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My phone shipped from Amazon today and due Monday. Does anyone know if the US unlocked variant shipp with both sims (nano and eSiM) active? Need dual SIMs for work so hoping it does.
TGUY25 said:
My phone shipped from Amazon today and due Monday. Does anyone know if the US unlocked variant shipp with both sims (nano and eSiM) active? Need dual SIMs for work so hoping it does.
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I checked Motorola's site earlier today, in the specs section, down in the fine print notes, it states Dual-Sim capabilities will be introduced at a later date & may vary depending on carrier model.
At the minimum, sounds like you may have to wait for a software update to enable Dual-Sim capabilities.
Ordered mine from Motorola yesterday and hoping it comes with dual standby. However, I checked out a T-Mobile version yesterday and although it allowed to hot-swap swap from Nano to eSIM in the software it only had one IMEI number... Hoping the unlocked version maybe different but no software update can alter the missing IMEI. Fingers crossed but honestly not hopeful.
Mine is on the UPS truck for delivery this afternoon (unlocked version bought on Amazon) - earlier than expected so I will be able to report back after I have it. I'd read the info on the motorola website mentioned above and was hoping to get a definitive answer.
I got my unlocked Razr 5G (from Amazon) today. Box only shows 1 IMEI. Pretty sweet device - just working on setup but I can report that 1) both eSIM and the Nano SIM work BUT (and this is a really big BUT), only one can be active at a time. I started with my AT&T nano SIM in the device and it works great. I then switched to the eSIM and added my UK eSIM plan to the phone.
I was then able to go back & forth between the SIMs using the switch SIM menu option and it worked fine but only one can be Active at a time so when AT&T is active, no calls, etc on UK eSIM and vice-versa.
So, while it is technically a dual SIM phone, it does not behave as you would expect (or prefer) for a true dual active-dual sim phone. Given the box only shows 1 IMEI i'm doubtful the phone will ever be dual standby (which would require 2 IMEI's) so I'm not sure if I'll be able to use this as a daily driver or not.
Mine is the US version - nXT2071-3 - hopefully someone in the UK or elsewhere with a different model/firmware can confirm if another version is true dual SIM.
TGUY25 said:
I got my unlocked Razr 5G (from Amazon) today. Box only shows 1 IMEI. Pretty sweet device - just working on setup but I can report that 1) both eSIM and the Nano SIM work BUT (and this is a really big BUT), only one can be active at a time. I started with my AT&T nano SIM in the device and it works great. I then switched to the eSIM and added my UK eSIM plan to the phone.
I was then able to go back & forth between the SIMs using the switch SIM menu option and it worked fine but only one can be Active at a time so when AT&T is active, no calls, etc on UK eSIM and vice-versa.
So, while it is technically a dual SIM phone, it does not behave as you would expect (or prefer) for a true dual active-dual sim phone. Given the box only shows 1 IMEI i'm doubtful the phone will ever be dual standby (which would require 2 IMEI's) so I'm not sure if I'll be able to use this as a daily driver or not.
Mine is the US version - nXT2071-3 - hopefully someone in the UK or elsewhere with a different model/firmware can confirm if another version is true dual SIM.
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But... i have dual Sim smartphone, and it uses 2 nano-sims. I have them both activated and so the phone shows the two IMEI (from both carrier sims). My previous non chinese smartphone was an iPhone 11 and it had esim and a sim slot. So I used the first e-sim with my Canadian carrier and the sim card slot with my other canadian carrier. I could use both phone numbers on the same device but if one phone number rang on the phone I could not receive an inbound call on the second number.
Is that not how the Razr 5G works?
US variant (XT2071-3) that I got does not work like an iphone 11 (which i what I have now and,like you have one carrier using nano sim and another using eSIM) and both can send/receive calls and text - though like you said not at once- and it can do that because it has 2 unique IMEI and which allows it to register on 2 different networks. Moto XT2071-3 only have 1 IMEI - can only have 1 number on at a time and when one is on, the other is off - doesn't receive calls/texts when off.
EU variant XT2071-4 is supposed to come with 2 IMEI to work like your iphone 11 - both sims can be on and get calls/text. Very few have been shipped. i have one on order and will confirm when i get it. if that one works, i will keep it. The one i got from AMAZON is going to be returned since I can't use it.
