keep track of my data usage and other things, the thing is that the latest version does not work properly. So I decided to go back to an older version of the application that works absolutely fine. Here's my question, is there any way that I can slightly modify the app so that it will not keep popping up in the play store letting me know that there is an update available? I know that I can disable auto updating of the application which I already have done but I would like to figure out if there's a way that I can get it to disappear from my apps list in Google play.
Any help with this would be tremendously appreciated
Titanium backup has a remove/detach from market option but that requires root.
the other option would be to resign the apk with a different key compile then then install it, it will still show the updates available on the play store but installing the update will fail
Diz said:
Titanium backup has a remove/detach from market option but that requires root.
the other option would be to resign the apk with a different key compile then then install it, it will still show the updates available on the play store but installing the update will fail
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I'd do that the last time I did stuff like that was with kitkat, any guides for doing it with marshmallow?

Why won't my S8+ update stock apps?

I'm confused about updating stock apps on my S8+. When I go to APKmirror, I can see that newer versions of apps are available like Messages, Camera, Bixby, etc... But my phone doesn't update to them. If I download the APKs and try manually installing them, I get error messages that it didn't work. I'm still under warranty for the phone with T-Mobile so I haven't rooted it and everything is stock aside from basic customizations.
What am I missing? Is there a way to force updates? Maybe a companion app that will do it for me?

Keep Play Certification with Unlocked Bootloader?

I had to completely wipe my phone since recently the battery life started tanking hard, and I couldn't figure out why. I decided to just start over from a clean slate, since I had the same configuration since I got the phone about a year or two ago (stock Android 9, unlocked, and rooted with Magisk and EdXposed).
I figured that I would flash the July image without wipe first, but the battery issue persisted. I then decided to just flash it with the wipe (after backing up data, of course), and the battery seemed to be a bit better while I was setting up.
The problem I'm now having is that my device seems to be missing Play Certification. I noticed this when I was unable to install Netflix from the Play Store (although Google Pay seemed to work fine?). I've tried flashing the image several times, and even tried older images, but I can't seem to keep Play Certification.
I tried locking the bootloader after flashing the July image, and that finally gave me Play Certification and I was able to download Netflix.
Obviously however, I need to keep an unlocked bootloader for other things too.
Is there any way to get Netflix (and Play Certification) to work with an unlocked bootloader?
Doesn't MagiskHide provide just what you're asking for? If you don't want to use Magisk, maybe try PeNoire's SafetyNet Spoofer which works without Magisk but still requires a custom recovery like TWRP.
nitrous² said:
Doesn't MagiskHide provide just what you're asking for? If you don't want to use Magisk, maybe try PeNoire's SafetyNet Spoofer which works without Magisk but still requires a custom recovery like TWRP.
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How would I get MagiskHide to work with Netflix without being able to install the app from the Play Store? Would enabling hide for the PS work, or do I need to sideload the app and then use Hide on the app?
Latiken said:
How would I get MagiskHide to work with Netflix without being able to install the app from the Play Store? Would enabling hide for the PS work, or do I need to sideload the app and then use Hide on the app?
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Netflix doesn't care about the existence of Magisk once it is already installed on your device. So don't get confused there. You're problem is with the Play Store, specifically with SafetyNet. One step at a time;
When you unlock your bootloader, you are going to fail some SafetyNet checks. This will result in a restricted Play Store, meaning, certain apps won't be visible to you. To circumvent that, you flash something like Magisk or PetNoire to hide your bootloaders state to SafetyNet checks. This will result in an unrestricted Play Store. Unlock, install Magisk or PetNoire and then you should be able to get unrestricted access to Play Store apps.
Unlock the bootloader of your device
Install the latest version of Magisk
MagiskHide should be enabled by default, if not:
Download and install PetNoir's SafetyNet Spoofer
nitrous² said:
Netflix doesn't care about the existence of Magisk once it is already installed on your device. So don't get confused there. You're problem is with the Play Store, specifically with SafetyNet. One step at a time;
When you unlock your bootloader, you are going to fail some SafetyNet checks. This will result in a restricted Play Store, meaning, certain apps won't be visible to you. To circumvent that, you flash something like Magisk or PetNoire to hide your bootloaders state to SafetyNet checks. This will result in an unrestricted Play Store. Unlock, install Magisk or PetNoire and then you should be able to get unrestricted access to Play Store apps.
Unlock the bootloader of your device
Install the latest version of Magisk
MagiskHide should be enabled by default, if not:
Download and install PetNoir's SafetyNet Spoofer
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I've tried this, but something seems to not be working, or I'm doing something wrong.
