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Logitech Tablet Mouse for Android 3.1+

Just found this: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/tablet-accessories/for-android/devices/tablet-mouse-android
I hope this works generically on all Android 3.1+ Tablets rather than a limited subset of supported Tablets. If it works with the Tab 10.1 then creating a docking station at home would be so straight forward. Keyboard and mouse connected via Bluetooth and then connected to monitor via HDMI cable. It would avoid the need of Samsung's desktop dock accessory which will probably be quite expensive.
I'm pretty sure I can do 95% of things at home on the Android tablet while the other 5% I can get away with remoting into a headless Windows PC from the Android tablet.

Interesting. Thanks for the link.
Reaching for the tablet screen to manipulate has always seemed a weakness of the wireless/bluetooth tablet keyboards. Maybe a keyboard with embedded touchpadcould remove the need for a separate device (mouse).

Techno79 said:
Just found this:
I hope this works generically on all Android 3.1+ Tablets rather than a limited subset of supported Tablets. If it works with the Tab 10.1 then creating a docking station at home would be so straight forward. Keyboard and mouse connected via Bluetooth and then connected to monitor via HDMI cable. It would avoid the need of Samsung's desktop dock accessory which will probably be quite expensive.
I'm pretty sure I can do 95% of things at home on the Android tablet while the other 5% I can get away with remoting into a headless Windows PC from the Android tablet.
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It would definitely work on the 10.1
You may even try other brands of mice, the 3.1 software should be compatible, but it will be hit or miss.
So far, Samsung desktop dock accessory looks better than the others in my opinion, but it's not rechargeable so you can't bring it with you on a trip and that's a big negative.

Why would the desktop dock accessory need to be rechargeable? I would have assumed that any power it needs will be drawn from the Tab or from mains if it is connected to power (which would also charge the Tab at the same time). I really hope that the desktop dock provides USB ports for keyboard and mouse as well as HDMI connection to a monitor and thus it gives full docking functionality.
With regards to Logitech's bluetooth mouse, I didn't know standard Bluetooth supported mice. The fact that they do probably means we'll see cheaper devices coming out and possibly a Bluetooth dongle/device that will allow cheap USB keyboards/mice to be plugged in instead.
Time will tell I'm sure.

rubi76 said:
So far, Samsung desktop dock accessory looks better than the others in my opinion
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Do you have a link to look at it?
Also, is it for sale already? Where?
EDIT: found it: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ECR-K14AWEGSTA#

Techno79 said:
Why would the desktop dock accessory need to be rechargeable? I would have assumed that any power it needs will be drawn from the Tab or from mains if it is connected to power (which would also charge the Tab at the same time). I really hope that the desktop dock provides USB ports for keyboard and mouse as well as HDMI connection to a monitor and thus it gives full docking functionality.
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Well, if it would be rechargeable it would just be a nice plus - to use it on planes or somewhere where you don't have a plug.
It looks like this model doesn't have a USB connection - probably the same port that's on the galaxy tab itself.
I also saw another keyboard on a video that's more of a folded case, hope that one is portable.

What accesssories are you ordering with your Nexus?

I'm planning on ordering from Expansys and getting at least the MHL adapter (would the Expansys one work as well as the official Samsung one?), a car kit, and maybe this sleek looking case once it's in stock.

I would get the HTC MHL adapter. It looks much better and the ports are arranged more logically.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-mhl-adapter.html
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I'll be getting (when in stock) an extra battery
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery.html
and another charger for it
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-battery-charger.html

I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.

mskip said:
I have a soft pouch for when im out. I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive. I also bought a 7000mAh battery pack to charge it on the go. I did ponder on whether to buy a spare battery but that means turning the phone off, taking the battery out and changing it so a battery pack which can recharge a nearly empty battery at least 3 times makes more sense. It also has 2 outputs so you can charge 2 phones at once or power any usb device from it .
Im waiting until the samsung car dock and portrait multimedia dock are released. I was going to get an mhl adapter but I need a desk dock anyway and the docks for the nexus will have hdmi ports in them so you can output direct to a tv or monitor without the need for ugly connectors.
Mark.
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Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable

gabster21 said:
Wow, didn't know they Nexus could act as a USB host. Does that mean you can read any file off a flash drive? What about portable hard drives (I'm assuming they would need external power)?
That battery pack looks nice, too bad they don't have it on expansys. It will cost me too much to ship each item from individual websites along with my Nexus
Edit: Just found the Usb host on the go thread and it seems that it is not supported out of the box (yet), you might need to flash a custom kernel for it to work until Google fixes it. That said I still ordered the cable
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Paul at Modaco has made a custom kernel to support usb drives *HERE*. I havent tested that function yet though so I cant confirm it works.
Mark.

I just picked up a MilitaryShield screen protector and carbon fiber skin from amazon. I thought for $15 I couldn't go wrong.
telepathically sent with my Galaxy Nexus which is being imprisoned by FedEx

i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?

i already bought the screen protector and mhl. will be buying a soft holster pouch if my droid x one doesnt fit in and probably some sort of case. maybe the one with the kickstand. and a battery

just bought a black leather fitbag case for it, also looking at buying a battery pack for it to charge on the go

Iv ordered a cheap ebay case, the leather flip one for when im out, £5 cant go wrong....

