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Should i upgrade from my HTC One (M7)

Hi, i have a HTC One (m7) and was wondering if it is worth to upgrade to the LG G3

One word : Yes.

seboj said:
One word : Yes.
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i know all about the specs and I also own the LG G pad 8.3 (that I really like), but my bother was trying to get me to buy a Nexus 5

Coldheat1906 said:
i know all about the specs and I also own the LG G pad 8.3 (that I really like), but my bother was trying to get me to buy a Nexus 5
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The only reason to get the N5 over the G3 is if you absolutely have to have the fastest Android updates. Or the screen is too big. Or you only want to pay ~$300 for an off-contract phone.

Take it from someone who was in your exact shoes: yes. I had an HTC One XL, upgraded to a Dev Ed HTC One M7 when it came out and I loved it. I did. Screen was amazing. Phone felt great. And photos were pretty sweet (shameless plug: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lng0004/tags/htcone/). But then, when they announced the M8 which looked too similar with no big improvements to the camera, I decided to switch. My main interest was in a great camera sensor. So it was going to be either the Z2 or G3. G3 won me over with style.
After 6 days with the new G3, am I happy? Yup. It's still very much locked down. But after rooting, I was able to set up the phone to do (almost) all of what my HTC One was capable of. And the camera performs much better. Daytime photos actually look detailed and can be cropped without turning into one big mush. Oh, and the screen. Wow.
What I'm trying to say is, there's no reason not to upgrade.
PS: Get the G2 if you don't want to spend $600. Just as capable as the Nexus 5 with better camera and battery.

I used the M7 as my primary phone until I bought the G3 on Friday. I don't regret a thing. This phone is a beast.
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I can let you know on Thursday. I had a htc one but then switched to Verizon so I'm getting the g3
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I think your M7 is still amazing. The G3 is amazing too but some mind-boggling design elements detracts from the overall aesthetics of the phone. I mean, it has a sleek body with an amazing screen but marred by over-sharpening, poor UI colors, and badly designed icons. Come one! Cyan plus blue-gray in the UI? The over-sharpening of the display makes the fonts look weird and unbalanced (like a mixture of bold and thin weights). It also creates halos around texts. I would still prefer the HTC display quality.

I am not trying to defend the phone because everything you said is spot on and should have been fixed before its release. Definitely for us on the state side but if you are a flashaholic chances are after root and fingers crossed bootloader unlock for anyone not on tmobile stock problems wont bother you in the least. So I would say if you don't plan on being a power user with this phone skip on it until LG pulls it together.

keithleyson said:
I think your M7 is still amazing. The G3 is amazing too but some mind-boggling design elements detracts from the overall aesthetics of the phone. I mean, it has a sleek body with an amazing screen but marred by over-sharpening, poor UI colors, and badly designed icons. Come one! Cyan plus blue-gray in the UI? The over-sharpening of the display makes the fonts look weird and unbalanced (like a mixture of bold and thin weights). It also creates halos around texts. I would still prefer the HTC display quality.
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You mentioned over-sharpening twice. That's because it's the only noticeable flaw of the phone. Everything else is subjective. I do agree that HTC's SLCDs are amazing though. Brighter than the G3. But everything that's good about the G3 makes it a great upgrade.

The main reason why I got the G3 over the M8 is because of the screen. It's practically the same physical size as the M8 but with a bigger screen.
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Coming from m8 I would say no unless you can do without custom roms and live with pretty awful lag on the phone. I went for the screen size and resolution can you tell the difference ow yes.
Camera is better and like the thin bezel but again I say the lag is the biggest disappointing point of out the phone.

riz157 said:
Coming from m8 I would say no unless you can do without custom roms and live with pretty awful lag on the phone. I went for the screen size and resolution can you tell the difference ow yes.
Camera is better and like the thin bezel but again I say the lag is the biggest disappointing point of out the phone.
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I don't experience any lag with my G3, and they are still working on unlocking the bootloader - I wouldn't count out the devs yet.