I would guess that Dual SIM Dual Standby for 5G is coming with Android 11. It was the case with the OnePlus phones and perhaps that feature isn't available with Android 10. Are there any Dual SIM 5G phones with Android 10? This article helped explain the situation (along with the comments below) Android Authority Dual SIM 5G phones
kingstu said:
I would guess that Dual SIM Dual Standby for 5G is coming with Android 11.
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Hopefully the wait for 11 isn't too long
I got a UK version XT2071-4 and can report it is a true dual sim phone. Box shows dual SIM’s and I was able to load my US ATT eSIM and my Starhub nano sim on the phone and it works. You can’t use 5G in dual sim mode - probably something about the modem but it works great in 4G LTE with both sims. The global version is missing a few US specific bands though, running on ATT, not missed very much. So far so good. While the build quality isn’t as good (more plastic) I like the smaller form factor over the z-flip and the close to vanilla Android is nice. Happy camper now with full dual sim model - the us model I got from Amazon is going back. Now I just need a decent case...
We can finally order dual-SIM trays via eBay as of today. What are the odds of being able to enable that second slot?
It might need some time. I read from other post that oneplus 8 pro took a year before a low that feature. now oneplus 9 pro only have one sim tray so it might talk even a longer time for them to release that feature. I am more depending on the people who know how to customize the rom and add feature . So just stay tune at different forums.
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
carbondog said:
We can finally order dual-SIM trays via eBay as of today. What are the odds of being able to enable that second slot?
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That's great news. I returned by OP9P NA variant, but don't have a global variant yet. Shouldn't it just work with the NA variant if we flash a global ROM on the same device? It looks like it has pins on both sides.
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That's great news. I returned by OP9P NA variant, but don't have a global variant yet. Shouldn't it just work with the NA variant if we flash a global ROM on the same device? It looks like it has pins on both sides.
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Not that simple I think. I already flash to EU tom but it does not second sim in the settings. I think it might need wire flash of all components including baseband
amandeepparmar said:
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
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it doesn't for USA model.
fifasax said:
Not that simple I think. I already flash to EU tom but it does not second sim in the settings. I think it might need wire flash of all components including baseband
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Oh no. Does OnePlus publish those components, or are we out of luck until someone figures out a way to get them? The EU variant I have on order doesn't support one AT&T LTE band, so would much rather use an NA variant with dual SIM enabled.
If the EU variant shows up at my door before someone figures out how to make dual SIM work on the NA variant, then I will just use it even with the missing LTE band.
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Oh no. Does OnePlus publish those components, or are we out of luck until someone figures out a way to get them? The EU variant I have on order doesn't support one AT&T LTE band, so would much rather use an NA variant with dual SIM enabled.
If the EU variant shows up at my door before someone figures out how to make dual SIM work on the NA variant, then I will just use it even with the missing LTE band.
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I saw one guy on Reddit complaining of the same situation we're in- ordered the phone when it said dual-SIM and trying to return it afterward.
He claims OP customer service said dual-SIM would be enabled via update in the future. While I hope that's true, it's the first and only time I saw that said anywhere. Could've just been said to try and avoid return. Even if it does happen, it'd probably be a ways off.
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I saw one guy on Reddit complaining of the same situation we're in- ordered the phone when it said dual-SIM and trying to return it afterward.
He claims OP customer service said dual-SIM would be enabled via update in the future. While I hope that's true, it's the first and only time I saw that said anywhere. Could've just been said to try and avoid return. Even if it does happen, it'd probably be a ways off.
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I chatted with OnePlus customer service two different times. Both agents tried to talk me out of wanting Dual SIM, but were very clear that it is single slot only for the US. One even cited spouted some bull**** about doing that to optimize 5G performance on US networks.
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Oh no. Does OnePlus publish those components, or are we out of luck until someone figures out a way to get them? The EU variant I have on order doesn't support one AT&T LTE band, so would much rather use an NA variant with dual SIM enabled.
If the EU variant shows up at my door before someone figures out how to make dual SIM work on the NA variant, then I will just use it even with the missing LTE band.
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I guess we have to wait to see if anyone can figure out how. At least, just upgrade to a newer version of EU tom does not work. Not sure if you for flash everything and reset from adb is the same
i have a bnib stellar black chinese version dual sim 8/256 oneplus 9 pro for sale. I am in SF bay area.
