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I'm interested to know how likely ZL owners are to buy another Sony phone in the future, based on their experience with the phone.
Consider build quality, frequency of firmware updates, reliability of software, etc.
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Would buy another...
I'm satisfied with the ZL. My only complaint is about the poor viewing angles, but despite that, I'd surely buy another Sony.
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With good cam and better screen, definitely yes!
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Coming from a SGN and seeing my wife's SG3, I would buy Sony again. It has less bloatware and better build than Samsung. Very happy with the phone.
galaxy s4 vs xperia zl
I got 2 phones here gt i9500 and xperia zl. I thought my exynos octa core phne wil b blazing fast compared to Xperia zl but it is slower lag and have many bugs.
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I'm interested to know how likely ZL owners are to buy another Sony phone in the future, based on their experience with the phone.
Consider build quality, frequency of firmware updates, reliability of software, etc.
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Yes any time,looking forward for ZR
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Absolutely yes!
It has a good build quality, feels like a phone and not like a piece of plastic. It looks and feels very elegant and not like a toy. Except facebook there is very few bloatware, and the UI is simple, but smooth.
Frequency of updates is ok for me, because there are no major bugs in the software. I'm coming from LG Optimus 2x, believe me, LG sucks compared to sony. The software has lots of bugs and there are no updates. Without the great support of the xda community I would have sould my 2x way earlier.
But I am still waiting for 4.2, not because I am missing something, but because sony promised to deliver it soon after launch...
So at the moment I definitley would buy another sony.
Im having good experiences with my ZL.. although compared to the SGNote2 has a better wifi range, smooth UI and louder speaker.. But its also have much more bloatware that eat rams a lot.. my friends SGNote2 stock rooted tweakes has only 330MB/++ free ram compared to my ZL.. has 1.2GB/++ free ram now.. With stock untouched..
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I think Sony has earned a lot of respect with the Z/ZL. Sure it has it's faults, but what phone doesn't? I was curious to see if I was the only one who has been "converted". As long as Sony keeps making good phones I will buy them.
The ZL is my first Sony phone, I'd happily buy another. I feel like Sony's finally on the right path, they've gone from completely reworking the Android UI to a very minimalistic change or two, not like Samsung and HTC who still feel they need to re-write the OS.
Also, I liked how easy it was to flash a stock generic rom, got rid of the Bell bloatware the 2nd day i had it.
I had only Ericsson phones, then Sony Ericsson ones (in between one Nokia) and now first Sony i.e. Xperia ZL, and was very happy with all of them I still remember my first GA628 from late'90 ... Neither one did not need servicing. Very durable phones:good:
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I had only Ericsson phones, then Sony Ericsson ones (in between one Nokia) and now first Sony i.e. Xperia ZL, and was very happy with all of them I still remember my first GA628 from late'90 ... Neither one did not need servicing. Very durable phones:good:
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Wow, I feel so old I actually remember those phones
I certinaly would, but I wish the earpiece was louder. I can't hear anything!
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I certinaly would, but I wish the earpiece was louder. I can't hear anything!
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You know now that you said something, I learned that call volume isn't just controlled when in the call but also the ringer volume. It could be a bug, but I notice significantly higher call volume when my ringer is turned all the way up.
Yes. Been with Sony Ericsson/Sony since "K" series.
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This is my first Sony phone. So far very happy with the phone best since hd2. Build quality way better than Samsung. Not sure about how frequently Sony releases firmware upgrades.
I would. This is my first sony android phone (first Sony since the t68i).
I came from the LGOG E970 which I replaced mostly because I wanted AWS Bands. My timing meant I was choosing between this, HTC and Samsung. I decided for a variety of reasons to give the ZL a shot. I bought a white 6502 (Cincinnatti Bell) which I unlocked. This allowed me to get the phone for a great price (130 more than where I sold the LG OG).
Here are my reasons:
Compared to my 4.7" OG, the ZL has a bigger screen, and is the same size to smaller in every dimension but thickness. Having used a blockly phone, I decided I'd rather have the back's curve and thickness. I hated the glass back on the OG so having a comfortable back
The HTC is too metally to feel comfortable. It is also too tall for a 4.7" phone. I also use a 64gb microSD
The SGS4 seems fine. I had the SGS3. If I had gotten the SGS4, I would have replaced the battery cover with a non-oem cover.