I had an M7 for 3 months and I traded it outright for a Galaxy S4. Aside from the unimpressive camera, the original HTC One had terrible cellular reception. This was confirmed by numerous people on the XDA forums and was likely due to the all-metal construction. Right away, I noticed a drastic improvement in my data speed and rarely experienced dropped calls, like I frequently had with the One. My new G3 actually has better reception than the GS4, so if you are considering an upgrade the LG phone's improved call and data quality should be cause enough.
Throw in a faster processor, MUCH better camera, replaceable battery and micro-SD card slot and it's a no-brainer.
It's really strange to me that phone reviewers never consider reception. They talk about the screen, processor speed, speakers, etc. but don't ever mention the phone's ability to send and receive calls.

Thanks everyone for the input, I actually went ahead and pulled the trigger...... I figured that I can give it a week trial to see if I like it.
So I went to Bestbuy and grabbed on..... Oddly I was still given the $50 in store gift card and the phone was only $50 + tax. That made my purchase even sweeter.
So far I really do like the screen size and the speed, it actually does seem faster then my HTC One (M7). The camera is extremely better and I actually liked my M7 camera. If all goes well this week I will give my son my M7 and keep the G3

Anyone switch from the Nexus 5 to the G3

I have the Nexus 5 and really like it, but always craving a new phone. Has anyone switched from the Nexus 5 to G3 and what are your thoughts on it?

I think a lot of us have. This is my first non-Nexus device in a long time and I have absolutely no regrets about the switch. As far as the feel of the phone, it really feels like a bigger & more high end version of the Nexus 5 to me. I'm actually enjoying the features in the LG ROM on this phone as well. Some de-bloating was required but after that this phone is just as fast as my Nexus 5 was. And the camera... there really just is no comparison between the two phones in terms of the camera. It's an enormous improvement. The knock on/off features are really cool as well.
If you like your Nexus 5 but want a bigger screen, significantly better camera, and better battery life then you will absolutely love this phone. I promise.

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I think a lot of us have. This is my first non-Nexus device in a long time and I have absolutely no regrets about the switch. As far as the feel of the phone, it really feels like a bigger & more high end version of the Nexus 5 to me. I'm actually enjoying the features in the LG ROM on this phone as well. Some de-bloating was required but after that this phone is just as fast as my Nexus 5 was. And the camera... there really just is no comparison between the two phones in terms of the camera. It's an enormous improvement. The knock on/off features are really cool as well.
If you like your Nexus 5 but want a bigger screen, significantly better camera, and better battery life then you will absolutely love this phone. I promise.
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I second that, I'm finding very little reason to switch to another ROM although I might want to try another kernel when those do come out.
The built in apps like the LG keyboard, LG quickmemo and LG health are also pretty decent.
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Switched from a N5 3 weeks ago and I'm very happy with my decision. I've had zero issues with running stock and all I've done was root to debloat and run TiBu.

I went from the N4, to the G2, to the G3.

dspcap said:
I have the Nexus 5 and really like it, but always craving a new phone. Has anyone switched from the Nexus 5 to G3 and what are your thoughts on it?
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G3 with the removable battery & sd card is 2 sweet options to have once again coming from the N5, but if you into heavy customization and like to flash lots of Roms to meet your purposes then i doubt your going to get your fill of those things on the G3. If i was you i would check out your phone carrier's development section, and see if the development or lack there of, is something you might be able to deal with long term.

Tweaksbox on this phone makes it as good as any n5 rom. I had the n4 and cousin had an n5 and i was gunna get it in may but secided to wait for this. No regrets. Never going nexus again, never have to worry about storage, battery, having old tech, a better screen or anything. This is the best phone ive used and im a techie so i know my stuff.
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sn0warmy said:
I think a lot of us have. This is my first non-Nexus device in a long time and I have absolutely no regrets about the switch. As far as the feel of the phone, it really feels like a bigger & more high end version of the Nexus 5 to me. I'm actually enjoying the features in the LG ROM on this phone as well. Some de-bloating was required but after that this phone is just as fast as my Nexus 5 was. And the camera... there really just is no comparison between the two phones in terms of the camera. It's an enormous improvement. The knock on/off features are really cool as well.
If you like your Nexus 5 but want a bigger screen, significantly better camera, and better battery life then you will absolutely love this phone. I promise.
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One thing I have noticed is that the camera on the N5 is horrible, so that would be a big improvement. Thanks for the feedback.

