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About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?
blackplague1347 said:
About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?
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1-3mbps is pretty normal for me indoors with 2-3 bars of signal, with 4-5 or so outdoors with better signal. I can only pull down those crazy numbers of 10+ with HSPA+ late at night when the towers aren't as busy. I'm in a small town, but we've had HSPA+ for a good year or more now (heck, I was on Verizon when it was switched on, so I don't know exactly how long...). Maybe your network is still getting upgraded / installed and the process isn't done yet?
I'm on the T-mobile $30 plan, by the way. I've heard AT&T's HSPA+ can be significantly slower in some places, so that may be part of it?
if they just rolled out the towers a month ago and upgraded to HSPA+, I'm not at all surprised by those speeds.
Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
For an area that just now got hspa turned on when the rest of the country is getting LTE, those speeds you are describing seem perfectly normal.
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I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.
Ravynmagi said:
I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.
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True, location also plays a big role.
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I would be happy to get 6Mb down with AT&T in Austin. Max is about 3.1Mbps which I think is crap since we know it is capable of more. Interestingly, AT&T LTE in the same areas rock!
TJBunch1228 said:
Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
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Well that's also because T-Mobile has HSPA+ 42mbps deployed, and devices that can make use of it. Most AT&T devices are at best 21mbps capable, and not all of their towers are.
Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Winesnob said:
Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...
martonikaj said:
Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...
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...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.
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...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.
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"4g" in quotes, and OP specifically is talking about AT&T.
I'll have to run speedtest some more when I'm out of town and see what kind of numbers I can get. I would be interested to see what speeds a 3G phone gets in the same region as my "4G" Gnex (HSPA+ via AT&T, not LTE via Verizon).
Well, since the Force is out and the DT2 seems to completely lack dev support and rooting method, I am very seriously considering dumping VZW for TMo. Picked up a prepaid sim from 7-11 to test out tonight.
I live just over the river from NYC in NJ and commute to Bryant Park area daily for work. Will be periodically posting my impressions here. Plan on swapping SIMs for a few day to put TMo thru the ringer before pulling the trigger on an X-Force
So far working completely, both Voice & LTE. Not sure if I am getting VoLTE or true GSM Voice service, as I do not know of a way to test. I have been sitting comfortably on Band 4 for LTE when outside with 4 full bars of service. Inside my apartment, 4g is spotty with TMo (I live in a garden level place, half underground half above in a brownstone), however without band 12 present in the phone, I dont expect blazing or strong 4g signal indoors.
I do however get strong HSPA+ inside which has been pretty fast through basic web browsing and small app downloads.
What has blown me away is the speed of the TMo network, both HSPA and LTE. I took the following speedtests (same spot, swapping sims & letting connection settle). While it is harder to get 4G LTE inside with TMo and no band 12, when I do get it, the speed still BLOWS away VZW
Pic 1 - Verizon Indoor (foyer) - 4G LTE
Pic 2 - T-Mo Indoor (foyer) - HSPA +
Pic 3 - Verizon Outside - 4G LTE
Pic 4 - T-Mo Outside - 4G LTE
Pic 5 - T-Mo Inside front foyer - 4G LTE (verizon speed was same as previous outside pic)
Pic 6 - Verizon Inside on Couch (middle of apt) - 4G LTE
Pic 7 - TMo Inside on Couch (middle of apt) - 4G LTE
Got it from VZW BF promotion, thanks for your post. It does work for AT&T and T-Mobile, not sure for Sprint.
lwang9 said:
Got it from VZW BF promotion, thanks for your post. It does work for AT&T and T-Mobile, not sure for Sprint.
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Have been seeing similar results today while at work in nyc. My desk gets full 4-5 bars of 4g service with TMo. I am on the 8th floor of a brick building. Def thought reception would suck at my desk.
Ive had the same results today at my desk regarding speed tests.
So you had to do no unlocking,it worked out of the box?
rcmartin57 said:
So you had to do no unlocking,it worked out of the box?
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yep, 100% minus band 12. Not sure if band 12 can be unlocked. but has been working pretty sweet out of the box. simple sim swap
You guys think this would soon work with Google fi, now that would be nice . thanks for the info guys nice to know since I am limited to 18GB...
rcmartin57 said:
You guys think this would soon work with Google fi, now that would be nice . thanks for the info guys nice to know since I am limited to 18GB...
