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RC-RT Mission Statement
As Recognized Contributors/Themers, we are challenged with the purpose of aiding development, offering assistance and above all, embodying the Spirit of XDA.
Contributing to XDA-Developers is more than simply delivering ROMs, mods and themes and by posting and behaving in a modest and exemplary way, we aim to influence and encourage other users to conduct themselves with friendliness and co-operation.
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So over on the Recognized Contributors forum, it has become clear that most members of XDA don't know that you can apply for the title of Recognized Contributor (RC). I have also included the same for Recognized themer, as I am assuming that it's not well known that you can apply.
What is a Recognized Contributor?
Recognized Contributor is a role intended for members who produce some of the best original and helpful guides for users, as well as helping other users who have problems, in a friendly manner. Recognized Contributors will get a custom user title and the faster ad-free XDA template, as well as access to developer tools currently being created. Any Moderator and or Status-ed Holder on XDA can forward a Nomination to the Committee, should they feel the Individual is deserving of this Status.What is a Recognized Themer?
Recognized Themers are those users who work (often tirelessly) on designing new theme graphics and user interface overhauls for ROMs. Users who aspire to be Recognized Themers should be creating original graphics work for their themes being released, demonstrate a commitment to crediting other users’ work when applicable, and seek the relevant permission in advance from the original creator. Recognized Themers will receive a custom user title and the faster ad-free XDA template, as well as access to developer tools currently being created. Any Moderator and or Status-ed Holder on XDA can forward a Nomination to the Committee, should they feel the Individual is deserving of this Status.Pre-requisites
1. Be a member for at least 1 year (following the XDA rules) with consistent and acceptable activity, upon review with the discretion of the Committee of acceptable months. Usually, 6-8 activity is acceptable.
2. Posted good original threads:
a. Threads that are guides/index/collective information.
b. OP of ROM threads and have good support within the ROM thread or via a separate thread in the Q&A section, and some activity in the Q&A section or other threads besides their own.
c. Place holder threads (discussions of home screens/ wallpapers / Off-Topic, etc) are NOT accepted.
Exception: A proper place holder for a new phone with details and other important information and further maintaining the Q&A on the device.
3. In case of no independent threads, the following may be accepted:
a. An FAQ (or support post) within a ROM thread.
b. Generally moving around from thread to thread to help members – the "Post Count Vs Thanks" could be used as a means to measure this.
4. Good quality general know-how around XDA forums (not necessarily developer standard)
5. Thanks count broadly expected given the forums they are in.
6. Posted regularly enough (complementing point 1) to provide continuous support or less frequently but good high-value support
7. Contribute to a good overall general atmosphere.
8. You have read, understood, and already adhere to the Updated 11/19/2018 Recognized Contributor Code of Conduct: https://www.xda-developers.com/recognized-contributor-code-of-conduct/
How can I apply?
NOTE: Please do not bother to apply if you have created accounts purely to boost your "thanks" count, if you got your buddies to thank all your posts or any other method of boosting thanks! We will know! If you have done this and still wish to apply please note this in your application and your honesty will be taken into account. An RC sets the example for following the rules..one of which is do not make more than one account!
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You can apply by sending your application via PM to:
A member of the RC-RT Committee:
Az BikerMr. Clownkarandprorangekid TNSMANI Clark Joseph Kent LeadRC-RT Liaison PG101
Any other Senior Moderator
Any FSM.
Any existing RC, who will pass on your application forward.
Choose whichever route you are more comfortable with, the end result is the same. All list of moderators can be found here.
The best way in which to apply through your PM
When you are writing your application, you will need to include:
A polite hello
Your username with a link to your username will want to check your history.
Why do you think you would make a good RC/RT, including a little about your time on XDA.
Links to your work including Guides, Ref, Roms, Projects, Apps(Themes for RT), etc
Do not forget to include 7/10 links of threads/posts which would be helpful in assessing your application.
A thank you for their time and goodbye (Manners are free)
Please note only apply once to one committee members, do not send 3 applications to 3 different committee members. Also be patient, the committee members are very busy people and have other work on XDA and in personal life. I would recommend a waiting time of upto a week; and if you receive no response within a week, then a reminder PM.
Please do not bombard the committee with PM's.
If you are having a problem with your application or you would like to appeal a decision made on your application, then you can contact the RC-RT Committee through PM.
If you do get accepted as an RC/RT then please come and visit the RC's forum and help contribute to our work and cause to make XDA a better place
If you have any questions then please ask, I or the other RC's/RT's will help in anyway we can.
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The general criteria is that a member should have been helpful, courteous and active commensurate to the forum one is mostly in. You will need to be an active member of XDA for 12 months or more.
While applying, please include 7-10 links/threads/posts that you think will help us decide on your application, effectively.