DO ITTTTTTT
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KING SKILLZ said:
G3 with the removable battery & sd card is 2 sweet options to have once again coming from the N5, but if you into heavy customization and like to flash lots of Roms to meet your purposes then i doubt your going to get your fill of those things on the G3. If i was you i would check out your phone carrier's development section, and see if the development or lack there of, is something you might be able to deal with long term.
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I am less and less into customization, but I do like flashing ROMs. I am enjoying Android L right now, but I figure in a few months, that will be available for the G3 via ROM or rolled out. Are you thinking there won't be much development for this phone?

Made the switch. The G3 will have development, though obviously nothing like the N5 because it's not a developer phone.
I don't miss my N5 at all. Better screen, better battery life, better camera, MUCH better headphone output, more storage, IR blaster, the list goes on.

SomeGuyDude said:
Made the switch. The G3 will have development, though obviously nothing like the N5 because it's not a developer phone.
I don't miss my N5 at all. Better screen, better battery life, better camera, MUCH better headphone output, more storage, IR blaster, the list goes on.
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Good point, giving up a developer phone, but gaining so much more. I'll have to go look at it more this weekend. Thanks everyone.

dspcap said:
I am less and less into customization, but I do like flashing ROMs. I am enjoying Android L right now, but I figure in a few months, that will be available for the G3 via ROM or rolled out. Are you thinking there won't be much development for this phone?
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If i had to place a bet, i don't think development is going to be that great on this device, usually a device has a strong buzz even before its released about what developers are upgrading to it and so on. I also don't think there was strong development on the G2, and i'm sure its not helping that the G3 is coming on the heels of the M8 and S5 which a lot of the those developers probably upgraded from the M7 and S4. Also with android L to play with on the N5 I don't like the chances of having various Roms on the G3, you might want to stick with the N5 for a while.

KING SKILLZ said:
If i had to place a bet, i don't think development is going to be that great on this device, usually a device has a strong buzz even before its released about what developers are upgrading to it and so on. I also don't think there was strong development on the G2, and i'm sure its not helping that the G3 is coming on the heels of the M8 and S5 which a lot of the those developers probably upgraded from the M7 and S4. Also with android L to play with on the N5 I don't like the chances of having various Roms on the G3, you might want to stick with the N5 for a while.
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Thanks for the unbiased opinions everyone! Gives me lots to think about.

brolic925t said:
Tweaksbox on this phone makes it as good as any n5 rom. I had the n4 and cousin had an n5 and i was gunna get it in may but secided to wait for this. No regrets. Never going nexus again, never have to worry about storage, battery, having old tech, a better screen or anything. This is the best phone ive used and im a techie so i know my stuff.
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I'm in the same boat, seriously considering the g3 but I am worried about giving up my n5. I keep reading about this tweakbox but my question is how fast is a rooted g3 going to feel when compared to my n5 running a custom ROM and ART?

kingston73 said:
I'm in the same boat, seriously considering the g3 but I am worried about giving up my n5. I keep reading about this tweakbox but my question is how fast is a rooted g3 going to feel when compared to my n5 running a custom ROM and ART?
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They both use the same SIM standard I think so you can always switch back to your N5 when you need a ROM fix!

kingston73 said:
I'm in the same boat, seriously considering the g3 but I am worried about giving up my n5. I keep reading about this tweakbox but my question is how fast is a rooted g3 going to feel when compared to my n5 running a custom ROM and ART?
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I ran Purity and ART on N5 and then L Preview which of course is uber smooth..but after fiddling with debloating and various optimisations I can say unreservedly the G3 is a fine upgrade over the N5. Better battery, screen and camera top off a truly flagship product even with LGs overlay. I also think the G3 feels better in hand naked or with Diztronics case than N5. N6 will have to be even that much better for me to leave G3. Cheers!
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Thanks that was exactly what I was wondering. I just have to decide whether I want to wait and see what the nexus 6 looks like or not.