I have Magisk 19.3 installed, and I can see that MagiskHide was automatically enabled for ”com.google.android.gms.unstable" under Google Play services, but Play Store Certification still shows that my device isn't certified, and Netflix won't appear.
The SafetyNet check in MagiskManager passes, however, so I'm wondering if there's something else going on. I'm going to try the other suggested SafetyNet bypass.
EDIT: Installed the other Spoofer, and the Certification listing in the Play Store disappeared, but Netflix is still nowhere to be seen. I tried uninstalling all updates for the Store and clearing storage and cache, but still nothing.
Wondering if I should just sideload Netflix and see if it works fine.
EDIT2: After a few moments, the Play Store now says that my device is certified, but I'm still unable to find Netflix in the Store for some reason. Tried rebooting and clearing cache but still nothing.
Latiken said:
I've tried this, but something seems to not be working, or I'm doing something wrong.
I have Magisk 19.3 installed, and I can see that MagiskHide was automatically enabled for ”com.google.android.gms.unstable" under Google Play services, but Play Store Certification still shows that my device isn't certified, and Netflix won't appear.
The SafetyNet check in MagiskManager passes, however, so I'm wondering if there's something else going on. I'm going to try the other suggested SafetyNet bypass.
EDIT: Installed the other Spoofer, and the Certification listing in the Play Store disappeared, but Netflix is still nowhere to be seen. I tried uninstalling all updates for the Store and clearing storage and cache, but still nothing.
Wondering if I should just sideload Netflix and see if it works fine.
EDIT2: After a few moments, the Play Store now says that my device is certified, but I'm still unable to find Netflix in the Store for some reason. Tried rebooting and clearing cache but still nothing.
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You just need to install Netflix through apk, not playstore. it is working well
Latiken said:
I've tried this, but something seems to not be working, or I'm doing something wrong.
I have Magisk 19.3 installed, and I can see that MagiskHide was automatically enabled for ”com.google.android.gms.unstable" under Google Play services, but Play Store Certification still shows that my device isn't certified, and Netflix won't appear.
The SafetyNet check in MagiskManager passes, however, so I'm wondering if there's something else going on. I'm going to try the other suggested SafetyNet bypass.
EDIT: Installed the other Spoofer, and the Certification listing in the Play Store disappeared, but Netflix is still nowhere to be seen. I tried uninstalling all updates for the Store and clearing storage and cache, but still nothing.
Wondering if I should just sideload Netflix and see if it works fine.
EDIT2: After a few moments, the Play Store now says that my device is certified, but I'm still unable to find Netflix in the Store for some reason. Tried rebooting and clearing cache but still nothing.
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I'v been been having the same issue for about 5-6 months now with both Android 9 and 10. It was working fine on Pie and showing up in Google Play, but then after I flashed one of the monthly system images with a wipe, the app no longer showed up in the play store. And after I restored the most recent Netflix app at the time from a backup, it would constantly crash. I have all Google Play Services, Google Play and Netflix selected in Magisk hide. Google Play says my device is certified. Magisk SafetyNet test passes along with any SafetyNet test app. Logged out of my Google account, wiped data for Google Play, Google Play services and Netflix, rebooted and signed back in but still not showing up. Downloaded and installed the newest Netflix app from their site but I get an error stating the device is not supported with the app which clearly isn't the case.
Can you select this link and have it open in the Google Play app on your phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient&hl=en_US
It shows up for me but says in red font: "This app isn't compatible with your device anymore. Contact the developers for more info". Which I did...went back and forth with Google and Netflix for hours yesterday, but both of their support is completely useless.
The newest version of the app that works for me is version 6.26.1. You can download it here if you haven't already: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/netflix-inc/netflix/netflix-6-26-1-build-15-31696-release/
The only thing is how long is it going to continue to work. A future update will most likely break that version as well.
Have you made any progress since July?
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I'v been been having the same issue for about 5-6 months now with both Android 9 and 10. It was working fine on Pie and showing up in Google Play, but then after I flashed one of the monthly system images with a wipe, the app no longer showed up in the play store. And after I restored the most recent Netflix app at the time from a backup, it would constantly crash. I have all Google Play Services, Google Play and Netflix selected in Magisk hide. Google Play says my device is certified. Magisk SafetyNet test passes along with any SafetyNet test app. Logged out of my Google account, wiped data for Google Play, Google Play services and Netflix, rebooted and signed back in but still not showing up. Downloaded and installed the newest Netflix app from their site but I get an error stating the device is not supported with the app which clearly isn't the case.
