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What really is bothering me is that right after startup (when the unit has been powered up after starting the car) the entire system is in-cre-di-bly slow.
I often need to use the navigation app (e.g. Sygic in my case) and the unit's so laggy after startup that I need to wait for a couple of minutes with the engine running before the system is "up to speed".
After about a couple of minutes the unit works as it's supposed to: fast and responsive. OS and apps and all.
But after any shutdown that was long enough to force a full bootup (showing the startup logo's etc.) it's all slow and laggy again for the first couple of minutes after startup.
Sygic is pretty much the only additionally installed app, apart from the stock apps.
It is an Eonon (Klyde) GA6151F (for Mazda 3 2004-2009) with MCU version MTCC-KLD6-V2.97, and Android 5.1.1 (rk3188-userdebug 09082016.13:48:16) firmware.
Any tips as to overcome this?
Thanks a lot!!
JayRayMee.NL said:
What really is bothering me is that right after startup (when the unit has been powered up after starting the car) the entire system is in-cre-di-bly slow.
I often need to use the navigation app (e.g. Sygic in my case) and the unit's so laggy after startup that I need to wait for a couple of minutes with the engine running before the system is "up to speed".
After about a couple of minutes the unit works as it's supposed to: fast and responsive. OS and apps and all.
But after any shutdown that was long enough to force a full bootup (showing the startup logo's etc.) it's all slow and laggy again for the first couple of minutes after startup.
Sygic is pretty much the only additionally installed app, apart from the stock apps.
It is an Eonon (Klyde) GA6151F (for Mazda 3 2004-2009) with MCU version MTCC-KLD6-V2.97, and Android 5.1.1 (rk3188-userdebug 09082016.13:48:16) firmware.
Any tips as to overcome this?
Thanks a lot!!
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Upgrade SOM RAM ICs to 2gb was the answer for my MTCD. Others have commented disabling google services results in additional free memory.
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Upgrade SOM RAM ICs to 2gb was the answer for my MTCD. Others have commented disabling google services results in additional free memory.
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Can you please elaborate? How do I upgrade the RAM?
Thanks.
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Can you please elaborate? How do I upgrade the RAM?
Thanks.
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Theres no such thing as an "Eonon GA6151F" - Eonon are just a seller who mainly sell Klyde units you most probably have a Klyde MTCB or MTCC unit "Eonon GA6151F" so you ll be better off reading/posting in thread in the MTCB section because your unit is the same inside as the 1000s of other MTCB//C units made by 10s of different manufacturers and sold by 100s of different sellers. "GA6151F" is a made up name by Eonon and wont mean anything to anyone on here because we use manufacture names to identify units - this can be found in the settings/about device screen after the letters "MCU" - the numbers and letters tell us the manufacturer and MCU type.
Your ll find info on the 2GB RAM upgrade in the MTCB hardware mod forum.
Its probably also a good idea to read the wiki in my signature.
EDIT: I checked, you have an MTCC unit.
Hi
For my part i have a GA6163F from Eonon, which is the same device onboard (RK3188 MTCC) except for the screen (7 inch vs 8 inch).
Anyway, when i bought mine, I flashed the 5.1.1 ROM of Malaysk because I wanted to use TomTom on my device. It worked good but like you the unit was very slow on startup and i had to wait between 3 and 5 minutes before launch my TomTom app.
Last week I've seen that our unit (MTCC device) is compatible with a downgrade on Android 4.4.4. So I tested and it's UNBELIEVABLE ! The unit is really fast. Startup in 30 seconds, TomTom works really good, interface is really fluid.
So my tips is to flash this ROM :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70647239&postcount=6748
I was thinking about adding 1GB of RAM before but with this ROM, for my usage it's not necessary. I suggest you to take a look on it.
Cheers,
Airlink
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Hi
For my part i have a GA6163F from Eonon, which is the same device onboard (RK3188 MTCC) except for the screen (7 inch vs 8 inch).