wideasleep1 said:
I ran Purity and ART on N5 and then L Preview which of course is uber smooth..but after fiddling with debloating and various optimisations I can say unreservedly the G3 is a fine upgrade over the N5. Better battery, screen and camera top off a truly flagship product even with LGs overlay. I also think the G3 feels better in hand naked or with Diztronics case than N5. N6 will have to be even that much better for me to leave G3. Cheers!
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What debloating and optimizations did you make? If you want to PM instead of this forum, that's fine. I am really curious what all you did. Thanks

kingston73 said:
I'm in the same boat, seriously considering the g3 but I am worried about giving up my n5. I keep reading about this tweakbox but my question is how fast is a rooted g3 going to feel when compared to my n5 running a custom ROM and ART?
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You are just talking about using xposed Tweakbox with the G3?

[Q] G3 vs S5

Hey guys... Im changing my phone into either a samsung galaxy s5 or a LG G3 this weekend but i am in a dilemma to choose between the 2 great phones. First off all i am someone who constantly gets my phone "wet" ( you know what i mean) and thats why ive been considering the s5 BUT i found out that the G3 had way better camera and display factors. However, the G3 did not produce a water resistant feature, i need some help to choose between the 2. Thanks!!

There is a youtube post where the g3 is put under water for quite some time without getting damaged. Just google it it seems legit. I would not recommend anyone doing it themselves but my guess is it would survive a splash. I was in the same situation as you 2 weeks ago. I must say im happy i didnt take the s5. This phone feels like the right choice but it is your call
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shadehh said:
There is a youtube post where the g3 is put under water for quite some time without getting damaged. Just google it it seems legit. I would not recommend anyone doing it themselves but my guess is it would survive a splash. I was in the same situation as you 2 weeks ago. I must say im happy i didnt take the s5. This phone feels like the right choice but it is your call
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LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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S5 old Samsung problem... cheap components (whatever components these are). 3 to 6 months it gets slow, the battery grows almost to the point to explode. IDK the situation for everyone, but the quality of Samsung in Brazil is absolutely **** and people still buy.

Baek.insu00 said:
Hey guys... Im changing my phone into either a samsung galaxy s5 or a LG G3 this weekend but i am in a dilemma to choose between the 2 great phones. First off all i am someone who constantly gets my phone "wet" ( you know what i mean) and thats why ive been considering the s5 BUT i found out that the G3 had way better camera and display factors. However, the G3 did not produce a water resistant feature, i need some help to choose between the 2. Thanks!!
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No I don't know, I've never gotten my phone wet lol... Wait one of is being sarcastic......

Thanks
Thanks you guys... That really helped in making my decision. Looking foward to my G3 this weekend!!

Good decision!
Ordered mine yesterday, took me some days to decide between the actual flagships.
- Sony Xperia Z2: nothing outstanding
- Samsung S5: I don´t like the design, i don´t like Samsung and i don´t want to have the same phone most others have. And all Samsung phones i had in my hands are suffering by the same: out in the sun it is realy hard to see anything on the display.
These two where out fast!
- HTC ONE M8: I´m on a HTC ONE X+ at the moment and i´m very happy with it. The M8 has a great design and the best speakers out there, plenty of custum roms out there to play around and no problems with a locked bootloader. But a 4MP-Camera is at the lower limit and what bothered me most was the waste of space. The M8 is only 4mm smaller and is a litlle thicker than the G3 and only has a 5'' Display!
AND THE WINNER IS: LG G3!!!
I had a LG OPTIMUS Black those days and it is still working fine.
For the G3 the only negative i found is this damned locked bootloader!
PLZ LG have mercy with us! We need the fun to play around with a mass of custom roms! Let the great developers out there unleash their potential!
XPOSED & TWEAKBOX i´m comming !
THX to all developers out there working already on it to get the best out of ours G3s.

