Hi,
since several years i had samsung S... but two days ago i bought pixel 2 xl. I remember when i had nexus 5 was very a lot of customrom's. Today is very poor. Why ?
2. question. Do you have factory image or customroom. if custom, which is the best ? have many add funcionality ? perhaps i must to think xposed + gravitybox for a8.1?
What solution You use it ?
Big thx for answers.
sorry for my poor English but i learning all the time
ds78 said:
Hi,
since several years i had samsung S... but two days ago i bought pixel 2 xl. I remember when i had nexus 5 was very a lot of customrom's. Today is very poor. Why ?
2. question. Do you have factory image or customroom. if custom, which is the best ? have many add funcionality ? perhaps i must to think xposed + gravitybox for a8.1?
What solution You use it ?
Big thx for answers.
sorry for my poor English but i learning all the time
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The A/B partitions on the P2XL make development much more difficult, therefore, not as many. However, there are some very good ones out there. DU, Nitrogen, Carbon, and RR to name a few. I personally use stock + root with substratum themes, and that's good enough for me. I used to do the custom rom scene a lot, however, I just don't see the benefits as much as I used to. Not to mention I don't have as much down time or bug chasing to do with my device anymore. But that's just my opinion
As @Badger50 said, the A/B system makes development a challenge. But the recovery being part of the boot image doesn't help.
I run a stock ROM, rooted of course. I find the few features I needed from custom ROMs in the past can easily be handled by apps, so there is no point in me using a custom ROM until Google no longer supports the device. By that time I should be on the Pixel 4 XL.
Now, what custom ROM is best is subjective because your needs won't be the same as mine. You'll need to try the ROMs out for yourself to answer that question as well as the question you have about their features.
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Hello developers!
I am not savvy at all on programming but I had a question. Would it be possible to port the Google Pixel ROM to the HTc 10? I know the Pixel is made by HTC and the specs are pretty similar. I would not be able to do it because I have no clue. I was just curious if it would be possible (without a astronomical amount of work).
Thanks for any replys.
Good question, possible probably, how long and how much work. Well that's another question that requires someone with the ability.
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razrlover said:
Good question, possible probably, how long and how much work. Well that's another question that requires someone with the ability.
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So you don't have an answer and just spoke for the sake of speaking. :good:
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So you don't have an answer and just spoke for the sake of speaking. :good:
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question itself was really a discussion point not an actual question when you are asking nougat to be ported to htc 10 when mm hasn't yet been ported or even the pixel is yet to launch on many countries/areas/stores
pixel rom is vanilla nougat so the answer given was a discussion point again which is :good:
SacredDeviL666 said:
question itself was really a discussion point not an actual question when you are asking nougat to be ported to htc 10 when mm hasn't yet been ported or even the pixel is yet to launch on many countries/areas/stores
pixel rom is vanilla nougat so the answer given was a discussion point again which is :good:
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MM is what the device shipped with.
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MM is what the device shipped with.
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not vanilla MM its shipped with Sense based on MM...
google devices/roms are on aosp/vanilla/cm android and none of them of MM is yet ported to htc 10... you could see the progress of cm ports currently on htc dev threads
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So you don't have an answer and just spoke for the sake of speaking. :good:
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I concur with @SacredDeviL666, good discussion point indeed.
And yes sometimes i speak or text to carry on a point just for the sake of it.
**Sometimes it brings others into the conversation, and the people that have the ability could be the others.
**Sometimes that's the and.
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SacredDeviL666 said:
question itself was really a discussion point not an actual question when you are asking nougat to be ported to htc 10 when mm hasn't yet been ported or even the pixel is yet to launch on many countries/areas/stores
pixel rom is vanilla nougat so the answer given was a discussion point again which is :good:
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SacredDeviL666 said:
not vanilla MM its shipped with Sense based on MM...
google devices/roms are on aosp/vanilla/cm android and none of them of MM is yet ported to htc 10... you could see the progress of cm ports currently on htc dev threads
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You didn't say vanilla MM the first time around. The 10 shipped with Marshmallow and had access to the full feature set of Marshmallow. I know very well what AOSP is. It's exciting the sort of progress that's being done on CM, despite the calm of late.