Anyway, when i bought mine, I flashed the 5.1.1 ROM of Malaysk because I wanted to use TomTom on my device. It worked good but like you the unit was very slow on startup and i had to wait between 3 and 5 minutes before launch my TomTom app.
Last week I've seen that our unit (MTCC device) is compatible with a downgrade on Android 4.4.4. So I tested and it's UNBELIEVABLE ! The unit is really fast. Startup in 30 seconds, TomTom works really good, interface is really fluid.
So my tips is to flash this ROM :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70647239&postcount=6748
I was thinking about adding 1GB of RAM before but with this ROM, for my usage it's not necessary. I suggest you to take a look on it.
Cheers,
Airlink
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When I got mine it was on 4.4.4, I upgraded to 5.1.1 and find it fine, I ve also upgraded the RAM.
But the point of my post was to tell you that you dont have an Eonon GA6151F, because theres no such thing - you have a Klyde MTCC unit whihc is exactly the same as any other Klyde MTCC unit, apart from screen size, no matter whether its for a Ford, a BMW, an Audi or a universal unit like mine - theyre all the same inside.
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When I got mine it was on 4.4.4, I upgraded to 5.1.1 and find it fine, I ve also upgraded the RAM.
But the point of my post was to tell you that you dont have an Eonon GA6151F, because theres no such thing - you have a Klyde MTCC unit whihc is exactly the same as any other Klyde MTCC unit, apart from screen size, no matter whether its for a Ford, a BMW, an Audi or a universal unit like mine - theyre all the same inside.
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Well, I know that my device is a Klyde MTCC. Otherwise how would I know what ROM flash ? But you do well to specify it again to be absolutely clear for those who are not used to with this jargon.
I just wanted to point that before spend money or because you don't know to disassemble your device, there are others things which can be tested before adding 1GB of RAM. That's my opinion.
But, that you said is really interesting. I thought that Android 5.1.1 handle badly the RAM, but the problem is maybe the only 1GB RAM with this OS. For me Android 4.4.4 consume less of RAM and works better my 1GB.
Do you use some "big GPS apps" like TomTom or Sygic on your Klyde MTCC 2GB RAM ?
Really appreciate to share experiences with you to understand better how this device react to the OS and RAM.
Thanks,
Airlink
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Well, I know that my device is a Klyde MTCC. Otherwise how would I know what ROM flash ? But you do well to specify it again to be absolutely clear for those who are not used to with this jargon.
I just wanted to point that before spend money or because you don't know to disassemble your device, there are others things which can be tested before adding 1GB of RAM. That's my opinion.
But, that you said is really interesting. I thought that Android 5.1.1 handle badly the RAM, but the problem is maybe the only 1GB RAM with this OS. For me Android 4.4.4 consume less of RAM and works better my 1GB.
Do you use some "big GPS apps" like TomTom or Sygic on your Klyde MTCC 2GB RAM ?
Really appreciate to share experiences with you to understand better how this device react to the OS and RAM.
Thanks,
Airlink
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5.1.1 stores running apps in cache, so regularly clearing the cache helps overcome the lags with 1GB.
2GB can run all sorts of bigger spps, yes.
But my point, which you havent understood yet I think, is that there was no need to open a specific thread for your unit because it is the same as all the other MTCB/C units and if everyone did that then there would be literally 100,00s of thousands of threads about duplicate devices and problems. See ? You do not have a "GA5161F", you have an MTCB/C head unit made by Klyde !
Help with EONON unit RAM (too slow)
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Theres no such thing as an "Eonon GA6151F" - Eonon are just a seller who mainly sell Klyde units you most probably have a Klyde MTCB or MTCC unit "Eonon GA6151F" so you ll be better off reading/posting in thread in the MTCB section because your unit is the same inside as the 1000s of other MTCB//C units made by 10s of different manufacturers and sold by 100s of different sellers. "GA6151F" is a made up name by Eonon and wont mean anything to anyone on here because we use manufacture names to identify units - this can be found in the settings/about device screen after the letters "MCU" - the numbers and letters tell us the manufacturer and MCU type.