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I would think it would work partially... I would check what bands project fi uses
lwang9 said:
Got it from VZW BF promotion, thanks for your post. It does work for AT&T and T-Mobile, not sure for Sprint.
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It'll work on GSM carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T, US Cellular, etc.) but not Sprint since it's a CDMA network. Phones with CDMA radios are allowed onto a CDMA network via a code, and Sprint blocks codes from Verizon phones, and vice versa.
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It'll work on GSM carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T, US Cellular, etc.) but not Sprint since it's a CDMA network. Phones with CDMA radios are allowed onto a CDMA network via a code, and Sprint blocks codes from Verizon phones, and vice versa.
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Current generation iPhone and Nexus work with Sprint and Verizon both.
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Current generation iPhone and Nexus work with Sprint and Verizon both.
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That's because iPhones and Nexuses are unlocked phones by default. The Turbo 2 is a Verizon exclusive that happens to be SIM unlocked, so Sprint isn't going to accept it.
rcmartin57 said:
You guys think this would soon work with Google fi, now that would be nice . thanks for the info guys nice to know since I am limited to 18GB...
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It should work on the T-mo portion of Fi, with no switching to Sprint, obviously. Also no wi-fi calling afaik.
Where do you live? I have yet to see less then 60Mbs on Verizon. Hell I hit over 100 pretty often and stay around 75-80 for the most part.
bignazpwns said:
Where do you live? I have yet to see less then 60Mbs on Verizon. Hell I hit over 100 pretty often and stay around 75-80 for the most part.
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That is some great speed!!! No I was talking about my data cap of 18gb. I was thinking of getting a side prepaid sim for the extra data.
Please tell me how you did it
how did you get the turbo 2 to work on tmobile?
im in nyc and have turbo 2 on vzw and had an extra one as backup. a buddy in tampa florida using a galaxy s6 regular on tmo kept having issues with his fone. i sent him my backup which is exactly the same im using. he put his sim into the turbo without any problems and works fine. he gets no dropped calls for whatever reason. he thought he would miss his wifi calling but since the fone is better at reception all around he doesnt need the wifi calling and of course he has unlimited data using his Tmo sim and its on LTE . only thing he said he has missed is the turbo 2 doesnt have infrared for his samsuck tv and other controls he could have used via his galaxys infrared. hope this helps.
Bossn8v said:
how did you get the turbo 2 to work on tmobile?
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All Verizon LTE phones are network unlocked by order of the FCC ever since 2011, 2012. It was an "agreement" Verizon was forced to sign to get more LTE spectrum.
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/09/24/verizon-iphone-5-unlocked/
http://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy
VERIZON: We do not lock our 4G LTE devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier.
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It's old news. As long as a Verizon phone has the necessary LTE bands, it will work on any other LTE carrier.
Droid Turbo 2 has LTE bands 2,3,4,7,13. T-Mobile uses LTE bands 2,4,12. So, he's getting LTE bands 2,4.
ChazzMatt said:
All Verizon LTE phones are network unlocked by order of the FCC ever since 2011, 2012. It was an "agreement" Verizon was forced to sign to get more LTE spectrum.
It's old news. As long as a Verizon phone has the necessary LTE bands, it will work on any other LTE carrier.
Droid Turbo 2 has LTE bands 2,3,4,7,13. T-Mobile uses LTE bands 2,4,12. So, he's getting LTE bands 2,4.
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I'm assuming this means I could use my droid turbo 2 outside of the US and just swap in a local sim (and use LTE if those countries use 2,3,7 or 13)?
nebratu said:
I'm assuming this means I could use my droid turbo 2 outside of the US and just swap in a local sim (and use LTE if those countries use 2,3,7 or 13)?
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Yes. For countries without those bands you would rely upon HSPA or even GSM.
I'm using mine on Telstra in Australia with no issues. (Droid Turbo 2)
tomguymer said:
I'm using mine on Telstra in Australia with no issues. (Droid Turbo 2)
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What LTE bands does your carrier use? Info i found says 1, 3, 7, 8, 28. Droid Turbo 2 had two of those (3, 7), plus HSPA of course.