Can you select this link and have it open in the Google Play app on your phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient&hl=en_US
It shows up for me but says in red font: "This app isn't compatible with your device anymore. Contact the developers for more info". Which I did...went back and forth with Google and Netflix for hours yesterday, but both of their support is completely useless.
The newest version of the app that works for me is version 6.26.1. You can download it here if you haven't already: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/netflix-inc/netflix/netflix-6-26-1-build-15-31696-release/
The only thing is how long is it going to continue to work. A future update will most likely break that version as well.
Have you made any progress since July?
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That's actually the exact same version of Netflix that I was able to get working, and I've been using it since July.
It works exactly as it should, but the resolution seems to be capped at 480p or 720p, as I notice a lot of blurriness. It's still usable, but I'm considering getting rid of Magisk and going to 10 to avoid these issues.
Reading on what you've done, it's exactly what I went through in July.
I'm not sure what's changed since prior to updating to another security patch, Netflix was working completely fine from the Play Store with Magisk.
Latiken said:
That's actually the exact same version of Netflix that I was able to get working, and I've been using it since July.
It works exactly as it should, but the resolution seems to be capped at 480p or 720p, as I notice a lot of blurriness. It's still usable, but I'm considering getting rid of Magisk and going to 10 to avoid these issues.
Reading on what you've done, it's exactly what I went through in July.
I'm not sure what's changed since prior to updating to another security patch, Netflix was working completely fine from the Play Store with Magisk.
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Yeah and also after a few minutes of watching a video, the screen dims like right before your phone auto-locks itself due to inactivity. So far the only way I was able to get it to show back up in Google Play was re-locking the bootloader, but that's not really an option for me since I want to stay rooted. But it really doesn't make any sense since all the SafetyNet compatibility tests pass and the device is certified. Maybe I'll try reaching out to the Magisk dev and see if he's willing to take a look into it.
giants8058 said:
Yeah and also after a few minutes of watching a video, the screen dims like right before your phone auto-locks itself due to inactivity. So far the only way I was able to get it to show back up in Google Play was re-locking the bootloader, but that's not really an option for me since I want to stay rooted. But it really doesn't make any sense since all the SafetyNet compatibility tests pass and the device is certified. Maybe I'll try reaching out to the Magisk dev and see if he's willing to take a look into it.
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I don't seem to have that screen dimming issue, so it's possible that something else is going on on your end for that.
It's possible that Netflix is able to detect root through some other way that's irrelevant to Google Play Protection. And it could also be a thing where the resolution is limited if you're not on the latest version.
If I do figure something out in the future, I'll be sure to post here again.
Latiken said:
I don't seem to have that screen dimming issue, so it's possible that something else is going on on your end for that.
It's possible that Netflix is able to detect root through some other way that's irrelevant to Google Play Protection. And it could also be a thing where the resolution is limited if you're not on the latest version.
If I do figure something out in the future, I'll be sure to post here again.
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I don't think the issue is because of being rooted, but instead the unlocked bootloader as it still doesn't show up after uninstalling Magisk or after a system image flash with wipe. Like I mentioned earlier, the only way I can get it to show in Google Play or have the newest version work when side loaded at this point is when the bootloader is locked. So if you don't mind not being rooted or being able to manually flash updates without a factory reset each time, just re-lock your bootloader (just remember to backup your data since it wipes your phone) and Netflix should work normally again.
But I'll be sure post here as well if I come across anything that works.
What you both need is to install/flash a custom kernel...
On top of many multiple things a custom kernel can do, one significant thing is to be able to mask root on many/most root detecting processes. When I first rooted 2 years ago, I couldn't get Google Pay to work because of the root detecting. I had inadvertently flashed a custom kernel, and was pleasantly surprised that Google Pay began to work (back then, but now more than a custom kernel is required).
The best general all-around custom kernel was called Flash, but that became EOL and stopped development, but one called Caesium was built based off of Flash and continued from there; even collaborated with the maker of Flash.
Give it a try, and see how it works wonders for both your issue (root detection) battery life, and even responsiveness of the system!
Hope this helps...
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What you both need is to install/flash a custom kernel...
On top of many multiple things a custom kernel can do, one significant thing is to be able to mask root on many/most root detecting processes. When I first rooted 2 years ago, I couldn't get Google Pay to work because of the root detecting. I had inadvertently flashed a custom kernel, and was pleasantly surprised that Google Pay began to work (back then, but now more than a custom kernel is required).
