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Does the headphone jack makes hissing/ static noise?

Coming from Lenovo p2 which has similar designs ( both are from lemoto and the headphone jack and antenna seems to be in similar position). Lenovo p2 has this annoying static noise while using in-ear headphone, yes I say in-ear headphone because it won't happen on earbuds, only iems. I guess that's because earbuds have higher impedance? It's extremely audible when playing music at low volume. Anyway back to my original question, does such issue exists on moto z play? I did some Google there seems to be people complaining about this but I want confirmation from you guys. Try listening to some music at low volume using IEM and tell me if there is any hissing noise please. Thanks in advance

Yes it does - more so if you enable the stock equalizer. It is quite obvious if you listen to audio book or speeches in low volume.
Nougat update does have minimized it. Listening to music in low volume is cleaner.
However - the sound signature thro' audio jack is excellent - deep n solid feel to it

No static on any of my IEMs at volume steps 0,1 and 2 playing through Apple Music and PowerAmp.

Sam_kaks said:
Yes it does - more so if you enable the stock equalizer. It is quite obvious if you listen to audio book or speeches in low volume.
Nougat update does have minimized it. Listening to music in low volume is cleaner.
However - the sound signature thro' audio jack is excellent - deep n solid feel to it
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They really need to fix this stupid design flaw. Doesn't this bother you? I think I need to invest in a Bluetooth headphone

Mine dose this too really annoying

Yes good decision. I almost always use my jaybird X3 to do away with that irritant.

No it doesn't. I have never experienced any hissing/static with my earphone. soundmagic e50.

vietkao said:
No it doesn't. I have never experienced any hissing/static with my earphone. soundmagic e50.
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Yea e50 has high impedance that's why, try an earphone with lower impedance

linkzex said:
Yea e50 has high impedance that's why, try an earphone with lower impedance
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How low?

uberano26 said:
How low?
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It happens to my 16ohm IEM, 16ohm belongs to the majority of IEM you should be able to find one with 16ohm easily

linkzex said:
It happens to my 16ohm IEM, 16ohm belongs to the majority of IEM you should be able to find one with 16ohm easily
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Again no static on any of my IEMs with an Impedance range from of 16 to 32Ω. The only little static i get is when i initially plug them in.

Yes you may get hiss with low ohm headphones, use better headphones.

Sam_kaks said:
Yes it does - more so if you enable the stock equalizer. It is quite obvious if you listen to audio book or speeches in low volume.
Nougat update does have minimized it. Listening to music in low volume is cleaner.
However - the sound signature thro' audio jack is excellent - deep n solid feel to it
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Hey I have a favor to ask you can you try using over ear headphone and see if there is hiss? Tell me the headphone nameif you do so

linkzex said:
Hey I have a favor to ask you can you try using over ear headphone and see if there is hiss? Tell me the headphone nameif you do so
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These are my work arounds:
1. Installed Poweramp app
2. I use Poweramp in-built equalizer
3. I don't use default equalizer while using headphones.
My headphones:
1. audio technica ath-m50x (headphones)
2. shure se 215 (in ear type)
3. jaybird X3 ( blue tooth)
If you root it (I have not rooted this moto) Arise viper4A is an excellent option.
Please note the sound signature and audio output via headphone jack is excellent. It can even drive audio technica ath-m50x, which has heavy drivers with ease. If you don't use the system equalizer, post nougat update the hiss is almost not there.
This phone is an excellent value for money. I am using it for more than 6 month. It has a heft to it but feels solid in-hand. Buttery smooth, insane battery and zero heating (except while charging). I am very happy!

Jimi Mack said:
Yes you may get hiss with low ohm headphones, use better headphones.
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Sam_kaks said:
These are my work arounds:
1. Installed Poweramp app
2. I use Poweramp in-built equalizer
3. I don't use default equalizer while using headphones.
My headphones:
1. audio technica ath-m50x (headphones)
2. shure se 215 (in ear type)
3. jaybird X3 ( blue tooth)
If you root it (I have not rooted this moto) Arise viper4A is an excellent option.
Please note the sound signature and audio output via headphone jack is excellent. It can even drive audio technica ath-m50x, which has heavy drivers with ease. If you don't use the system equalizer, post nougat update the hiss is almost not there.
This phone is an excellent value for money. I am using it for more than 6 month. It has a heft to it but feels solid in-hand. Buttery smooth, insane battery and zero heating (except while charging). I am very happy!
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Huh why does equalizer matters... are you saying with ath m50 there is still hiss?

