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So I've finally joined the club and boy am I stoked. So, what are the first things one should do e.g. apps to get, slight customisation, games etc, help your fellow comrade.
I don't know if this thread has been done before, if not, maybe it could be a sticky?
the first advice i could give to you is: read the forums
That's the beauty of WP7. There's no real customization to be done and no real apps to get. You're good to go!
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APPS?
download OEM apps.
download what you need. Marketplace got almost everything
customization? you mean changing the color of the tiles? LOL
radeon_x said:
That's the beauty of WP7. There's no real customization to be done and no real apps to get. You're good to go!
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How adorable, another android troll. There's also no lag, a good music player, no fragmentation (It's good to know I can't buy a new phone and have it be outdated next week) and hell, gaming has already about caught up with Android. You guys have more, we have better.
z33dev33l said:
How adorable, another android troll. There's also no lag, a good music player, no fragmentation (It's good to know I can't buy a new phone and have it be outdated next week) and hell, gaming has already about caught up with Android. You guys have more, we have better.
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I guess the problem is that the more you feed the trolls , they keep coming back for more.
i just realize that he is using a sgs...
eww.
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I guess the problem is that the more you feed the trolls , they keep coming back for more.
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Yeah, it's pretty much a greek tragedy how incompetent these android users are "LOL my phone OS is better than yours *tap 3 times before an app finally pulls up then swipe left or right and watch the lag roll in* Yup, totally better, I troll you."
Ha. That wasn't really a troll. I just meant there's no setup or critical apps you need to get the phone running. Just grab whatever catches your eye from the market and you're golden. I like that aspect of the platform compared to Android. Until you want your phone to do something a specific way, it's bliss.
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kappo78 said:
So I've finally joined the club and boy am I stoked. So, what are the first things one should do e.g. apps to get, slight customisation, games etc, help your fellow comrade.
I don't know if this thread has been done before, if not, maybe it could be a sticky?
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Welcome to the world of WP7. Care to share which device you acquired?
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Welcome to the world of WP7. Care to share which device you acquired?
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I don't get it, aren't you the one who was pushing the WebOS users to outvote everything on that poll?
If you only get two games, get...
Ilomilo
Aphajax
Both will blow your mind into little wobbly pieces of grey blancmange and raspberry sauce. And all will be well in the world.
Wait! Someone's just put QUORUM down on a TW! Bastard!
radeon_x said:
That's the beauty of WP7. There's no real customization to be done and no real apps to get. You're good to go!
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It depends on how you look at it.
Lacking the need for customization at a low level is good (Rooting to uninstall bloatware, etc.), but there are tons of instances where you have to hack the system up just to achieve trivial tasks. Adding Ringtons to you phone, accessing Camera Shutter options, changing the default Search Engine in the Browser (T-Mobile sets it to Google, and some Euro Carrier sets it to Yahoo!). Things like that. You can't even set a home page in the browser (so even though I can't stand searching through Google, there's no way to Set Bing as the home page and just open a new tab and search from there). The OS is literally devoid of options/settings that matter. Can't even toggle between EDGE and 3G to save battery without hacking the phone (and that hack doesn't even work for some phones).
These aren't deep customizations on any other smartphone platform, but for WP7 it requires going beyond rooting or jailbreaking an Android phone. It makes Android a bit easier to use than WP7 when you factor in OneClick Root apps and the ability to sideload applications without scouring threads/the internet for information to get this done (and installing a ridiculously big SDK on your computer - nevermind the fact that it requires a Windows PC as well).
Microsoft got it wrong.
The issue with Android settigs is not that there were too many. It's the way they are presented to the user. They're generally (especially in third party applications from independent devs) just thrown in the user face on one huge page. Decently organized options in groups or tabs... there's nothing wrong with that. They need to add tons of options for the system and stock applications, because making even trivial changes to some behaviors is impossible without going through more work than loading a custom ROM on an Android phone is right now.
Minimalistic is good if you do it right (iOS). Microsoft took it to the extreme and all it does is create a ton of usability faux pas.
z33dev33l said:
How adorable, another android troll. There's also no lag, a good music player, no fragmentation (It's good to know I can't buy a new phone and have it be outdated next week) and hell, gaming has already about caught up with Android. You guys have more, we have better.