I want to be able to connect my Nexus to my Tv and watch videos and also play emulated games using controllers, so I'm getting the MHL Adapter and HDMI Cable. Free shipping on amazon? don't mind if I do.

idan_mo said:
i still think what will be the best dock, this one:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-multimedia-dock.html
or this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Desktop-Dock-Galaxy-Nexus/dp/B006GJ5S3S
the 1st one has both HDMI & mini-USB.
the 2nd one is the official and uses the pogo pins but only mini-USB and audio jack.
my goal is connecting the nexus to my lcd tv with a controller such a usb gamepad.
any benefits for the pogo pins? should i connect MHL to the back of the dock?
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For what you're using it for, the 2nd one won't work, unless you plug the mhl cable directly into the phone (the port should be open since it's in landscape). Everyone needs to keep in mind that the 2nd one only charges it. It WILL NOT connect to a computer for file transfer, nor will it support mhl/HDMI out.
In terms of ease of use and function, I prefer the 2nd one though, because (going off how the nexus one worked) you can just drop the phone in/take it out one handed easily; no need to line the port up. This actually works better than the n1, since it would always fall over if you weren't careful (since it was oriented in portrait mode). In addition, the phone should automatically connect to the dock through bluetooth, which I loved on the N1.
Hope this helps your decision. Oh, and I'm definitely getting the official Samsung landscape dock

so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?

idan_mo said:
so, in the back of the official dock i can connect, for example, a gamepad/controller and since the dock is landscape, i can connect to the phone the mhl cable, is that right?
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For the official portrait dock, you may or may not be able to connect everything to the back of the dock. It depends on if Samsung is foolish or not.
For the official landscape dock (with the pins) the back can ONLY be used for charging the phone. The controller and HDMI out would have to be placed in the port of the phone itself, assuming that it actually shows while sitting in the dock (I don't know if it even does). The whole point of this dock is to be a stylish desk clock/charger, and nothing else. (Again, going off of the nexus one dock. There's an extremely slight possibility that they've improved the pin connector tech, but as far as I know, it wouldn't be enough to port full video through)
So for your uses, get the portrait dock. It connects to the phone via usb, and while it may not be as fancy as the landscape one, it'll almost definitely be more useful to you.

thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?

idan_mo said:
thank you!
oh, lets say i use usb splitter on my nexus, the question is if the usb splitter still support so i can connect for example gamepad, keyboard and mouse ?
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Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.

tsunami1609 said:
Well I know that a usb splitter will cover the gamepad, keyboard and mouse since they're all usb, but if you're considering a keyboard and mouse I'd say go for a bluetooth set. They connect extremely easily and work out of the box; I've tested it with my own mouse. Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
Of course if you don't have any of those and don't want to spend the money/already have a set you want to use then here's what you do: get something like one of these:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/29367-HT...HDMI-TV-Out-Cable-AC-M490-Reviews.htm#reviews
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
and connect it to the phone. Then if you still decide to do the usb route rather than bluetooth then connect your usb splitter to the adapter. That way the MHL adapter still can send out HDMI and send in the usb inputs from the splitter.
And you'll have a full game/workstation from your phone. Not sure how effective it will be (since the homescreen/some apps don't work in landscape) but it'll definitely be cool for games.
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Actually, it's either MHL or USB. They use the same pins, so you can never get USB and MHL to work at the same time.
If you want HDMI output and controller input at the same time, Bluetooth is the only way to go.

mskip said:
I bought a usb connector so I can plug in a usb adapter for a mouse and keyboard or plug in a flash drive.
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Make sure it's a USB-OTG cable and not a simple adapter. That one doesn't say that it's OTG. May still be though.

tsunami1609 said:
Come to think of it, I'd say get a ps3 controller too. Then you could connect to the phone using bluetooth with the controller as well. Then you'd have no wires between you and the phone, which is slick in my opinion.
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Has anyone tried the Sixaxis tool from the market on the SGS and confirm it works?
Also, I bought this USB micro to female adapter from Expansys: http://www.expansys.ae/expansys-micro-usb-male-to-usb-female-adapter-223101/
How do I find out if it's OTG or not?

Motorola Atrix Lapdock and Galaxy S III

Has anyone connected their Galaxy S III up to a Motorola Atrix Lapdock?

If I remember well, the Motorola lapdock uses a HDMI plug to connect with the Atrix.
GS3 doesn't have one, you should get a MHL/HDMI convertor. Don't know if it'll work as a native HDMI plug will do.
If someone have both, it could be intereting to see if that work

So I'm going to dust this thread off a bit because this is the project I'm looking to work on -
I've ordered an Atrix Lapdock for my Bionic (very simple mod to dock the bionic) but as my personal phone is an S3, I'd like to use the lapdock with it primarily while still having the option to dock the bionic while on the go (I carry both phones). (While I'm at it, I'll probably look to get an hdmi micro extension cable and usb-micro-male to usb-A-male extension and try and use the lapdock as the base station for the Samsung Slate 7 PC i barely use since the interface is so poor)
Here's what I've gathered by reading various threads.
Lapdock:
The Lapdock will work with any HDMI source as seen in other threads (ie connecting to a PS3 via hdmi female micro to hdmi male standard adapter, $4 part from dealextreme). Others have posted how they can use the lapdock as a self powered hdmi external monitor with their laptop (very cool usage btw considering it's size)
Droid Bionic:
easily docks to the Atrix version of the lapdock by simply rotating the hdmi/micro usb connectors 180degrees in their sockets since they're piped in with short cables.
Galaxy SIII / S3 (mine is the T999):
here's where it gets tricky.
As I've gathered about the 11pin micro usb port (on the S3 and shared by the Note 2):
the original 5 pin MHL standard was ditched in favor of the 11pin MHL type connection. this in theory would allow the use of hdmi output with simultaneous usb otg and charging capabilities.
reviewing this thread here: (showthread.php?t=1953061&page=2) one can see that an OTG cable was modded with a simple resistor to allow for charging - member triff (the OP) was able to get this going and noted the log he got when the cable was plugged in reported 'hdmi fail' which leans to failing to initiate an hdmi connection... later in the thread member MRBR7 alludes to having an hdd running to view while charging on the OTG cable - his post is a bit vague as to whether he did the mod on an OTG cable or an HDMI cable.... i'll have to follow up.
finally, the posts in this thread (first 12 pages are a quick read showthread.php?t=1741583&page=12) provide resistor values and some close ups of the boards for the 11 to 5 pin adapter as well as what I thought was a list of pins for the 5 pin MHL.
I'm really trying to be purposefully clear in this thread as to my findings because it seems there are too many vague threads out there regarding the functionality; simply missing a letter or punctuation in a thread can turn a sure thing into a vague post...
another avenue is the official samsung galaxy note 2 "smart dock" which has 3 usb ports, in additon to an hdmi output and charging input - since this is sold out in the US (and due to PAL vs NTSC Standard I am hesitant to order from germany) it'll be a while before I can personally buy and test one (unless i can find one locally somehow). this seems like the best bet for a dock which can be hacked or adapted to interface the s3 with the lapdock.
my ideal final outcome of this thread would be to have a small cable or interface box which i can plug into the s3 to enable hdmi output + usb otg + charging. that trifecta would connect via a single micro-usb to the device (11 pin) and have an output of a female usb (A or micro, either can be adapted) and either a male or female standard hdmi (again, both of which can be adapted). this cable could enable the phone to be used as an impromptu desktop, carputer, lapdock brain etc...