Jimi Mack said:
Yes you may get hiss with low ohm headphones, use better headphones.
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How about with 18 ohm impedance...sennheiser urbanite on ear

Best earphone to utilize the quad dac!

I found some crazy earphone
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ance-320-ohms-earbud/1924356_32302987270.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ohms-earbud-earphone/1924356_32411358569.html
I know they are ugly but they are review well in head-fi.org.

Dont waste your money, buy soundmagic e10.
You can read reviews, i did it and it is best one i have had ever , better than bose,denon....
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ferdyconde said:
Dont waste your money, buy soundmagic e10.
You can read reviews, i did it and it is best one i have had ever , better than bose,denon....
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But it won't trigger the quad dac.Because it has 46ohms similar my apple earpod.Only 50+impedance will trigger the quad dac.
Btw Soundmagic e50 has 50-51ohms.

You try it and later decide. Another one that people say good things is Fiio
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sagor1 said:
But it won't trigger the quad dac.Because it has 46ohms similar my apple earpod.Only 50+impedance will trigger the quad dac.
Btw Soundmagic e50 has 50-51ohms.
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Will Creative Aurvana Live! work well with DAC on this phone?
https://en.creative.com/p/headphones-headsets/aurvana-live
https://www.head-fi.org/f/showcase/creative-aurvana-live-headphones.6798/
Maybe it would be good thread to write how to determine if headphones are appropriate for that phone?
I'm waiting for my new LG G6 and I'm wondering if I will need to change my old headphones...
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sojkin said:
Will Creative Aurvana Live! work well with DAC on this phone?
https://en.creative.com/p/headphones-headsets/aurvana-live
https://www.head-fi.org/f/showcase/creative-aurvana-live-headphones.6798/
Maybe it would be good thread to write how to determine if headphones are appropriate for that phone?
I'm waiting for my new LG G6 and I'm wondering if I will need to change my old headphones...
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I guess not.Because it has only 32ohm.
You can try a high impedance adapter from ebay 7-8$ with your current headphone.
Just look for the headphone impedance,which has minimum 50ohm.
Note-I am not a sound specialist, i just get some idea after googling.

Soundmagic E50C-51 ohms
Soundmagic E80C-64ohms
For reference Sound magic is an award winning company for providing best bang for buck quality

My Sennheiser Momentum 2 are 18 Ω and they trigger the quad-DAC.

I have problem with choosing Senheiser Momentum in ear G or RHA MA750i. Somebody have some recommendations?
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There is a simple way to activate the sabre amplifier.
Get a 3.5mm male to female adapter. Connect to lg g6 . it will activate external adapter connected.
Then plug in your standard <50ohm headphones.
Enjoy.

you can try to apply for this|
https://www.lgrebates.com/LG-Entertainment-bundle

Well i Have EC10's with 46 Ohm. They only trigger External mode with the included Y-Adapter. The Earphones sound superb on pretty much every Device except the G6. The Quad DAC cancels out the Dynamics and Bass. If you like neutral analytic sound you will be very satisfied. If you want atmospheric, open wide airy Sound, you will be dissapointed a lot. The DAC will go into HiFi mode when using the E50s or E80s. But the Sound signature wont improve, your AMP will just be driven harder which equals in louder sound. Thats basically the whole point of the HiFi mode. If you use Headphones with 250 Ohms it would be extremely quiet in Normal Audio mode, so a better solution is to give this privilege to the higher Ohm headphones and not drive the AMP with full power when something with low resistance is plugged in. This is needed to prevent your headphones from taking damage, improvide battery life (A AMP can draw more power then your CPU). And to guarantee a clear sound playback because lower end Headphones will distort to that point that everything is just buzzing if you drive them with a lot of power.
I will try OneMore E1001 Ref Headphones and see if the sound improves but i doubt that because my USB DAC (70-200$) sounds miles better with the same EC10s that i use with my G6.

