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I hope I posted this in the right section, I wasn't sure where a question about MicroSDHC cards would go here.
By the way, I live in the US.
I have been Googling this for days now, and coulden't find any conclusive information, especially since most of it was from random tech blogs and not respected tech/research sites.
I am looking to buy two MicroSDHC cards to use in a Photofast CR-5400 ( http://www.amazon.com/PhotoFast-CR-5400-MicroSD-Adapter-Dual/dp/B001I0T92Q ), speed and performance are pretty important as I will he handling a lot of data through it.
First of all before I start, anybody familiar with this adapter? Where would be the best place to purchase one so I don't wind up with a Hong-Kong bootleg? Ive had trouble purchasing flash memory online before from places like Amazon or Ebay where the memory was a bootleg that didn't perform anything like the real thing.
Now, I know that Memory Stick Pro DUO devices are generally faster than SD or SDHC devices, but AFAIK that device sets them up in a RAID 0 configuration so I am hoping that will help, this is why im trying to get the best performance MicroSDHC cards I can afford. And trying to get reliable information on these things has been a lesson in confusion.
First of all, it almost seems like the class speeds don't matter. Ive seen benchmarks that showed class 4 or class 2 cards outperform a class 6. Whats the point of these classes if they are so meaningless? How can a class 2 device have faster write speeds than a class 6? And is this classification only for writing or reading too? Why are the "ultra" models of some cards, which are supposed to be very high speed, listed as class 4?
Second, I heard that there are other variables that usually are not listed anywhere, such as Random Access Times, which from what I read are internal processes taking place in the card itself rather than having anything to do with the card reading/writing to whatever it is plugged into. And I really have no idea what else could be a factor.
I was looking at THIS Transcend card ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208475 ) mainly because the previous 8GB version ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453 ) seems to be the best one you can possibly get, the 8GB model is class 6, rated as very high speed, and even has a low Random Access Time. But that doesn't mean that just because the previous model was good, the next one will be of the same quality, and on top of that I don't know if it'll even matter in that Photofast adapter or not. Not to mention its kinda pricey, don't forget that I will need to buy two as well as the adapter (though since the 16GB Memory Sticks came out at over $200 and they are barely around $100 now, and the 32GB still isn't out yet, I am going to assume it will still be at least $50 cheaper than just buying a 32GB Memory Stick............ when they come out).
So what would you recommend I do? Where can I find information that makes sense of this? Where can I find good benchmarks/testing done on these cards that on top of speed measures the other factors as well? Where would be the best place in the US, retail or online, to purchase such a 16GB MicroSDHC card for the best price?
Thank you for your time.
what are you using the Memory card for? (what application, video/photo taking, loading applications...)
Class X just says the minimum write speeds on an empty(defragmented) card... 2 means 2MB/s write, 4 means 4MB/s etc...
some SDHC cards also come with another rating... 133x that says max 20MB/s speed, depending on the manufacturer, that may be write or read speed
best place to buy is directly from Newegg/Tigerdirect, or from Amazon fulfilled by Amazon itself or a reputable merchant
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what are you using the Memory card for? (what application, video/photo taking, loading applications...)
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As I said, I will be using it in my PSP.
Patriot 8gb class 4- very slow from pc to card ???
Anyone having any current luck with Patriot 8GB Class 4 micro sd's?
I copied everything from my PNY 2GB to my netbook. Very quick as expected...
Formatted the Patriot FAT32. Tried to copy back to the 8GB from the netbook and it was painfully slow. So slow it is not usable.
Both pc and Tilt recognizes the Patriot as 8gb.
Anyone having similar problems or any suggestions?
Possible formatting issue... No more Patriot SDHC.
I think I got it...
Took about 12-15 minutes to copy back to card.
It appears to be a formatting problem with the XP fomatting.
Used this... http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/
Tried the Wife's new HP laptop (school issued) last night and had the same problem. That pointed me to a possible card issue.
Moral of the story- google is your friend.
Just to be safe, I would stay away from Patriot's 8GB C4 cards.
I would just try another brand of microsd card. Sandisk are reputable but usually the most expensive, though on amazon 8gb cards can be had for less than 20 bucks. Kingston is another good brand.
I'm going to buy a 16GB microsd card from sandisk. I've been finding on Amazon and found these two products:
Sandisk 16GB Mobile Ultra MicroSD Card : £36.00
SanDisk 16GB microSDHC Memory Card : £15.99
I've also noticed they're all class 2 (can't find a class 4 or class 6 sandisk). So what is the difference between them? I'm using the card for Windows Phone 7, so which one should I buy?