Also, Pixel isn't Vanilla. It has added apps/features that will not be on Nexus devices, and are beyond AOSP. The Pixel ROM is a skinned Android.
There's actually a Pixel ROM made for the Nexus devices now! Can anyone port this? The link is for the Nexus 5X --> https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/development/rom-pixelmod-lg-nexus-5x-t3486862
With lineage, resurrection remix and some other vanilla roms, not to mention certain parts of the pixel like the launcher and I think the dialer have been made avaliable, there isn't a massive demand for it.. Not when there isn't really any difference between the two.
Perhaps the so called added apps and features to be added would be a better question and probably one with a more probable positive outcome.
@SacredDeviL666 Let me just hop in with the statement that Pixel ROM is not vanilla Android. Its close, but its not. Nexuses had vanilla Android. Having a custom skin (Pixel Launcher) and additions to the system that aren't part of the AOSP or available to all other OEMs makes the Pixel equal to Sense, TouchWiz, EMUI etc...
In a way, asking to port Pixel ROM is like to ask if someone could port TouchWiz ROM. You can imagine how hard it would be to port TouchWiz.
BUT, unlike other skinned ROMs, Pixel apps can easily be installed onto other devices.
As a conclusion, for a close-as-possible Pixel ROM, use the most vanilla AOSP ROM you can find,
and only install Gapps and apps that arent part of that package but belong to Pixel, like the launcher.
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@SacredDeviL666 Let me just hop in with the statement that Pixel ROM is not vanilla Android. Its close, but its not. Nexuses had vanilla Android. Having a custom skin (Pixel Launcher) and additions to the system that aren't part of the AOSP or available to all other OEMs makes the Pixel equal to Sense, TouchWiz, EMUI etc...
In a way, asking to port Pixel ROM is like to ask if someone could port TouchWiz ROM. You can imagine how hard it would be to port TouchWiz.
BUT, unlike other skinned ROMs, Pixel apps can easily be installed onto other devices.
As a conclusion, for a close-as-possible Pixel ROM, use the most vanilla AOSP ROM you can find,
and only install Gapps and apps that arent part of that package but belong to Pixel, like the launcher.
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Pretty sure it's not impossible since it was ported to the Nexus 6P, 5X, 6, 9 and not sure what other so it can be done!
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Pretty sure it's not impossible since it was ported to the Nexus 6P, 5X, 6, 9 and not sure what other so it can be done!
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Never said its impossible, just that there's no need to port the ROM because you get most features by just installing Pixel apps onto your phone.
Some other things, that are Pixel exclusives, a bit harder to port. Or we may need to implement those from scratch. Also, the phones you mentioned are all Nexus devices
with drivers available. If you try to port to another OEM you will probably have part of hardware not working or working but laggy.
Pixel is made in perfect sync with software and hardware, and we don't know what optimizations did Google do for their phone under the hood.