Your ll find info on the 2GB RAM upgrade in the MTCB hardware mod forum.
Its probably also a good idea to read the wiki in my signature.
EDIT: I checked, you have an MTCC unit.
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Could you please link to some specific content about RAM upgrade for a EONON head unit?
I've just got a EONON GA2186, and I find it very slow, both regarding to app running and responsiveness.
I've read something (this is my first contact whit this subject) and I guess I need to understand what is MTCC, PX3 and PX5, etc. Is it possible that you could guide a non-fluent in English through what I really need to know in order to have it running faster, without lag and more responsive to touch? What do I need to buy/change? A "core" or is there just the RAM part to replace?
I'll appreciate your help very much.
Thanks in advance.
You need to buy the RAM and then get it soldered onto the board, there are some threads in the hardware modification section.
I have the Eonon GA6163F radio in a Mazda 3 2012. Unfortunately, by playing with updates, I partially paralyzed the radio. Unfortunately, Eonon no longer has the appropriate software, so I need your help. Who has the right software for me?
Ich habe das Eonon GA6163F Radio in einem Mazda 3 2012.
Ich habe durch das Spielen mit Updates leider das Radio teilweise lahmgelegt. Eonon hat leider die passende Softwar nicht mehr, darum bin ich auf Eure Hilfe angewiesen. Wer hat die passende Software für mich?
Hey there.
Today I just wanted to buy an Ownice HU.
But then I found this XTRONS running Android 8.0 with a octa core and 4GB RAM.
Do you guys think it is worth a try or should i rather buy the Ownice?
Thanks for every answer
Hometrixx said:
Hey there.
Today I just wanted to buy an Ownice HU.
But then I found this XTRONS running Android 8.0 with a octa core and 4GB RAM.
Do you guys think it is worth a try or should i rather buy the Ownice?
Thanks for every answer
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I can't say anything about Ownice but the Xtrons is definitely worth its money. I have had two Erisin's and a Pumpkin but the Xtrons is my first HU which is working without any issues.
The only thing with Android 8 is that it came out a few weeks ago so it could be still a little bit buggy.
Hello
Yes, on paper it seems perfect, I just have a doubt about the quality of the product, knowing that the audience shines by its absence.
I hope that the conflicts Wifi / Bluetooth are not identical to TB706APL, without reliable internet connection, this new product is useless.
I'm curious about the xtrons also. I was going to buy a joying but saw the xtrons has 4gb of ram. I have both a 2gb and 4gb tablet with similar cpu's, and the 4gb tablet is far faster and more stable than the other one.
I installed the 10.1 version in my truck on Saturday. The model TE103P. So far I am very happy with it. I just need to figure how to get my Bluetooth ODBII adapter working.
The performance so far is impressive. It turns on extremely fast and I like the UI for now. Compared to the Joying I had before, the performance seems better.
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I just ordered the xtrons te706pl which shows px5 with 4gb ram and android 8.0. I got it off Amazon for $269.99 with free shipping. I was going to go with joying as it's seems to be the most popular company but 4gb vs 2gb is just to good to pass up. I have 2 tablets with the same Cpu, one has 2gb and the other is a 4gb. The 4gb is so much faster and more stable. 4gb just gives the tablet an easier time it seems.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B079...236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=xtrons+te706pl
Do you have any info, about what kind of amplifier Xtrons uses?
Written info is allover the place. Dasaita updated their hardware from TDA7851L to TDA7850, which is supposed to be better, but in their presentation graphics is still written TDA7851L. Since hardware between head units is practically the same, I assume XTRONS might use newer amplifier chip as well...Does anyone have a clue?
Which chipset us it actually? Looks nice, I'm thinking about replacement of a joying with 1 gb and kit Kat which has a really slow startup.
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messiah said:
Which chipset us it actually? Looks nice, I'm thinking about replacement of a joying with 1 gb and kit Kat which has a really slow startup.