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Actually, you're trolling him.
He means that the stock functionality in the WP7 system is above and beyond Android and iOS. And it is. Everything comes from Microsoft, integrates nicely, and performs well. Aside from Microsoft and Manufacturer Apps (i.e. HTC, LG, Samsung Apps), there aren't that many apps that you need on a WP7 device to be functional - besides games. Twitter is missing in the People Hub, so that's a biggie, and the Facebook integration doesn't include all functionality, so you need that.
I suggest Twitter, Seesmic, Facebook (Seesmic because it includes both and is a nice hub to use when you don't need heavy duty FB/Twitter functionality). Microsoft has a ton of free apps that are useful. Your manufacturer (especially if HTC) will fill in many of the other gaps. Foursquare is in the Market.
Adobe Reader is in the market. Amazon and Amazon Kindle is there. eBay has a very nice App in the market. Messenger by Miyowa sadly I have to recommend it because it's the best of any Messenger app in the market at the moment.
If you have an HTC phone you don't need a weather app. The HTC Hub Tile is Live for Weather. If not, I recommend Weather bug or Microsoft's little weather app. Weather Channel is a 9MB app and I can't see how that ridiculous size is justified given how WeatherBug and Microsoft's weather app are both < 2MB (if not 1 or below).
Microsoft has a few free games to try out. AlphaJacks is like Words With Friends for Windows Mobile ("Try It" version is free forever, but Ad Supported). Haypi Kingdom is a nice strategy game that is multi-player (also available for iOS and Android, so there is no shortage of people to play with/against).
Office Apps aren't needed (Office Mobile)
NoteTaking Apps aren't needed (OneNote Mobile)
Exchange Clients aren't needed (In-Built Functionality)
Music Players aren't needed (Zune)
Radio Apps aren't needed (Zune)
Slacker and Last.FM exist for Internet Radio.
Shazam is available with Unlimited Tagging.
Microsoft has a List App in the market (and HTC has one in their Marketplace).
Poynt, AP Mobile, IMDb, Fandango are all there.
But there aren't many needed apps, TBQH. Most apps are slower to use than the web browser because they tend to take excessive amounts of time "Updating..." Loading a web browser or performing a voice search often outperforms them, IME.
I'd get the biggies. Personally I'd avoid crap that you don't necessarily need and use the space for stuff that matters (Music, Pictures, Documents, etc.).
You can save documents from SkyDrive to your computer by opening them up from the Office.Live.com website and saving them to your Office Hub in Office Mobile. OneNote Mobile Syncs perfectly. There is an option to keep your Camera Roll in Sync with SkyDrive (this can use a lot of data if you take lots of pictures).
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Actually, you're trolling him.
He means that the stock functionality in the WP7 system is above and beyond Android and iOS. And it is. Everything comes from Microsoft, integrates nicely, and performs well. Aside from Microsoft and Manufacturer Apps (i.e. HTC, LG, Samsung Apps), there aren't that many apps that you need on a WP7 device to be functional - besides games. Twitter is missing in the People Hub, so that's a biggie, and the Facebook integration doesn't include all functionality, so you need that.
I suggest Twitter, Seesmic, Facebook (Seesmic because it includes both and is a nice hub to use when you don't need heavy duty FB/Twitter functionality). Microsoft has a ton of free apps that are useful. Your manufacturer (especially if HTC) will fill in many of the other gaps. Foursquare is in the Market.
Adobe Reader is in the market. Amazon and Amazon Kindle is there. eBay has a very nice App in the market. Messenger by Miyowa sadly I have to recommend it because it's the best of any Messenger app in the market at the moment.
If you have an HTC phone you don't need a weather app. The HTC Hub Tile is Live for Weather. If not, I recommend Weather bug or Microsoft's little weather app. Weather Channel is a 9MB app and I can't see how that ridiculous size is justified given how WeatherBug and Microsoft's weather app are both < 2MB (if not 1 or below).