Well I own a G3 but I gotta say the S5 has better battery life (and that very useful Ultra Power Saving mode), Camera is arguably better or equal, and I really like the Super AMOLED screen on it which won awards for best in industry.
The Waterproof feature is a great bonus.
I prefer the G3's build, design and UI though and its neat software features

Help me choose my new phone

Hello friends,
It`s the time of the year to get a new phone.
My options are LG G3 and Nexus 6.
I have been using Moto X until now but the battery in Moto X 2nd Gen seems to be crap and guess i will miss active display and droid is not available in my region
Thanks in advance
Regards
Sanjay

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Hello friends,
It`s the time of the year to get a new phone.
My options are LG G3 and Nexus 6.
I have been using Moto X until now but the battery in Moto X 2nd Gen seems to be crap and guess i will miss active display and droid is not available in my region
Thanks in advance
Regards
Sanjay
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I am waiting to see the responses you get. I, too, am thinking of getting a new phone. I am still using the Nexus 4. The LG G3 can be had for quite a bit cheaper (at least on AT&T) right now. It is $480 vs. $650 for the Nexus 6.

Hi, I have both.
G3 a little lag, worst camera
N6 less lag, worst battery, and personally I don't like that much the screen, and way too big

diegodbm said:
Hi, I have both.
G3 a little lag, worst camera
N6 less lag, worst battery, and personally I don't like that much the screen, and way too big
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I thought the G3 was supposed to have a pretty good camera? It seems everything I read contradicts something else I've read. The battery life is good, the battery sucks. The screen is amazing, the screens nothing special. There's tons of lag, there isn't really any lag. I don't know what to think.

kottke said:
I thought the G3 was supposed to have a pretty good camera? It seems everything I read contradicts something else I've read. The battery life is good, the battery sucks. The screen is amazing, the screens nothing special. There's tons of lag, there isn't really any lag. I don't know what to think.
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Worst camera than N6, but it's a decent one.
I prefer IPS rather than Amoled, so for me, better screen the G3.

kottke said:
I thought the G3 was supposed to have a pretty good camera? It seems everything I read contradicts something else I've read. The battery life is good, the battery sucks. The screen is amazing, the screens nothing special. There's tons of lag, there isn't really any lag. I don't know what to think.
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The G3 has an excellent camera. It rivals the iPhone 6 and beats the iPhone 5s.
I would personally take the G3 over the Nexus 6. The G3 has expandable memory and a removable battery. It's also smaller and lighter and it feels better in your hand. The Nexus 6 is just too big as well. Beyond 5.5" phones become too big IMO.

^^This
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diegodbm said:
Worst camera than N6, but it's a decent one.
I prefer IPS rather than Amoled, so for me, better screen the G3.
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Beats any time of the day the n6 camera you are totally wrong on that /
Battery life is "ok" nothing crazy nothing bad camera is very good speakers are crisp and clear screen is very bright even outdoors
I'd take the g3
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shahkam said:
Beats any time of the day the n6 camera you are totally wrong on that /
Battery life is "ok" nothing crazy nothing bad camera is very good speakers are crisp and clear screen is very bright even outdoors
I'd take the g3
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OK. I'm wrong. Perhaps I just get the bad one.
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Thanks everyone for your replies on this.
I don't mean to hijack this thread from OP, but would like opinions if it's ok.
I'm torn between going ahead and buying the G3 at it's current AT&T price of $480 (using Next), or waiting on some of the new models that are coming out. Specifically, the Galaxy S6, the HTC M9, the Flex 2, and finally the Asus Zenfone 2. All of those, with the exception of the Zenfone 2, will be at least $650 I presume, therefore the G3 is quite a bit cheaper. So, I'm not sure if the features of these new devices is worth waiting and paying more, or should I just go ahead and get the G3 now with it's $480 price tag?
Thanks again everyone.