Lapdock software required...
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deedscreen said:
Lapdock software required...
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What do you mean by that?
The Atrix Lapdock is internally nothing but an 1366x768 HDMI LCD monitor with (rather poor) speakers and an USB-Hub on which a keyboard/touchpad and two free USB-ports are connected to. The monitor and the USB-hub have to be simply attached to any device which supports HDMI-output and USB-OTG via (slightly uncommon) HDMI- and USB-OTG-plugs.
There is no software running on the Lapdock (it is actually completely dumb) and there is no need for any specific SW on the connected device (might be nice to have something like webtop running but it is not necessary).
The S3 works flawlessly with the keyboard/touchpad/USB-hub using a USB-OTG-Adapter and with the HDMI-monitor via an MHL/HDMI adapter cable. The tricky part is only to get both simultaneously and possibly even charge the S3 from the Lapdock. For that purpose I use as long as there is no combined MHL-HDMI/USB-OTG-adapter/dock available (as described in the thread and page already indicated above: showthread.php?t=1741583&page=12 ) the allshare cast dongle and a cheap OTG adapter. You can use office apps, watch videos, play games etc. without any problem. You can check out
ecx . images-amazon . com/images/I/712%2BAbT1u3L.png
(no links for me yet)
to see how that looks like...

a32quaeler said:
What do you mean by that?
The Atrix Lapdock is internally nothing but an 1366x768 HDMI LCD monitor with (rather poor) speakers and an USB-Hub on which a keyboard/touchpad and two free USB-ports are connected to. The monitor and the USB-hub have to be simply attached to any device which supports HDMI-output and USB-OTG via (slightly uncommon) HDMI- and USB-OTG-plugs.
There is no software running on the Lapdock (it is actually completely dumb) and there is no need for any specific SW on the connected device (might be nice to have something like webtop running but it is not necessary).
The S3 works flawlessly with the keyboard/touchpad/USB-hub using a USB-OTG-Adapter and with the HDMI-monitor via an MHL/HDMI adapter cable. The tricky part is only to get both simultaneously and possibly even charge the S3 from the Lapdock. For that purpose I use as long as there is no combined MHL-HDMI/USB-OTG-adapter/dock available (as described in the thread and page already indicated above: showthread.php?t=1741583&page=12 ) the allshare cast dongle and a cheap OTG adapter. You can use office apps, watch videos, play games etc. without any problem. You can check out
ecx . images-amazon . com/images/I/712%2BAbT1u3L.png
(no links for me yet)
to see how that looks like...
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Interesting..especially for the 89$ price tag. Long as one can deal with S3 not charging its a simple setup no ?

xManMythLegend said:
Interesting..especially for the 89$ price tag. Long as one can deal with S3 not charging its a simple setup no ?
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Well, I got the Lapdock for less than 70 Euros and I think that is really great value since it is very well build and versatile... the allshare cast dongle is a bit overpriced (currently it is about 55Euros here) for an adapter-replacement but if you need it for different use cases (I mainly have it for a small LED-beamer) it might be worth it.
You can charge the S3 from one of the USB-ports of the Lapdock using a micro-USB cable (as long as the dongle or any other device is connected to the Lapdocks HDMI-plug - that is what signals the Lapdock to power up), but you can not simultaneously use the MHL/USB-OTG then. So it is nice for watching movies from your S3 on the Lapdock-screen (btw. the sound works fine as well) while re-charging the S3 but for "office" work with kb/touchpad you have to replug the OTG-cable. Actually I'm quite impressed with the relatively low power consumption of the allshare cast connection - so that is not a real problem IMHO. There might be people out there to solder the right resistors into OTG-adapter cables to allow both...
One disadvantage is obviously that you have this "bulky" (it is actually lightweight but still bigger than a simple adapter) dongle on the Lapdock. The big advantage over a dock is that you can more or less freely move around the S3 while using this combination.