The ZL met my desire to at least match every spec my old phone had. I don't know if I'll keep this phone past the Snapdragon 800s/Tegra 4s but frankly, I probably wouldn't keep a snapdragon 600 once the 800 is released.
Since getting the phone, it has been fine. I put on the custom .253 rom, did not unlock the bootloader and have taken the onscreen buttons to 25px. It took a week for the battery life to normalize (for the first week, the phone battery was awful... then it seemed to normalize to an acceptable level). The phone/calendar apps seem good. I used album and walkman on my old phone so there was no learning curve to sony's superior apps (Ironically, my Google Music unlimited membership has cost walkman it's default status). It holds a bluetooth connection with my car better than the last 5 phones I've had. Now what has been the surprise is the camera. I was at my wife's birthday party (nighttime restaurant visit with family) and randomly gave the phone to take a picture on superior auto with her iphone 5. All of a sudden, I realized this is an amazing camera/app combination for both no-flash night and short range flash photography.
Things I love: Screen, small size, camera, not seeing 50 of these everyday.
Things I wish it had... 180 degree rotation (the charger port location makes me want to use the phone upside down on my desk), adjustable vibration levels (would like to use touch vibrations but softer). LG's setting to tone down the processor for battery life.
Things that annoy me: I can't get the noise suppression/speaker enhancement settings to stick after reboot. I don't know whether unlocking my bootloader is worth it (custom Kernels). I think sony's launcher is slow and use Nova's instead (I'd used stock launchers on every phone I'd owned)
The ZL is great fopr my needs, though the call quality is the worst I've ever heard. I've tried other phones in the shops, everyone is better :/
Yes I would buy other one! great phone great design! few little things here and there but love it!
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It is August 3 2013 and this phone has been out for a little while now. I am looking for a new phone because I need to switch carriers. I currently have a Galaxy Note 2 and I absolutely love it. I see that Sony announced they will update it to 4.3. The screen is only 0.5" smaller then my Note 2. The Sony has a higher resolution though. The battery life doesn't seem to be a problem for most of you (I checked the battery thread). Do all of you who currently own the Sony absolutely love the phone? Do you wish you tried a different phone? I love the look of the phone.
I am stuck between the Galaxy S4, HTC one, and this ZL. The S4 seems to have a ton of bloatware that I will never use but since the Google edition was announced, I might be able to flash a stock version of android on it once they figure out the battery drain issue. Same goes for the HTC one. I love the Sony for no apparent reason. It looks like a decent phone on paper and I remember reading about how Sony is really making an effort to help out developers. They also seem to keep updating this phone (4.2.2 and 4.3).
I need to decide soon so I appreciate any responses!
Edit** was this phone really just released 4 months ago? For some reason I thought it was older.
It's your decision of course and nobody here can really make that decision for you... it's a very subjective topic and you will get 100 different "answers".
However, I'll give you my highly subjective and personal opinion... for what it's worth.
I have both the Z and ZL, a GS3 and have had an HTC One. The GS3 is a reliable and usable phone that is easy to mod. It does everything well, except the screen is really unreadable outside. The 2 particular key points for me on phones, other than the ability to function reliably as a phone, are a good notification LED and a decent FM radio. The Radio is quite passable on the GS3. I bought an HTC One to replace the GS3 and was both impressed by some aspects and seriously disappointed by others. The notification LED is a joke and the FM radio was chronically insensitive to the point of being worthless. Plus the speaker grilles didn't fit correctly. It lasted a week and then got returned.
The GS4 doesn't have an FM radio... pathetic discrimination
Anyway, on to Sony...
The Z was bought in lieu of the H1. I've always liked Sony and SE phones, they are designed in Scandinavia and it shows, certainly in the electronic design and qualification. I also bought the ZL whilst on a business trip in Germany a week or two later. Both phones are great, but I prefer the ZL - because it is physically smaller (thicker but nicer to hold), has a better screen (higher brightness and contrast plus better viewing angles), no flaps to mess about with, the Sony logo is on the phone not the ASF (gives you more options) and has a slightly better notification LED. The FM radio is fantastic on both, although for some reason the Z is more sensitive, by about 10% I reckon. I also prefer the easy access SIM and SD card slots. The loudspeaker on the ZL is not restricted by waterproofing and is thus a fair bit louder...