All of my earphones trigger the DAC even cheap ones, I have however purchased some Soundmagic E80's and all I can say is WOW, easily the best earphones I have ever used and highly recommended. Purchased refurbished (but appear to be new and unused customer return) on eBay for £35 with three sets of Comply tips thrown in http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321924939199

I have the Sony mdr-100aap, with IMPEDANCE (OHM)
24 Ω at 1 kHz. Should it trigger the dac? They are supposed to be HiFi compatible. I only see normal headphones when plugged.

If all you are looking at is impedance rating to trigger the amp, you are doing it wrong. Find the headphone that sounds best to you *regardless* of impedance, and let the phone do its job.
My vote is for the Campfire Audio Nova or Dorado.

sagor1 said:
I found some crazy earphone
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ance-320-ohms-earbud/1924356_32302987270.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ohms-earbud-earphone/1924356_32411358569.html
I know they are ugly but they are review well in head-fi.org.
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That website has a popup that I can't get around on my phone, and I refuse to click it. Bull**** site. Search for venture electronics instead.
I did see they're the VE Zen earbuds briefly, I heard they're like the VE Monk with bass. That is a REALLY good thing. I can't justify the $150 though many can and likely should. The Monks are really good.

Guys, if you're looking for clear and precise sound, I strongly recommend you to look at the balanced armature headphones. Instead of 1 dynamic driver which covers the entire frequency range they have 1,2,3... practically up to as many as you wish drivers each for a specific frequency segment. A lot of manufacturers make it, such as Sony, Sure, Audio Technica, RHA, Vsonic, Dunu. I'm pretty happy with my Sony XBA-A2 headphones which has always sounded good with any source and with LG G6 their potential is being even more fully unlocked

dannejanne said:
My Sennheiser Momentum 2 are 18 Ω and they trigger the quad-DAC.
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How ? Does it show high impedance mode in DAC settings ?

Guys realy ?Many same question.
Ok then last time.
Minimum OHM 50 ..This working minimum(QDAC) (OR trick search v10 or v20 high gain trick(need special cables)
So 18 ,24 ,33 ,16 NOT trigger..50+?Yes!
But the headphone not all...Need music player .HD music supported professional music palyer: Poweramp(need setup) usb audiplayer pro(need setup) or totaly free HibyMusic player(need setup)
And last...Good quality music(recomendent 24bit 96Khz minumum)Then happaning the magic!

Elnrik said:
If all you are looking at is impedance rating to trigger the amp, you are doing it wrong. Find the headphone that sounds best to you *regardless* of impedance, and let the phone do its job.
My vote is for the Campfire Audio Nova or Dorado.
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Absolutely correct...
Sound quality is subjective... People should stop worrying about the amount of impedance... And look for the headphones they like...
---------- Post added at 07:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:55 AM ----------
I have purchased Sound Magic E80C... Will share my observations, once I test them with my new LG G6 and also with other mobiles/DACs...

High impedance earphones.

Suggest me a good in-ear earphones under $100 with high impedance. I want to get rid of this horrible hissing noise.

This has nothing to do with impedance. I have in-ear headphones with 16 Ohm impedance (JBL T110) and there's noise as well. But I have on-ear headphones (Connect IT CI-235) and there's no noise at all. The issue is how much voltage can the headphones take. So I would recommend you to get some on-ear ones and if they're above 20 dollars they should do the job.

ProchyGaming said:
This has nothing to do with impedance. I have in-ear headphones with 16 Ohm impedance (JBL T110) and there's noise as well. But I have on-ear headphones (Connect IT CI-235) and there's no noise at all. The issue is how much voltage can the headphones take. So I would recommend you to get some on-ear ones and if they're above 20 dollars they should do the job.
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Someone said, we need to buy earphones with impedance of 32 Ohm or more. So when you buy better check impedance, it should be more than 32 Ohms.