deedscreen said:
Lapdock software required...
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you obviously don't know anything about the lapdock, so please, hang around, do some searching and learn about what it is before posting vague comments that ruin the integrity of a factual thread.
xManMythLegend said:
Interesting..especially for the 89$ price tag. Long as one can deal with S3 not charging its a simple setup no ?
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google 'bens outlet' (a 1saleaday company) and you can pick one up for as little as $50usd! assuming it actually ships out, but worth it for a spare monitor project at the very least... - and yes, not a hard setup at all - the first use in my mind would be just to have a full size screen on the go, however to have a cable capable of mhl/hdmi + usb otg + charging would turn the dock into a powerhouse android laptop using 4g internet etc... (it'll give the chromebook a run for it's money)
a32quaeler said:
the allshare cast dongle is a bit overpriced (currently it is about 55Euros here) for an adapter-replacement but if you need it for different use cases (I mainly have it for a small LED-beamer) it might be worth it.
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what's this LED beamer? (i'm just intrigued)
a32quaeler said:
You can charge the S3 from one of the USB-ports of the Lapdock using a micro-USB cable (as long as the dongle or any other device is connected to the Lapdocks HDMI-plug - that is what signals the Lapdock to power up), but you can not simultaneously use the MHL/USB-OTG then. So it is nice for watching movies from your S3 on the Lapdock-screen (btw. the sound works fine as well) while re-charging the S3 but for "office" work with kb/touchpad you have to replug the OTG-cable. Actually I'm quite impressed with the relatively low power consumption of the allshare cast connection - so that is not a real problem IMHO. There might be people out there to solder the right resistors into OTG-adapter cables to allow both...
One disadvantage is obviously that you have this "bulky" (it is actually lightweight but still bigger than a simple adapter) dongle on the Lapdock. The big advantage over a dock is that you can more or less freely move around the S3 while using this combination.
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all very cool - I'm thinking of ordering the allshare dongle just to try this out until the smartdock gets back in stock to hack it apart .. I'll probably order an 11pin mhl in the meantime too. I have a 5pin mhl, not sure what I can do with it without the adapter (i'll probably bundle it with my galaxy nexus and sell it all)
@a32: on a side note, i broke down and bought a Note 2 yesterday haha, so I'll probably be continuing this project with the Note2, (tmo just happened to have some in stock haha) I'm putting my week old S3 up for sale soon, but this project is still on my radar!

teshgnex said:
you obviously don't know anything about the lapdock, so please, hang around, do some searching and learn about what it is before posting vague comments that...
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The S3 would need the lapdock .apk for certain functionality... calm down, I've owned enough Motorola Android devices to know what I'm saying...
Thats all... Ben's Outlet would be good plus All4Cellular sells it with the extenders...
Its out of stock now but you can get the extenders separately at a hefty price:
www.all4cellular.com/motorola-atrix-4g-laptop-dock-hdmi-upgrade-kit.html
The hefty priced cables are below, but it is worth the cost:
www.all4cellular.com/motorola-atrix-4g-upgrade-kit.html

deedscreen said:
The S3 would need the lapdock .apk for certain functionality... calm down, I've owned enough Motorola Android devices to know what I'm saying...
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Sorry to snap, but if you've been on enough forums, you begin to notice that comments like yours are just add to confusion when unsubstantiated.
Any phone without a 'web top' mode or apk would obviously not work similar to the webtop mode that Motorola intended, however it'll still work, perfectly in fact, because this connection project is akin to hooking up your phone to a tv or monitor and using a usb mouse and keyboard to control it, albeit it's portable, like the padphone.
If you have any ideas as to how one could hookup both mhl/hdmi and usb/otg with charging I'm all ears (the real breakthrough would easily be seeing a US version T999 or similar running with the Smart Dock for the Note 2
Another thought to throw out there is whether this finished product could look similar to the padphone concept: a pocket for the phone to slip into, docking connector inside, basically self contained
As for those extension cables posted, places like monoprice and dealextreme have much better prices and selection, granted I'm just going those links on my phone - i don't understand how those are considered 'adapters' when all they do is extend the port
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Silly question but why would you need software when your using it as a monitor, keyboard, mouse, usb hub & charging?

djashjones said:
Silly question but why would you need software when your using it as a monitor, keyboard, mouse, usb hub & charging?
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You don't.
... that's what we posted already. The webtop SW on some Motorola devices starts a specific desktop and window-manager on your phone when connecting to the lapdock. It may facilitate the use of the apps on the phone via the Lapdock (resolution/size/... of apps in windows etc.) but you do not need it to work with the S3 on the Lapdock.

awesome! im very tempted to get one but in the UK they are still expensive

teshgnex said:
what's this LED beamer? (i'm just intrigued)
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A bit off-topic: It is an ACER C20 I own for nearly 2 years now. Like this one:
ecx . images-amazon . com/images/I/41aXbNerVoL._SL500_.jpg
It is out of stock anyway, but I could "partly" recommend it:
It has the size of a phone, a built-in battery and - most important - lots of inputs (mini HDMI (HDCP), D-Sub (24-pin Universal), Composite Video/Audio (2.5mm 4-pin mini jack), micro USB (Typ AB), micro SD Card (SDHC)) + Audio out & speaker. It plays media from internal storage/SD card but that internal media-player is crap. It is however extremely mobile and together with movie players on modern phones like the S3+cast-dongle - or any tablet with HDMI-out or a device with Composite A/V out (e.g. old Nokias) - a nice device e.g. to entertain kids on travel or showing pictures while visiting the grandparents or alike. On the other hand, it is not really bright at all (actually you have to be in a very, very dark room to use larger screen areas) and the battery lasts often only 1/2 hour (but you can charge it with 5V from USBs or use it while on the mains adapter).
It works really nice with the S3 + allshare cast dongle (that's what I bought the dongle for in the first place), has a descent image quality (848x480 pixel) and accepts up to 1080i HD over HDMI as input signal for downscaling but for the dongle the input is of course limited 720p. It does NOT work with the S3 using the cheap (chinese) USB-MHL/HDMI-adapter with the long red cables (somewhere discussed here as well) since that one provides 1080p30Hz (at least to my TV - on which it works) and the projector obviously can't sync to that.
Back to the topic: that cheap HDMI-adapter for S3 works not very well with the Atrix Lapdock; you get an image but it is vertically squeezed. Again: the Lapdock and the S3 + cast dongle go together extremely well.