Ha, i'm looking to buy a 16Gb card for my htc desire and I was looking at exactly the same cards.
As far as I found so far the ultra version seems to be class 4.
If you have any new info it will me much appreciated.
well in some pages you can find comparative boxes about those micro sd, i remember that microsd 16 gb sandisk (class4) is more faster than 16 gb kingtons class4 , so i supousse that this ultra micro sd is like class 6 real XD, i will find some information about it, oh plz don't forget that some devices don't support those kind of micro sd (an example htc hd2 has little bugs with microsd class 4, i have one...)
Sorry if i don't write well but i'm peruavian =)
Hey guys,
Can any of you confirm if Android is booting from Sandisk 16GB Mobile Ultra MicroSD Card ?
I want to buy one but i saw in forums that some cards doesn't work for this..
the ultra one has the better speed and more stable than the normal one. And, it has the same compatitablity.
So, if you are not concern about the price, the ultra one is the better choice.
Also, that should have the extreme III type, that is the best~
Go for the Ultra microSD, it's faster!! been using a 8Gig on my phone and damn its fast!!
16GB Sandisk Micro SDHC
I'm currently using 16GB Sandisk Micro SDHC (class 4) for my LG P500. It is fast & I have not encountered any issues so far.
I've been using Sandisk memory cards for other gadgets & I think it is one of the most reliable brands that is available in my location.
With sandisk/kingston, class 2 should be fine too. CLASS 4 might help recording high def video
Stick with the name brands and forget the Chinese non name brand off off of Flea-bay, they are crap and do not work imho!!
The more expensive cards are usually just higher speed.
I use fast cards in my DSLR to help when shooting bursts. Slower cards fill up, and drop the fps.
I'm currently using 16GB Sandisk Micro SDHC
Go for the Ultra microSD, it's faster!!
You should choose your memory card depending on what you're going to use it for. Either way, you should go with Sandisk cards, as they are the highest quality and produce their own chips. Kingstons should be avoided even though for some reason they are known as a quality brand... kingston just buys chips from other manufacturers and puts their name on them.... you will find many different kinds of chips inside kingston, so you will find more variation and defects from batch to batch.
As far as class, that is only referring to the sequential write speed. If you are getting the card for a digital camera, then a high class card is good, because you will be writing a lot of files sequentially.
But if you plan on using the card for WP7 or to run android of off, generally a class 2 or 4 card is better, because they have better random access speeds. The tweaks card makers do to make cards have higher sequential write speeds many times will lower the random access speed, so you will have more issues running WP7 or Android off of a class 6 or 10 card.
for 8gb ultra i got with usb2.0 card reader : 13mb/s write , 20.5mb/s read
I know the thread is old, but still.
zarathustrax said:
You should choose your memory card depending on what you're going to use it for. Either way, you should go with Sandisk cards, as they are the highest quality and produce their own chips. Kingstons should be avoided even though for some reason they are known as a quality brand... kingston just buys chips from other manufacturers and puts their name on them.... you will find many different kinds of chips inside kingston, so you will find more variation and defects from batch to batch.
As far as class, that is only referring to the sequential write speed. If you are getting the card for a digital camera, then a high class card is good, because you will be writing a lot of files sequentially.
But if you plan on using the card for WP7 or to run android of off, generally a class 2 or 4 card is better, because they have better random access speeds. The tweaks card makers do to make cards have higher sequential write speeds many times will lower the random access speed, so you will have more issues running WP7 or Android off of a class 6 or 10 card.
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I know thread is too old to write anything. But still (since google pointed me here)...
I've used both types of cards and have found that Sandisc ultra (Red & Black) is far better in speeds and reliability than the Sandisc simple/normal black colour chips. Also know that there are further/more better than ultra, called by Sandisc as extreme and Extreme Pro.
Also warranty for all is same: Lifetime. And Sandisc provided me a new chip within 25 days after my old 32 normal chip went faulty.
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I would always buy a class 10 card, because when you copy your photos it doesn't take so much time...
I discovered - the hard way - that "normal" class 2 or 4 MicroSD cards won't stay alive very long on Samsung Note 4 or similar phones... One day they stop working and all pictures and info is lost forever. The only MicroSD that can get the job done is a Class 10 UHC Sandisk card. I have used Kingston and all died only after a few months, specially if you install apps on them. They can´t handle the workload and you will end up losing everything you have on them. I have one of the red and gray Sandisk cards and it's awesome. It's fast and it's still working after 2 and a half years of use in a Sony Xperia Z2. Gotta love this little tough card.