Ritik99 said:
Someone said, we need to buy earphones with impedance of 32 Ohm or more. So when you buy better check impedance, it should be more than 32 Ohms.
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That is odd then. As I've said I have 16 Ohms and I don't have any noise at all. Well better take the extra precaution if your budget is 100 dollars

ProchyGaming said:
This has nothing to do with impedance. I have in-ear headphones with 16 Ohm impedance (JBL T110) and there's noise as well. But I have on-ear headphones (Connect IT CI-235) and there's no noise at all. The issue is how much voltage can the headphones take. So I would recommend you to get some on-ear ones and if they're above 20 dollars they should do the job.
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Thank you for the advice but imho, on-ear headphones are not that mobile.

ProchyGaming said:
That is odd then. As I've said I have 16 Ohms and I don't have any noise at all. Well better take the extra precaution if your budget is 100 dollars
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Actually I do have 16ohm impedance earphone. Sony EX-15AP. Hissing is very much audible.

It's really weird, I have never heard this hissing.
I even just tried a pair of free ones I was given free on a sightseeing bus, quality is rubbish but still no hissing, I get a crackle if I twist the jack but that's it.

Problem is combination of low impedance and high sensitivity - which is pretty much case for majority of IEMs. Bigger headphones are often less sensitive so they do not tend to have the hissing issue. For 100usd, I would suggest buying any headphones you like + iEMatch impedance adapter (https://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-iematch/) - particularly if you need mic/buttons.
Edit: per iEmatch manual, mic/buttons on headphones will be disconnected by this adapter, so better verify with Ifi company before purchase.
Budget version would be ChiFi headphones (KZ, Senfer, ..) + cheap impedance adapter, but beware that this combination doesn't allow usage of cable with mic/buttons. I am quite happy with the budget solution..

Just flash the hissing noise fix and you can use any earphones

JakobSWE said:
Just flash the hissing noise fix and you can use any earphones
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What's that? There was one "fix" flying around few months ago, but it did absolutely nothing (modified some parameters in mixer path xml file with no effect whatsoever). I would love to have something which actually works..

_mysiak_ said:
What's that? There was one "fix" flying around few months ago, but it did absolutely nothing (modified some parameters in mixer path xml file with no effect whatsoever). I would love to have something which actually works..
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That's actually what the "fix" does. It's a hardware issue so no soft fix

_mysiak_ said:
What's that? There was one "fix" flying around few months ago, but it did absolutely nothing (modified some parameters in mixer path xml file with no effect whatsoever). I would love to have something which actually works..
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There's a magisk module you can flash here in the forums. Om My phone it removes almost all hissing :good:

JakobSWE said:
There's a magisk module you can flash here in the forums. Om My phone it removes almost all hissing :good:
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Link please? I saw and tried only one and that was useless - I even tried to decrease the headphones gain in the xml file by ~99% and it didn't do anything.

_mysiak_ said:
Link please? I saw and tried only one and that was useless - I even tried to decrease the headphones gain in the xml file by ~99% and it didn't do anything.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/themes/mod-xiaomi-mi-a1-soundmod-dualspeaker-t3741675
I'm using the nougat version on flyme os. But I've tried om stock Oreo too and it removes almost all hissing for me. Go for the magisk version and be sure to get the right version.

JakobSWE said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/themes/mod-xiaomi-mi-a1-soundmod-dualspeaker-t3741675
I'm using the nougat version on flyme os. But I've tried om stock Oreo too and it removes almost all hissing for me. Go for the magisk version and be sure to get the right version.
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Unfortunately I hear absolutely no difference in the hissing or overal volume of headphones. I'd say it's only a placebo "fix".. On the other hand, decreasing the headphones gain via custom kernel masks the hissing quite effectively - hissing is still the same, but as you have to turn up the volume, Signal To Noise ratio increases as well and you can't hear the noise over music. Quiet songs/passages are still bad though.

arvind7955 said:
Thank you for the advice but imho, on-ear headphones are not that mobile.
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iam using ATH-M50X everywhere
But Otherwise i cant use In Ear with gum and so iam on the way to build my own In Ear Monitors :fingers-crossed:

_mysiak_ said:
Problem is combination of low impedance and high sensitivity - which is pretty much case for majority of IEMs. Bigger headphones are often less sensitive so they do not tend to have the hissing issue. For 100usd, I would suggest buying any headphones you like + iEMatch impedance adapter (https://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-iematch/) - particularly if you need mic/buttons.
Budget version would be ChiFi headphones (KZ, Senfer, ..) + cheap impedance adapter, but beware that this combination doesn't allow usage of cable with mic/buttons. I am quite happy with the budget solution..
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I got interested on this. I looked for some cheap ones but there is something i dont get, there are 30, 70 or 150 ohms so i wonder which one i have to pick. And some of those even say that they dont work on mobile phones so... I get even more confused.
And want to know if you found some cheap ones with the mic/buttons function

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Unfortunately I hear absolutely no difference in the hissing or overal volume of headphones. I'd say it's only a placebo "fix".. On the other hand, decreasing the headphones gain via custom kernel masks the hissing quite effectively - hissing is still the same, but as you have to turn up the volume, Signal To Noise ratio increases as well and you can't hear the noise over music. Quiet songs/passages are still bad though.
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I guess it only changes the gain or amplifiction. But my piston 3 almost gets no hiss with that fix. Super noisy without.

Arthur King said:
I got interested on this. I looked for some cheap ones but there is something i dont get, there are 30, 70 or 150 ohms so i wonder which one i have to pick. And some of those even say that they dont work on mobile phones so... I get even more confused.
And want to know if you found some cheap ones with the mic/buttons function
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70 ohm should be fine, it will remove pretty much all the hissing and keeps overal volume high enough. Or there is an even cheaper and more versatile alternative - cable with analogue volume control (https://www.ebay.com/itm/131489435905). By turning the volume down, you effectively increase the impedance and hissing disappears. And you can fine tune it to each headphone. Though still no mic/button control.. I have similar one with button and mic on the cable and it makes wonders, but I purchased it years ago and can't find it anymore. Try to look for one in your favorite shops, you might have more luck.
Edit: this one http://www.dx.com/p/3-5mm-male-to-f...one-volume-control-for-cell-phone-84cm-126278
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I guess it only changes the gain or amplifiction. But my piston 3 almost gets no hiss with that fix. Super noisy without.
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No idea what it does, on my phone nothing audible. From the description it should do what custom kernel with sound control does - only mask hissing.

Just get a pair of Apple EarPods. They have an impedance of around 40-45 ohms and work great.

sound quality

Hi, I just got my phone, and it has low sound when playing media and with distortion, could it be that my unit is faulty?

Sound quality through headphone jack is good to me, its stereo speaker is fine. I had a lenovo vibe x3 which has same DAC chip as LG V10 and i think mate 20 sounds better. And louder too. But my mate 20 has yellow tint issue on half bottom display, like top is cold but bottom has warm color. How about yours?

Speaker is trash, compare to Mate 9 and Mate 10.

Can anyone tell me what sound quality is like out of the speakers. Don't mean headphone jack just the speakers themselves???
Thanks

zaqwdcvfr said:
Sound quality through headphone jack is good to me, its stereo speaker is fine. I had a lenovo vibe x3 which has same DAC chip as LG V10 and i think mate 20 sounds better. And louder too. But my mate 20 has yellow tint issue on half bottom display, like top is cold but bottom has warm color. How about yours?
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I now have Lenovo Vibe X3 and I'm thinking about buying Huawei Mate 20 because of its screen and battery. But sound quality... Are you kidding??? Mate cannot sound better just because Lenovo Vibe X3 has a dedicated sound guts (one of the best implementations of mobile DAC and a couple of amplifiers) whereas Huawei - not. There are sound labs test which tested Huawei. And it's not a musicphone. FOR SURE...

listening in Neutron app (both phone support hires) with same headphone (Fiio F9 pro) gave me that personal opinion, yeah im not kidding when it comes to music. gsm tested same dac for different result (kirin 970 and 980 using same dac) and what make that mate 20 sound lab test result was bad for listening to music. at the time i bought mate 20, i considered note 8 exynos version also, had brought an earphone to test both and bought my first huawei in the end.

Que DAC de audio tiene el mate 20? Es "HD"?