That led projector sounds pretty cool, I've waffle'd on buying one various times but can't say I've had a particular need other than for the fun of it hah
a32quaeler said:
Back to the topic: that cheap HDMI-adapter for S3 works not very well with the Atrix Lapdock; you get an image but it is vertically squeezed. Again: the Lapdock and the S3 + cast dongle go together extremely well.
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So I'm guessing you've tested this, but with the hdmi cable and the screen rotation turned on, the device still shows up in portrait? Unless I'm reading that wrong and you mean it's width wise video but looks like a 4:3 video on a 16:9 widescreen?
I wonder if that behavior is present with the official adapter...
So to return to the method of the allshare dongle, does it look like image 1 as i posted?
I recall you mentioned the dongle's hdmi signal is what triggers the docks micro usb port for kb/mouse control and charging, so for clarity i drew the wiring method up.
The next two wiring diagrams are what I'd expect to do as i finalize what the connection should/could look like...
I'm always in for feedback on streamlining the connections - the simple yet two part method will be just having the official smart dock, assuming it works with the s3, powered with one usb port, hdmi to hdmi mini and usb micro to the usb port, though maybe modify the output to delete charging power from the kb/m micro usb port...
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I recall you mentioned the dongle's hdmi signal is what triggers the docks micro usb port for kb/mouse control and charging, so for clarity i drew the wiring method up.
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Sorry, don't have much time and will have a look at your drawings later... The presence(!) of a device connected to the HDMI is detected by checking for a "Ground"-connection of one of the HDMI-pins (from googling I remember it to be HDMI-DDC/CEC) - that's what powers up the Lapdock (and activates the USB-Ports). No need for an already powered device on that HDMI port. The problem is however that there are many HDMI adapters/extension cables out there which do not pass that specific wire/connection and then the Lapdock will not react when using those. There is however no need to buy these overexpensive Motorola cable sets (those prices are unbelievable!)... my adapters & cables cost in total about 9 Euros.
+5V on the OTG-USB cable from the peripheral device (=Lapdock) to the host is not "liked" by most hosts (the S3 did not really react on it but it is probably not a good idea anyhow) so I cut the 5V red wire of the micro-USB(female)-to-micro-USB(male)-cable. On the latter you need something to signal the S3 the OTG mode (pin 4 grounded to 5). I do that quite stupidly using additional USB->OTG-adapters but you would have to take care of that in your MHL/OTC combi adapter with resistors etc. anyhow.
The "chinese" Adapter is vertically squeezed. The S3 goes into the correct HDMI-out mode including the (stock) homescreen to be usable in landscape mode - that is not a problem. Probably the 1080p30Hz mode is not well understood by the Lapdock and/or the adapter does not correctly "negotiate" the right resolution-/display ratio with the display or the quality of the sync signal from the adapter is really bad. That chinese adapter is not too bad for Full-HD TV sets but unusable for anything else. I did not try the official one. The Lapdock works however well with the dongle.

This info is much appreciated. I took the dive and ordered a lapdock from bensoutlet.com for $50 to play with. The regular one is $60 - but the keyboard that adds Hebrew letters was $10 cheaper. I figure the lettering doesn't hurt anything so I'd rather save the $10.
If anybody figures out how to simplify the connections, or perhaps someday enable MHL out + USB host with this thing - please post back.
Right now - I spent an additional $6 on dealextreme.com to get a microHDMI (female) to HDMI male adapter, and a micro usb female to male adapter so I can try to use the keyboard.
The result is going to be pretty cluttered, but I figure $50 is cheap for a portable, self powered HDMI monitor that could also power stuff from it's ports.

teshgnex said:
The next two wiring diagrams are what I'd expect to do as i finalize what the connection should/could look like...
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Your drawing No 1 is what I use (see below). No 2 is how it should be indeed (but where is the "modded cable" coming from?). While No 3 will not help you since only the presence of a shortened HDMI-CEC pin (+ opening the display a bit) will power ALL the USB-ports including U1+U2 (that activity mode of the Lapdock is indicated by a small white LED next to the touchpad) - so there is no "pre-power" available. But (again) anything that provides that ground contact on the HDMI-plug will do the trick... I actually have one 90degree HDMI-adapter (don't know how to call it in English), which does exactly that and shortens those pin(s) and simulates to the Lapdock the presence of a device (I assume that is NOT on purpose but it works with a second, identical adapter as well). Don't take me wrong you do not need that one if you conect a device (any) directly to the microHDMI-to-HDMI adapter but it is needed when you use HDMI extension cables (etc.) that do not pass all wires to the HDMI device.
I attached some pics how I wire that thing. Pic 1: the micro HDMI plug on the Lapdock is turned by me by 180deg just to make a bit more room for the microHDMI(fem)toHDMI(male)-adapter. You may directly attach the dongle to it (it is relatively stable and easy to carry around - pic 2). That's what one could call "entertainment mode" since you may want to watch videos etc. this way. But than you have not enough space for the microUSB-cable for kb/mouse. That is what I use the 90deg-adapter for. This adapter alone signals already the Lapdock to power up (no other HDMI-cable or adapter I own does this). Back to pic 1: The microUSB(fem)-to-microUSB(male)-cable has the red 5V wire cut. The microUSB-to-USB + USB-microUSB-OTG(!) adapter is there only to signal the OTG-host mode for the S3. The stuff on the right are things you may use on the free USB-port.
That strange device with the mobile speaker attached to its headphone jack has to be explained: it is a (5 Euro) "USB sound card". That is a bit odd... the Lapdock has stereo speakers which are working well (but not great) and the audio-output via HDMI(cast) to the Lapdock works perfectly (sound is ok and in sync when watching videos & you can control volume etc. from the S3 or the Lapdock keyboard) but the allshare cast SW on the S3 does not allow you to plug in a headphone or connect a bluetooth audio-device to the S3 for output of the video(!)-sound. You can use headphones for mp3-player music while using an HDMI display etc. but when you switch on a video you have to remove headphones otherwise the allshare connection stops. There might be two reasons 1: HDCP, 2: there is a small lag in video display from the wireless transfer protocol and the audio stream is equally lagged on purpose to be well in sync with the video stream. You may want to bypass that artificial restriction because the Lapdock has NO headphone jack ... and you can by using such a "soundcard" which is fully supported by the S3 but the sound is then indeed a bit "in advance" of the video stream.
Less exotic devices you can attach are external disks/pen drives or even game controllers (all of them work)... Pic 3 shows you how I wire it for "productivity mode"