So for me, the ZL is my phone of choice. It does everything I need and well. Sony are quick with updates and there are no obvious bugs. The UI is rather less "Noddy" than TW and less intrusive than Sense. The call quality is excellent too, in case you need to use it as a phone!!!
So it's down to what is important to you...
That was a awesome post very informative of different phones. I just got a zl to replace my broken HTC one xl and I love it I'm a big Sony fan they make solid products and I've never had a issue and when I have Sony has been quick to respond. It's a good choice
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It's honestly a great phone and highly underrated. Maybe it is a very polarizing phone, in that some hate it while others absolutely love it.
Well it's down to what your needs are.
For custom roms development support go for either Htc one or S4.
For sound Htc one.
For screen brilliance HTC One or possibly S4. Zl screen looks washed out and very poor viewing angles.
Camera. ZL or S4.
Memory Zl or S4.
Smoothness UI Htc one.
Design HTC one.
Speed HTC One or S4.
Notification light ZL or S4.
Premium build HTC One.
For me it has to be HTC One.
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Well it's down to what your needs are.
For custom roms development support go for either Htc one or S4.
For sound Htc one.
For screen brilliance HTC One or possibly S4. Zl screen looks washed out and very poor viewing angles.
Camera. ZL or S4.
Memory Zl or S4.
Smoothness UI Htc one.
Design HTC one.
Speed HTC One or S4.
Notification light ZL or S4.
Premium build HTC One.
For me it has to be HTC One.
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Had someone offer me a HTC One + $50 the other day. I just don't see the appeal.
Which HTC One has...
4G (LTE)?
notification toggles?
support to microSD card, including SDXC (I still believe Sony will really fix it )?
Sony design?
Sony UI and Sony exclusive widgets?
full integration with Sony products (PS3, Bravia, Muteki, Music Unlimited...)?
movie player with BE2?
a full 5" screen almost to the edge of the bevel of the phone?
a 2013 main camera (against the 2009-compatible 4 Mpx from HTC one?)
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Which HTC One has...
4G (LTE)?
notification toggles?
support to microSD card, including SDXC (I still believe Sony will really fix it )?
Sony design?
Sony UI and Sony exclusive widgets?
full integration with Sony products (PS3, Bravia, Muteki, Music Unlimited...)?
movie player with BE2?
a full 5" screen almost to the edge of the bevel of the phone?
a 2013 main camera (against the 2009-compatible 4 Mpx from HTC one?)
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The One has LTE and notification toggles. To the OP. I switch phones A LOT so I've had all the big boys and I have to say the ZL is a really nice phone. The One is definitely a good competitor though. As for the S4 that has been my least favorite as it feels so cheap and i hate the home button. It all depends on personal preference but as for me I'll probably keep this for the next 2 months and then get the Moto X.
I think the answer depends on your timetable and perspective:
On 8/7, the LG G2 is going to be announed, which will be the first American-carrier snapdragon 800 phone. A month later, Samsung is expected to announce the Note 3 and a Galaxy S4 advanced. By the late fall, there should even be a Nexus 5.
Battery may not be a problem for us... but we don't have notes. We have small phones with giant screens and have (relatively) low standards like a phone lasting 12 hours on a charge rather than the Note's 2 day/no charge norm.
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I like the ZL (bought 3 months ago). It has met my needs pretty well. I find that it's easier to make a mistake flashing mods and have bootloops needing reflashes... compared to my Samsung experience. I dislike its bluetooth stack... as I have to disable wifi for it to facilitate phone calls in my car. I have a slight feeling of it being the stepchild of the Sony family, as the developer of the only kernel stopped supporting the phone (he never owned it) and the custom roms are not as numerous as the Xperia Z. I had an AT&T LG Optimus G (same processor, smaller screen, wider body) directly before it and the SGS3 before that. I don't wish I had the HTC One.
I have checked almost every review available on the internet and they all wish the device had better screen and camera.
The screen has poor viewing angles and camera is gainy in low light and looses focus even in bright light.
Well I don't want to base my idea totally on reviews, since they compare it with the best.