My friend has also asked for my opinion whether he should buy a phone now or wait for the next flagships and my advise is : wait for it. The first few new phones should appear in stores in mid March - April, as Snapdragon 810 appears it might be worthwhile to wait for it as it supports 64bit vs the current 32bit.
Anyway, my opinions for OP's question is to go for the Nexus 6. I currently have a LG G3 and i find that its battery sucks (i came from a HTC Butterfly S and LG G2, im quite a heavy user (games, reddit, whatsapp and calls) and my screen on time at most is only maybe 3 to 3 and a half hours at best, while my Butterfly S was able to reach around 5-6hours vs my LG G2 4-5hours. I find that the 2K screen is not worth the battery life at all, its barely comparable with just a Full HD screen, and the processor cant handle it properly.
Camera is fantastic. HTC Butterfly S's camera utilises Ultrapixels (the same as the HTC One M7 and M8) and the G3 beats it completely. It takes miliseconds to snap a photo.
The LG G3 LAGS. Its not the kind of lag you get when you use a low end phone, its more like...microlags. For example - my LG G2 and LG G3 was at one point both running Resurrection Lollipop Rom, and while the LG G2 was really fast and fluid, the G3 feels different, everything seems slower and abit jaggedy, though its not visible ; more like as a gut feeling. Its more like the processor is struggling to handle the screen resolution itself, and somewhat succeeds though not entirely.
If i were you i would go for the Nexus 6, though the price and expandable storage takes some consideration.

fanghan said:
My friend has also asked for my opinion whether he should buy a phone now or wait for the next flagships and my advise is : wait for it. The first few new phones should appear in stores in mid March - April, as Snapdragon 810 appears it might be worthwhile to wait for it as it supports 64bit vs the current 32bit.
Anyway, my opinions for OP's question is to go for the Nexus 6. I currently have a LG G3 and i find that its battery sucks (i came from a HTC Butterfly S and LG G2, im quite a heavy user (games, reddit, whatsapp and calls) and my screen on time at most is only maybe 3 to 3 and a half hours at best, while my Butterfly S was able to reach around 5-6hours vs my LG G2 4-5hours. I find that the 2K screen is not worth the battery life at all, its barely comparable with just a Full HD screen, and the processor cant handle it properly.
Camera is fantastic. HTC Butterfly S's camera utilises Ultrapixels (the same as the HTC One M7 and M8) and the G3 beats it completely. It takes miliseconds to snap a photo.
The LG G3 LAGS. Its not the kind of lag you get when you use a low end phone, its more like...microlags. For example - my LG G2 and LG G3 was at one point both running Resurrection Lollipop Rom, and while the LG G2 was really fast and fluid, the G3 feels different, everything seems slower and abit jaggedy, though its not visible ; more like as a gut feeling. Its more like the processor is struggling to handle the screen resolution itself, and somewhat succeeds though not entirely.
If i were you i would go for the Nexus 6, though the price and expandable storage takes some consideration.
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1. Batterylife on the G3 is better then with the Nexus 6
2. Tried the new 20H firmware? No lag for me on that rom and i have many apps running in the background.
Just my 2 cents but i think besides your allready mentioned considerations the G3 is the better device because of the many usefull extra features it offers next to barebone android N6.

gee2012 said:
1. Batterylife on the G3 is better then with the Nexus 6
2. Tried the new 20H firmware? No lag for me on that rom and i have many apps running in the background.
Just my 2 cents but i think besides your allready mentioned considerations the G3 is the better device because of the many usefull extra features it offers next to barebone android N6.
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1. I somehow doubt it with my usage, Nexus 6 is AMOLED too which saves even more battery than G3's IPS screen.
2. Hmm ill try it now, though currently trying CloudyG3. Its not the number of apps it can run, the lag happens during more of its animations even when theres no apps in the background.

I'd choose G3, the nexus 6 is way big for me. The most important is I like the G3 outlook, it's gorgeous

And what about choosing between Sona Z3 vs HTC M8? Or other alike candidate (Samsung is not an option)?

Disappointed by the LG Nexus 5X specs and price ... is the LG G4 still worth buying?