The best general all-around custom kernel was called Flash, but that became EOL and stopped development, but one called Caesium was built based off of Flash and continued from there; even collaborated with the maker of Flash.
Give it a try, and see how it works wonders for both your issue (root detection) battery life, and even responsiveness of the system!
Hope this helps...
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Thank you for the suggestion, I'll make sure to try this after updating to the latest Pie build. I'm sure that this will work, as I remember using a custom kernel last time that Netflix was working just fine for me.
I also just found a thread with a stock kernel infused with a SafetyNet patch that says that Netflix and other apps refused to work on unlocked bootloader devices because something trips in SafetyNet, leading me to believe that this is what me and @giants8058 have been experiencing.
I will let everyone know if this works later this week.
Latiken said:
Thank you for the suggestion, I'll make sure to try this after updating to the latest Pie build. I'm sure that this will work, as I remember using a custom kernel last time that Netflix was working just fine for me.
I also just found a thread with a stock kernel infused with a SafetyNet patch that says that Netflix and other apps refused to work on unlocked bootloader devices because something trips in SafetyNet, leading me to believe that this is what me and @giants8058 have been experiencing.
I will let everyone know if this works later this week.
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You have to flash a custom Kernel to hide bootloader unlock. After you flash the custom kernel the play store will still show as not being certified. You will have to force stop the play store then delete the cache and storage. When you reboot it will show that it is certified.
murphyjasonc said:
You have to flash a custom Kernel to hide bootloader unlock. After you flash the custom kernel the play store will still show as not being certified. You will have to force stop the play store then delete the cache and storage. When you reboot it will show that it is certified.
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I flash the August stock build along with the Sultan kernel (as I couldn't get Caesium or the SafetyNet patched kernel to flash), and followed your instructions, but my Play Store isn't showing my device as certified yet.
Is there something else I need to do?
Latiken said:
I flash the August stock build along with the Sultan kernel (as I couldn't get Caesium or the SafetyNet patched kernel to flash), and followed your instructions, but my Play Store isn't showing my device as certified yet.
Is there something else I need to do?
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1. Download TWRP 3.3.0 img file
2. Download TWRP 3.3.0 zip file (optional)
3. Download Magisk 19.3
4. Download kernel of choice. (I use Sultan)
5. Boot to fastboot
6. Boot to TWRP. (fastboot boot TWRP. Img) I shorten the file name to make it easier.
7. Flash kernel first if using Sultan
8. Flash TWRP zip. (optional)
9. Flash Magisk 19.3
10. Let phone boot then delete data/cache in play store.
11. Reboot phone
These are the steps I use. If I remember correctly there was a couple of versions of the play store that showed uncertified no matter what. The latest play store version is 16.5.15. I can confirm it works. I also hide Google Play services in Magisk hide but I don't think that's needed unless you want Google Pay to work.
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1. Download TWRP 3.3.0 img file
2. Download TWRP 3.3.0 zip file (optional)
3. Download Magisk 19.3
4. Download kernel of choice. (I use Sultan)
5. Boot to fastboot
6. Boot to TWRP. (fastboot boot TWRP. Img) I shorten the file name to make it easier.
7. Flash kernel first if using Sultan
8. Flash TWRP zip. (optional)
9. Flash Magisk 19.3
10. Let phone boot then delete data/cache in play store.
11. Reboot phone
These are the steps I use. If I remember correctly there was a couple of versions of the play store that showed uncertified no matter what. The latest play store version is 16.5.15. I can confirm it works. I also hide Google Play services in Magisk hide but I don't think that's needed unless you want Google Pay to work.
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Those steps are actually exactly what I did, but the certification label in the settings is missing, and Netflix won't appear.
If it means anything, I noticed that I actually had Sultan kernel installed before doing any of this, so it might be that the kernel isn't working on my end.
Latiken said:
Those steps are actually exactly what I did, but the certification label in the settings is missing, and Netflix won't appear.
If it means anything, I noticed that I actually had Sultan kernel installed before doing any of this, so it might be that the kernel isn't working on my end.
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Well...I can say, at least, that I am having the same experience as murphyjasonc and am able to get "Play Protect Certification" certified and I have an unlocked bootloader with root and even a custom recovery.
I would make sure you do as he suggests and at the very least disable or "uninstall updates" for the Play Store and Google Play Services. But, also, custom kernels are things that also need to be updated; so this might be the explanation on it no longer working. But I know you had recently reflashed Sultan, so it is rather puzzling that you are still having those issues.