Will it work if i have a Dual Sim Oneplus 9 from Malaysia, install NA rom to open more BANDS ? The malaysia OnePlus 9 has the same 5G bands as in UK, but lack of some US 5G bands like n71. All CN variant do not have B13 band, therefore, not supporting Verizon LTE nicely. All ebay sellers who claimed dual sim with 12GB RAM and 256GB storage are mostly CN variant. I'm better off with EU/UK or MY. Hong Kong spec is the same as USA with dual sim. If anyone wants a dual sim and want mostly all US bands supported, Hong Kong Oneplus seems to be the right fit. Only if we can get it from HK
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amandeepparmar said:
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
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Funny, I don't have the option.
amandeepparmar said:
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
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wait what?! both SIM fits in the same compartment ?
wouldn't that be too tight?
mine only has a slot for 1 SIM
The dual sim versions have 1 sim on each side of the tray.
Mine came with dual sim out of the box and is working perfectly.
I really like how I don't have carry around 2 phones anymore.
flaxjef said:
Mine came with dual sim out of the box and is working perfectly.
I really like how I don't have carry around 2 phones anymore.
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Do you have the US version?
I was very disappointed that the US version didn't come with a dual sim. I ordered mine at launch, when their website said that it had it.. Anyway, I finally figured out an acceptable replacement option for mine. I did have 1 sim for my personal number and a second sim for my work number (worked great on my OP 6T for a couple of years now). After playing around with things, I finally ended up porting my work number over to Google Voice (1 x $20 fee) and installed the Google Voice app on my phone. Now I essentially have 2 #'s on one phone, just like having a second SIM, but no cost to my carrier. I can receive calls and txt's for the # I ported to GV. Wasn't quite the solution I was hoping for, but now I no longer pay for that line.
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Do you have the US version?
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I don't think is a US variant. As far as US Variant is concern, is single SIM. Anyone that is using Dual sim could be CN or EU/UK Variant. If it is indeed a US variant, then I'm interested to know where the source to get it then . Those variants have fewer 5G sub-bands compared to the US except HK. I just hope that Oneplus has the hardware embedded and is just a matter of software activation. Samsung Note20 new firmware patch also opens up their eSIM support.
Ops400 said:
I was very disappointed that the US version didn't come with a dual sim. I ordered mine at launch, when their website said that it had it.. Anyway, I finally figured out an acceptable replacement option for mine. I did have 1 sim for my personal number and a second sim for my work number (worked great on my OP 6T for a couple of years now). After playing around with things, I finally ended up porting my work number over to Google Voice (1 x $20 fee) and installed the Google Voice app on my phone. Now I essentially have 2 #'s on one phone, just like having a second SIM, but no cost to my carrier. I can receive calls and txt's for the # I ported to GV. Wasn't quite the solution I was hoping for, but now I no longer pay for that line.
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You do know they make an app called second line right? So you don't need to pay for 2 plans
Hi, I just switched from a Mi Max 3 to a Mate 20X since ATT is removing 3G, and haven't had any luck finding or setting up VoLTE on my Mate 20X. I'm fully updated to EMUI 11 and the option simply doesn't exist to turn on VoLTE. I've tried setting up a new APN as well, with no luck.
How should I go about getting it working? As ATT locks down any lines that don't have VoLTE.
Aorus Mini-ITX RiG said:
It's been discussed this thing 20x.. You don't setup an volte on your phone firstly your mobile OP must support it then it will be auto enabled..
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I did a lot of reading on these forums about that. I had called into ATT support last night and they said enabling VoLTE was something that they were unable to do for my IMEI on my line. To the point that ATT will actually lock my line out from even functioning once I try to get that device setup. Would I have to give them an IMEI for another device with VoLTE, have them unlock my line, and then put the sim card back in the Mate 20X?
Update on this, I tried a friends T-Mobile sim card in my phone and it worked with no issue. VoLTE started up completely fine. ATT is just being dumb with me when they say they can't activate VoLTE on the line.
So, would I need to bring in a completely different device with VoLTE and give them that IMEI. Then plop the sim card back in my Mate 20X?
Aorus Mini-ITX RiG said:
they are against huawei and they in purpose not enabling it ... so they lying to you...
Get tmobile or verizon instead.. such messing around shouldn't happen an dsome imei locking n sht... They talking b-sht.. you already told them imei so they have you on black list..
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No problems with that, switch to T-Mobile it is then. Heck even Google Fi or something like that.