Will you guys recommend if the Screen and camera quality are at par with a high end phone, so that I can consider buying it?
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I have checked almost every review available on the internet and they all wish the device had better screen and camera.
The screen has poor viewing angles and camera is gainy in low light and looses focus even in bright light.
Well I don't want to base my idea totally on reviews, since they compare it with the best.
Will you guys recommend if the Screen and camera quality are at par with a high end phone, so that I can consider buying it?
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Trust me, screen quality is much much better after the Update. Camera vise its really improved. If i am at a party with friends its like they want me to click pics from my ZL and day light pics are just great.
Compression Issue has been fixed in HDR. So its less noisy in low light condition with HDR.(Really Improved)
close up i would prefer my ZL.
But macros are not that great.
New update increased screen responsiveness. Frankly speaking Its getting better in every update.
But Beware, in Some phones there seems to some sort of Microphone bug which i am facing right now.(software May be as it works in everything else like recording)
Happy with Sony Xperia ZL Using from Past 5 Months.
Price has also been reduced. so its a best buy as of now.
IMO,if you need phone that trending (more dev support),go for HTC One or S4,since it also have Google Edition
but here few advantage of ZL to me:
-compact size 5' screen: -it slightly thicker than z,but more compact,it have thin bezel (fit into my pocket)
-omnibalance design: -slightly curve on the back,which support better grip,not need for cover since it make from plactic (still look premium)
-don't have to worry to put with key in pocket (still you should at least use screen protector to prevent direct scratch)
-camera : hv 13mp back n 2mp front,can recorded full hd video,have hdr,and hv dedicated shutter key with 2 press mechanism
image captured viewed beautiful on the phone with bravia engine 2 on
-notification light: at bottom,look really premium to me
-hv expandable storage (compare to HTC One)
-hv ir blaster: can control tv (compare to xperia z)
-speaker: average to me (htc one better i think) but it still able to make me up in the morning (i'm a heavy sleeper xD )
the earphone include is good enough (but can't compare it with high end earphone)
-sony software that does matter : walkman,album,movie,etc- support BE2,xloud,clearphase equalizer,which make music better
disadvantage:
-highly under rated (less dev support,however most dev in xperia z do port to zl,we still hv CM,PAC support )
-camera apps takes some times to launch (about 1-2 sec)
-screen does hv limited viewing angles but still visible in bright sunlight (with the help of UI itself that mainly white/grey colour)
Last word: xperia ZL does not hv the hype of other phone such as HTC One or S4 but it does hv enough power to run almost any apps in the play store,moreover with gr8 support from sony,i believe you could stay in stock firmware for quite sometimes,i used to unlock my bootloader and use custom rom for a week (to do this make sure you read all FAQ first if you not used to sony devices) but i'm back to stock and i'm happy with what sony offer to me
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I have checked almost every review available on the internet and they all wish the device had better screen and camera.
The screen has poor viewing angles and camera is gainy in low light and looses focus even in bright light.
Well I don't want to base my idea totally on reviews, since they compare it with the best.
Will you guys recommend if the Screen and camera quality are at par with a high end phone, so that I can consider buying it?
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i suggest you bring ur current phone and compare it with zl at retail shop,i u satisfied then grab it,if not choose others,review is useful but sometimes the company hv push updates to the phone to fix/improve the problem appear,while review stay the same,for example we recently received updates that improve touch sensitivity,ram management,camera low-light performance,etc,the latest firmware changelog can be view here
Ya I wasn't really looking for a specific yes or no. I was looking for things like: are you happy with it? Things you like about it and things you dislike. Did you find out anything after you bought it that you wish you knew before you bought it?
I really wish I could wait for the Note 3 but I need the phone basically this week. I am not a heavy user so I am pretty sure the smaller battery in this phone will be fine. My current Note 2 is amazing though. I understand that there will always be a better phone that is out or coming out soon. The Sony zl is free at Rogers right now so if I hate it that much I can sell it and get a nexus 4 or something. I don't really care about custom roms that much anymore. I used to care more because my first android phone was an LG G2x and they never updated it so I had to rely on custom roms for upgrades. As long as Sony will update it for another year or 2 ill be happy.