So recently I have purschased a 3T (after my Galaxy S6 exploded) and it's coming to my hands really soon. The question I'm asking myself right now is whether that amazing device is worth rooting. The question is quite bizarre in my case since I am an Android enthusiast and so far I have rooted EVERY SINGLE device I have owned. I also used to be a ROM/kernel developer as well back in the Xperia Arc/HOX/N4/5 days and root was simply essential for me especially that I loved playing around with Android. Referring to my last choice - Galaxy S6 (which replaced my old might Nexus 5) just had to be rooted. I came to Samsung from CLEAN Android experience and no matter how hard I tried I just couldn't make it with tons of Touchwiz bloatware slowing my device down. Now, I have reached the point when I am not really this sure if I'll be rooting OP3T. Now, I just expect a device to be flawless in everyday usage and simply reliable. Any tips? Is it really worth rooting OP3T and sacrificing Oxygen OS OTAs? Or maybe the custom ROMs out there are so outstanding that it's just a must do. Thanks in advance
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So recently I have purschased a 3T (after my Galaxy S6 exploded) and it's coming to my hands really soon. The question I'm asking myself right now is whether that amazing device is worth rooting. The question is quite bizarre in my case since I am an Android enthusiast and so far I have rooted EVERY SINGLE device I have owned. I also used to be a ROM/kernel developer as well back in the Xperia Arc/HOX/N4/5 days and root was simply essential for me especially that I loved playing around with Android. Referring to my last choice - Galaxy S6 (which replaced my old might Nexus 5) just had to be rooted. I came to Samsung from CLEAN Android experience and no matter how hard I tried I just couldn't make it with tons of Touchwiz bloatware slowing my device down. Now, I have reached the point when I am not really this sure if I'll be rooting OP3T. Now, I just expect a device to be flawless in everyday usage and simply reliable. Any tips? Is it really worth rooting OP3T and sacrificing Oxygen OS OTAs? Or maybe the custom ROMs out there are so outstanding that it's just a must do. Thanks in advance
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No i dont think so. Oxygenos is simply smooth you hardly find lag and 6gb is just enough. All my family members using oneplus 3 and 3t. Except me nobody has rooted it. But the performance is so awesome you dont need to root the phone
Btw oneplus warranty includes rooted devices
abhi0502 said:
No i dont think so. Oxygenos is simply smooth you hardly find lag and 6gb is just enough. All my family members using oneplus 3 and 3t. Except me nobody has rooted it. But the performance is so awesome you dont need to root the phone
Btw oneplus warranty includes rooted devices
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Even for AdAway, Greenify or SDMaid? Those were quite essential apps for me especially on the crappy GS6. SDMaid could do wonders to put it back to smooth work.
If you find those apps useful, then it's worth it.
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If you find those apps useful, then it's worth it.
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Exactly.
For what it is worth, I was a huge AdAway user. I've gotten around it by using Dolphin browser with ad blocking extension. Works every bit as effectively as AdAway for web browsing. Sure, I have to deal with a few ads in some apps, but this is a minor annoyance for me.
I have had the phone since June and never once felt the need to root. As stated earlier, OOS is simply brilliant.
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Try YuBrowser on this phone. It's optimized for our Snapdragon and comes with a lot of security. I also use SDMaid.
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Even for AdAway, Greenify or SDMaid? Those were quite essential apps for me especially on the crappy GS6. SDMaid could do wonders to put it back to smooth work.
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You don't need greenify bcoz oxygenos has built-in hibernating tool. For blocking ads use can use a adguard which do not required a rooted phone. As far sd maid is concerned i have not used it so i cant comment on that.
If you root the phone and oneplus released a new update you can flash the update ( but u need flash updated full rom available from oneplus website) through twrp. You dont need oneplus recovery.
Morning guys, it's been a while since my last visit to that section of XDA, (apologize in advance for my english) and i noticed nothing changed, no new roms or development
Isn't that sad? i mean, i'm not pretending that everyone MUST develop for such an old phone but some of the "latest" roms here are still bugged due to a no-more developing, yeah, i know, is an old and not popular device but mine is still working and not having a smooth and fresh-looking rom makes me think, is the end for that device? it's my secondary phone now and i'm just thinking loud voice.
Just think that Note 2 have better stable and newer rom and more development, i use a nougat-based rom (DotOS)on my note 2 and prefer use that one instead of note 3 neo, because is quicker, smoother and updated, at least it runs Nougat, a not-bugged and full working version...
Thanks reading my thought.
who else love it
I thought there was gonna be a "but" on the text lol. I do love it too, I came to this phone from a Pocophone and the only thing i miss is the custom ROMs development on the Oneplus 7T.
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I thought there was gonna be a "but" on the text lol. I do love it too, I came to this phone from a Pocophone and the only thing i miss is the custom ROMs development on the Oneplus 7T.