Microsoft has a few free games to try out. AlphaJacks is like Words With Friends for Windows Mobile ("Try It" version is free forever, but Ad Supported). Haypi Kingdom is a nice strategy game that is multi-player (also available for iOS and Android, so there is no shortage of people to play with/against).
Office Apps aren't needed (Office Mobile)
NoteTaking Apps aren't needed (OneNote Mobile)
Exchange Clients aren't needed (In-Built Functionality)
Music Players aren't needed (Zune)
Radio Apps aren't needed (Zune)
Slacker and Last.FM exist for Internet Radio.
Shazam is available with Unlimited Tagging.
Microsoft has a List App in the market (and HTC has one in their Marketplace).
Poynt, AP Mobile, IMDb, Fandango are all there.
But there aren't many needed apps, TBQH. Most apps are slower to use than the web browser because they tend to take excessive amounts of time "Updating..." Loading a web browser or performing a voice search often outperforms them, IME.
I'd get the biggies. Personally I'd avoid crap that you don't necessarily need and use the space for stuff that matters (Music, Pictures, Documents, etc.).
You can save documents from SkyDrive to your computer by opening them up from the Office.Live.com website and saving them to your Office Hub in Office Mobile. OneNote Mobile Syncs perfectly. There is an option to keep your Camera Roll in Sync with SkyDrive (this can use a lot of data if you take lots of pictures).
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Eh, no real apps to get doesn't exactly sound right. It makes it sound like anything released on this platform is bad.
To OP though, Ilomilo and Twin Blades are the only games I have that live up to my XBL expectations (and sadly I have most of them) there are other good games but Ilomilo overall. other than that Netflix is the only other one I'd deem necessary.
I knew exactly what he means when I read the post. Perhaps English isn't his first language, but it wasn't a hard statement to decipher...
Netflix is useless if you're not a subscriber, so I wouldn't deem it necessary at all. No one is going to subscribe to Netflix just to watch movies on a phone. Just doesn't make sense, IMO. If you're a subscriber, though, have it's nice to have...
The only necessary apps are those for social networking, and XBox Live Extras.
The Manufacturer Hub Apps (some/most of them) are a given.
TBQH, most smartphone OSes are like this. If the platform is missing something, like Android is, the Manufacturers usually add it in (ThinkFree Office, Amazon MP3, MobiTV, Exchange support, etc.).
One thing most of us forgot is Navigation Software. At this point if you want decent navigation with Turn-By-Turn directions, you're basically required to pay a subscription fee for TeleNav or whatever the phone comes with.
I've tried A-to-B Navigation. It's useless for all practical purposes.
Social Networking and Navigation Software are the only ones I'd say are necessary.
Also the Carriers are allowed to change the default search provider in Internet Explorer, so if you're a Bing user like me the usability of in-browser search is... terrible. T-Mobile Maps the Search button (and address bar search) in IE to Google and some Euro Carriers change it to Yahoo. Severely inconsistent and bad considering most people use the address bar to perform searches.
There is no option to change the default search provider. And performing that hack requires more manual labor than rooting and installing a custom ROM on an Android computer (and involves making registry changes, etc. on your Windows PC).
N8ter said:
I knew exactly what he means when I read the post. Perhaps English isn't his first language, but it wasn't a hard statement to decipher...
Netflix is useless if you're not a subscriber, so I wouldn't deem it necessary at all. No one is going to subscribe to Netflix just to watch movies on a phone. Just doesn't make sense, IMO. If you're a subscriber, though, have it's nice to have...
The only necessary apps are those for social networking, and XBox Live Extras.
The Manufacturer Hub Apps (some/most of them) are a given.
TBQH, most smartphone OSes are like this. If the platform is missing something, like Android is, the Manufacturers usually add it in (ThinkFree Office, Amazon MP3, MobiTV, Exchange support, etc.).
One thing most of us forgot is Navigation Software. At this point if you want decent navigation with Turn-By-Turn directions, you're basically required to pay a subscription fee for TeleNav or whatever the phone comes with.
I've tried A-to-B Navigation. It's useless for all practical purposes.