Cheers and good luck
PG101
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WHAT THIS THREAD IS NOT: A PLACE FOR PRE-ASSESSMENTS.
PG101 said:
I am not liking all this speculation about "do I qualify..?" "what do I need.." and more so that the current RCs are feeding these with actual answers.
I urge all of you to refrain from asking this particular question, its almost becoming like asking for an ETA on a rom thread.. you know how that goes?
If you feel you are ready, apply.. that's all there is to it and if you donot get accepted, I am sure you will be given reasons. You may discuss here how you can improve your contributions to be accepted again.
Cheers!
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Guys/Gals, I don't see this as a thread to evaluate others or to give hints and tips for others to achieve RC status. If a person is suitable , let the mods review them. They can read the OP and know the criteria required. I'm concerned that this thread has become a training ground and the RC pool is becoming diluted.
If a user cannot read or know what the criteria is, then, imho, they don't have the criteria required
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s/S-Mods/Senior Moderators/
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If you have questions, please ask here or ask one of the Recognized Contributors or Recognized Themers in your forum if you feel more comfortable with them.
Do we have to have guides and such to be eligible?
I Am Marino said:
Do we have to have guides and such to be eligible?
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Not always, some RC's have been given the title for their work on roms, kernels e.t.c, and some for being very nice to other members, helping out on their device specific forum.
Thanks for this!!! I'm going to apply now
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Hmm maybe I should apply, although I'm not sure if I am considered good enough xD
Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
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Hmm maybe I should apply, although I'm not sure if I am considered good enough xD
Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
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Unfortunately search is still down so I can't look to see if you have started any guide threads or your other activity, but if you feel like you contribute more than the average user, then go ahead and apply and the mods will check and let you know if they feel like you qualify, or they will suggest other things to do to get there.
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Unfortunately search is still down so I can't look to see if you have started any guide threads or your other activity, but if you feel like you contribute more than the average user, then go ahead and apply and the mods will check and let you know if they feel like you qualify, or they will suggest other things to do to get there.
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Well I sent a message to Chainfire and no I haven't done guides but I have helped a fair bit more than most members I see.
I haven't done any guides because any of the things I could do one about already have stickies/threads
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Well I sent a message to Chainfire and no I haven't done guides but I have helped a fair bit more than most members I see.
I haven't done any guides because any of the things I could do one about already have stickies/threads
Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
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Yeah, I know what you mean, my phone is the HTC Sensation and it is reaching a point of maturity where most ideas for guides and threads and such have been done. Several friends have asked for ideas and it is really hard to find new niches to fill in that forum.
Sometimes it is possible to find abandoned threads and then do a new thread to replace it, but that takes time to get the links to that thread replaced with your own so people stop going to that old thread.
Another possibility is to find a guide or thread where the original poster has moved on to a new phone, and then contact the forum admin to request that the thread ownership be transferred. If the OP is willing then that is an easy process. You don't get to keep their thanks from that thread however. :-/
Another possibility is to do the guide in a different format. If there is a text guide on how to install a firmware+ROM, then do a video guide, or do a better text guide with screenshots.
Well its worse for the Nexus S as pretty much anything is easy to do, ie unlocking bootloader and install a custom recovery, from there its 90% flashing things
Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
Thanks for this. I think I am going to apply not sure if I have done enough by helping out as much as I have.
tazfanatic said:
Thanks for this. I think I am going to apply not sure if I have done enough by helping out as much as I have.
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Good Luck!
Howdy!
May I ask if some members can be suggested to be attributed a RC status? Obviously, I can not summarize for them, only point the deciders to them/their posts.
TIA! Have a nice one all!
Lucky Thirteen said:
Howdy!
May I ask if some members can be suggested to be attributed a RC status? Obviously, I can not summarize for them, only point the deciders to them/their posts.
TIA! Have a nice one all!
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Sure, you can suggest, but the best way is to give them the link to this thread, or this article, and tell them to write to one of the senior mods and list their qualifications and why they believe they should be recognized.
Great thread! Applied.
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Great thread! Applied.
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Congrats you got it, come and visit these to HERE and HERE, who did you apply to. Also i would imagine if you made another theme, you could applyto become a Recognized themer also.
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Congrats you got it, come and visit these to HERE and HERE, who did you apply to. Also i would imagine if you made another theme, you could applyto become a Recognized themer also.
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Done and done!
It was my good ol'buddy pulser_g2 that added me, he was surprised why I haven't been added already lol
If I do come up with another theme then I shall definitely apply for Recognized themer. I have worked on a few themes already with others.
I hope I had read this one before...(I.e. thank you, op)
Though, I asked my device's fsm, and he assured me that he'll forward my application to senior mods...