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I came from pocophone too. Lack of development is kinda disappointing, and i recently saw that delevopers said "TWRP may never come because of the new partition layout on android 10".
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I came from pocophone too. Lack of development is kinda disappointing, and i recently saw that delevopers said "TWRP may never come because of the new partition layout on android 10".
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Don't know if it's never gonna come or devs just haven't had the time to work on it. I read on their blog that the primary dev was having his child born and coudn't work on it. Also if I'm not mistaken the only phones with Android 10 out of the box as of right now are the Pixel 4 series and the Oneplus 7T series so not a lot to work on. Wait until Xiaomi, Samsung and more brands release Android 10 by default and I think development of TWRP on this new kind of partition system is gonna get more attention. That is why I'm hopeful that development for this phone can get more attention "soon-ish".
I like it alot wish there was more development tho
If google would just make something this quality i would buy one of their phones already. I was dissapointed in the looks of the pixel 4. They cheaped out on their components to maximize profits and its obvious. I have been mostly happy with the oneplus 7t but it has had some serious quirks too. I have had to reset mine several times and I am dealing with gps issues constantly.
I mostly love my OnePlus 7t. Though it has some issues. That need addressed. Also the lack of customization options is irritating coming from a custom ROM standpoint.
Love my 7T
Can't wait for TWRP to de-google this phone, but outside of that I totally love it. Although, to be fair this is my very first 'smart' phone so I really have nothing to compare it to. I think it's pretty damn great, actually.
Love the phone? hate the lack of development for it ?
I like it but will definitely hold off on next purchase to make sure development is more active. Luckily oxygen os is pretty decent, but still leaves a lot to be desired.
Can you guys tell me, what exactly you lack of for customization features? No offense, just out of curiosity.
I am flashing all of the devices in my household since the HTC desire days, like for the past 5..6..7 years or so... Constantly looking for the optimal ROM for me or my fiance's use case, tinkering with custom kernels, governer settings, blocking wakelocks... Whatsoever.
This is the first device I am happy with while it is just unlocked and rooted witch only a 1 magisk module active. For me android and OSS has come such a long way that all I build in aftermarket is now integrated in stock. Now it is just rooted, debloated and adfree. That's it for me. Although I somehow miss the long nights of flashing and trying out multiple stuff one after another, but also life gets more serious and time consumable so it's ok for me. I guess same for most of the gurus from the old days.. lol
I now can do my hobby more or less for a living, so no need to do it in my free time anymore...
What do you guys think? Is it just my feeling that the development branch somehow radically changed?
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I love this phone I installed Omni via adb and never looked back. I really want to get a lineage build on it but the builds I tried to make are very broken.
xe0r said:
Can you guys tell me, what exactly you lack of for customization features? No offense, just out of curiosity.
I am flashing all of the devices in my household since the HTC desire days, like for the past 5..6..7 years or so... Constantly looking for the optimal ROM for me or my fiance's use case, tinkering with custom kernels, governer settings, blocking wakelocks... Whatsoever.
This is the first device I am happy with while it is just unlocked and rooted witch only a 1 magisk module active. For me android and OSS has come such a long way that all I build in aftermarket is now integrated in stock. Now it is just rooted, debloated and adfree. That's it for me. Although I somehow miss the long nights of flashing and trying out multiple stuff one after another, but also life gets more serious and time consumable so it's ok for me. I guess same for most of the gurus from the old days.. lol
I now can do my hobby more or less for a living, so no need to do it in my free time anymore...
What do you guys think? Is it just my feeling that the development branch somehow radically changed?
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I agree. Since I left HTC (the M9 being he last one) I have not had the need to flash a custom ROM. Was on a Nokia 8 previously and the vanilla-ish android was good. I only missed the weather clock and mail app from HTC - but they are going down sadly so had to jump ship. Left Nokia as they launched too many phones and were not fixing bugs on their ex-flagships - promised to fixed their camera app but never came for example.