htc one vs sony zl
After many reviews online, I could not decide between One and ZL, so I bought both on eBay for my personal evaluation but will sell the other one later. HTC One is very good phone, high contrast screen, hi-powered speakers and responsive touch (very good if you want to watch YouTube). But, my choice is Sony ZL. There are much talks on the internet about washed screen on ZL. Do not believe it and I tell you why. For some reasons Sony designers chose to use the theme with dark grey background and white letters which is easier for eyes for long time but losing on sensation of hi-contrast. However, if you can choose a dark theme, it will change the game. Also, latest updates for ZL tend toward black background. Really, do you think that Sony, that makes TVs, laptops and professional monitors can not make phone screens? The speakers of One is better but that does not apply for the speaker when you make a phone call, which is sensational for ZL with xLoud and noise canceling enhancements. Overall the ZL looks and feels much more modern with very thin bezel while the One feels like an upgrade from old one. I thought BraviaEngine is there for commercial reasons but its really good when you watch movies and videos.
ZL is a awesome device. Its that developers don't do anything currently. There is a dev kamarush who said if he get the device he will do the kernels. But he didn't have money AFAIK. Some1 should come and help the community. Looks like we gotta donate a device to a very well know xda member: suggestion - tonyp, slim_rick, pulser_q2 etc etc
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Never really understood the issues people are having with the screen. All the reviews made it out to look like it was the most horrible screen on a phone to date. That is simply not the case. Having came from a galaxy note 1 I can honestly say the screen is on par with it. The viewing angle issue is a joke and should be experienced first hand and not from some reviewer with his head stuck up his ass. Thank god I got this phone despite what the reviews said. I'd have missed out on a great device.
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Agree that the screen (as stated in my post above) is not at all bad. Better than the XZ
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Never really understood the issues people are having with the screen. All the reviews made it out to look like it was the most horrible screen on a phone to date. That is simply not the case. Having came from a galaxy note 1 I can honestly say the screen is on par with it. The viewing angle issue is a joke and should be experienced first hand and not from some reviewer with his head stuck up his ass. Thank god I got this phone despite what the reviews said. I'd have missed out on a great device.
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I agree 100% ! I just love it.
The viewing angle is indeed deficient but I dont care. Its still bright and colorful. The FM radio and the loads of media formats it can play built in, are a great plus for me Really enjoyable device. Cant wait for an aokp 4.3 custom rom
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Ya I wasn't really looking for a specific yes or no. I was looking for things like: are you happy with it? Things you like about it and things you dislike. Did you find out anything after you bought it that you wish you knew before you bought it?
I really wish I could wait for the Note 3 but I need the phone basically this week. I am not a heavy user so I am pretty sure the smaller battery in this phone will be fine. My current Note 2 is amazing though. I understand that there will always be a better phone that is out or coming out soon. The Sony zl is free at Rogers right now so if I hate it that much I can sell it and get a nexus 4 or something. I don't really care about custom roms that much anymore. I used to care more because my first android phone was an LG G2x and they never updated it so I had to rely on custom roms for upgrades. As long as Sony will update it for another year or 2 ill be happy.
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i would not sure if there will be update for 2 years,you said u used note 2,so r u using the s-pen heavily,i hv a friend that like to sketch cartoon with his note 2,and i think that phone really suitable for him,if you one of them,you should wait for note 3,if not,i suggest you give zl a shot,nexus 4 also a good phone but i choose zl instead of nexus 4 when i buy it because i want to hv expandable storage n i also use fm radio quite frequently,i use zl since early 3 april until today and so far i'm happy with it.what i like mainly the phone shape,different from other and the only thing i dislike is the camera takes some times to load as i mention earlier,hope sony will fix it later on
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i would not sure if there will be update for 2 years,you said u used note 2,so r u using the s-pen heavily,i hv a friend that like to sketch cartoon with his note 2,and i think that phone really suitable for him,if you one of them,you should wait for note 3,if not,i suggest you give zl a shot,nexus 4 also a good phone but i choose zl instead of nexus 4 when i buy it because i want to hv expandable storage n i also use fm radio quite frequently,i use zl since early 3 april until today and so far i'm happy with it.what i like mainly the phone shape,different from other and the only thing i dislike is the camera takes some times to load as i mention earlier,hope sony will fix it later on
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I never use the sPen. I don't care about the speakers either because I never use external speakers in a phone. I never heard anything bad about the screen but I make the assumption that sony makes TV's so that can make a decent cell phone screen haha. The more I think about it, I just want a properly functioning phone. If Sony updates it then that is great but as long as it is smooth and everything works then ill be happy. It is going to be my phone for the next 3 years so it needs to last!
or to buy other phones?
suggest please other phones that are good
One plus one is the best phone out......if you can get an invite......When my one arrives my G3 will be leaving!