Has anyone ever seen 3 way carrier aggregation while using T-Mobile with Pixel XL or Pixel? I called T-Mobile support and they do not have an answer to whether or not it will utilize 3x aggregation. I personally have not seen it myself and I'm in an area where it is enabled. Network signal guru only shows 2x aggregation on my phone. Thanks to those who may know if 3x may be utilized with T-Mobile or possibly in the future
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Has anyone ever seen 3 way carrier aggregation while using T-Mobile with Pixel XL or Pixel? I called T-Mobile support and they do not have an answer to whether or not it will utilize 3x aggregation. I personally have not seen it myself and I'm in an area where it is enabled. Network signal ru only shows 2x aggregation on my phone. Thanks to those who may know if 3x may be utilized with T-Mobile or possibly in the future
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I think that it supports 256 QAM but not 4x4 MIMO. I think I read that the SD 821 is capable of 4x4 but I think it's missing other hardware like an amplifier or something. Im no expert but I try to read up on the tech and understand it. The other thing is that the pixel needs to be updated to activate 256 qam
treIII said:
Has anyone ever seen 3 way carrier aggregation while using T-Mobile with Pixel XL or Pixel? I called T-Mobile support and they do not have an answer to whether or not it will utilize 3x aggregation. I personally have not seen it myself and I'm in an area where it is enabled. Network signal guru only shows 2x aggregation on my phone. Thanks to those who may know if 3x may be utilized with T-Mobile or possibly in the future
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If I'm not mistaken only the T-Mobile variant of the LG V20 supports this at the moment.
treIII said:
Has anyone ever seen 3 way carrier aggregation while using T-Mobile with Pixel XL or Pixel? I called T-Mobile support and they do not have an answer to whether or not it will utilize 3x aggregation. I personally have not seen it myself and I'm in an area where it is enabled. Network signal guru only shows 2x aggregation on my phone. Thanks to those who may know if 3x may be utilized with T-Mobile or possibly in the future
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Can you explain how you're getting "Network Signal Guru" to show you current CA status? I've downloaded the app and I see no information on current aggregation status.
To my knowledge, There is no way of seeing active CA status on the Pixel XL. Or any phone for that matter outside of the known samsung field test app.
Using a Pixel XL on T-Mobile I've achieved a max download of about 114Mb/s. Which I suspect is only 2x aggregation.
I've achieved 147Mb/s on VZW with 2x Aggregation (I'm guessing 2x due to my Nexus 6p getting the same speeds. Which only supports 2x CA).
NickOlsen8390 said:
Can you explain how you're getting "Network Signal Guru" to show you current CA status? I've downloaded the app and I see no information on current aggregation status.
To my knowledge, There is no way of seeing active CA status on the Pixel XL. Or any phone for that matter outside of the known samsung field test app.
Using a Pixel XL on T-Mobile I've achieved a max download of about 114Mb/s. Which I suspect is only 2x aggregation.
I've achieved 147Mb/s on VZW with 2x Aggregation (I'm guessing 2x due to my Nexus 6p getting the same speeds. Which only supports 2x CA).
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Rooted?
If you give it root access, It's a completely different app. Awesome stuff with root.
N6P with Root
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/NSG-N6P.jpg
Pixel XL without Root
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/NSG-PXL.png
So since you guys turned me on to the Network Signal Guru app I did some testing.
I'm convinced the NSG app can't display Carrier Aggregation if it's on the same band. IE 2x CA 4+4 or 3x CA 4+4+12.
With my TMO sim in my Pixel XL, I got speedtests in excess of 100Mb/s. When those tests were ran, The most the app ever reported was 2x CA, Band 4 + Band 12.
The reason I'm convinced it doesn't display CA when it's on two band 4 channels is I ran speed tests >80Mb/s when it claimed I had one 20Mhz Band 4 channel. Which is a FAR reach for a single 20Mhz channel. With this being said. If you're ripping 100+ Mb/s speedtests, And it's showing 2x CA B4+B12, I'd suspect it's acutally 3x CA of B4+B4+B12. And the app just isn't reporting it correctly. Perhaps someone can post an NSG screenshot of it showing 2x B4 channels to prove me wrong.
Here's a screenshot of 1 B4/20Mhz carrier doing 73Mb/s
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PXL-TMO.png
I'll further comment to say that while the Pixel XL claims it'll support 256QAM, I never saw anything past 64QAM. So it's either not supported. Or not live in my area (Central Florida). We're all aware 4x4 MIMO is also not supported by the PXL.
While I was out and about. I also ran some testing with my primary SIM (Verizon Wireless).