Question for everyone here,
What is your recommendation for a high quality, affordable 32 gigabyte micro sd card? Is class ten necessary? So what do you recommend?
I appreciate the feedback,
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Is C10 needed...depends on what type of performance you want and what you use your phone for. If you are using your card to run/store your apps, then yes a C10 is the fastest (as of this moment). You will also notice a difference on looking back at your pictures as well as camera/camcorder performance when using the maxed out settings.
Is C10 needed..no, but if you have the funds I would go that route. I have two C10 cards and have had good performance from them (Patriot 16G - PNY 16G). I would stay away from Transcend branded cards due to my experience with them. They (from reviews and personal experience) tend to not like ext2=>ext3 upgrades.
Micro Center and Fryes usually have pretty good prices and are legit, be careful if you go the ebay/amazon route, kind of a slot pull if you will.
Enjoy the many options out there and all the best in making your decision.
Wintecs are fairly decent, 32gb class 10 for 65$ on newegg.com ; have one on order.
Class 10 isn't NEEDED, but they provided faster read/write speeds, and its always appreciated.
I usually look for something with good reviews on Amazon. The on etime I bought a big SD card on eBay, the card didn't work at all. However, the Chinese seller did refund my money with no fuss or hassle.
First do yourself a favor and tape your micro SD card to the phone with a little piece of Scotch tape. I received the 200GB SanDisk Ultra for free when I purchased the V10 and unfortunately while swapping batteries in the dark the Micro SD card came loose and fell out. Huge bummer given the cost.
Spilled milk aside I've decided to replace it with a Samsung Evo Plus 256 GB micro SD (true usable 238). They can be had on ebay for about $70-90. The 200 GB SanDisk Ultra is about the same. Crazy because these things were nearly $200 early in 2015. I happened to have 64 GB Samsung Pro but quickly filled it up with my YouTube Red subscription and Google Play movies and surprisingly there weren't as many videos as I thought would fit. So I figure go for the big Kahuna.
I decided on Samsung after reading that they had had a better track record with stability than SanDisk.
Anyone else using the 256 Samsung how good is 95mb/s for a power user phone like this? Is there lag? There seems to be a great deal of variance in performance for micro SD which does not entirely square with price.
I am pretty sure most Note 7 users have 256s.... Me & My wife have them installed. Haven't run test. It works... Holds all my pics, movies and roms.
95 (MB) OR (Mb)/s. Huge difference. And I don't know of any phone that will do the rated MB. I usually get 12-25MB out of my 128/200GB cards, usually around 15ish. That translates to about 96Mb-160Mb/s. The new UFS cards Samsung started talking about will probably get close to SATA3 speeds which amounts to around 500MB/s, which in real life will probably mean a out 3-400MB/s and I am being optimistic. Nonetheless when phones start coming out with UFS micro slots they should be as snappy as internal storage, mostly. Random IOPS will probably be a lot better but less than 100MB/s I would guess.
And I am talking about phones. Rated speeds will usually be about 20-50% of advertised speed. Closer to 80% or so in a computer. OEM's tend not put the best hardware for micro SD cards in phones. I would guess because of real estate and possibly heat and battery. Nonetheless, I hadn't planned on buying the V20 but the multimedia capabilites were too hard to pass up and my final cost after promotions and a couple of phone sales will probably be less than $400. If I include amps and DACs closer to $200. My next phone will have UFS for micro slot. No doubt.
Won't UFS come at a much higher cost premium and will the practical speed improvement for phone storage really justify the cost if the prices for these huge capacity micro SD's are collapsing?
ebay... microsdcard.... "remembering buying memorystick and it was fake"... -_-
Just ran a benchmark on my Samsung Evo plus 256. Got 80 MB/s read, 40 write.
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The new microSDs are rated pretty fast. 90mb/s both read and write
I'm just uncertain if the v20 is able to make use of these speeds.
ie. is the v20 the bottle neck?
If I remember, seeing that UHS 3 cards have two rows of pins on them for faster transfer speeds, but I don't believe any phone supports that second row of pins yet.
Oh yea i forgot to mention that i almost had a similar incident you had. Upon recalling my note 7 I put my memory card in that plastic casting and in my pocket.... somehow the memcard slip out and out of my pocket.. Luckily after searching around I call best buy and ask my old coworkers if they see any memcard around and they did =D... it be bad if they didn't.....