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Oneplus One is definitely not the best phone out there right now lol.
I think everyone have their favorite phone because everyone has different things they gonna or wanna do with it but i love my G3
Depending on your needs, the LG G3 is probably the best phone you can currently get. It does have some lag and stutter, the brightness isn't that high, and battery is just okay, but in terms of screen quality and size, design, build quality, camera, and features, it's hard to beat.
In the past year, I've used the Galaxy S5, Htc One m8, Xperia Z1, Note 3 and now G3. I can honestly say the LG G3 is my personal favorite (Note 3 close second).
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Oneplus One is definitely not the best phone out there right now lol.
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Going by the number of bad reviews i've seen, (0) and i've seen so many positives
And the fact that it's top of the benchmark apps
And the fact that I hate my G3 with a passion because it doesn't run smooth like a one
My opinion is that it's definately one of the best out there and the price makes it the very best of those
One of the bet top tier phones right now - the stock rom just needs a little work - updates are rolling out slowly.
I definately dont regret my purchase at all and being one of the only guys out of my firends to NOT have a Samsung - it gets a tonne of comments about how slick it looks.
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suggest please other phones that are good
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Why i chose the LG G3 :
The screen is realy stunning !
Knock code is the best tool i ever seen for locking/unlocking the screen!
LG Case and circle apps are very conveniant !
I regret the JACK/AUX issue, but it's a software issue known between LG and KK4.4.2. It should be solved soon.
Hi own A Xperia Z2.Can I switch to G3.How is colour on G3 screen as compared to Z2.I took a look at the phone but just noticed that it have faded icons,is it just ui or the screen
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I'm personally going to sell my G3 and get the Moto Turbo. That will have the best specs out of any phone released up until now, or that has been rumored to come out this year.
I have HTC M8 (Dev Ed.), Nexus 5 and LG G3 (D855). My personal favorite is M8, mainly because of the ability to unlock the boot loader and availability of many custom ROMs. Also, it looks and feel more premium (again, personal preference) and the awesome stereo sound. G3 is a good phone but not something I would like to keep. G3 is still at 4.4.2 version while others have moved on to 4.4.4. I will be selling my G3 very soon. If you are not into rooting and flashing Custom Roms, either one of the listed phones will serve you well. I am giving Nexus 5 to my son as it's easy for him to hold in his little hands.
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Yes.
mhm.. its look like that the phones of 2014 are bad.. not my taste :/
i will wait for 2015, or for Oppo n3.
Definitely a good buy. It has very good prices from operators. I got mine at a very good price compared to the M8 for ex.
Pros:
The overall size is great (feels "smaller" than it is - at least to me)
The screen is a plus and I like that the most.
Good and powerful camera (comparing here with my nexuses so far).
Latest updates (10L) got the "stock" firmware to be less annoying.
It has a bunch of neat optimizations / customization here and there.
Knock gestures, I constantly tap other phones to wake them now ... addicting
Cons:
The software is not that "clean". Not that cartoon-ish as the G2 software but still no AOSP. At time is clunky and "unresponsive".
The speaker is overrated. It's not that loud or clear or anything - just "amped".
No custom software / clunky tools that make you "tremble" when you do some tweaks to the software (clearly personal opinion here). Very slow update cycles so far.
Still plastic, not the "premium" build that some look for.
Back buttons still seem awkward after a few weeks but it's something you can live with.
All those CON's are software except the Plastic/Speaker.
2 cons is pretty good
I think the brushed backing looks awesome.
Yes, my only cons are the software, I have been so much accustomed to AOSP that I started to hate slow OEM customizations. Other than that the phone is good and works quite ok (though if you asked me after the first week I was very close to selling it).