P0ll0L0c0 said:
This info is much appreciated. I took the dive and ordered a lapdock from bensoutlet.com for $50 to play with.
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Thank you. 50$ ! When they are as cheap go and get some (or better get many)! The Lapdock is really, really useful and works with many devices.
I originally bought it for the Raspberry Pi but I use it as well with an Archos A80G9 android tablet (not so often since the tablet is big enough anyhow) which has seperated (mini)HDMI and USB-OTG connectors (as it should have been done for all mobile devices including the S3) and used it for my "old" Nokia N8 (miniHDMI as well). In that case USB-OTG does not work since the N8 does not support USB hubs but you can chrge it and watch movies on the Lapdock display with it (in the train ...). The RasPi is powered via the same cable that is used for kb/mouse. In that cable I did obviously not cut the 5V wire. The power the Lapdock provides this way is sufficient to operate the RasPi (+ wifi dongle) ... about 1A is needed for that. So it should be possible to use that power via that OTG microUSB port for the S3 as well ...

What abot the EDD-S20E dock won´t that work with the lapdock ???
Problem is the dock is useless for my next device in 2 - 3 Years....
The allshare cast dongle might stay usefull even with the next gen of android phones....

smart dock

hi,
could be nice to see if the smart dock (the one with HDMI port, 3 usb ports, etc) manufactured for the galaxy note 2, will be compatible with the tablet note 10.1 2014 edition.
It seems to work on the new note 3 and just wondering if might be the case for the tablet as well. I see that the new tablet has a usb port that looks like the one in the note 3 (even thogh the latter mounts a usb 3 and the tablet a usb 2 as far as I know)
Regards

luigi37 said:
hi,
could be nice to see if the smart dock (the one with HDMI port, 3 usb ports, etc) manufactured for the galaxy note 2, will be compatible with the tablet note 10.1 2014 edition.
It seems to work on the new note 3 and just wondering if might be the case for the tablet as well. I see that the new tablet has a usb port that looks like the one in the note 3 (even thogh the latter mounts a usb 3 and the tablet a usb 2 as far as I know)
Regards
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I second this, the dock looks great for use with the tablet. If it works of course.

I have
<samsungs site>us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
this(sorry can't create links yet) dock. If this is the one you're referencing, it works awesome with my S4... but... doesn't work with the note 10.1 2014 I have. Doesn't even recognize it as a source of power. So the dock appears to be useless.

Saik0Shinigami said:
I have
<samsungs site>us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
this(sorry can't create links yet) dock. If this is the one you're referencing, it works awesome with my S4... but... doesn't work with the note 10.1 2014 I have. Doesn't even recognize it as a source of power. So the dock appears to be useless.
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Yes thats the one, its a shame though that it does not work. One of those could turn the tab into a small computer, for when you travel etc.

try it with original power adapter from note 10.1 2014
Hi guys,
Did you try the Multimedia dock powered by the AC USB charging adapter which came with the Note 2014?

wugga said:
Hi guys,
Did you try the Multimedia dock powered by the AC USB charging adapter which came with the Note 2014?
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Yes, I have tried it with original AC adapter and with Note 10.1 AC adapter - nothing happened in both cases - the dock just doesn't do anything with Note 10, it does work just fine with Note 2.
It's funny though, as I do have another adapter, it's called HDMI Connection kit (http://shop.brando.com/HDTV-Adapter-and-OTG-Card-Reader_p09720c1451d001.html), and that one does work, I can connect USB device, SD card and HDMI out works too.
I haven't yet tried USB and HDMI at the same time - I'll do it today.

alese said:
Yes, I have tried it with original AC adapter and with Note 10.1 AC adapter - nothing happened in both cases - the dock just doesn't do anything with Note 10, it does work just fine with Note 2.
It's funny though, as I do have another adapter, it's called HDMI Connection kit (http://shop.brando.com/HDTV-Adapter-and-OTG-Card-Reader_p09720c1451d001.html), and that one does work, I can connect USB device, SD card and HDMI out works too.
I haven't yet tried USB and HDMI at the same time - I'll do it today.
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Interesting! Please let us know if it works. HDMI + USB would be perfect. Could you also try charging it through micro-USB at the same time?

ap27 said:
Interesting! Please let us know if it works. HDMI + USB would be perfect. Could you also try charging it through micro-USB at the same time?
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Well I have done some tests and it works (mostly).
I'm typing this reply on USB keyboard connected to generic USB HUB, that has also connected USB mouse and an USB flash drive.
Hub is connected to the USB port on the adapter.
I have also HDMI cable connected to the adapter and the whole thing is connected via HDMI2VGA converter to 17" flat screen. Picture is streched but everything works.
The "mostly" part is because the "connection" to USB devices is a bit unstable - sometimes they disconnect and reconnect and especially because you can't charge the tablet at the same time whatever charger I connect it just doesnt charge the device.
I'm guessing Samsung either screwed something or intentionally changed on connection port or in software compared to S3/4 and Note 2/3...

Thats good to know, thanks! I'm not too worried about the charging part since its a tablet. I hope the HDMI can actually output 1080p 30Hz video

Can we have a link for this smart dock please ?

I wonder if this one may work...?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0076Z3FU...F8&colid=3Q1HJXOWAXE7M&coliid=I1WUSECYT42V5J
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luigi37 said:
hi,
could be nice to see if the smart dock (the one with HDMI port, 3 usb ports, etc) manufactured for the galaxy note 2, will be compatible with the tablet note 10.1 2014 edition.
It seems to work on the new note 3 and just wondering if might be the case for the tablet as well. I see that the new tablet has a usb port that looks like the one in the note 3 (even thogh the latter mounts a usb 3 and the tablet a usb 2 as far as I know)
Regards
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I confirm, this dock doesn't work with galaxy note 10.1 2014. It doesn't make anything, no charge, no USB, no HDMI... But it works perfectly with the note 2...

karlichon said:
I confirm, this dock doesn't work with galaxy note 10.1 2014. It doesn't make anything, no charge, no USB, no HDMI... But it works perfectly with the note 2...
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....and the Note 3

I would really like charging and HDMI at the same time. Any products verified to do this?
Does anyone have any idea's why the dock doesn't work? Anyone willing to try to force it to work either through an app or even a kernel mod? I think this warrants further investigation.