Maybe ill lost this here as I didnt get much feedback in the questions section. I have a 128 gb SDXC micro sd that worked fine on my v10 but isnt even showing up as a option on my v20 . the settings app only shows internal storage. I really dont want to format it but guess might have to . but I have a lot of files on there and don't want to transfer them as even deleted on a computer they still leave a trace
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Was that sd card encrypted on the V10? If it was you can only read on the device you encrypted with.
Sent from a TMo V20
Yeah the reason you see those cards for that cheap is because Samsung flooded the market with 256gb cards with the Note 7 and then S7/Edge promo where they gave them for free. I have 2(one in my V20) and am selling my second one (hopefully today) for $80
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Yeah the reason you see those cards for that cheap is because Samsung flooded the market with 256gb cards with the Note 7 and then S7/Edge promo where they gave them for free. I have 2(one in my V20) and am selling my second one (hopefully today) for $80
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LG figured rather than offer another free 200 GB SanDisk card the V20 buyers can buy all those Samsung 256 GB cards flooding Ebay and sell the B&O headphones to offset. Thanks Samsung!
Download this app once you buy a new micro SD.
It tells if what you got is really what you paid for
SD insight
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Was that sd card encrypted on the V10? If it was you can only read on the device you encrypted with.
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No I dont encrypt my sd cards. But I can read it in the v10 which I sold and on ny computer.
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does anyone here use a SanDisk EXTREME® PLUS 128 GB microSD™ UHS-I class V30 CARD?? wanna know if its compatible with V20. appreciate your feedback and response, thank you!
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does anyone here use a SanDisk EXTREME® PLUS 128 GB microSD™ UHS-I class V30 CARD?? wanna know if its compatible with V20. appreciate your feedback and response, thank you!
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All micro sd cards are compatible with the V20.
I can confirm that V20 can't read micro SD UFS-1. I bought Samsung 128GB micro SD EVO+ and Kingston 128GB micro SD UFS-1, but both can't be detected by V20. I feel very strange and confirm that these two card can be read by V10.
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I can confirm that V20 can't read micro SD UFS-1. I bought Samsung 128GB micro SD EVO+ and Kingston 128GB micro SD UFS-1, but both can't be detected by V20. I feel very strange and confirm that these two card can be read by V10.
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You have defectives cards
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You have defectives cards
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Wrong! These two cards are brand new and can be used on PC ,V10 or my wife"s Samsung Note 3. Unfortunately, my V20 can't support them.
Hey guys,
I can't seem to find any detailed information about memory card support on galaxy A5 2017. I was thinking about buying a microsd UHS-3 class 10, is it supported? or waste of money? i heard good opinions about this specific one: Samsung 64GB 100MB/s (U3) MicroSDXC EVO
but again, i'm no expert in the matter. My goal is to install apps on it, not much photos. I want the fastest card, i hate lag
thanks in advance
Well there are 2 slots on the phone : one for the sim card (obviously) and the other one for the memory card.
amithiel said:
Hey guys,
I can't seem to find any detailed information about memory card support on galaxy A5 2017. I was thinking about buying a microsd UHS-3 class 10, is it supported? or waste of money? i heard good opinions about this specific one: Samsung 64GB 100MB/s (U3) MicroSDXC EVO
but again, i'm no expert in the matter. My goal is to install apps on it, not much photos. I want the fastest card, i hate lag
thanks in advance
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Yes @amithiel A5 2017 supports UHS 3 memory card and the limit is 256gb. However I wouldn't recommend spending so much on UHS 3 as these cards are useful only for high end cameras like go pro and security cams. On phone you wouldnt find much difference. Telling from experience. I am using 64gb UHS grade 3. And it give me 25 mpbs transfer speed when transfering files from pc to sd card when it is connected through phone. And gives 35~38mbps speed when directly connected to pc through card reader.
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I generally get 128g SD chips for my phones. Haven't filled one yet!
amithiel said:
Hey guys,
I can't seem to find any detailed information about memory card support on galaxy A5 2017. I was thinking about buying a microsd UHS-3 class 10, is it supported? or waste of money? i heard good opinions about this specific one: Samsung 64GB 100MB/s (U3) MicroSDXC EVO
but again, i'm no expert in the matter. My goal is to install apps on it, not much photos. I want the fastest card, i hate lag
thanks in advance
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If you want to use adoptable storage, you would need the fast class 10 card, slower cards simply don't work well enough. Even if you just run apps off it, the extra speed is worth it. <It is not that much more than slower cards, maybe 10-20% more ... in Canada at any rate.>