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It's using the Rockchip octacore PX5 A 53 architecture 64 bit cpu and 4 gb DDR3 kingston memory.
It is also far way better than the Alwinne T8 which uses a A 7 architecture.
naplesbill said:
I installed the 10.1 version in my truck on Saturday. The model TE103P. So far I am very happy with it. I just need to figure how to get my Bluetooth ODBII adapter working.
The performance so far is impressive. It turns on extremely fast and I like the UI for now. Compared to the Joying I had before, the performance seems better.
Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
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Would you be so kind to share the make and model of your truck, I'm considering putting one of these in my Ford Excursion. I'm concerned about being able to adjust the display vertically.
Chetski said:
Would you be so kind to share the make and model of your truck, I'm considering putting one of these in my Ford Excursion. I'm concerned about being able to adjust the display vertically.
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It's a 2017 Ford F150. I will try to get some pics tomorrow.
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tabocaw said:
I just ordered the xtrons te706pl which shows px5 with 4gb ram and android 8.0. I got it off Amazon for $269.99 with free shipping. I was going to go with joying as it's seems to be the most popular company but 4gb vs 2gb is just to good to pass up. I have 2 tablets with the same Cpu, one has 2gb and the other is a 4gb. The 4gb is so much faster and more stable. 4gb just gives the tablet an easier time it seems.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B079...236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=xtrons+te706pl
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hello, I want to ask.. how good sound this new device?
because, I have read that sound sucks by older devices (joying, dasaita...)
Ive just got mine xtrons te706pl installed 3 days ago and it's doing great. The only problem I've had is getting logged out of spotify overnight. The install was a pain but I have a factory infinity system with amp. Overall I'm happy with the unit. It's pretty snappy and quick.
Hows the sound quality, any hissing sounds?
Sounds great but I already have a factory amp. But I think it sounds better than the factory stereo. I can't figure out how to root it though. Kingoroot doesn't work then I realized it's android 8.0 and might not be root able by it yet.
I was looking at this unit as well, does it have pre outs for front, rear, and sub? My current unit has a huge drop off in sound quality from youtube to pandora. I've asked about it and not found out if this is a common issue or not in the android units, but that is something that is a big turn off for me. I'm hoping the newer units have this fixed. also any quirks or anything else you've noticed about the unit? so far this one is on the top of my list of what i'll be purchasing next.
Hello
With a few days of use, what is your feedback experience.
Do you test the reliability of 3G or 4G internet connection, are there any cuts like on old units built with the PX5 card?
Is there still the bug that cuts the internet connection at each call reception due to a conflict between bluetooth and wifi?
Is there still an abominable echo during a phone conversation with the correspondent with bluetooth?
I read that it is possible to have two open applications with screen sharing, Waze example displayed on a half screen is it legible, street names ect ..
Thank you for your answers and sorry for the syntax because I use Google translation
cordially
I use my phone as a hotspot for my internet do I can't comment on 3g/4g. I did notice a horrible sound while im talking to someone though. It was a loud screeching noise throughout the call. I had no problem with either wifi or Bluetooth cutting out. I haven't tried to use split screen yet but I will and get back to you. Overall I'm very happy with my purchase. It works very well.
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Do you have any info, about what kind of amplifier Xtrons uses?
Written info is allover the place. Dasaita updated their hardware from TDA7851L to TDA7850, which is supposed to be better, but in their presentation graphics is still written TDA7851L. Since hardware between head units is practically the same, I assume XTRONS might use newer amplifier chip as well...Does anyone have a clue?
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TDA7851. 4x48W I believe. Better than Joying
snaggle2thtiger said:
I was looking at this unit as well, does it have pre outs for front, rear, and sub? My current unit has a huge drop off in sound quality from youtube to pandora. I've asked about it and not found out if this is a common issue or not in the android units, but that is something that is a big turn off for me. I'm hoping the newer units have this fixed. also any quirks or anything else you've noticed about the unit? so far this one is on the top of my list of what i'll be purchasing next.