Does anyone know if the DA-E570 wireless dual dock works with the G-Note 10.1 2014.
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Does anyone know if the DA-E570 wireless dual dock works with the G-Note 10.1 2014.
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error

USB sense resistors
The reason why the smart dock does not work on the Note 10.1 2014 is that in different micro USB accessories there are different resistors between pin 4 and 5 in the micro USB connector. The manufacturers can make device specific accessories by making the Android device react on a specific resistor in its accessory. There are other xda-developer threads discussing this, and trying to sort out how to e.g. compose smart docks providing charging to the Android device and using its USB host capabilities to connect USB devices.
One Samsung smart dock seems to have a 40.2 kOhm resistor and work on some Galaxys. But not on Note 10.1 2014.
I have tried all resistor values that are documented to be able to possibly have something to do with dock mode and OTG mode, but the Note 10.1 2014 does not react on any of them except on 40.2 k Ohm. On all other values it just charges and does not accept to use connected USB devices.
Only 40.2 k Ohm shows a slight difference. It shows a red cross over the chargng icon, indicating that it charges slower. But USB to a keyboard does not work.
Only 0 Ohm between pin 4 and 5 causes OTG mode so that USB data devices can be used. But then no charging is accepted by the Note 2014.
Look for xda-developer areas titled "fun with resistors" and "using OTG mode and charging at the same time" for a lot of information but no solution for the Note 10.1 2014.
I have tried the following resistor values:
28.7 k, 34 k, 40.2 k, 49.9 k, 64.9 k, 80.7 k, 100 k, 102 k, 124 k, 200 k, 365 k and 619 k Ohm.
I now just hope that Samsung has some yet unrevealed way to tell the Note 2014 that a new type of smart dock is attached, and that it will be launched soon.
I can imagine one reason for not making the earlier smart dock work with the Note 2014. The Note 2014 uses 5.3 V for charging to make charging more rapid, and Samsung might think it is not really in compliance with the USB specifications to distribute that as well to other USB devices. Just a guess...

Hi All, I'm about to get one of these as the screen of my S4 is broken and Samsung asks too much money to fix it Any developments on getting it to work with Note 10.1 2014?

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Hi All, I'm about to get one of these as the screen of my S4 is broken and Samsung asks too much money to fix it Any developments on getting it to work with Note 10.1 2014?
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This is the only thing stopping me from buying the Note, has anyone found a smart docking station that charges at the same time?

alese said:
Well I have done some tests and it works (mostly).
I'm typing this reply on USB keyboard connected to generic USB HUB, that has also connected USB mouse and an USB flash drive.
Hub is connected to the USB port on the adapter.
I have also HDMI cable connected to the adapter and the whole thing is connected via HDMI2VGA converter to 17" flat screen. Picture is streched but everything works.
The "mostly" part is because the "connection" to USB devices is a bit unstable - sometimes they disconnect and reconnect and especially because you can't charge the tablet at the same time whatever charger I connect it just doesnt charge the device.
I'm guessing Samsung either screwed something or intentionally changed on connection port or in software compared to S3/4 and Note 2/3...
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Does it work to charge when you use HDMI/flash drive?
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Connecting USB storage Drive and HDMI out

Hi I just recently purchased the Samsung galaxy tab s 8.4. What I am wondering is how can I connect a full size usb flash drive? Can I buy any old cheap usb to micro usb adapter and it should work? Or do I need some sort of special type.
I was also wondering how I can get video out onto a TV through the HDMI port. Will any micro HDMI to full HDMI work? Or do I need a specific special type.
Thanks in advance for any help or input related to this.

Buy a media dock to use both mhl and otg simultaneously or an otg adapter for flash drives and a Samsung specific mhl/HDMI cable for video out.
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I've been using one like this...
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Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5
All working with HDMI out ... card reader ... USB to 1 Terabyte Hard drive ... USB to Sony DualShock gamepad ... USB Mouse ... USB keyboard ... (and various combinations of these components plugged in and working simultaneously)

siralsmooth said:
Buy a media dock to use both mhl and otg simultaneously or an otg adapter for flash drives and a Samsung specific mhl/HDMI cable for video out.
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Im sorry but i don't exactly know what your talking about when you say media dock.
Can I buy any micro USB to HDMI adapter and a micro USB to USB adapter Or do I need specific cables straight from samsung? Theres several of these cables being sold at my local NCIX computer store. This forum will not allow me to post the links however.

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b00mb00mchuck said:
I've been using one like this...
Samsung Galaxy S4
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5
All working with HDMI out ... card reader ... USB to 1 Terabyte Hard drive ... USB to Sony DualShock gamepad ... USB Mouse ... USB keyboard ... (and various combinations of these components plugged in and working simultaneously)
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Thats exactly what im looking for. How much does that run? Do you have a link for it?