Hope I can make it
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Ha I just found this thread, good idea to explain how to apply for RC status. I imagine I am the reason s.d.oconnor got the idea for this thread cause it is clear by my post in the RC Chat forum that I had no idea you could apply for RC status. I even mention it in the PM I sent to apply for RC.
If s.d.oconnor would like I still have a copy of that PM if he would like to post it as a example PM for others to view. I also think we might want to get authorization from the higher ups too before posting it just to make sure that is ok.
One last thing, it says in tthe OP to place a link to your profile in you PM. This is not needed as your user name above your avatar in the PM, just as in forum posts, is a link to your profile page. So it is already a link to your profile in the PM.
First of all I'd like to say thanks for adding the option to list our devices on our profile without having to use our signatures.
Now, onto the request. While adding my devices, I tested it to see if I could add a device which doesn't have a forum on XDA. (Even though I don't have the device, I tried to add the Micromax Canvas HD and it wouldn't add it purely because there's no for it here for it.) So, would it be possible to add devices which also don't have a forum on here?
I guess @svetius would be the best person to ask
+1 & Good catch. :good:
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First of all I'd like to say thanks for adding the option to list our devices on our profile without having to use our signatures.
Now, onto the request. While adding my devices, I tested it to see if I could add a device which doesn't have a forum on XDA. (Even though I don't have the device, I tried to add the Micromax Canvas HD and it wouldn't add it purely because there's no for it here for it.) So, would it be possible to add devices which also don't have a forum on here?
I guess @svetius would be the best person to ask
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We're still deciding if want to do this. If we allow a wildcard, people can put whatever they want in there, even profanity, etc. So...file under "maybe". :victory:
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We're still deciding if want to do this. If we allow a wildcard, people can put whatever they want in there, even profanity, etc. So...file under "maybe". :victory:
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I don't believe that would really be a big problem though because even though there's an obvious chance it could happen, the same could be said for Location but, from what I've seen, the most people use it for is Likes and Dislikes.
A way around it could be a database of all devices (both on and off XDA) and only allow what's on that list. Basically an extension of the current system. I realise it would be a lot if work to keep such a list updated though as lots of devices are churned out by lesser known manufacturers.
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We're still deciding if want to do this. If we allow a wildcard, people can put whatever they want in there, even profanity, etc. So...file under "maybe". :victory:
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I hate to be a bother @svetius...
I had seen a recent question from another member regarding this topic and saw this thread after performing a quick search.
Though this thread is a bit older, I was just curious as to any decisions made regarding this (or maybe @MikeChannon might have some information regarding this as well).
Thank you very much!
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I hate to be a bother @svetius...
I had seen a recent question from another member regarding this topic and saw this thread after performing a quick search.
Though this thread is a bit older, I was just curious as to any decisions made regarding this (or maybe @MikeChannon might have some information regarding this as well).
Thank you very much!
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Haha, yes, I think we can say 5/6 years later it was decided not to add the ability to add a device that's not got a set of forums officially listed here. Aside from it being a way to state what devices you have it was also meant as a way to link other users to our other internal forums. The ability for folk (and there are always some) to abuse a system that allows wildcards was and is a concern too.
Mike
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Haha, yes, I think we can say 5/6 years later it was decided not to add the ability to add a device that's not got a set of forums officially listed here. Aside from it being a way to state what devices you have it was also meant as a way to link other users to our other internal forums. The ability for folk (and there are always some) to abuse a system that allows wildcards was and is a concern too.
Mike
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Yes, this.
If we don't have a forum for your device, feel free to yell at us, especially @MikeChannon who loves to be yelled at :crying: :crying: just ask his wife :laugh:
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Yes, this. If we don't have a forum for your device, feel free to yell at us, especially @MikeChannon who loves to be yelled at :crying: :crying: just ask his wife :laugh:
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I hear it's worse to be yelled at by a Scottish Woman than an American one...
Is this true @MikeChannon?
LMAO!
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I hear it's worse to be yelled at by a Scottish Woman than an American one...
Is this true @MikeChannon?
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Not sure but we eat a lot of hot noodles here err... hear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gCsfDOi5vc
Mike
Necro!!! Lol, I work with a lot of sbcs and as such can't add devices... Aka pine phone, Khadas vim3l, Asus tinkerboard, odroid c2, n2, xu4, rockpro64, pinea64.
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Necro!!! Lol, I work with a lot of sbcs and as such can't add devices... Aka pine phone, Khadas vim3l, Asus tinkerboard, odroid c2, n2, xu4, rockpro64, pinea64.
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Your only option is request that a forum section be created for each of those devices.
New device request thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
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Your only option is request that a forum section be created for each of those devices.
