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Do i need an amp for my headset?

Hey Guys,..
I just ordered a new headset from sennheiser.
I red somewhere that smartphones and mp3 players might not have enough power to make your headphones sounds nice at higher volume.
I cant seem to find any figures for the note 2 that i can use to do the math, so does any one know what the output is of the note 2?
Or perhaps someone has already tried this?
I bought the sennheiser 449, and was looking to add a FiiO E6 IF needed.
Thanks.

The phone should power the headphones, as it has a Wolfson DAC like some of the older model iPods, and a lot of people in the audiophile community claim the iPods with the Wolfson DAC were the best sounding (a little bit warmer and they give an overall better sound in comparison to the audi chips Apple are using nowadays from Cirrus Logic.
Try the stock player when they arrive and play about with PowerAmp and Jet Audio has loads of extra controls for sound settings etc, adding an extra headphone amp would boost the volume and give you a little more bass but at the cost of adding extra bulk, which sometimes isn't a good thing if your on the go all the time! Also apparently in the future BBE may be porting their SoundMax app from iOS to Android
I have been looking into getting a Note 2 for daily use and music, (trying to find an app that will play apple lossless!) and I also want to try and avoid adding the extra bulk of a headphone amp, the phone is big enough as it is Headphone wise, if your a bass head there is the newly released V-Moda M-100 which have been getting rave reviews, there is also the older V-Moda M80's which as still really good for the money (about the same you paid for your new Sennheisers). I have been looking at the AKG K550's a real nice set of headphones, they certainly look the part, and they are apparently great being powered by a Mobile, they are also closed back, so not much sound leak when your out and about. Hope this helps.

the only thing you should look at when buying new cans is the impedance (measured in ohm). in your case the impedance of the sennheiser 449 lies between 35 & 45 ohm. so, no problem to drive them without a dedicated headphone amp on smartphones and mp3 players respectively. to give you comparison, there are headphones with several hundered ohms of impedance. for these a headphone amp is highly recommended

right thats what i wanted to know because one youtube vid said that you DO need an amp if you are going to use it on your smartphone.
but i will give it a try without.
thanks.

Nope it doesn't require.... I have gaming stereo headset... Big in size, it works well in my nexus s... And must be working in note 2... Note 2 is using newer version of Wolfson chips
Accidentally sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2

I guess, you don't really 'need' it, but if you have a portable AMP, it always make your headphones sound better.

[Q] Ohm specs of headphones

I am in the market for a set on new head phones. but I will be using my P6 for another year and 10 months. so it will be the main audio source for me. I cant find the specs, I hope someone knows this.
Q: whit is the ohm rating headphones I can use with my P6? The earphones I want is 18ohm. I am affraid its to low? The 300ohm headphone I saw is much to high and will be very soft. Will the internal audio amp work good with the 18ohm or not?
Thanx

benna said:
I am in the market for a set on new head phones. but I will be using my P6 for another year and 10 months. so it will be the main audio source for me. I cant find the specs, I hope someone knows this.
Q: whit is the ohm rating headphones I can use with my P6? The earphones I want is 18ohm. I am affraid its to low? The 300ohm headphone I saw is much to high and will be very soft. Will the internal audio amp work good with the 18ohm or not?
Thanx
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Internal audio amp will work perfectly with 18ohm, even works well with 32ohm. Haven't tried but I dont think you will be able to run off 300ohm headphones from the phones internal amp, also 300ohm for portable headphones is alot

benna said:
I am in the market for a set on new head phones. but I will be using my P6 for another year and 10 months. so it will be the main audio source for me. I cant find the specs, I hope someone knows this.
Q: whit is the ohm rating headphones I can use with my P6? The earphones I want is 18ohm. I am affraid its to low? The 300ohm headphone I saw is much to high and will be very soft. Will the internal audio amp work good with the 18ohm or not?
Thanx
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Might I ask what headphones are you aiming to buy? Also the budget?

I bought for my p6 the 16ohm Sennheiser In-Ear CX 300-II Precision . They work perfect and sound quality is the best for the budget.