I think they're telling me the device they see off of the IMEI isn't allowed, not blocking the IMEI or anything.
Aorus Mini-ITX RiG said:
Because they are paranoied thinking huawei will listen them or something...
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Thanks ATT.
Most of my family is on ATT, but I have someone in it on T-Mobile. Will be heading there later.
I already switched to T-mobile after 9 years with ATT
They simply locked out my phone
T-mobile works fine no issues
mcjoe1015 said:
I already switched to T-mobile after 9 years with ATT
They simply locked out my phone
T-mobile works fine no issues
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what made you stick with att all this time on the real t?
I saw an ad for a Google Pixel 6 PRO that doesn't accept a physical SIM chip, allowing only eSIM usage. The problem is that the Pixel eSim is not unlocked in my country, so there is no possibility to use it. I wanted to know if with root I could circumvent this.
KiYOxz said:
I saw an ad for a Google Pixel 6 PRO that doesn't accept a physical SIM chip, allowing only eSIM usage. The problem is that the Pixel eSim is not unlocked in my country, so there is no possibility to use it. I wanted to know if with root I could circumvent this.
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My pixel 6 Pro has a physical nano sim
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My pixel 6 Pro has a physical nano sim
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Yes, but apparently there was a carrier block for physical Sim entry. The only one available is the eSIM but it is blocked in my country. I wanted to know if I can unlock one of the two entries with root.
KiYOxz said:
Yes, but apparently there was a carrier block for physical Sim entry. The only one available is the eSIM but it is blocked in my country. I wanted to know if I can unlock one of the two entries with root.
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Oh I see, I've never seen that. I would check the LSPosed repo and magisk repo and see. Sorry can't answer it.
When you say esim is locked in your country you mean the carriers offer esim for other models but pixel 6p is not compatible? If that's the case I'm 99.9% sure that it will work no root needed. If they insist to tell them your model just say you have an iPhone. Had the same issue some years ago. Bought a used 4xl from UK with blacklisted physical sim due to debts, no way to remove it from blacklist unless paid out, but esim IMEI was not blacklisted and in my country pixels not supported as well and every carrier representative was saying it will not work. Of course it worked and since then I have used several esims on p4xl p5 p6 and now on p6 pro and pixels still not supported for esim (+ 5g volte etc) in my country
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When you say esim is locked in your country you mean the carriers offer esim for other models but pixel 6p is not compatible? If that's the case I'm 99.9% sure that it will work no root needed. If they insist to tell them your model just say you have an iPhone. Had the same issue some years ago. Bought a used 4xl from UK with blacklisted physical sim due to debts, no way to remove it from blacklist unless paid out, but esim IMEI was not blacklisted and in my country pixels not supported as well and every carrier representative was saying it will not work. Of course it worked and since then I have used several esims on p4xl p5 p6 and now on p6 pro and pixels still not supported for esim (+ 5g volte etc) in my country
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It's like a block from Google, for example the Pixel does not accept a 5G signal in my country, but with root you can bypass this. The same happens with eSim, but I don't know if root solves it.
KiYOxz said:
It's like a block from Google, for example the Pixel does not accept a 5G signal in my country, but with root you can bypass this. The same happens with eSim, but I don't know if root solves it.
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I see I don't believe you will find something cause it's a little bit different than making it register to a 5g network. Usually when it comes to sim locks the IMEI is getting blocked and unfortunately Google phones getting blocked (sim lock blacklist etc) via Google s servers and the unlock comes as an OTA. I don't even believe even if you manage to change the IMEI (illegal) that you'll make it work. There are some modules and apps that require root that say they can change IMEI but in most cases they have to do with older phones and especially mediatek ones. Maybe a professional with special tool boxes (like octopus) can do something
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I see I don't believe you will find something cause it's a little bit different than making it register to a 5g network. Usually when it comes to sim locks the IMEI is getting blocked and unfortunately Google phones getting blocked (sim lock blacklist etc) via Google s servers and the unlock comes as an OTA. I don't even believe even if you manage to change the IMEI (illegal) that you'll make it work. There are some modules and apps that require root that say they can change IMEI but in most cases they have to do with older phones and especially mediatek ones. Maybe a professional with special tool boxes (like octopus) can do something
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Thanks
KiYOxz said:
I saw an ad for a Google Pixel 6 PRO that doesn't accept a physical SIM chip, allowing only eSIM usage. The problem is that the Pixel eSim is not unlocked in my country, so there is no possibility to use it. I wanted to know if with root I could circumvent this.