New device request thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
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Yeah, I guess I'll have to, I've ported a custom made Android OS to them
Hi all members of XDA,
whilst we as RC's do our very best to keep XDA as organized as possible by giving you all kind of solutions, like the Q&A/T Template project, the Index project and the Ask Away help project etc etc, these were all RC initiated projects. Although all of these projects were started with the best intentions, I realize now that we never asked what you as users wanted to keep XDA organized. By starting this thread, I want to ask you all, members of XDA, to ventilate your opinions what's missing on XDA and what you really want to accomplish your needs. I could start a poll for that, but I do not feel the need for that at this very moment. I always can start a poll after most wanted needs posted, but for now I only want to know what's living in our community and what is needed in your opinions that is missing at this very moment. Really hope that you will react on this post as much as possible, so I can see what you really need/miss . All reactions will be answered by me (or, hopefully, fellow RC's) and, based on your reactions, I will start a new thread regarding your wishes, based on the most mentioned issue. If there are more important issues, there will be started of course more threads to cope with these "issues".
Everbody, from junior member, member, senior member and also RC's/RD's, are invited to react.
kindest regards and hoping for a lot of reactions, kuzibri
Hi Kuzibri, nice initiative.
This is only minor but every time I log in I have to scroll right down to the bottom to change the theme to XDA 2013.
Does anyone else find this annoying? I'd rather the option be up top somewhere.
Secondly I think the q&a templates a good idea but no one makes them anymore. The ones that we do have get used and divert thousands of questions from dev threads. The only reason the project died is because the admins implemented an auto generated q&a bot thread to all threads in development sections. Meaning that when someone with less than 10 posts replied to a dev thread, his post got moved to a newly created q&a thread with no OP. That was a bad idea IMO, it led to a lot of useless threads being auto generated. Only humans should create threads.
But since devdb have a q&a thread link, maybe we should utilise it again and make it useful for everyone by actually opening and maintaining these q&a threads with faq's and stuff.
Art Vanderlay said:
Hi Kuzibri, nice initiative.
This is only minor but every time I log in I have to scroll right down to the bottom to change the theme to XDA 2013.
Does anyone else find this annoying? I'd rather the option be up top somewhere.
Secondly I think the q&a templates a good idea but no one makes them anymore. The ones that we do have get used and divert thousands of questions from dev threads. The only reason the project died is because the admins implemented an auto generated q&a bot thread to all threads in development sections. Meaning that when someone with less than 10 posts replied to a dev thread, his post got moved to a newly created q&a thread with no OP. That was a bad idea IMO, it led to a lot of useless threads being auto generated. Only humans should create threads.
But since devdb have a q&a thread link, maybe we should utilise it again and make it useful for everyone by actually opening and maintaining these q&a threads with faq's and stuff.
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Hi Art,
Which XDA theme are you using now? I use XDA 2013 beta - 1024.
Regarding the q&a bot threads, I already had many discussions with higher ranked people, like @svetius, regarding the fact that these bot's had no OP, but never got a satisfied answer, also not what you are suggesting now, so IMHO this is a dead end street, unfortunately. I fully agree with you that only humans can start a thread, but I'm afraid that we cannot change that anymore on the bot threads. Although well intended in the beginning, they became indeed a real disaster, which led to the unfortunate end/death of real the Q&A/T Template project, of which I still think that it's a very important addition to XDA. :crying:
kindest regards, kuzibri
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Hi Art,
Which XDA theme are you using now? I use XDA 2013 beta - 1024.
Regarding the q&a bot threads, I already had many discussions with higher ranked people, like @svetius, regarding the fact that these bot's had no OP, but never got a satisfied answer, also not what you are suggesting now, so IMHO this is a dead end street, unfortunately. I fully agree with you that only humans can start a thread, but I'm afraid that we cannot change that anymore on the bot threads. Although well intended in the beginning, they became indeed a real disaster, which led to the unfortunate end/death of real the Q&A/T Template project, of which I still think that it's a very important addition to XDA. :crying:
kindest regards, kuzibri
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I'm using XDA 2013 beta.
About the q&a bot threads, what we can do is take ownership of the existing ones and add an OP and other important details to make them worthwhile.
@xanthrax took over one of the bot threads and did a really good job with it http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/qa-bliss-stalk-team-bliss-bacon-10-28-t2923210
If a human made q&a thread exists for a ROM then maybe the admins can bring back the feature that moves the under 10 posters there whenever they reply to dev thread.
Or at least give devs that option if they want it.
Art Vanderlay said:
I'm using XDA 2013 beta.
About the q&a bot threads, what we can do is take ownership of the existing ones and add an OP and other important details to make them worthwhile.