PulseDroid said:
Might I ask what headphones are you aiming to buy? Also the budget?
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The budeget: Not more than R2000 ( abought 200 dollars) or as little as possible. I was aiming for the Sennheiser Momentun One Ear(18 ohms), while its little over the budget , I dont think ist going to be worth it. Why I say this, is I had a demo today with the Sennheiser 205, in the store it was R1500. The audio quality with that compared to a cheapie.......was not much. I think our phone audio is not top notch. So I wont sped allot of money on good head phones. I am going for the Koss Porta Pro. Do you know much of headphones?

benna said:
The budeget: Not more than R2000 ( abought 200 dollars) or as little as possible. I was aiming for the Sennheiser Momentun One Ear(18 ohms), while its little over the budget , I dont think ist going to be worth it. Why I say this, is I had a demo today with the Sennheiser 205, in the store it was R1500. The audio quality with that compared to a cheapie.......was not much. I think our phone audio is not top notch. So I wont sped allot of money on good head phones. I am going for the Koss Porta Pro. Do you know much of headphones?
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I am a sound fanatic. But I don't know much about lower powered ones, I always use my headphones on my amp, and I use Apple's new Earpods for my phone just because they sound alright.
I have Sennheiser HD535s they are about 20 years old, and boy they still sound better than almost anything I can find, I pair them with my Technics SU-500 amp, which is also roughly 30 years old ( Back when Technics were actually good. )
I'll do a bit of reading and come back to you, it helps that I am also in SA so that I know it's available here
Also have to say, cheaper Sennheisers are disappointing. R1500 for those are way to much, you can get those for R400-R750.
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The HD 335 looks decent for R1700.
They look a bit bulkier than the Momentun's.
Audio Wharehouse
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Seems like they are made for mobile, they are 32ohm.

benna said:
The budeget: Not more than R2000 ( abought 200 dollars) or as little as possible. I was aiming for the Sennheiser Momentun One Ear(18 ohms), while its little over the budget , I dont think ist going to be worth it. Why I say this, is I had a demo today with the Sennheiser 205, in the store it was R1500. The audio quality with that compared to a cheapie.......was not much. I think our phone audio is not top notch. So I wont sped allot of money on good head phones. I am going for the Koss Porta Pro. Do you know much of headphones?
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P6 doesnt have a good audio chip, true, the audio jack is also designed in a weird way - eg rotating the audio plug around it sometimes goes to mono and so on

Which headphones are recommended for the HTC 10?

I was lucky and got an HTC 10 with high res earbuds but now my other headphones suck except the beyerdynamic DT 770 pro but they are not for everyday use
What do you guys use?
Btw. Are the Apple Earpods working for you? Mine are not recognized by the phone...

there really isn't a specific recommendation.... it's totally dependant on your tastes...
I will buy your hi res headphones from you

Hehe I don't sell them
I have beats Tour and beats power and they sound aweful.
My beloved earpods are not recognized by my phone, sadly.
Maybe they are too old.
I also tested some Philips and they were aweful too.
I need some recommendations

I bought 1more dual driver and im really satisfy
Enviado do meu HTC 10 através de Tapatalk

I'm using ultimate ears triple fi 10 with headphone amplifier. Works great, but i have to put off boom sound software feature to get full range music. The bass boost with boom sound is just rubbish and kills the mids completly. So i dont really use 10's special music features unless the enhanced powered headphone jack. Besides that every 820 device should sound the same as they are using the same DAC.

xperia x root said:
... every 820 device should sound the same as they are using the same DAC.
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HTC claimed they worked with Qualcomm to optimise the output circuitry to work with the DAC so it would be better than other implementations. I don't know how much difference it made...

What type of earphones are you looking for? In ear, on ear, over ear?
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No in ears
Something like https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B0080..._SR100,100_&psc=1&refRID=WSNP2ASJPR562DCAQCKY
Or.
https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B014W...bo+play+h7&dpPl=1&dpID=419IfVJf+sL&ref=plSrch

I've been very satisfied with the RHA Ma750s. If you like cheaper earpods I've tried Samsung's ear pods that are included w/ the gs6 which sound pretty good.
I've also found on bass heavy sets (in my case Bose IE2s, in your case beats tour) it helps to create an audio profile and set the first 2 frequencies to minimum, set mid to 3-4, and set the two high freqs to 9-10. This helps with the lack of treble response on bass heavy earbuds.

I recommend checking out head-fi forums for some advice, but for ear buds, I love my AKG K318s. They are open back ear buds and the have pretty fantastic clarity and openness to them for being ear buds. They are great in the mids to highs, but bass response isn't that great - depends on your music tastes. They are perfect for rock/classical/vocals stuff like that. For bassier stuff, I use a pair of V-Moda BassFreq but I dont believe either of these are made anymore. I use mostly Sennheiser Momentum over-ear and on-ears at work, and Philips SHP9500/Grado SR80 at home.

I use klipsch x12i in ears.
They're pricey but well worth it.
Came from klipsch x10i and x11i.
Once you've had a pair, you're hooked.
They sound amazing...