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Que DAC de audio tiene el mate 20? Es "HD"?
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Works in HD mode with good headphones, i dont had problem with sony WH-1000XM3 and poweramp paid and beta version, getting 96khz, 24 bit of output with codec ldac bluetooth, with cable u ll get 192khz

mate 20 speaker sound a bit poor compared to mate 10 or even mate 9 ,

Not a lil bit, really poor compare to Mate 9 and 10

Use this App it's work with me to boost the sound.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodev.volume.booster&hl=en_US

You can not boost the sound because the hardware is trash.

[DISCUSSION] Headphone Jack performance

I wanted to start a thread discussing the performance of the headphone jack. I'm a bit disappointed considering Sony's audiophile history with their walkmans and LDAC codec.
Yes, I'm nit picking about a $13XX dollar phone but for this price, I was expecting a bit more that just average performance.
For comparison I do have a LG V40 with it's quad dac and it powers my audio technicas perfectly fine with High-Impedance mode.
On the MK ii, I don't get the full sound with out an external dac coming into play.
I'd like to ask other MK ii owners if having just a headphone jack is enough to power your earbuds/iems/headphones.
Going to do a bit more in detail research within a couple of days but I think Sony just wanted to slap a headphone jack just to say it has one.
Ps- I'm no audiophile but having a full sound for the headphones I have is a must.

Thank you! This thread is very interesting.
I have reduced hearing and I badly need a smartphone with high-output. My LG V30 with it's QUAD-DAC has no problem giving me enough volume even on my favourite pair Hifiman HE-4xx.
I was hoping that Sony 1 mk2 was an alternative, but maybe not................ ?

R800x_user said:
I wanted to start a thread discussing the performance of the headphone jack. I'm a bit disappointed considering Sony's audiophile history with their walkmans and LDAC codec.
Yes, I'm nit picking about a $13XX dollar phone but for this price, I was expecting a bit more that just average performance.
For comparison I do have a LG V40 with it's quad dac and it powers my audio technicas perfectly fine with High-Impedance mode.
On the MK ii, I don't get the full sound with out an external dac coming into play.
I'd like to ask other MK ii owners if having just a headphone jack is enough to power your earbuds/iems/headphones.
Going to do a bit more in detail research within a couple of days but I think Sony just wanted to slap a headphone jack just to say it has one.
Ps- I'm no audiophile but having a full sound for the headphones I have is a must.
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You may want to make the distinction between headphone jacks that can and cannot drive high impedance headphones as a headphone jack that can't can still be good as in clear, little to no distortion with good response and sound reproduction.
In this case its more like LG's has gone out of their way to include a dac that can power high impedance headphones (which is rare in the first place, in addition to the jack being rare) so if high impedance headphones usage is a top priority, then sticking to LG would be recommended.

I have a Meizu Pro usb dac which has a good reputation. The volume of the Meizu is a bit higher, but the audio quality of the Sony is equal. You just have to increase the volume 2 or 3 notches. The Sony uses the Qualcom dac and excellent Cirrus amplifier chips. I use my Beoplay H6 over the ear headphones for listening. The volume being a bit lower is no problem for me, I still can get serious hearing damage if I want to.
The audio is detailed, excellent channel separation, noise is undetectable.

jwalesh96 said:
You may want to make the distinction between headphone jacks that can and cannot drive high impedance headphones as a headphone jack that can't can still be good as in clear, little to no distortion with good response and sound reproduction.
In this case its more like LG's has gone out of their way to include a dac that can power high impedance headphones (which is rare in the first place, in addition to the jack being rare) so if high impedance headphones usage is a top priority, then sticking to LG would be recommended.
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Sho-Bud said:
I have a Meizu Pro usb dac which has a good reputation. The volume of the Meizu is a bit higher, but the audio quality of the Sony is equal. You just have to increase the volume 2 or 3 notches. The Sony uses the Qualcom dac and excellent Cirrus amplifier chips. I use my Beoplay H4 over the ear headphones for listening. The volume being a bit lower is no problem for me, I still can get serious hearing damage if I want to.
The audio is detailed, excellent channel separation, noise is undetectable.
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Yeah LG has done the headphone jack justice, but I was expecting a bit more out of the mark 2 for it's price point.
Like hi-res audio. I get it's mainly a photography oriented product. I mean I guess I got used to only using half of the volume steps provided by the LG phones.
I just had high expectations out of Sony in the audio department. Great camera. As for the dac mentioned above, i have a couple so I'm not too worried about getting any more of them. I have a couple of headphone I can try out besides my audio technicas.