Social Networking and Navigation Software are the only ones I'd say are necessary.
Also the Carriers are allowed to change the default search provider in Internet Explorer, so if you're a Bing user like me the usability of in-browser search is... terrible. T-Mobile Maps the Search button (and address bar search) in IE to Google and some Euro Carriers change it to Yahoo. Severely inconsistent and bad considering most people use the address bar to perform searches.
There is no option to change the default search provider. And performing that hack requires more manual labor than rooting and installing a custom ROM on an Android computer (and involves making registry changes, etc. on your Windows PC).
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Not only that, but I wouldn't subscribe to any version of Netflix because of the cost. I watch maybe 2 to 4 rented movies a month. And some months, none. To have to pay a fee just to use Netflix is wasteful. Yet that's how NF works. I would, however, subscribe to NF if there was no fee. The only cost would be the rental charge.
I have to say the best game for Xbox Live is the Harvest. Feels like diablo with a sci fi twist. The bad thing though is if your a typical Xbox console gamer, you won't find much that will interest you on WP7.
I swear its a new puzzle or tower defense game ever week.
you can of course customise your lock screen, you could also install "pin to start" which apparently offers customised live tile (don't have it myself, not my type of thing". Apps wise, get the HTC You tube app if you have an HTC device, would also recommend pdf reader and the amazon kindle app (if you like books) beyond that, there are nearly 9000 apps to choose from - I think there are even a couple of "fart" apps if that floats your boat...........
I've already mentioned Adobe Acrobat Reader X and Amazon Kindle.
Not all applications have Live Tiles, and TBH without a Live Tile an app would have to be very important to merit a spot on you home screen (no one wants a home screen that scrolls for miles). I have issues keeping Seesmic/Twitter/Facebook on the Home Screen, for example, without a Live Tile. Games like AlphaJax are good cause the Tile is Live (tells you when it's your turn and how many games you have waiting on you, for example).
The HTC YouTube app is good, but it's only for HTC devices (I already said the Manufacturer apps were a given since they fill in obvious gaps in functionality i.e. YouTube, NotePad/List App, Flashlight, Attentive Phone, Live Weather Tile (HTC), Sound Enhancer, etc.).
The customization that I say is missing isn't really "customization" in the XDA-Developers sense.
Setting a Home Page in the Browser, Setting the Default Search Engine in the Browser, and Options for things like how long you want Toast Notifications to stay on the screen aren't any type of deep customization. It's simply a trivial setting that Microsoft needs to add. These things are missing all over the OS and need to be added in ASAP. It acually makes the OS a chore to use in many instances.
They also need to make carriers unable to alter the default search engine. It sucks for people who use a certain search engine, and makes it take 3x longer to perform searches if you don't want to go through Google. There just need to be an option for the three biggies (Bing, Yahoo, Google) or the ability to allow the bing homepage to set itself as the default search engine (or Yahoo, or Google).
I have a couple Email Digital Certificates (.p12) that I use to sign and encrypt emails from my desktop. I would like to start using them on my phone, but cannot seem to find any options in the native HTC Email app. I got them installed in the security settings on the phone, but just cannot find an option to use them in my emails. I have also tried using K-9, but cannot find an option within that app either.
So, is there any way to digitally sign and/or encrypt emails within the native email app?
If not, are there any reputable, trustworthy 3rd party apps in the app store that have this capability?
Oh and not sure if it actually matters, but I have the VZW variant One M8....
Thanks in advance,
Kratos
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I have a couple Email Digital Certificates (.p12) that I use to sign and encrypt emails from my desktop. I would like to start using them on my phone, but cannot seem to find any options in the native HTC Email app. I got them installed in the security settings on the phone, but just cannot find an option to use them in my emails. I have also tried using K-9, but cannot find an option within that app either.
So, is there any way to digitally sign and/or encrypt emails within the native email app?
If not, are there any reputable, trustworthy 3rd party apps in the app store that have this capability?
Oh and not sure if it actually matters, but I have the VZW variant One M8....