@xanthrax took over one of the bot threads and did a really good job with it http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/qa-bliss-stalk-team-bliss-bacon-10-28-t2923210
If a human made q&a thread exists for a ROM then maybe the admins can bring back the feature that moves the under 10 posters there whenever they reply to dev thread.
Or at least give devs that option so they want it.
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Will have a thorough look into that, cause I still think that the Q&A/T template thread is a very good way to organize XDA.
kindest regards, kuzbri
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Hi my friend,
send a PM to @svetius, with BCC to you, about the Bot Threads and giving them a "face".
kindest regards, kuzibri
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Hi my friend,
send a PM to @svetius, with BCC to you, about the Bot Threads and giving them a "face".
kindest regards, kuzibri
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no new bot threads have been created for months
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no new bot threads have been created for months
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I know my friend and most of them are useless and senseless. That's why I think we should restart the Q&A/T project. I know we have to approach dev's to join this project, but when we are able to convince, certainly the dev's linked to devdb, that this is a dead end street, we stand a good chance. Only restriction IMO is the willingness of other RC's help to restart this project again. Will you join Art and me? IMO this is the only way to prove that it was not a good idea by XDA to start these bot threads with no personal OP. I'm still willing to create a lot of Q&A/T threads as possible when we can dev's prove that this is the way to keep their original dev thread as clean as possible and XDA as organized as possible.
kindest regards, kuzibri
Q&A/T Template project
Hi,
already send a PM to a non-devdb related dev to join our Q&A/T project. Let's see what happens:fingers-crossed:.
kindest regards, kuzibri
Art Vanderlay said:
I'm using XDA 2013 beta.
About the q&a bot threads, what we can do is take ownership of the existing ones and add an OP and other important details to make them worthwhile.
@xanthrax took over one of the bot threads and did a really good job with it http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/qa-bliss-stalk-team-bliss-bacon-10-28-t2923210
If a human made q&a thread exists for a ROM then maybe the admins can bring back the feature that moves the under 10 posters there whenever they reply to dev thread.
Or at least give devs that option if they want it.
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I'm fairly sure the limitation of no posting in dev threads for members with under 10 posts has been lifted. That's why no new Bot threads, and I don't think devDB threads can restrict their posting anymore either. Again, that's why no new Bot threads.
I think.
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I'm fairly sure the limitation of no posting in dev threads for members with under 10 posts has been lifted. That's why no new Bot threads, and I don't think devDB threads can restrict their posting anymore either. Again, that's why no new Bot threads.
I think.
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about a month ago or so, I saw posts from under 10 members, saying other wise
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sd_shadow said:
about a month ago or so, I saw posts from under 10 members, saying other wise
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Hmm... I could be mistaken.
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Hmm... I could be mistaken.
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No, you are right.
Svetius explained it to me via PM.
Trafalgar Square said:
No, you are right.
Svetius explained it to me via PM.
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Has the 10 post rule been scrapped?
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Has the 10 post rule been scrapped?
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I am not sure about this but DevDB Q&A bots are gone.
Art Vanderlay said:
Has the 10 post rule been scrapped?
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Yes.
I've been a member of XDA since January of 2008, before 99% of the moderators had even heard of it, and before Android was released. Since then, the community has literally tumbled down to such a disappointing low. There's absolutely no incentive for developers to stick around anymore, and some of the members show such blatant disrespect for those who try to help them. Absolutely no one tries to learn how to do something as simple as learning how to use ADB. Another gripe I have with XDA is titles such as Recognized Contributor. Requiring a minimum post amount is quite a poor metric for contributions to the community. We should be judged based on content rather than quantity of low-quality/redundant posts.
For example, I applied for Recognized Contributor just because, with no real intention of actually getting it, after releasing a bootloader unlock for three Samsung devices along with another well-recognized and skilled developer, in addition to supporting the users who chose to utilize it. Before that, 95% of my posts are simply assisting members with accurate/relevant information or explaining various aspects of Android and hardware. I was denied because of post count.
This community used to be about learning and teaching, but the attitude and general reception of that ideology is long since past. The general attitude now is to self-serve and receive instant gratification. Look at people like Dan Rosenberg @djrbliss and ask them why they left. Incredibly talented developers and researchers used to thrive in this community and now are expected to spoon-feed everyone. There has definitely been a paradigm shift and it's definitely sad to see. I miss the early days of Android and even back when this site was dedicated to WM5/6 on XDA devices. Competent users no longer contribute to this community and I really don't blame them. It's all about scripts and one-click tools and completely missing the point of XDA-DEVELOPERS
I know @Surge1223 would echo this sentiment, but to be honest, I highly doubt any change in the foreseeable future. In a couple years, I envision XDA as a wasteland of Root Bounty threads and people complaining about Xposed not working.