The audio capability of the phone is lacking
Bluetooth volume is pretty poor even though it's decent quality
The 3.5mm Jack absolutely doesn't have that much power to drive much more than basic iem 8 to 16 ohm level. Can't push my 150ohm cans at all

Definitely louder than the previous phones. I'm just happy that the jack is back. I did notice a difference with bluetooth vs wired on WH1000XM4. Volume was definitely louder on bluetooth, but can really notice the difference in quality despite LDAC. But that's just me.

R800x_user said:
Yeah LG has done the headphone jack justice, but I was expecting a bit more out of the mark 2 for it's price point.
Like hi-res audio. I get it's mainly a photography oriented product. I mean I guess I got used to only using half of the volume steps provided by the LG phones.
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But it does have Hi-Res audio. Volume is a bit lower, but is also the curve of the volume control. With the LG the volume control is linear, with the Sony starts to increase real slow, until over half of the volume.

Sho-Bud said:
But it does have Hi-Res audio. Volume is a bit lower, but is also the curve of the volume control. With the LG the volume control is linear, with the Sony starts to increase real slow, until over half of the volume.
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Yeah volume has to be over half way to start making decent sound. Regular buds are fine though. I have some kz iems and it's fine with those. Just higher impedance isn't for this phone.

My Beoplay H6 headphones have an impedance of 30 Ohms. They work great with the Sony. I can't compare, these are the only wired headphones I have.

The audio quality is perfect with my XBA-N3AP or WH1000XM3

niaboc79 said:
The audio quality is perfect with my XBA-N3AP or WH1000XM3
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Oh snap, how are the XBAs?
Currently, I'm using AKG N700nc2( using them wired )

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Oh snap, how are the XBAs?
Currently, I'm using AKG N700nc2( using them wired )
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XBA are amazing, well balanced and no extra bass like many earphones.
With an upgraded cable it's even better [emoji106]
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The audio quality is perfect with my XBA-N3AP or WH1000XM3
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I think using its headphone jack to push N3AP do not working perfect, the human voice is low, the sound ‘s analysis goes bad, compare to use usb-3.5 dac line. I use IE60.

highlightshadow said:
The audio capability of the phone is lacking
Bluetooth volume is pretty poor even though it's decent quality
The 3.5mm Jack absolutely doesn't have that much power to drive much more than basic iem 8 to 16 ohm level. Can't push my 150ohm cans at all
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Poor volume, I can still get hearing damage by the levels of volume here.
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Monster_Dawn said:
I think using its headphone jack to push N3AP do not working perfect, the human voice is low, the sound ‘s analysis goes bad, compare to use usb-3.5 dac line. I use IE60.
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I haven't tried with a dac, I will try to compare with my XA50ES
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For everyone who isn't satisfied with the performance of the headphone jack:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xnext-walkman-v1-0-xperia-1ii-5-ii-t4192117
Require a rooted device

[email protected] said:
For everyone who isn't satisfied with the performance of the headphone jack:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xnext-walkman-v1-0-xperia-1ii-5-ii-t4192117
Require a rooted device
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Apologies for replying to an old threat, but what became of this? The link is now dead unfortunately. Was it an actual improvement or deleted because it was non-functional? Thanks.

Coleh said:
Apologies for replying to an old threat, but what became of this? The link is now dead unfortunately. Was it an actual improvement or deleted because it was non-functional? Thanks.
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Try to dm peter. I didn't have a chance to save this.

Sony Xperia 1 II most probably uses a Qualcomm audio codec. Can be their flagship Aqstic WCD9341, a dedicated audio chip. Only a proper tear-down will reveal the details. As I found out this audio chip contains a very good DAC section and can produce nearly 1 Vrms at headphone out when implemented in high performance mode.