Just making sure, you are using TWRP to install the latest version of those kernels, correct? Also, when you had ran the August patch, did you use the Full Factory version? Are you able to pass safetynet currently?
Hopefully retrying these will get things up and running...
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Well...I can say, at least, that I am having the same experience as murphyjasonc and am able to get "Play Protect Certification" certified and I have an unlocked bootloader with root and even a custom recovery.
I would make sure you do as he suggests and at the very least disable or "uninstall updates" for the Play Store and Google Play Services. But, also, custom kernels are things that also need to be updated; so this might be the explanation on it no longer working. But I know you had recently reflashed Sultan, so it is rather puzzling that you are still having those issues.
Just making sure, you are using TWRP to install the latest version of those kernels, correct? Also, when you had ran the August patch, did you use the Full Factory version? Are you able to pass safetynet currently?
Hopefully retrying these will get things up and running...
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I used the latest version of TWRP to install the August OTA patch, as well as to install the latest Sultan kernel.
I just ran a SafetyNet test in MagiskManager and it passed correctly.
Latiken said:
I used the latest version of TWRP to install the August OTA patch, as well as to install the latest Sultan kernel.
I just ran a SafetyNet test in MagiskManager and it passed correctly.
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Give this a try...
instead of the OTA, try the Full Factory version -- and be sure to remove the "-w" in the flash-all to keep your data intact -- and then, also, be sure to disable/"uninstall updates" for both the Google Play Store and the Google Play Services (you can enable it after disabling it of course). After that, boot up TWRP and flash the Sultan kernel and Magisk and see if you don't have the certification after all that.
If you don't know; you can't simply run the Full Factory .zip's in TWRP, so if you don't know how to do a Full Factory version, I can point you in the right direction...
Good luck!

[Help] Uninstalled Play services and never wrote down the variant code

Hi guys,
As the title stated I removed play services on a sm-j530f that I just rooted with magisk with intent on rolling back to 12.6.85 and I forgot to check which variant it is that I needed to install. Is there any way around this as I really don't want to hunt for the original firmware and start all over again.
I have tried wiping the phone but when I get to "checking for updates" during initialization setup it freezes I assume because there are no play services to handle the login system.
I am an idiot... I know...
Reinstalling OpenGapps
I think it is enough to reinstall opengapps. Go to opengapps.org and download the correct variant. From what I found out, the processor seems to be 64bit, so try the ARM64 variant. That should restore anything you broke.

[SOLVED] Is it possible to disable Play Store?

Dear All,
By any chance has any of you succeeded into disabling play store without being root?
It used to be possible on older phones I owned, but I am struggling to find a way to do so on my new RN8PRO option to disable is 'disabled'
I have read many of those threads here, might have missed the solution, please forgive me if I did, would appreciate if you could point me toward the solution.
I also used that java app to debloat phones by uninstalling/disabling what I had no use for and it worked fine with most of the apps, just not play store which was not even listed at all.
Yes I dont use play store, Apps I install I get from other means (F-Droid etc).
Thanks in advance.
Regards.
You can uninstall system apps through ADB / using fastboot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-8-pro/themes/adb-fastboot-tools-debloat-safe-list-t4012255
I'm not sure though if it's safe to uninstall play store.
Sounds to me you'd be better of with xiaomi.eu ROM and debloat as much as you like.
I have the 11.0.2.0 Global without Playstore running. Just deactivate or uninstall with adb "com.android.vending".
You can also still debloat the Google Play services "com.google.android.gms" and Google services framework "com.google.android.gsf" but this can cause problems with some apps that require the services.
You can use the Xiaomi ADB Fastboot tool for this, as the previous speaker mentioned. There you can add the apps you want to disable/uninstall via App Manager -> Add apps.
Thanks @donkyshot & @hmarder!
Actually I am using google play services, that's google play store I have no use for.
So what I had to do simply was to Add the app ing App Manager from the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot app "com.android.vending: Google Play Store" and disable from there (I prefer disabling those stuff to avoid dependencies problems afterward).
When I just get a new device I try to refrain myself from doing too many things I could not easily recover from, more especially If I am not 100% sure I want to keep the device or if I will return it.
That said I would have liked to have that one a bit earlier because from what I read it looks like xiaomi.eu stopped supporting this device right before I got it, and they removed links to ROMs even for stable Android Pie versions, I'll probably never be able to test those later on even If I would have probably liked to.
I'll try to find working links before they all go down....
Thx again for pointing me to the right direction.
Regards,
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