xmilar said:
Thats exactly what im looking for. How much does that run? Do you have a link for it?
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Got mine off eBay....
eBay LINK ... MHL OTG Hub
Link to full eBay search... (choices bro)
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I also use one like this at work... (don't need MHL there)
eBay link ... OTG Hub
It has 3 USB ports and several different card readers... I can run that with a 1 Terabyte Hard drive, 256GB Flash Drive , 128GB micro SD card , wireless keyboard and mouse... all running off that hub simultaneously.... all working as they should.
Pro Tip... Always use the MHL/OTG Power input when running powered devices... DON'T try to power from your tablet...
The first item I listed in this post (MHL OTG Hub) has a micro USB port... plug your Samsung charger in there before plugging in any other devices and before plugging into your tablet
The second item has its own dedicated power cord supplied with the device which can also be plugged into your Sammy charger to run the power side of the hub...
Failure to do this can burn out the 5 volt rail on your tablet... you will also notice all sorts of problems with devices not being recognized by the tablet when external power is not plugged into the proper port on the hub.
Many of these "hubs" come from China with sketchy instructions... they try but it gets lost in translation I suppose.
Here's what I learned over time...
when using a hard drive or wireless keyboard with a hub
plug in your external power to the hub first
then plug in your hard drive or wireless keyboard/mouse dongle
then plug the hub into the tablet
If you do things in the wrong order the tablet doesn't recognize the drive or device
Those steps are not necessary for memory cards and flash drives.

b00mb00mchuck said:
Got mine off eBay....
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This post helped me a lot man I really appreciate it. I have been driving myself crazy trying to figure out what to buy what works etc. I just dont know which ones will work for the tab S considering it doesnt specifically say the Tab S is supported..
All im really looking to do is stream videos to my tv when I travel and connect a standard size usb flash drive. Thanks again ill probably just order that 1st one you linked me to because you say it works fine.
On a side note it kinda sucks how I cant even quote your post and reply without getting this message
"To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages. After approximately 10 posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thank you for understanding!"

Glad to help
That quote thing will go away soon enough... XDA's way of discouraging crap posters from constantly bombing the forum
(Cool story)
Brought my Note 3 to a work function in Honolulu... used that MHL OTG Hub to attach to the flat screen in the conference room and show some pics and videos and web pages for a Heavy Lift Crane presentation... meeting broke up and groups went to other promo areas... some of the geeks mulled around looking at what i had set up and saw me answering emails and posting on a couple forums... then on break i started playing Grand Theft Auto with the Playstation 3 controller... that started a bunch of questions ... i answered what i could ... one dude says ... "damn... i wanna punch my iPhone right in the friggin face right now"
:good:

b00mb00mchuck said:
Glad to help
That quote thing will go away soon enough... XDA's way of discouraging crap posters from constantly bombing the forum
(Cool story)
Brought my Note 3 to a work function in Honolulu... used that MHL OTG Hub to attach to the flat screen in the conference room and show some pics and videos and web pages for a Heavy Lift Crane presentation... meeting broke up and groups went to other promo areas... some of the geeks mulled around looking at what i had set up and saw me answering emails and posting on a couple forums... then on break i started playing Grand Theft Auto with the Playstation 3 controller... that started a bunch of questions ... i answered what i could ... one dude says ... "damn... i wanna punch my iPhone right in the friggin face right now"
:good:
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Thats awesome its definitely a handy cord to have.
I was wondering if you know should pretty much any mhl otg hub work with the Tab S? There is several listed on eBay with various prices. Are all of them made equal? or is it possible that certain ones wont work. Ill probably just order the one you linked because you have confirmed it does in fact work with the Tab S even though its not listed as a compatible device.

xmilar said:
Thats awesome its definitely a handy cord to have.
I was wondering if you know should pretty much any mhl otg hub work with the Tab S? There is several listed on eBay with various prices. Are all of them made equal? or is it possible that certain ones wont work. Ill probably just order the one you linked because you have confirmed it does in fact work with the Tab S even though its not listed as a compatible device.
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Works... i used it just a couple hours ago to dump movie downloads onto my hard drive and clear up memory...
But now that you mention it... i haven't tried the MHL function to HDMI with the Tab S yet because i have chromecast now and I'll mostly stream from the hard drive right through to the chromecast.... i can test that tomorrow if you want a rock solid answer before you buy... i have a half day on the crane tomorrow so it would be after 12:00pm EST when i get home and try plugging it all in.

Any of the newer Samsung devices from the s2/note2 and up should have the dual functionality USB port. You can, with a good eye, and good lighting, look at the port and see the 2nd row of pins. If it has/supports mhl out, it will do simultaneous otg as well. This is exclusive to Samsung devices.
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b00mb00mchuck said:
Works... i used it just a couple hours ago to dump movie downloads onto my hard drive and clear up memory...
But now that you mention it... i haven't tried the MHL function to HDMI with the Tab S yet because i have chromecast now and I'll mostly stream from the hard drive right through to the chromecast.... i can test that tomorrow if you want a rock solid answer before you buy... i have a half day on the crane tomorrow so it would be after 12:00pm EST when i get home and try plugging it all in.
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Ya that would be great if you could thanks a lot i really appreciate it.

xmilar said:
Ya that would be great if you could thanks a lot i really appreciate it.
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There ya go bro... hooked up with MHL Hub to HDMI showing screen mirror of this thread... everything works like it should.

b00mb00mchuck said:
There ya go bro... hooked up with MHL Hub to HDMI showing screen mirror of this thread... everything works like it should.
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Looks good man thanks a lot for that. Theres a few other ones on Amazon for cheaper that might work but I think ill just stick with this one even though ill pay a few extra bucks.:good:

b00mb00mchuck said:
There ya go bro... hooked up with MHL Hub to HDMI showing screen mirror of this thread... everything works like it should.
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Hey man I just received my adapter in the mail today but the HDMI out is not working do you have any mtips on how to get it to work? I connect my power source first and then connect my HDMI but still nothing works. I bought the one you mentioned but its a bit different from what you have pictured. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Ok I finally got it working. I had to connect my device to it first before the power source or it wouldn't work. I know you mentioned this can be hard on the battery but its the only way I got it working.
I connect my power source after the HDMI out is up and running but my battery seems to still be draining fairly quick. Does that mean the outside power source is doing nothing? Am I doing harm to my tablets battery?

hello, im thinking about buy one of these, my question is, does that white cable charge the device?
cause i want to charge the device while using this function, can anyone confirm this, and in case it doesnt charge, can we mod it to do it