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I've been a member of XDA since January of 2008, before 99% of the moderators had even heard of it, and before Android was released. Since then, the community has literally tumbled down to such a disappointing low. There's absolutely no incentive for developers to stick around anymore, and some of the members show such blatant disrespect for those who try to help them. Absolutely no one tries to learn how to do something as simple as learning how to use ADB. Another gripe I have with XDA is titles such as Recognized Contributor. Requiring a minimum post amount is quite a poor metric for contributions to the community. We should be judged based on content rather than quantity of low-quality/redundant posts.
For example, I applied for Recognized Contributor just because, after releasing a bootloader unlock for three Samsung devices along with another well-recognized and skilled developer, in addition to supporting the users who chose to utilize it. Before that, 95% of my posts are simply assisting members with accurate/relevant information or explaining various aspects of Android and hardware. I was denied because of post count.
This community used to be about learning and teaching, but the attitude and general reception of that ideology is long since past. The general attitude now is to self-serve and receive instant gratification. Look at people like Dan Rosenberg @djrbliss and ask them why they left. Incredibly talented developers and researchers used to thrive in this community and now are expected to spoon-feed everyone. There has definitely been a paradigm shift and it's definitely sad to see. I miss the early days of Android and even back when this site was dedicated to WM5/6 on XDA devices. Competent users no longer contribute to this community and I really don't blame them. It's all about scripts and one-click tools and completely missing the point of XDA-DEVELOPERS
I know @Surge1223 would echo this sentiment, but to be honest, I doubt I see any change every coming at this point.
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Agree with this 100 percent. Also IMHO the post rule should be raised to 100 posts before posts in development. If they can contribute have them message the OP and if the OP thinks they can contribute then lift the limit for said user on said thread. I cannot tell you how many threads I just don't even bother reading after seeing a couple posts than are just as easily answered by googling questions.
Often even new R&D threads are just placeholders where people hope a "dev" will come chime in and then they can piggy back off of that. The whole culture has changed and its horrible and sad to see this. Also there is very little structure or general polling of those that drive the ideas and development this site thrives on. I definitely get the feeling the site is moving more towards generating traffic and less towards being a content driven site.
Sadly I think a lot of people are on board with the change.
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I've been a member of XDA since January of 2008, before 99% of the moderators had even heard of it, and before Android was released. Since then, the community has literally tumbled down to such a disappointing low. There's absolutely no incentive for developers to stick around anymore, and some of the members show such blatant disrespect for those who try to help them. Absolutely no one tries to learn how to do something as simple as learning how to use ADB. Another gripe I have with XDA is titles such as Recognized Contributor. Requiring a minimum post amount is quite a poor metric for contributions to the community. We should be judged based on content rather than quantity of low-quality/redundant posts.
For example, I applied for Recognized Contributor just because, after releasing a bootloader unlock for three Samsung devices along with another well-recognized and skilled developer, in addition to supporting the users who chose to utilize it. Before that, 95% of my posts are simply assisting members with accurate/relevant information or explaining various aspects of Android and hardware. I was denied because of post count.
This community used to be about learning and teaching, but the attitude and general reception of that ideology is long since past. The general attitude now is to self-serve and receive instant gratification. Look at people like Dan Rosenberg @djrbliss and ask them why they left. Incredibly talented developers and researchers used to thrive in this community and now are expected to spoon-feed everyone. There has definitely been a paradigm shift and it's definitely sad to see. I miss the early days of Android and even back when this site was dedicated to WM5/6 on XDA devices. Competent users no longer contribute to this community and I really don't blame them. It's all about scripts and one-click tools and completely missing the point of XDA-DEVELOPERS
I know @Surge1223 would echo this sentiment, but to be honest, I doubt I see any change every coming at this point.
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Hi,
I understand your disappointment and frustration. Since we both joined XDA in 2008, XDA has grown to such a very large community that it needs very clear rules to be maintaned/managed as best as possible. Therefore it is for XDA not possible anymore to keep every member satisfied. Of course a lot has changed, sometimes leading to better results and sometimes not, but that's the reality. Besides that, the amount of different devices has grown enourmously, making the work of Mods, Admins and even higher not easier. I still see and know a lot of competent users who are willing to contribute to this community. I also know a lot of Mods and Admins with the best intentions to make XDA better. In summary: the purpose of this thread is to get/receive new ideas how to make XDA better organized in the future and/or add features to XDA that are now missing. That's my mission.
kindest regards, kuzibri
I ordered my new Moto G6 Plus. It should arrive approximately the 7th of May.
Leaving the potter section of XDA won't be that hard.
The developers of potter do great jobs. No doubt about that. But somehow they hate XDA and do a lot via Telegram. That's not my cup of tea to be honest.