Screenshot of ~109Mb/s on 3CA Band 2 (5Mhz) + Band 4 (20Mhz) + Band 13 (10Mhz) for a total channel width of 35Mhz
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PXL-3CA.png
And finally, The local tower that always gives me dumb speed test results. I always assumed it was 3x CA. It reports 2x (B4+B13). Meaning this serving cell is either super unloaded, Or once again, I'm not seeing a 2nd descrete B4 carrier. And it's actually doing 3x CA.
Screenshot of 2x CA doing ~140Mb/s
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PXL-2CA.png
NickOlsen8390 said:
So since you guys turned me on to the Network Signal Guru app I did some testing.
I'm convinced the NSG app can't display Carrier Aggregation if it's on the same band. IE 2x CA 4+4 or 3x CA 4+4+12.
With my TMO sim in my Pixel XL, I got speedtests in excess of 100Mb/s. When those tests were ran, The most the app ever reported was 2x CA, Band 4 + Band 12.
The reason I'm convinced it doesn't display CA when it's on two band 4 channels is I ran speed tests >80Mb/s when it claimed I had one 20Mhz Band 4 channel. Which is a FAR reach for a single 20Mhz channel. With this being said. If you're ripping 100+ Mb/s speedtests, And it's showing 2x CA B4+B12, I'd suspect it's acutally 3x CA of B4+B4+B12. And the app just isn't reporting it correctly. Perhaps someone can post an NSG screenshot of it showing 2x B4 channels to prove me wrong.
Here's a screenshot of 1 B4/20Mhz carrier doing 73Mb/s
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PXL-TMO.png
I'll further comment to say that while the Pixel XL claims it'll support 256QAM, I never saw anything past 64QAM. So it's either not supported. Or not live in my area (Central Florida). We're all aware 4x4 MIMO is also not supported by the PXL.
While I was out and about. I also ran some testing with my primary SIM (Verizon Wireless).
Screenshot of ~109Mb/s on 3CA Band 2 (5Mhz) + Band 4 (20Mhz) + Band 13 (10Mhz) for a total channel width of 35Mhz
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PXL-3CA.png
And finally, The local tower that always gives me dumb speed test results. I always assumed it was 3x CA. It reports 2x (B4+B13). Meaning this serving cell is either super unloaded, Or once again, I'm not seeing a 2nd descrete B4 carrier. And it's actually doing 3x CA.
Screenshot of 2x CA doing ~140Mb/s
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PXL-2CA.png
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256 QAM went live nationwide in October. According to Tmo the only devices that can utilize it is the gs 7 and gs7 edge. We know the pixel can do it the problem is we need for it to be able to access it on T-Mobiles network. I'm also central Florida
Smallsmx3 said:
256 QAM went live nationwide in October. According to Tmo the only devices that can utilize it is the gs 7 and gs7 edge. We know the pixel can do it the problem is we need for it to be able to access it on T-Mobiles network. I'm also central Florida
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Interesting! I bet they're doing something IMEI based identification of the S7 / S7E that allows it to run a different IMS barer that will run at up to 256QAM. I also suspect this is downlink path only. As in my testing, I never topped 16QAM on uplink (Both TMO and VZW).
I wonder if they have a different APN. Anyone have an S7/S7E that can confirm they have the normal fast.tmo APN?
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Interesting! I bet they're doing something IMEI based identification of the S7 / S7E that allows it to run a different IMS barer that will run at up to 256QAM. I also suspect this is downlink path only. As in my testing, I never topped 16QAM on uplink (Both TMO and VZW).
I wonder if they have a different APN. Anyone have an S7/S7E that can confirm they have the normal fast.tmo APN?
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According to the article I read support for those devices were coming via software update. And it's only download. Upload was 64 QAM. I'll see if I can find the article.
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Here https://www.wirelessweek.com/news/2016/09/t-mobile-touts-launch-4x4-mimo-256-qam
NickOlsen8390 said:
Interesting! I bet they're doing something IMEI based identification of the S7 / S7E that allows it to run a different IMS barer that will run at up to 256QAM. I also suspect this is downlink path only. As in my testing, I never topped 16QAM on uplink (Both TMO and VZW).
I wonder if they have a different APN. Anyone have an S7/S7E that can confirm they have the normal fast.tmo APN?
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I just contacted Google about this. They said this was coming with the next update. So if we're getting 7.1.1 in a couple days I guess we'll find out
Smallsmx3 said:
I just contacted Google about this. They said this was coming with the next update. So if we're getting 7.1.1 in a couple days I guess we'll find out
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I also called them and they said to me that it was all depended on T-Mobile. So it's strange that they would give to others who have called a different answer.
treIII said:
I also called them and they said to me that it was all depended on T-Mobile. So it's strange that they would give to others who have called a different answer.