Thanks in advance,
Kratos
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I think I finally figured this out. Android (for some very strange reason) doesn't actually support digital signatures or encryption with email natively. Therefore, one MUST use a third party app to process encrypted or digitally signed emails.
I have checked out R2Mail2 as a possible solution and am thus far liking it. There were a couple other options (but only a couple I could find) and they either had very low reviews or were requesting permissions that just didn't make sense. In fact one of them actually tried to explain why they needed permissions to view call logs, but weren't convincing enough for me so I skipped over it.
I also have a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 and it supposedly supports certificates natively (something Samsung added themselves), but I guess it doesn't support S/MIME with the .p12 extension as it continues to tell me that there are no files found on my device.
If anyone has any other solutions that are better than having to use (and pay for) a 3rd party app, please do tell.
Thanks Kratos
king kratos said:
I think I finally figured this out. Android (for some very strange reason) doesn't actually support digital signatures or encryption with email natively. Therefore, one MUST use a third party app to process encrypted or digitally signed emails.
I have checked out R2Mail2 as a possible solution and am thus far liking it. There were a couple other options (but only a couple I could find) and they either had very low reviews or were requesting permissions that just didn't make sense. In fact one of them actually tried to explain why they needed permissions to view call logs, but weren't convincing enough for me so I skipped over it.
I also have a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 and it supposedly supports certificates natively (something Samsung added themselves), but I guess it doesn't support S/MIME with the .p12 extension as it continues to tell me that there are no files found on my device.
If anyone has any other solutions that are better than having to use (and pay for) a 3rd party app, please do tell.
Thanks Kratos
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No one has any ideas about native S/MIME support?
Kratos
I've been looking into this for a while... and I think you already found the best solution. R2Mail2 handles both S/MIME and PGP. I haven't seen any other good options for S/MIME. K9 + APG can give you PGP. There used to be a simple native mail app that would do PGP, but it looks like thats been pulled by Google.
So, every device I've owned, I've had to use Messenger since they started it, as the messaging portion of the original app is disabled. There are workarounds for rooted phones to re-enable messaging without messenger.
I found a way to do it on my stock Sprint LS991 G4. I went into the play store and hit disable auto updates, went into app settings and uninstalled updates to both facebook and messenger, then I disabled messenger. Since then I've had full access to messaging in the native app, not a single popup asking for me to install messenger.
Don't know if anyone else is interested in this, but I figured I would post it, as a lot of people hate messenger.
Using m.facebook.com allows messaging without the app too.
Any faster fb chat app then massanger?
lisaquach said:
Any faster fb chat app then massanger?
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Messenger not fast enough?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2934179
I would use TinFoil for Facebook. Not a battery hog too!
Even if I click on the link for Facebook Lite or search it directly on the play store it doesn't come up. I've been able to find a workaround and since it's free and legal I've put the download link below. Looks like they've just pushed it out to a few countries.
You can download the latest version of Facebook Lite here:
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=Facebook+Lite&fdid=org.indywidualni.fblite
..Sent from an impeccable LG G4 on Verizon..
You can re-enable the facebook chat, no root required. Just did it on my brand new phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-facebook-chat-enabler-t2934179
Spotted this one today. Nice...
Hurray for author : Jon Knight
<< bravo zulu >>
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https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/remove-bloatware-your-lg-v30-no-root-needed-0180884/
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Anyone building a list of "safe" bloat to clobber ?
And then also, is anyone playing with this page ?
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https://greenify.uservoice.com/know...o-grant-permissions-required-by-some-features
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and do something along the lines as this.
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PS C:\adb> adb devices
List of devices attached
LGH9325d94b6c4 device
PS C:\adb> adb -d shell pm grant com.oasisfeng.greenify android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
PS C:\adb> adb -d shell pm grant com.oasisfeng.greenify android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
PS C:\adb> adb -d shell am force-stop com.oasisfeng.greenify
PS C:\adb>
thanks for this!
Edited to remove LG Setup Wizard from the list. Removing LG Setup Wizard kills the Always On Display.