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The sound quality is so much better than the stock unit. The EQ does an amazing job of bringing out the sound. I haven't notice any difference in YouTube or spotify. I don't use pandora. One quirk is I had a horrible squeaking noise when I had a phone call. I haven't looked into that yet. The other is I can't figure out where the developer options are. I've went to about in settings and hit the model 7 times. The unit says options activated but still can't find it. I wanted to root the device but haven't been able to.
Hi, i've found a lot of head units for a Peugeot 308 (year 2009). I need help to choise the "best one".
This is the link and model:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HIF...lgo_pvid=31b53a8f-29a2-4cea-9a05-00ef2b163d58 (model TN-G87047)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bel...lgo_pvid=31b53a8f-29a2-4cea-9a05-00ef2b163d58 (model BP3)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/7-i...lgo_pvid=31b53a8f-29a2-4cea-9a05-00ef2b163d58 (model M934)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/OTO...lgo_pvid=31b53a8f-29a2-4cea-9a05-00ef2b163d58 (model unknow)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Aut...lgo_pvid=31b53a8f-29a2-4cea-9a05-00ef2b163d58 (model ZW-P308)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Sei...lgo_pvid=31b53a8f-29a2-4cea-9a05-00ef2b163d58 (model S32634G)
I want to buy a px5 with 4 gb of ram and android 8 (not 8,.)
Have anyone one of this model? How i can find the model of sound processor (like BD375xx) or internal amp (TDAxxxx) or problem with bluetooth and wifi poor reception an so on? How i can find the true productor (GA, KGL,MX ecc)?
Hi Capu81 !
I own a Peugeot 308 (2009) too, and I bought the Belsee BP3 one.
I clearly do not advise you to buy this unit as it has several issues :
- the fascia doesn't match the 308 color and round radius. The grey color is a bit darker and flatter than the original as you can see on the picture :
- the CANBUS adapter that Belsee provide is a bit messy. It seems to be made for the Peugeot 2008 and doesn't fit 100% (the trip and service km counters have issues). It is also not pre configured to fit the 308, you will have to play in the advanced settings to find the CANBUS profile that suits your car.
- the unit is delivered without external buzzer wich means that your rear parking sensors won't beep anymore
I don't know the other devices you mention.
Please let us know wich one you've chosen and how the installation is going.
I will be pleased to share my experience with yours and know what CANBUS settings fit your 308 the best.
Bye
Damien
Hi Capu81,
You can view my model in youtube clip.
I recommend buying the unit with the volume button at the bottom, it fits much better than my model. My unit works very well, bluetooth ok, Radio ok, gps great (Waze, Maps, Here Maps)
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/HIFI...p-cial-pour-Peugeot-408-2010/32855688443.html
https://youtu.be/D7T_R93Uwlo
Than you to all !
I'll buy this
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/HIFI..._expid=31b53a8f-29a2-4cea-9a05-00ef2b163d58-0
It looks really cool.
Please let us know when you receive and install it
I have a MTCD PX5 device with 2gb ram and it came with Android 6.0.1 from factory. I'm thinking of upgrading to Android 9.0
Can someone tell me Advantages/Disadvantages of this upgrade path? I'm specifically curious about performance wise difference.
Is it worth it?
First. READ THE FORUM, flashing involves the risk of bricking your unit.
Second. AFTER reading a lot. upgrade the MCU to the latest version vesrsion
Third. use Malaysk or Hal9k roms ...look in the forum.
good luck
How is your device working right now?
I also have the PX5-2GB (the D version of MTC, not the E) and when I first got it (~2017) I found 0 latency on the user interface, and I was very happy with the responsiveness. I kept it updated until Hal-9K W/Android-9 earlier this year, and the lack of responsiveness / UI reaction time delay was so noticeable that I decided to go back to Android 8 (Hal9k again).