The HTC 10 is a great audio device but it certainly doesn't sound the same as any other mobile device using the Qualcomm 820 SoC....
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/02/qualcomm-aqstic-sets-new-standard-audiophiles

Audiotechnica ATH-M50 headphones for the win!
I use the headphones at work and there is a SIGNIFICANT sound quality difference from when I plug it into my PC vs my HTC 10. The 10 adds another dimension to the music and makes it sounds more... vibrant?

chetly968 said:
The HTC 10 is a great audio device but it certainly doesn't sound the same as any other mobile device using the Qualcomm 820 SoC....
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/02/qualcomm-aqstic-sets-new-standard-audiophiles
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Not quite my friend...
Taken from:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-10-audio-testing-boomsound-evolved
"Qualcomm's Snapdragon 820 does a lot of things right, but clear audio isn't one of those things. Something in the digital to analog converter circuit introduces an extreme amount of noise and crosstalk into the analog output, and phones like the U.S. Galaxy S7 and LG G5 sound pretty poor because of this. After doing some testing, I was presented with results that just didn't make sense from the HTC 10 — it was better than it should be, even with extra work and attention to the analog circuit that brings signal from the DAC output to the headphone jack. You can only do so much magic to a bad signal. I asked HTC how they did it, and found out that some assumptions about the HTC 10 audio hardware that the internet (and myself) has are incorrect. The HTC 10 uses a stand-alone DAC as well as headphone amp and isn't using the Snapdragon 820 DAC. This is pretty important, and why the HTC 10 sounds as good as it does.
We use a discrete DAC (not one on the SoC) in addition to the amp and have done a ton of PCB engineering to insure the best possible signal-to-noise ratio. Credit to HTC engineering, not off-the-shelf components.
So much for relying on the internet. That's a mistake I won't make again.
Needless to say, the results of my benchmark testing with the HTC 10 are pretty damn outstanding."

The discrete DAC is the Qualcomm Aqstic and it sounds awesome, the best I've ever heard in a phone.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/02/qualcomm-aqstic-sets-new-standard-audiophiles
Xiaomi Piston 3's sound AMAZING for the price, which is around $12, but for best SQ you need to be careful to avoid fakes, replace the tips (included tips are rubbish), and burn them in for ~50 hrs.

I currently use the Audio-Technica ATH-CKR10 and it sounds amazing for my type of music (edm, trance, vocal trance) although they are quite expensive at around 200 your best bet is to get them from amazon and make sure its fulfilled by amazon, for some reason the other listings are always 300-600 bucks....

Ordered some Sony bluetooth over the ear headphones on Amazon prime day, work great. They were 50% off
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whatthefunk said:
The discrete DAC is the Qualcomm Aqstic and it sounds awesome, the best I've ever heard in a phone.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2016/06/02/qualcomm-aqstic-sets-new-standard-audiophiles
Xiaomi Piston 3's sound AMAZING for the price, which is around $12, but for best SQ you need to be careful to avoid fakes, replace the tips (included tips are rubbish), and burn them in for ~50 hrs.
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Would you mind sharing a link of a legit seller for the Xiaomi earbuds? I tried purchasing a set last summer but got burned by eBay seller and received a knock off. One of the earbuds volume was significantly lower (almost nonexistent) than the other earbud. Would like to try out some quality hi-res earbuds, my 2013 Beats Tours are pretty disappointing in both the sound department, as well as them constantly falling out of my ears.
But as far as Headphones go, My Beats Studio 2.0's sound amazing when I Calibrate the sound profile to them. The Dolby effects "Studio" setting really helps separate the sound stage nicely. So nice, it's allowed me to fight off the itch to mess around with V4A and all the other sound mods I have run in the past, and a much nicer richer listening experience as well.
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For bang for the bucks, try VSONIC GR07, despite the lame plastic chassis, it really does sound like a ~200-dollar-headphone. I like it more than my UE triple.fi, even UE900, sound-wise.

So i'm using the "Bose Soundsport" while in gym, on the bike or just walking outside. Although i'm not a big fan of Bose products i can highly recommend these because they are so damn comfortable as they are between real In-Ears and EarPods and sound excellent for their size. (way better than the High Res HTC In-Ears)
At home or while working i take my "Bowers & Wilkins P7", which were brought on a new level when i switched from HTC M7 to HTC 10!
But in the end it depends on what sound you like and the quality you use...for me it was always hard to find good headphones as i hear very different genres like Hiphop, Rock, Punk-Rock, House, Jazz etc.