OK,these are the apps / services that I deleted using this procedure. I based my selections off of Google searches that turned up lists for previous LG phones. I had to perform a full system reset after I made the mistake of deleting a contact sync. For now, the only one I have any concern over is the LG Setup Wizard, but so far, so good. Obviously, I'll update if I run into a problem caused by any of these missing.
AppFlash com.discoveryscreen
LG Calendar com.android.calendar <== loaded Google Calendar
V-Cast Media Manager com.vcast.mediamanager
LG Contacts com.android.contacts <== loaded Google Contacts
LG Email com.lge.email
LG File Manager com.lge.filemanager
LG Smart Share com.lge.smartsharepush
LG Clock com.lge.clock <== loaded Timley
LG Fitness com.lge.lifetracker
LG Sync com.lge.sync
GLOSNASS Position Test com.lge.gnsspostest
LG Map UI com.lge.lgmapui
VZ Messaging+ com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs
LG SMS com.android.mms <== using Google Messages & Voice
LG Music com.lge.music
LG Music Widget com.lge.sizechangable.musicwidget.widget
VZ NFL com.gotv.nflgamecenter.us.lite
VZ HUM (automotive data) com.verizontelematics.verizonhum
VZ Security & Privacy App com.securityandprivacy.android.verizon.vms
VZ Slacker com.slacker.radio
LG Thinkfree Viewer com.lge.thinkfreeviewer
VZ Caller Name ID com.vzw.ecid
LG GNSS Air Test com.lge.gnss.airtest
LG Media Server com.lge.smartshare
LG MirrorLink com.lge.mirrorlink
LG Weather com.lge.sizechangable.weather
LG Weather Service com.lge.sizechangable.weather.platform
LG Weather Theme com.lge.sizechangable.weather.theme.optimus
Can't bring myself to delete the LG keyboard or Launcher even though I am running Swype and Nova; I'll try disabling and hiding.
Does anyone see something in my list that would be causing my AOD to stop working?
Realized the phone is going straight to black.
(Edit - turns out this was caused by removing LG Setup Wizard)
Hmm. I wonder if this could be used in reverse to inject super user disguised as a preloaded app?
Hi - is it safe to remove the Contacts app? And how do you go about hiding the Phone app? I'm using the stock Google dialler but obvs don't want to break the dialler if I can avoid it...
Boru80 said:
Hi - is it safe to remove the Contacts app? And how do you go about hiding the Phone app? I'm using the stock Google dialler but obvs don't want to break the dialler if I can avoid it...
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Do not remove the contacts app. I disabled it and, while the dialer continued to work (I am using the Google phone app as well), I could no longer view or modify my contacts. When I re-enabled the contacts app everything worked again. Just my experience...
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Edited to remove LG Setup Wizard from the list. Removing LG Setup Wizard kills the Always On Display.
OK,these are the apps / services that I deleted using this procedure. I based my selections off of Google searches that turned up lists for previous LG phones. I had to perform a full system reset after I made the mistake of deleting a contact sync. For now, the only one I have any concern over is the LG Setup Wizard, but so far, so good. Obviously, I'll update if I run into a problem caused by any of these missing.
AppFlash com.discoveryscreen
LG Calendar com.android.calendar <== loaded Google Calendar
V-Cast Media Manager com.vcast.mediamanager
LG Contacts com.android.contacts <== loaded Google Contacts
LG Email com.lge.email
LG File Manager com.lge.filemanager
LG Smart Share com.lge.smartsharepush
LG Clock com.lge.clock <== loaded Timley
LG Fitness com.lge.lifetracker
LG Sync com.lge.sync
GLOSNASS Position Test com.lge.gnsspostest
LG Map UI com.lge.lgmapui
VZ Messaging+ com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs
LG SMS com.android.mms <== using Google Messages & Voice
LG Music com.lge.music
LG Music Widget com.lge.sizechangable.musicwidget.widget
VZ NFL com.gotv.nflgamecenter.us.lite
VZ HUM (automotive data) com.verizontelematics.verizonhum
VZ Security & Privacy App com.securityandprivacy.android.verizon.vms
VZ Slacker com.slacker.radio
LG Thinkfree Viewer com.lge.thinkfreeviewer
VZ Caller Name ID com.vzw.ecid
LG GNSS Air Test com.lge.gnss.airtest
LG Media Server com.lge.smartshare
LG MirrorLink com.lge.mirrorlink
LG Weather com.lge.sizechangable.weather
LG Weather Service com.lge.sizechangable.weather.platform
LG Weather Theme com.lge.sizechangable.weather.theme.optimus
Can't bring myself to delete the LG keyboard or Launcher even though I am running Swype and Nova; I'll try disabling and hiding.