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This is because your average rep has no idea what you're talking about. And their script doesn't have any resources to help them answer. You could call three times and get three different answers. Being that TMO pushed a software update to enable it on the S7/S7E, I would argue they would have to do the same to the pixel/pixel xl. Which probably means they would need a TMO specific build. And I just don't see that happening personally.
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So since you guys turned me on to the Network Signal Guru app I did some testing.
I'm convinced the NSG app can't display Carrier Aggregation if it's on the same band. IE 2x CA 4+4 or 3x CA 4+4+12.
With my TMO sim in my Pixel XL, I got speedtests in excess of 100Mb/s. When those tests were ran, The most the app ever reported was 2x CA, Band 4 + Band 12.
The reason I'm convinced it doesn't display CA when it's on two band 4 channels is I ran speed tests >80Mb/s when it claimed I had one 20Mhz Band 4 channel. Which is a FAR reach for a single 20Mhz channel. With this being said. If you're ripping 100+ Mb/s speedtests, And it's showing 2x CA B4+B12, I'd suspect it's acutally 3x CA of B4+B4+B12. And the app just isn't reporting it correctly. Perhaps someone can post an NSG screenshot of it showing 2x B4 channels to prove me wrong.
Here's a screenshot of 1 B4/20Mhz carrier doing 73Mb/s
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PXL-TMO.png
I'll further comment to say that while the Pixel XL claims it'll support 256QAM, I never saw anything past 64QAM. So it's either not supported. Or not live in my area (Central Florida). We're all aware 4x4 MIMO is also not supported by the PXL.
While I was out and about. I also ran some testing with my primary SIM (Verizon Wireless).
Screenshot of ~109Mb/s on 3CA Band 2 (5Mhz) + Band 4 (20Mhz) + Band 13 (10Mhz) for a total channel width of 35Mhz
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PXL-3CA.png
And finally, The local tower that always gives me dumb speed test results. I always assumed it was 3x CA. It reports 2x (B4+B13). Meaning this serving cell is either super unloaded, Or once again, I'm not seeing a 2nd descrete B4 carrier. And it's actually doing 3x CA.
Screenshot of 2x CA doing ~140Mb/s
http://cdn.141networks.com/images/PXL-2CA.png
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Hey there, here is NSG on my Pixel showing 2xCA of B4+B4.
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I have a location in town that does B2+B4+B4 on a V20. My Pixel will not do 3xCA at that location, just 2xCA of B2+B4 or B4+B4. I will verify the V20 with NSG again when I get my hands on one. I only used the built-in engineering mode on the V20 at the time.
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Hey there, here is NSG on my Pixel showing 2xCA of B4+B4.
I have a location in town that does B2+B4+B4 on a V20. My Pixel will not do 3xCA at that location, just 2xCA of B2+B4 or B4+B4. I will verify the V20 with NSG again when I get my hands on one. I only used the built-in engineering mode on the V20 at the time.
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I had a feeling that 3x CA didn't work. Another feature of the phone that's not activated. I'm sure something needs to be updated by Google to access this on Tmos network. I'm having Volte issues on TMO with mine. T-Mobile support just tells me to disable it.
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cstark27 said:
Hey there, here is NSG on my Pixel showing 2xCA of B4+B4.
I have a location in town that does B2+B4+B4 on a V20. My Pixel will not do 3xCA at that location, just 2xCA of B2+B4 or B4+B4. I will verify the V20 with NSG again when I get my hands on one. I only used the built-in engineering mode on the V20 at the time.
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I wonder if this is what you're talking about. Pixel only supports 2x2 mimo.
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I wonder if this is what you're talking about. Pixel only supports 2x2 mimo.
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The 2x2 MIMO listed there is in reference to the Wi-Fi capabilities of the phone. The Snapdragon 821 uses the Snapdragon X12 modem which, according to Qualcomm's site supports 3x20 MHz carrier aggregation, 256-QAM, and 4x4 MIMO on one carrier.
Alcolawl said:
The 2x2 MIMO listed there is in reference to the Wi-Fi capabilities of the phone. The Snapdragon 821 uses the Snapdragon X12 modem which, according to Qualcomm's site supports 3x20 MHz carrier aggregation, 256-QAM, and 4x4 MIMO on one carrier.