Pleading for XDA on their threads made them angry on me. They wanted me to leave. So, here I go.
Hoping the Moto G6 Plus has better support on XDA...
Thank you all and goodbye!
smitharro said:
I ordered my new Moto G6 Plus. It should arrive approximately the 7th of May.
Leaving the potter section of XDA won't be that hard.
The developers of potter do great jobs. No doubt about that. But somehow they hate XDA and do a lot via Telegram. That's not my cup of tea to be honest.
Pleading for XDA on their threads made them angry on me. They wanted me to leave. So, here I go.
Hoping the Moto G6 Plus has better support on XDA...
Thank you all and goodbye!
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I also agree to the fact that things should be posted more on here than Telegram but I've noticed quite a lot of devs now using Telegram as their main app to announce/post about their work. But then again, who are we to tell them, it's their choice after all so can't really judge. Anyways, farewell.
psychopac said:
I also agree to the fact that things should be posted more on here than Telegram but I've noticed quite a lot of devs now using Telegram as their main app to announce/post about their work. But then again, who are we to tell them, it's their choice after all so can't really judge. Anyways, farewell.
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I know that all those devs who can bear the responsibilty to cater the needs of the xda users present their work here and those who don't have enough time or interest in answering and resolving user queries put their work somewhere else .
What I don't understand that how could any Dev be made a bad figure if doesn't put all his work on xda . They definitely share their work which is stable and good in xda .
Anyways, xda app team should think about introducing some major changes to this platform so that it becomes very interactive and Dev/user friendly .
One last point , in other platforms irritating users can be kicked or banned instant unlike xda where some arrogant user just blames the Dev for everything .
I love xda and ill try my bit in near future to help themake it better .
smitharro said:
I ordered my new Moto G6 Plus. It should arrive approximately the 7th of May.
Leaving the potter section of XDA won't be that hard.
The developers of potter do great jobs. No doubt about that. But somehow they hate XDA and do a lot via Telegram. That's not my cup of tea to be honest.
Pleading for XDA on their threads made them angry on me. They wanted me to leave. So, here I go.
Hoping the Moto G6 Plus has better support on XDA...
Thank you all and goodbye!
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They are not paid for their work, not even credited properly. So i don't think there is any point in asking them to post things to XDA. For me, its ok to grab ROMS and other resources from where ever they are available. I don't care if its XDA, Telegram or whatever. Moreover in future telegram may become more popular than XDA for developers as it is more convenient and faster than XDA.
This is my opinion and personally, I understand the hard work of developers out there, at least we run oreo on potter because of them.
well ,you know that lately there are a lot of trouble with the XDA moderators doing some stuff that makes the developers upset.. this could be one of the reasons
smitharro said:
I ordered my new Moto G6 Plus. It should arrive approximately the 7th of May.
Leaving the potter section of XDA won't be that hard.
The developers of potter do great jobs. No doubt about that. But somehow they hate XDA and do a lot via Telegram. That's not my cup of tea to be honest.
Pleading for XDA on their threads made them angry on me. They wanted me to leave. So, here I go.
Hoping the Moto G6 Plus has better support on XDA...
Thank you all and goodbye!
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I first recognised you in the Titan section, that device had first class development, lots of ROMs, kernels, tweaks and tools. Now we met here and maybe we meet again in another devices thread again.
I don't have such a big problem in using telegram or developers doing so but XDA is such a well known source, probably the most important website in kinds of android so it should be the first place to get knowledge and grab software in a secure way.
Maybe XDA has to move with the times a bit more.
Wish you all the best with the G6+!
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
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They are not paid for their work, not even credited properly. So i don't think there is any point in asking them to post things to XDA. For me, its ok to grab ROMS and other resources from where ever they are available. I don't care if its XDA, Telegram or whatever. Moreover in future telegram may become more popular than XDA for developers as it is more convenient and faster than XDA.
This is my opinion and personally, I understand the hard work of developers out there, at least we run oreo on potter because of them.
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Ik know all about roms, and I also know the devs aren't payed for their hard work. And yes, it's up to them we're they post. I know. But Telegram? It's a chat app like Whatsapp. And it's, imho way to fast. Before you know it there are over a 1000 posts! I have to scroll through all that mambo jambo to find something useful. But hey, it's just me. Maybe I'm getting too old for this. I can manage, but I don't like it.
Wolfcity said:
I first recognised you in the Titan section, that device had first class development, lots of ROMs, kernels, tweaks and tools. Now we met here and maybe we meet again in another devices thread again.
I don't have such a big problem in using telegram or developers doing so but XDA is such a well known source, probably the most important website in kinds of android so it should be the first place to get knowledge and grab software in a secure way.
Maybe XDA has to move with the times a bit more.