So I had someone offer me a z5 premium dual for my 6p. I was wondering can I use T-Mobile LTE on the dual model? Does it have band 12? Also how is the battery life and is the quality in Snapchat good or bad ? I had the lg v10 and the quality was horrible vs my 6p with Snapchat.
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So I had someone offer me a z5 premium dual for my 6p. I was wondering can I use T-Mobile LTE on the dual model? Does it have band 12? Also how is the battery life and is the quality in Snapchat good or bad ? I had the lg v10 and the quality was horrible vs my 6p with Snapchat.
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I have a 6P and just got a Z5P. I have the single sim version though. Yes, it does have band 12. I can't comment too much on the battery yet compared to my 6P. I need to give it a few more days. So far I love the Z5P. I had a Z3 in the past and I missed having a Sony device, so I ended up with the Z5P.
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Ulver said:
I have a 6P and just got a Z5P. I have the single sim version though. Yes, it does have band 12. I can't comment too much on the battery yet compared to my 6P. I need to give it a few more days. So far I love the Z5P. I had a Z3 in the past and I missed having a Sony device, so I ended up with the Z5P.
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So you think its better then 6p how is Snapchat with the premium ?
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So I had someone offer me a z5 premium dual for my 6p. I was wondering can I use T-Mobile LTE on the dual model? Does it have band 12? Also how is the battery life and is the quality in Snapchat good or bad ? I had the lg v10 and the quality was horrible vs my 6p with Snapchat.
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Snapchat's camera interface is laggy and worse quality than the camera app on the phone.
One thing to keep in mind is that Nexus 6p will definitely have more things for it going here on XDA, like custom roms, etc.
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I can't comment on snapchat as I don't use it. They are both great phones. I've always liked stock Android, so the Nexus is a must have. But there has always been something about Sony phones I like. I think it's the build, feel, waterproof, and I really like the software. It's as close to stock as it gets.
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I have the premium dual and I have both tmo and att sims. Yes it works with band 12 but same as my z5c it likes to prefer band 4 in my area for some silly reason. But here att has better coverage so most of the time I leave the att sim active for data. Only one sim can be active for data but you can switch that in the settings easily. Both sims fully support all modes including LTE. They are dual standby so keep that in mind. Cant speak for snapchat as I don't use it.
Okay i think i might just hold off on it and maybe try a mate 8. Thanks for your guys input!
Hi, i'm about to change my Z3 Compact for a new phone. I need your opinion about if the change is worth. Thanks in advance.
to me, its a 'yes' just for the Nougat hahahaha but that's just me.
Why not wait to see what the new Nexus offers? Might be better, overall the 5x has hit and miss reviews, I really like mine tho.
Thanks for your quick reply. Yeah, i was thinking about the Nexus because the fact of its updates and great community. With the Z3C i'm in the Concept Software program which is a Stock android with some Sony customization. But the program ended and will not update anymore. I really enjoy the stock android experience. My only doubts are the performance and camera. Thanks
My wife has a Z3C and I have a Nexus 5X so I can answer a big honking yes!
Camera on the 5X to me is awesome, less MP but quality for me is better and she's often remarked how my photos look better in terms of colour and general punch. Make sure you get the 32GB version if you need the space as no SD card is a bit of a pain but fine if you use cloud services wisely.
Everything else is petty much fine on either phone, stereo speakers on Sony are far better than Nexus 5X mono horror but the screen I prefer on the Nexus.
Z3C's waterproofing is the only feature Id like (aside from stereo speakers) but to be honest the Z3C's implementation is annoying with the plastic flap over the charging port so ill happily live without and be careful for now.
We also have updates until autumn next year (Google released that info this year I think) whereas the Z3C is practically EOL now with Nougat and having lived through the lack of update hell that was the Xperia SP Id not want to do that again.
Thanks thats's all I need to know to buy the phone. Thank you so much!
I have my 32gb Nexus 5X right in my hand. I will sell my Z3 compact and well ... Thank you so much for answer so fast, now i am a happy user of this exellent device.
Definetly YES. N5X is far quicker and snappier, it has far better camera, a bit better display and for me it just look better (white variant is really sweet). Aside from that you have quicker updates, more ROMs, better quality ROMs with more developers and maintainers and overall better community. Z3C is better only in terms of waterproofing and maybe in sound reproduction from speakers. But thats pretty much it.