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Try a ubigi Esim... It's free and you can test your hypothesis... Here in my country almost all carriers that provides a esim doesn't work with pixel 6 pro. if ubigi esim works it's not a esim blocking problem.
So that means it comes with esim?
EDIT: correction: 11 global variant has eSim. My apologies.
Afaik OP hasn't yet ventured into eSim. iPhone so far ahead of everyone else...
horsecharles said:
Afaik OP hasn't yet ventured into eSim. iPhone so far ahead of everyone else...
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Nope...bunch of android phone support esim including Oneplus 11(global version), Pixel, Galaxy etc.
Esim is ok..but if you get a new phone.. that dont offer esim , it kinda sucks. Now you have to go to cell company and transfer esim to a sim card . I had esim on pixel 6 pro
That's not what I posted.
Other brands have but not to the extent of iPhone - where you can juggle many eSim profiles simultaneously, it's why I still use it in addition to Android.
As far as OnePlus 11 I haven't found a single confirmation. Even OnePlus forums state no.
Canuck Knarf said:
Esim is ok..but if you get a new phone.. that dont offer esim , it kinda sucks. Now you have to go to cell company and transfer esim to a sim card . I had esim on pixel 6 pro
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I like the way iPhone handles it. Simultaneously I had capped base plan and added free monthly trials from T-Mobile and Verizon. In settings you can designate which carrier is primary for call&text, which one for Data.
You can store over dozen e-Sim profiles, enable or disable at will...
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I like the way iPhone handles it. Simultaneously I had capped base plan and added free monthly trials from T-Mobile and Verizon. In settings you can designate which carrier is primary for call&text, which one for Data.
You can store over dozen e-Sim profiles, enable or disable at will...
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eSIM in OP11 is.
even the help in the smartphone mentions it and informs you that if you activate the eSIM, the second SIM slot is no longer active.
Simply eSIM replaces SIM2.
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I added screenshots showing that eSIM in OP11 is and is doing well
BTW - I don't have my traditional SIM card inserted yet, because after the initial "play" with OP11, I will probably reset it to factory settings and root it.
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Esim is ok..but if you get a new phone.. that dont offer esim , it kinda sucks. Now you have to go to cell company and transfer esim to a sim card . I had esim on pixel 6 pro
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Really?!
With a physical SIM card I can swap it between any phones however and when I like. With a eSIM card you are a slave to your cellular provider. And good luck restoring your eSIM number if you left your country.
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eSIM in OP11 is.
even the help in the smartphone mentions it and informs you that if you activate the eSIM, the second SIM slot is no longer active.
Simply eSIM replaces SIM2.
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I added screenshots showing that eSIM in OP11 is and is doing well
BTW - I don't have my traditional SIM card inserted yet, because after the initial "play" with OP11, I will probably reset it to factory settings and root it.
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So OnePlus Store doesn't present it based on Location.
I stand corrected, and very grateful for your detailed reply!
I hoping that their will be alot of development for OnePlus 11 and I want to see for myself how esim works and how easy it is switch companys
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Really?!
With a physical SIM card I can swap it between any phones however and when I like. With a eSIM card you are a slave to your cellular provider. And good luck restoring your eSIM number if you left your country.
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That's what I was saying..!!!!
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I hoping that their will be alot of development for OnePlus 11 and I want to see for myself how esim works and how easy it is switch companys
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There won't be. OppoPlus has again locked the MSM Tool behind a technician login so the risk of having a brick is unacceptably high. It will be just like all phones since the 9 Pro - little, if any development. Developers are moving away from OnePlus en masse.
I'm going to be moving to the OP11 from OP7T - even though it has eSIM/SIM - does it allow you specify a ringtone for each of the SIMs? This is the reason I moved back to my OP7T from the Pixel 7 Pro, now I have (1) expensive paper-weight sitting on my desk and hoping the OnePlus 11 will have this option like my OnePlus 7T.
This is from the OnePlus 11 Specs Page
eSIM - Yes
Dual SIM - Yes (Dual nano-SIM slot)
I'm about to set up a new OP11 but I don't want to use eSIM. I'd rather have two physical SIMs. When you start setup I don't see an option to disable eSIM. I don't want to insert my SIM to learn, that I won't be able to go back or cancel this operation. What do I do?