Wish you all the best with the G6+!
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
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Yeah, thanks for your reaction. Maybe not only XDA has to move with time. Maybe me also.
For now: there's nothing there for the G6+... So I'll be on 'stock' for a while. Let's see were the roms for that phone will emerge...
Telegram is bae
The problem with doing things behind closed doors is shady things can be done. On XDA, you must post sources etc, and any XDA mod can inspect your ROM and hold you accountable. I'm not saying anyone has bad intentions, just that it opens up way more possibilities for foul play.
Cupcake 1.5 said:
The problem with doing things begin closed doors is shady things can be done. On XDA, you must post sources etc, and any XDA mod can inspect your ROM and hold you accountable. I'm not saying anyone has bad intentions, just that it opens up way more possibilities for foul play.
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That's what I wanted to say with "grab software in a secure way". XDA is a reliable source and you can count on mods that control the stuff. Imho that's a reason why XDA is the No.1 in android development.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
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That's what I wanted to say with "grab software in a secure way". XDA is a reliable source and you can count on mods that control the stuff. Imho that's a reason why XDA is the No.1 in android development.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
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Unfortunately not for every developer.
Can anyone give me those Telegram group links for Moto g5 plus development. I need it please. Thankyou
sunmughans said:
Can anyone give me those Telegram group links for Moto g5 plus development. I need it please. Thankyou
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https://t.me/g5pluslinks
Just stumbled upon this thread in the Discussion section, and had a few remarks to make.
1) I value @smitharro's contributions to potter and it is unfortunate that he is leaving this device's forum.
2) The developers do this work for free, on their own accord, with their own precious time. They are welcome to use any platform available to their liking. While I do prefer XDA, there is plenty of organization on Telegram as well; the announcements link posted above me is perfect for anyone not wanting to sift through thousands of unrelated messages.
3) Potter has great development, I really don't know how someone could possibly want to leave... but to each their own.
Enjoy your G6!
Edit: Made a little softer. I don't want to make anyone angry or frustrated.
Jrhotrod said:
Just stumbled upon this thread in the Discussion section, and had a few remarks to make.
1) I value @smitharro's contributions to potter and it is unfortunate that he is leaving this device's forum.
2) The developers do this work for free, on their own accord, with their own precious time. They are welcome to use any platform available to their liking. While I do prefer XDA, there is plenty of organization on Telegram as well; the announcements link posted above me is perfect for anyone not wanting to sift through thousands of unrelated messages.
3) Why do you, @smitharro, feel the need to publicize this? To me it seems to be an attention grab and playing the victim. You have already voiced your opinion on the issue (as you have the right to) but it becomes repetitive and annoying at a point. You don't know that the developers "hate" XDA because you do not know what they think, nor do you know that they wanted you to "leave" by the same path of logic.
I'll get off my soapbox now. Enjoy your G6 smitharro.
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Thanks for your words. I buried the case, after my frustration sank. Sorry I bothered people with this. Hope to see development in the Moto G6 Plus section soon!
I have no real opinion on this but thought I could add a couple things to clarify:
Cupcake 1.5 said:
The problem with doing things behind closed doors is shady things can be done. On XDA, you must post sources etc, and any XDA mod can inspect your ROM and hold you accountable. I'm not saying anyone has bad intentions, just that it opens up way more possibilities for foul play.
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Wolfcity said:
That's what I wanted to say with "grab software in a secure way". XDA is a reliable source and you can count on mods that control the stuff. Imho that's a reason why XDA is the No.1 in android development.
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Git sources are publicly available regardless of where new builds are posted. If someone doesn't know to look for this without a link being put right in front of their face, they probably don't know how to review the code to confirm their security while using it, either. (For the record, I'm also not smart enough to do this myself.)
Unless you build something yourself, you can't really guarantee that what the dev has compiled is exactly what you see in the source code that has been made available. Telegram or XDA, you're putting the same level of trust in the same individuals.
You'd also be remiss to believe that all XDA mod take the time and have the expertise to review every code repository posted to their site. That's not counting closed source content, which is shared both here and on Telegram. It's always going to be up to the user to make responsible choices. Or not. :highfive:
Hi,
Not sure if this thread is in the right section, so I apologize if its not..
I have a huawei watch first gen running android wear 2.0
I wonder if its possible to root it or flash some custom firmware. I would really like to increase my privacy with this watch and rmeove all bloatware ****.
Thanks!
cHECKjAM said:
Hi, Not sure if this thread is in the right section, so I apologize if its not...........
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I don't have this device but, the following area of the forum is specific to your device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-watch
The following thread may be helpful for what you are looking for that's specific to your device. Don't be afraid to ask for some member guidance as well.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3291270
Good Luck!
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