As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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This decision is really up to what features you find value in. I love my G4 and you would have to decide if you want a phone that has removable battery and expandable storage to say have fingerprint scanner and the latest OS. These phones are different in a lot of ways.
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I picked up the G4 the day it came out,so I've had a good few months with it. Definitely no regrets. Coming from Samsung, it's a much less intrusive version of Android..... Than say... Touchwizz. It could benefit from extra features for battery saving mode like on the Sony or SAMSUNG, but it easily lasts me a day.
One of the best cameras, used it on my recent trip Italy, if you are into photography... You can have a lot of fun.
With every phone you will find +/-, but sure you can probably get a good deal on aG4, making it a real phone to consider.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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I can answer one of those questions: the overlay is acceptable, because 99.5% of the time I don't see it because I use the camera/browser/gallery/app of choice, instead of playing with the settings. That might be different in your case, but since you asked I thought I'd answer.

Hell! I'd recommend the G4 over their 6P! For that European price, I'd 100% recommend the G4 over it!!! No doubt about it! You can get the G4 for 420 euros! The 6P will be 650 and I still think the G4 will compare just as well Or even better in the camera department and battery life. Nexus' aren't known for battery life. Neither is the LG, but hey! ...

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs.
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what about the P variant ?
was a bit disappointed with the 5X specs too. with only 2gb, what reason is there to upgrade from the nexus 5 ?
Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Not for you, for a lot of non-purists, yes.
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
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exactly. will not mix with 'Hello Kitty'
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
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there is the sense mod if you are rooted. but this available for any android.
How fast the software updates get released?
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no where as fast as you would get on nexus. they come in time though.

I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
I find LG interface to be much more bearable than Samsung which to me personally is unusable. This is helped by the fact of on-screen buttons. But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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eksasol said:
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
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Then you are not a typical nexus user. You are interested in nexus only because updates are regular and this keeps the value of your device up.
You really prefer to have the extra 'features' every non nexus device offers.
So is this the same as the OP or not.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
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some would say they have exceeded apple in terms of build and quality with their offerings this year.
But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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if you don't need the camera...

Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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86 in photo and 79 in video for both but one has 84 points and G4 83 points, anyways DxoMark just sucks, a french reviewer... never in low light

I'm disappointed in the 5x because of the faux look of dual front speakers when in reality one is just an earpiece speaker, nothing more and lack of qi charging, and same outdated storage options. Really don't care about the lack of RAM, not like I can tell a difference going from the G4 to nexus 5, though all of it is hard to justify at $380 when you pay $20 more and get 3gb of ram, a 5.7 inch 2k screen, and an SD slot by choosing a moto x pure edition. 5x specs would be fine with nexus 4 pricing tiers
To answer your question if you're a purist like me, LG UX will drive you bonkers. So much stuff they changed just to be different that doesn't really have a purpose. I like it overall OK but have already decided I'm going back to a nexus or a moto next year. Also the memory leak is in full effect on it as LG has written 5.1.1 off as "too minor to even bother with" which means it won't get fixed until you get marshmallow which probably won't be until 2016
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Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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That was quick but the most interesting scores are the N6P is top for texture in stills beating the S6 & G4 and beating both again for Noise by 4 points.
I think the comparisons of N6P against S6/G4 are going to be interesting, hard as it might be to believe, expect the N6P shots to look slightly better in details than the S6/G4. How to counter that ? reduce to 12MP on both, now noise & details will look sharper and the difference will be hard to tell. Still, this is an achievement for the N6P. The 6S+ did not get there. The Z5 did.
In terms of video stabilisation its a good ten points behind the G4 so jerky video.
12MP and 1/2.3" rear camera.
The big catch is that there is no OIS in either N5X or N6P, pretty shocking considering N5 & N6 had it. Go to the trouble to make a good camera and then leave out OIS. Seriously WTH!!!! So like the Z5 except the Z5 will have more features ootb. You better have good handholds a la xperia or M9 to get clear low light shots with these nexii.
What will the camera interface be like, google camera has always been very limited. 3rd party cams will be essential. And then we will find out just how slow the shutter gets to.
They left out wireless charging on both ! ok, i get it that morotola is crap at wireless charging but LG already nailed it with the 5, two years ago.
Course for those who want sd & removable battery, software is not going to be able to fix