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I know this is an old thread, but wanted to say thanks for this! Been looking for a functional list for a while on what I can safely remove. I'm trying to avoid having to use a custom ROM and not be able to use the hifi DAC or camera.
Will try to do some testing/trial and error to update this for the newest VS99620g ROM, which is full of so much nonsense.
MortimerR said:
I know this is an old thread, but wanted to say thanks for this! Been looking for a functional list for a while on what I can safely remove. I'm trying to avoid having to use a custom ROM and not be able to use the hifi DAC or camera.
Will try to do some testing/trial and error to update this for the newest VS99620g ROM, which is full of so much nonsense.
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Removing LG Weather service will disable lockscreen weather animations.
I see other stuff on there like Caller ID that's very useful, unless that's something you don't use?
Just a general statement...
Not sure why people buy premium phones then want to remove most of the premium features? It's their phone, but I don't understand.
I'm only saying this because lots of people remove stuff willy nilly, then ask "Hey, why doesn't abc work?" Because of stuff they removed!
I'm not talking about things like the NFL app, obviously.
ChazzMatt said:
Removing LG Weather service will disable lockscreen weather animations.
I see other stuff on there like Caller ID that's very useful, unless that's something you don't use?
Just a general statement...
Not sure why people buy premium phones then want to remove most of the premium features? It's their phone, but I don't understand.
I'm only saying this because lots of people remove stuff willy nilly, then ask "Hey, why doesn't abc work?" Because of stuff they removed!
I'm not talking about things like the NFL app, obviously.
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Premium Features on v30? Can you tell us what you consider as premium? I disabled almost LG services/apps.
zrzhu said:
Premium Features on v30? Can you tell us what you consider as premium? I disabled almost LG services/apps.
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VPN, NFC, Wi-Fi calling, Printer spooling (to print from phone), GPS (GNSS), Facial Recognition, Mirror Link, many others. All those are categorize with LG in the name.
Below represent my own opinions and views based on years of using honor/huawei phones but specifically my latest one, Honor 8x.
1. Official Gmail app cannot show notification dots/numbers under honor launcher. If you go to launcher settings--> Badge app icons, gmail app will never be there as one of the options.
2. Official honor email client limits number of gmail accounts you can have. I have enetered 10 gmail accounts and on trying to enter another one app tells me limit reached and i have to delete all (yes that's right ALL) current gmail accounts if i want to add another one !
BTW honor's email client is about as primitive as they come with very few features/options available so don't expect a gmail, edison, thunderbird, protonmail etc.. experience.
3. Notifications sometimes fail due to aggressive background battery optimisation. Yes you can try and control some of these via 'ignore optimisation' but they don't always seem to work. Search the web and you'll see many complaining about this same issue.
4. Honor's reluctance to install any other launcher but their own. Yes you can do it but (a) first they warn you that it's not recommended, why ? and (b) notifications again become a problem if you move away from their launcher. For example, i tried Nova with tesla unread and ran into the notification problem outlined in 1 above.
5. Comparing with some of my other phones, 1+3T (stock) and Honor 9 Lite (OmniRom) this 2018 Kirin 710 is NOT impressing me. It's ok but not what i expected in late 2018 mid range and the H9L, with OmniRom gsi, beats it hands down. I can only put this down to Honor's EMUI overhead.
6. Bloatware, some you can uninstall but not all. You can disable the rest but not uninstall them, why ? why do i want to keep facebook services on my phone if i don't use facebook ? for example.
7. Lastly, the elephant in the room, as it were. Since no bootloader is available for honor devices anymore (yes i knew this when i bought it) many of these complaints can never be overcome.