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What carrier does it support 4x4?
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What carrier does it support 4x4?
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It doesn't; While the phones x12 modem DOES support 4x4 MIMO and 256QAM, It lacks the hardware (Something about an amplifier and antenna array for 4x4 MIMO). 256QAM is only supported on one of the foreign carriers to my knowledge right now. But They claim it will be enabled on the phone for use with TMO in some future update.
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Hey there, here is NSG on my Pixel showing 2xCA of B4+B4.
I have a location in town that does B2+B4+B4 on a V20. My Pixel will not do 3xCA at that location, just 2xCA of B2+B4 or B4+B4. I will verify the V20 with NSG again when I get my hands on one. I only used the built-in engineering mode on the V20 at the time.
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Don't know what happened to my first reply here. So sorry if this is a double post.
I did find that NSG shows 2xCA of the same channel (Found out with a Sprint SIM, B41+B41). And as in my post above. Apparently the Pixel has 3xCA issues with TMO and TMO only.
Golf c said:
I wonder if this is what you're talking about. Pixel only supports 2x2 mimo.
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I'll admit I'm not well versed in MIMO tech (and have seen the other reply about the Wifi spec), but I have seen others report their device does 3xCA on other carriers: Cricket , VZW/ATT
NickOlsen8390 said:
I did find a few days after posting this that it can show same channel CA. Did so with Sprint B41+B41.
It would appear that the Pixel is having 3XCA issues on TMO. There's a reddit thread about it right now actually https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/5qul7p/3x_carrier_aggregation_on_pixel/
TMO Engineer stated that in the lab, With a TMO SIM in the phone. It doesn't report itself as being 3x capable to the serving cell.
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Yep, that's me (the OP of the Reddit thread) I also started a support thread on the product forums if anyone has any experience to lend to the discussion. https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/phone-by-google/C04ACMHAYX8/mKs9CKAdDAAJ
Hi,
Bought S10+ in INDIA yesterday however i saw low/less network bars hence i checked the signal strength for comparison.
To my surprise, this was a known bug on "some" S10+ hence i should request for a replacement from Samsung but i need to be sure before Samsung acknowledges. No call drops recorded as of now.
I get -78 to -84 dBM on Pixel while i am getting -81 to -91dBM on S10+. (using same location for comparison)
Also, i used to get LTE on my PIXEL XL and now i get 4G sign on S10+
Does anyone compared the network strength with their old phones or am i the only one facing this network issue on S10+?
kanav1234 said:
Hi,
Bought S10+ in INDIA yesterday however i saw low/less network bars hence i checked the signal strength for comparison.
To my surprise, this was a known bug on "some" S10+ hence i should request for a replacement from Samsung but i need to be sure before Samsung acknowledges. No call drops recorded as of now.
I get -78 to -84 dBM on Pixel while i am getting -81 to -91dBM on S10+. (using same location for comparison)
Also, i used to get LTE on my PIXEL XL and now i get 4G sign on S10+
Does anyone compared the network strength with their old phones or am i the only one facing this network issue on S10+?
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I also have a problem
maharshi8 said:
I also have a problem
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nevermind
Huigie said:
nevermind
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Do you see any improvements post updates?
Regarding the LTE and 4G symbol, that's probably because India doesn't have real LTE yet. It's basically glorified HSPA+ and carriers are bsing everyone.
Here in the US I get LTE, but when I took this phone to New Delhi, India and popped in my Vodafone Sim card, I only received LTE in parts of New Delhi (speeds up to 40mbps/40mbps), other parts it was 4G (speeds up to 10mbps/2mbps). So that's that regarding the symbols, pixel probably didn't have a differentiation between either connections and labeled it as LTE.
Download LTE Discovery, it will tell you which exact bands you are connected to, you can pop your sim card back into the Pixel for comparison.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/t-mobile-google-pixel-6-5g-faster-speed_id137167
According to a report by AndroidPolice, U.S. mobile carrier T-mobile plans to bring even faster lightning 5G connection speeds to the Google Pixel 6 handset, with the arrival of next year.
The speed boost will come to both the Pixel 6 and the Pixel 6 Pro, and was actually first discovered by a fan of the publication who decided to check out the modem log of his own daily driver, the Pixel 6. Both members of the Pixel 6 series carry Samsung's in-house Exynos 5123b wireless connection modem, which was freshly released this year.