Headphone amp recommendations

So my last phone before getting the Pixel 3 XL was an LG V30. One of the things I really missed about that phone was the built in quad DAC. I'm not a huge audiophile but I bought a pair of 50 ohm earbuds that the Pixel just won't power enough. I was looking at getting the FiiO A1. Any opinions on that or any other amp/DAC?

sdotkdot said:
So my last phone before getting the Pixel 3 XL was an LG V30. One of the things I really missed about that phone was the built in quad DAC. I'm not a huge audiophile but I bought a pair of 50 ohm earbuds that the Pixel just won't power enough. I was looking at getting the FiiO A1. Any opinions on that or any other amp/DAC?
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Checkout creatives headphone amp, you wont be dissapointed.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll look it up

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=devdnua.equalizerp.pro
Boost volume big time, at some point in high volume gets distorted but full eq to tune to your iiking.
There is a free version to try before buying

go to visit your ear doctor and get the ears picked might solve your problem.
Just teasing lol

Man....many years of listening to music at high volume has led me here. No doctor needed ?

Might be worth keeping an eye on the Helm Boostcable. It's a minimalist, inline amp so it's ultra portable... It just hasn't released yet so who knows if it will actually be worth buying at launch.
Seems like a cool idea though.

I just order this today. Lots of good reviews.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HRNQ9VP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also order a pair of Sennheiser HD 650 Headphone.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00018MSNI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

boxcar8028 said:
I just order this today. Lots of good reviews.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HRNQ9VP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also order a pair of Sennheiser HD 650 Headphone.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00018MSNI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Yeah, I want that one too. A little out of my price range currently but it's on my list

sdotkdot said:
Yeah, I want that one too. A little out of my price range currently but it's on my list
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Okay, I just got both units today the spectra X and the Sennheiser 650. WOW! right off the bat I can tell you that both units are well worth the money. The spectra X can be ordered with different connections. I order the USB C to 3.5 Jack. The dac makes a huge difference even with light weight headphones the sound is cleaner, clearer and WAY more distinct then the dac build into the Pixel 3xl. So far I really like it and highly recommend.
The Sennheiser 650, oh my God it's day and night compared to my bose QC35ll. I'm listening to them right out of the box, raw without burning them in and the sound is already amazing! The sound stage is so much larger and smooootthhhher then my bose. I'm no stereo expert, all I know is what I like, and boy, what I hear, I like!

boxcar8028 said:
Okay, I just got both units today the spectra X and the Sennheiser 650. WOW! right off the bat I can tell you that both units are well worth the money. The spectra X can be ordered with different connections. I order the USB C to 3.5 Jack. The dac makes a huge difference even with light weight headphones the sound is cleaner, clearer and WAY more distinct then the dac build into the Pixel 3xl. So far I really like it and highly recommend.
The Sennheiser 650, oh my God it's day and night compared to my bose QC35ll. I'm listening to them right out of the box, raw without burning them in and the sound is already amazing! The sound stage is so much larger and smooootthhhher then my bose. I'm no stereo expert, all I know is what I like, and boy, what I hear, I like!
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Thats a crazy amount of money, id expect it to be top quality 600ohms studio sound at that price. Must still sound spectacular though.
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This one for instance supports 600ohm studio equipment. https://uk.creative.com/p/super-x-fi/creative-sxfi-amp

boxcar8028 said:
Okay, I just got both units today the spectra X and the Sennheiser 650. WOW! right off the bat I can tell you that both units are well worth the money. The spectra X can be ordered with different connections. I order the USB C to 3.5 Jack. The dac makes a huge difference even with light weight headphones the sound is cleaner, clearer and WAY more distinct then the dac build into the Pixel 3xl. So far I really like it and highly recommend.
The Sennheiser 650, oh my God it's day and night compared to my bose QC35ll. I'm listening to them right out of the box, raw without burning them in and the sound is already amazing! The sound stage is so much larger and smooootthhhher then my bose. I'm no stereo expert, all I know is what I like, and boy, what I hear, I like!
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The P3XL doesn't have an analogue output, the built-in DAC exclusively drives the speakers

[my recommendation... V50. :good:

I highly recommend these, for the price it is unbeatable.
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/4Nv2Ffvm

boe323 said:
Thats a crazy amount of money, id expect it to be top quality 600ohms studio sound at that price. Must still sound spectacular though.
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This one for instance supports 600ohm studio equipment. https://uk.creative.com/p/super-x-fi/creative-sxfi-amp
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You should see tge costs of numerous studio grade headsets. These are actually middle of the road in terms of price. A number of sers exceed $700. In no way am I saying the juice is worth the squeeze just that while high compared to generally good consumer sets these are not crazy $$ when you get into top audiophile levels. Forums in general bring out those of extremes regardless of the focus.
I will say the dac analog inline converter while may be great perf even @ the $189 price tag seems to have an issue with droppibg the left channel to speaker. I have seen a few complaints about this and they are specific to the left channel. One I just thought was some extreme nut given his novel long review rant update but then there want another then anothet. All got bad CS and for this price tag which is the top in this form factor that is just not acceptable. The issue could be minor but NOT bad unattentive CS when average unit prices are less thsn 1/2 the cost of this unit.