With the 7T I have to say I hardly have any complaint. Customisations are great and the phone is amazing. Adjusting the bokeh blur (live bokeh) would have been great even if it was after taking the photo but nothing else to complain about to be fair.
I do miss the old late nights flashing ROMS though - but like you say, life is different now. I haven't even rooted the Nokia and 7T! haha
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This is the first device I am happy with while it is just unlocked and rooted witch only a 1 magisk module active.
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Same for me! Running latest stable OSS (10.0.12) with xXx Rom/Module and thats it. Happy as I've been with any of my other OnePlus phones
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Same for me! Running latest stable OSS (10.0.12) with xXx Rom/Module and thats it. Happy as I've been with any of my other OnePlus phones
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May I ask what version of xXx Rom/Module you are using for our OnePlus 7T?
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May I ask what version of xXx Rom/Module you are using for our OnePlus 7T?
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the latest: 12.0
hectorviov said:
I thought there was gonna be a "but" on the text lol. I do love it too, I came to this phone from a Pocophone and the only thing i miss is the custom ROMs development on the Oneplus 7T.
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Hi, I also came from Poco F1. Amazing phone. Took me a while to get use to OP7T even thought it is better in many ways. I bought it new for 300 pounds and then after a year on October 2019 I found a deal like hell and bought a new OP7T for 360 pounds. Amoled display was the biggest advantage I noticed for the first time. Later I could not even look on the Poco F1 display and before I was astonished by the quality of the LCD panel. I got so much used to the face unlock on F1 cause it was so freaking fast and precise even at complete dark. That and the fast fingerprint scanner is another think I missed for a while. But eventually I get used to the in-display one (but they still could add one more on the back cause it is the perfect place for it). Also that I was so used to the MIUI, the environment was kind of weird for me. But with little bit of tweaking and setting up Nova launcher, which I have been using already for like 8 years anyway, helped a lot. And I even found some tweaks I could not do in MIUI. But like you mentioned, there were so much variety of ROMs and hell I like rooting, flashing and stuff like this. There is also one function I found only in MIUI and which helped me a lot when I came lazy like hell from night shift home and that is that you could mirror your screen to smart TV, lets say play a sitcom or whatever, and minimize it on the device itself so I could be on FB, YT, even play a games and not disturb media streaming to my TV. I wish Oneplus add this feature in future.
I don't see separate sub-forums for ROMs and recoveries etc. Just wondering what happened to this phone? The root is available. So, why is ROM development not there?
devsk said:
I don't see separate sub-forums for ROMs and recoveries etc. Just wondering what happened to this phone? The root is available. So, why is ROM development not there?
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Root is not available on all versions. There is no unlocking the bootloaders on the US versions.
Oh... And there is this.
[13][ROM][sGSI][CWAI+][Exynos2200] Pixel Experience Plus
Pixel Experience Plus "s"GSI DISCLAIMER I am not to be held responsible for any damage that might come to your device while trying to install or using this rom. This is your own responsibility. What is this? Pixel Experience is an AOSP based...
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Latest Samsung phones are not really friendly towards custom roms and third-party modifications. S20 is advancing at a really low pace compared to S10 and S9 series, which recieved a lot of love from the community. Maybe, if you're truly interested in custom rom development, you should get a phone from another brand (OnePlus, Google, etc..)
Tbh considering how long Samsung is supporting their phones currently i do not miss custom ROM's that much..
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Tbh considering how long Samsung is supporting their phones currently i do not miss custom ROM's that much..
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I feel the same way. I would only bother with a custom rom if SOT was a few hours higher.
Custom ROMs will make changes to your device that cannot be undone. You might have issues later if you want to use company resources on your phone for your job. Also ROMS have really improved a lot the last years. Personally I don't miss custom ROMs anymore on my S22+. Even on my previous S8+ I was really satisifed with stock roms. The only thing I miss today is good ad-blocking. But not enough to 'partially break' my device.
If you can't live with Samsung's bloat, then you need a custom ROM