I've just returned my LG G4 to get the Nexus 5x.
I loved the G4's camera but the bloatware, bluetooth issues, buggy smart unlock, constant notifications of "NFC may drain battery" when using my car dock, the big when you put it on charge, the bing when it finishes charging, the bing when you turn it on, the bing when you turn it off.... it stopped being an enjoyable device to use and it was all because of what LG had done to Android.
So I'm going back to stock android. Originally I was going to wait for a G4 AOSP or Cyanogen rom but with the announcement of the fantastic Nexus 5x camera I decided to make the move while I still could..
The feature list is cut down compared to the G4 but it is stuff I am not so concerned with. I've not used expandable storage since moving to use Google music, Photo, Docs, Keep and Drive. I've never used wireless charging, and I don't game on my phones so I am not worried about the 1gb less of ram, especially when my Nexus 4 uses nearly 1GB of ram less than the LG G4 when idling.

I got the G4 after trying almost all other phones out there. I had Z3, HTC One M9, S6, Nexus 6, Iphone 6, and now G4 and the G4 blows them all away.
It is quicker than the others, has no memory or multitasking issues contrary to some minor views in this thread, the bluetooth, 4g and wifi work perfectly, smart lock works fine too, the camera beats all of the other phones I owned, and the battery life is equal to if not better than all at 5 Hours SOT at 60% screen brightness.
The new google launcher is AWFUL so wanting that is just nonesense, and the LG launcher has replaced Nova for me, because it's just as customisable.
Nexus fans won't want it though because they want Stock = Boring, and prefer the boring look to a decent camera and features. Anyone expecting the new Nexus devices to actually have decent real world camera is praying to the wrong gods.

I have no memory leak issues with my Verizon model, and love 95% of this phone.
Coming from a Nexus/Moto X background, I find LG's ui decent and mostly easy to use. There are 2 or 3 little annoyances in how settings are accessed, but Nova Launcher fixes most design issues - an icon pack and new screen layout, plus gestures to shortcut to the settings I use most.
I world consider rooting to clean up the other small issues, but I'm a regular Android Pay user do I'm holding off until that all shakes out.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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Im a huge nexus fan ive owned all of them from the first HTC to the last motorola. I bought the g4 blindly to test the non nexus waters and this phone has blown me away especially after the updates and the camera is super amazing and no nexus can or will beat it. Dont get me wrong ill probably grab the new nexus 5 based on stock so i can have fun rooting and putting custom roms on it, but besides having cutting edge software it will be my secondary phone and ill stick with my g4 for everyday use. To be honest im a crack flasher and it feels good to not have that urge with my g4, i got root and thats all i needed to get rid of some things and add xposed to tweak it a bit. Very happy with my g4 and will likely get the g5 when it drops.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Hello, I bought the G4 for about a month and it has no problem till now. Everything is OK. The body design is a little bend and quite comfortable playing with the phone. But the price is a little bit expensive for me. I was impulsive to buy it. Fortunately it performs well overall.

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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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no, because G4 and 5X share same hardware.

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Yes. In terms of hardware, it's about even up. And the G4 also offers a miniSD slot, exchangeable battery, and nice back covers. Only possible drawback might be the battery live, probably mostly thanks to the G4's insane resolution.
Is the LG overlay acceptable?
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I don't like the LG icons, but that can be easily changed by using a different launcher like Nova. Also, the colors for toast messages and quick settings are a bit bright (cyan). And the mobile data protocol (LTE, G3, ...) is displayed as own icon instead of small text in the reception bar icon. Most of the rest can easily be ignored or even be disabled in the settings.
But a lot of this (and more) can be modified even without unlocking the bootloader. You can flash rooted ROMs via the cable firmware update screen, and then use FlashFire to flash other ZIP updates like Xposed or themed variants (warning: very slow...).
With the European H815 version, you can also unlock the bootloader, but you'll lose warranty, and it can't be unlocked. But it'll allow you to flash "more AOSP" ROMs. (Official CM12 is work in progress, but there's an inofficial port available.)
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Android M at least has been announced for the G4. I guess it's hard to tell even by LG's developers, as it depends on the changes made by Google.
But then, the changes made since Android 4.1 aren't that impressive anyway IMHO, and several recent updates had some teething troubles, so maybe it's not so bad to wait a bit longer...