Honestly, the delay is still there (maybe a little bit better reaction times), and I actually though of moving back to Hal9K Android 9 to get the improvements on the GPS, but I got feed-up with all the install/set-up process and I am planning now on changing the unit.
I can not claim that there was a clear point in time when the unit got "broken", or a specific upgrade that broke it. I suspect that the main issue is not the Android version but the fact that the Apps (mainly Maps,Google Keyboard, and so on) become more resource-intensive after 4 years
So, in a nutshell:
1) If the unit is working well, the User Interface is responsive, and you do not notice lags, DO NOT TOUCH IT !!! (and pls let me know). The extra features you might get are not worth the risk of messing with your performance
2) If you already notice lags on heavy apps (like Maps), I'd recommend Hal9K on Android 9 as it has some features to make GPS response time faster (well, I think Malaysk has the same patches as well). I do not think lags / responsiveness will get worse, but surely not better. Again, I think is an issue more on the apps rather than the OS itself.
If you go ahead with the update, pls post the outcome on this thread. It would be useful for other people to hear from your experience.
By the way, most probably your bluetooth chip is not compatible with Android 10.
Hi everyone,
In 2017 I bought a Witson Android 6 quad-core PX3 unit from an European reseller. I was quite happy with the unit but after about one year it suddenly stopped at bootlogo. After several months of receiving nonworking advices on how to install new firmware I requested to get a new unit under warranty. Thereafter the whole discussion started to get ugly so I had to contact Witson directly in order to get the thing settled. Witson was kind enough to send a new unit.
The new unit is an Android 8 octa-core PX5 unit so I assumed it would have better performance than the old unit. After using it now for several months now I must say that it is worse than the old one,
- when installing additional software I could not get a stable connection to my wifi router 5m away, the wifi range is so poor that the only way to use it was to have my mobile phone as a hot-spot on the dashboard
- the radio reception is poor, only very strong stations work, all others suffer from frequent drop-outs
- the GPS is loosing the connection all the time and the navigation often goes completely nuts
The unit display info is,
Model px5(1024x600)
Android Version 8.0.0
Kernel version 4.4.93+ [email protected] #46
Build number px5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007 eng.hct.20190219.093540 test-keys
MCU version MTCE_MX2_V3.13_1
CPU 8 core 64-bit CPU Cortex-A53 @ 1.5G
Memory 3891 MB
And here is finally my question - from your experience/knowledge - are all the problems hardware related or can any of them be corrected by upgrading the firmware/software?
I have now got so frustrated and used so much time with these cheap Chinese Head Units that if no-one comes up with any positive information about what could be done I will rip the unit out of the dashboard and replace it wit a branded Alpine/Sony/Pioneer/Kenwood unit.
Thank you in advance for any comments.
Go for the branded head unit.
Weak wifi is not uncommon. Read the forum. Did you try an external antenna?
Bad radio reception. Does your car have a powered antenna and if so, did you apply power?
You may want to try 3rd party fimware, e.g. Malaysk. They tend to be more stable.
I have had a GS unit, sold by XTrons, for more than2 years without.significant prpblems. Using Malayak firmware.
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Weak wifi is not uncommon. Read the forum. Did you try an external antenna?
Bad radio reception. Does your car have a powered antenna and if so, did you apply power?
You may want to try 3rd party fimware, e.g. Malaysk. They tend to be more stable.
I have had a GS unit, sold by XTrons, for more than2 years without.significant prpblems. Using Malayak firmware.
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Thank you for your reply.
No I do not have an external antenna because there is no connector for it so I would have to open the unit and assemble one. I did not want to do that when I received the replacement unit in case the unit would have been faulty at arrival. Now I suppose I have to look for info about the issue.
Yes the antenna is powered and the power is connected. I missed the antenna power connection when I installed the first unit and had to remove it and connect the antenna power so I know for sure that it is connected now.
Does the Malaysk or Hal9k firmwares have modifications that make the units work technically better or are the modifications only in the user interface? Anyone have information on this?