The modem log, which he has since submitted and is hosted on 4G/5G Bands & Combos, simply revealed the way that the modem handled both uplink and downlink traffic, employing various channels on multiple different bands of the spectrum. This is known as carrier aggregation, or CA, because use of the available resources is simply optimized to allow for a higher data rate per each cell.
The website 4G/5G Bands & Combos serves to list just such data, which is based on real logs from on-board smartphone modems—since a smartphone or modem maker will never actually tell you their supported combinations for 4G or 5G carrier aggregation as part of your device specs; they simply show you a 4G/5G support category number, and leave it at that.
The new log, when contrasted against the previous one from October, contains a new carrier aggregation combination for two of the 5G bands: n71 and n41. According to AndroidPolice's sleuthing, these are actually a direct match to two of T-Mobile's airwaves, 600 MHz and 2.5 GHZ. T-Mobile has apparently been testing carrier aggregation on these airwaves since 2020, and plans to send it live in 2022.
When T-Mobile finally turns on its 5G network carrier aggregation next year, the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro—which already feature millimeter wave 5G reception—will be all set to boost their wireless connection speeds to even higher limits than before.
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roirraW edor ehT said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/t-mobile-google-pixel-6-5g-faster-speed_id137167
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It's already pretty fast.
bouchigo said:
It's already pretty fast.
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600 Mbps?! Jesus .... I'm lucky if I break 100 Mbps where I'm at.
Fast enough already for me as well
scott.hart.bti said:
600 Mbps?! Jesus .... I'm lucky if I break 100 Mbps where I'm at.
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It just depends where you are at. Those speeds are at my home. I've seen speeds of over 800 Mbps in certain areas where I live, and speeds of about 200 Mbps in others. I've seen others, in different places (somewhere in the east coast) get over 1 Gbps.
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600 Mbps?! Jesus .... I'm lucky if I break 100 Mbps where I'm at.
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I'm lucky if I break 20Mbps. All of us people living in densely populated areas struggle with the speeds being slower than molasses sliding down a tree in the Arctic lol.
Thought I'd just drop in and say I managed to get this speed today with my 6 Pro whilst stopped at the traffic lights in my CBD area (Telstra 5G network in Adelaide, South Australia).
Must have been a really good sweet spot as never seen those speeds before! (My previous record was 700-800Mbps at my workplace with my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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Thought I'd just drop in and say I managed to get this speed today with my 6 Pro whilst stopped at the traffic lights in my CBD area (Telstra 5G network in Adelaide, South Australia).
Must have been a really good sweet spot as never seen those speeds before! (My previous record was 700-800Mbps at my workplace with my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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Wow- the best I have gotten is a little over 800Mbs
That's it.... Time to show you guys what's up. 25 Mbps... Beat that! Lol.
It would've been nice if these sites properly credited me for the modem logs.
*looking at XDA in particular*
I've also since proven that the NR-CA works at a live site on Long Island. One of the quickest turnarounds I've ever done for testing.
Texan1 said:
Thought I'd just drop in and say I managed to get this speed today with my 6 Pro whilst stopped at the traffic lights in my CBD area (Telstra 5G network in Adelaide, South Australia).
Must have been a really good sweet spot as never seen those speeds before! (My previous record was 700-800Mbps at my workplace with my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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Holy ****!!! I've only had my phone less than a week and I live in NYC but the fastest I've got was about 500Mbps, with an average of 200
I just tested my ip13 on tmo 5g UC 600-700dl 60up
They just upgraded the tower across the street where I live
My pixel 6 pro is with Big Red
given verizon is not that great at my house and tmo just upgraded.. may be time for "Keep and switch" promo over to tmobile.
mofoliar said:
I just tested my ip13 on tmo 5g UC 600-700dl 60up
They just upgraded the tower across the street where I live
My pixel 6 pro is with Big Red
given verizon is not that great at my house and tmo just upgraded.. may be time for "Keep and switch" promo over to tmobile.
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Wise move! I switched years ago and have never looked back!
New highest speed for me! In the suburbs this time, not far from a tower.
I'm on T-Mobile and I constantly have signal issues
State.of.mind said:
I'm on T-Mobile and I constantly have signal issues
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Where at? Not to bad here in southern Nevada.
galaxys said:
Where at? Not to bad here in southern Ne
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I'm in Central PA
question: has anyone used their p6p from verizon on tmobile and have 5G UC work? I can seem to find a Real answer.