Honor's devices are great value for money, that's why even knowing all the above i still buy them, but they fail on so many fundamental things for people who like android because of its customisation potential. Also it has been my experience, after owning 5 different honor phones, that they're not great on updates either.
Enough of a rant, only wanted to put this out there as my own personal view of my experience with Honor phones. Love their design, looks and pricing, hate their functionality (or lack of it) compared to other developer friendly phones.
xzyk said:
Below represent my own opinions and views based on years of using honor/huawei phones but specifically my latest one, Honor 8x.
1. Official Gmail app cannot show notification dots/numbers under honor launcher. If you go to launcher settings--> Badge app icons, gmail app will never be there as one of the options.
2. Official honor email client limits number of gmail accounts you can have. I have enetered 10 gmail accounts and on trying to enter another one app tells me limit reached and i have to delete all (yes that's right ALL) current gmail accounts if i want to add another one !
BTW honor's email client is about as primitive as they come with very few features/options available so don't expect a gmail, edison, thunderbird, protonmail etc.. experience.
3. Notifications sometimes fail due to aggressive background battery optimisation. Yes you can try and control some of these via 'ignore optimisation' but they don't always seem to work. Search the web and you'll see many complaining about this same issue.
4. Honor's reluctance to install any other launcher but their own. Yes you can do it but (a) first they warn you that it's not recommended, why ? and (b) notifications again become a problem if you move away from their launcher. For example, i tried Nova with tesla unread and ran into the notification problem outlined in 1 above.
5. Comparing with some of my other phones, 1+3T (stock) and Honor 9 Lite (OmniRom) this 2018 Kirin 710 is NOT impressing me. It's ok but not what i expected in late 2018 mid range and the H9L, with OmniRom gsi, beats it hands down. I can only put this down to Honor's EMUI overhead.
6. Bloatware, some you can uninstall but not all. You can disable the rest but not uninstall them, why ? why do i want to keep facebook services on my phone if i don't use facebook ? for example.
7. Lastly, the elephant in the room, as it were. Since no bootloader is available for honor devices anymore (yes i knew this when i bought it) many of these complaints can never be overcome.
Honor's devices are great value for money, that's why even knowing all the above i still buy them, but they fail on so many fundamental things for people who like android because of its customisation potential. Also it has been my experience, after owning 5 different honor phones, that they're not great on updates either.
Enough of a rant, only wanted to put this out there as my own personal view of my experience with Honor phones. Love their design, looks and pricing, hate their functionality (or lack of it) compared to other developer friendly phones.
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You have entered 10 email accounts...that's a lot
10 email accounts on a phone are totally enough for a normal person otherwise you have special needs. It is ok to download some apps to do it.
I have similar complaints.
Just got an Honor 8x last weekend, and it's lovely phone, fast enough but the battery optimisation is ridiculous. I wish there was a global way to turn it all off, without messing with it, WhatsApp stopped getting messages, DNS Ad-Blockers are a write-off, my google feed refreshes and reloads WHILE IM READING IT!! and basically leaving an app for more than 5 seconds makes it unload and reload when I come back. For instance, i'm on reddit is fun app, click a YT video, and when i press back after watching it, reddit app refreshes and i'm back at the front page, having lost my place.
I'm on nova launcher as well, took me a little minute to figure that one out!!!
I'm really annoyed about DNS ad blockers (VPNs) just not working. I want to use Blockada but even with every single 'keep alive' setting, and all battery optimisations off in app settings, it seems to just eventually freeze and kill the network connection entirely, wether wifi or mobile.
I bought it because my Moto G5S+ was away for repair (GPS) and was taking forever. I'm right on the edge of switching back because battery optimisation combined with horrible EMUI limitations is starting to really wind me up. It's my phone, let me manage it!
Oh i thought of another. Join SMS app doesn't work. Only the default app on huawei devices can write to the SMS database, so sending a text from join in chrome sends the text, with no record of it at all in the sms database, ie textra when you look on your phone. That's really bad for me, I hate typing on the phone and try to get around that as much as possible.