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[DISCUSSION] Headphone Jack performance

I wanted to start a thread discussing the performance of the headphone jack. I'm a bit disappointed considering Sony's audiophile history with their walkmans and LDAC codec.
Yes, I'm nit picking about a $13XX dollar phone but for this price, I was expecting a bit more that just average performance.
For comparison I do have a LG V40 with it's quad dac and it powers my audio technicas perfectly fine with High-Impedance mode.
On the MK ii, I don't get the full sound with out an external dac coming into play.
I'd like to ask other MK ii owners if having just a headphone jack is enough to power your earbuds/iems/headphones.
Going to do a bit more in detail research within a couple of days but I think Sony just wanted to slap a headphone jack just to say it has one.
Ps- I'm no audiophile but having a full sound for the headphones I have is a must.

Thank you! This thread is very interesting.
I have reduced hearing and I badly need a smartphone with high-output. My LG V30 with it's QUAD-DAC has no problem giving me enough volume even on my favourite pair Hifiman HE-4xx.
I was hoping that Sony 1 mk2 was an alternative, but maybe not................ ?

R800x_user said:
I wanted to start a thread discussing the performance of the headphone jack. I'm a bit disappointed considering Sony's audiophile history with their walkmans and LDAC codec.
Yes, I'm nit picking about a $13XX dollar phone but for this price, I was expecting a bit more that just average performance.
For comparison I do have a LG V40 with it's quad dac and it powers my audio technicas perfectly fine with High-Impedance mode.
On the MK ii, I don't get the full sound with out an external dac coming into play.
I'd like to ask other MK ii owners if having just a headphone jack is enough to power your earbuds/iems/headphones.
Going to do a bit more in detail research within a couple of days but I think Sony just wanted to slap a headphone jack just to say it has one.
Ps- I'm no audiophile but having a full sound for the headphones I have is a must.
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You may want to make the distinction between headphone jacks that can and cannot drive high impedance headphones as a headphone jack that can't can still be good as in clear, little to no distortion with good response and sound reproduction.
In this case its more like LG's has gone out of their way to include a dac that can power high impedance headphones (which is rare in the first place, in addition to the jack being rare) so if high impedance headphones usage is a top priority, then sticking to LG would be recommended.

I have a Meizu Pro usb dac which has a good reputation. The volume of the Meizu is a bit higher, but the audio quality of the Sony is equal. You just have to increase the volume 2 or 3 notches. The Sony uses the Qualcom dac and excellent Cirrus amplifier chips. I use my Beoplay H6 over the ear headphones for listening. The volume being a bit lower is no problem for me, I still can get serious hearing damage if I want to.
The audio is detailed, excellent channel separation, noise is undetectable.

jwalesh96 said:
You may want to make the distinction between headphone jacks that can and cannot drive high impedance headphones as a headphone jack that can't can still be good as in clear, little to no distortion with good response and sound reproduction.
In this case its more like LG's has gone out of their way to include a dac that can power high impedance headphones (which is rare in the first place, in addition to the jack being rare) so if high impedance headphones usage is a top priority, then sticking to LG would be recommended.
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I have a Meizu Pro usb dac which has a good reputation. The volume of the Meizu is a bit higher, but the audio quality of the Sony is equal. You just have to increase the volume 2 or 3 notches. The Sony uses the Qualcom dac and excellent Cirrus amplifier chips. I use my Beoplay H4 over the ear headphones for listening. The volume being a bit lower is no problem for me, I still can get serious hearing damage if I want to.
The audio is detailed, excellent channel separation, noise is undetectable.
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Yeah LG has done the headphone jack justice, but I was expecting a bit more out of the mark 2 for it's price point.
Like hi-res audio. I get it's mainly a photography oriented product. I mean I guess I got used to only using half of the volume steps provided by the LG phones.
I just had high expectations out of Sony in the audio department. Great camera. As for the dac mentioned above, i have a couple so I'm not too worried about getting any more of them. I have a couple of headphone I can try out besides my audio technicas.

The audio capability of the phone is lacking
Bluetooth volume is pretty poor even though it's decent quality
The 3.5mm Jack absolutely doesn't have that much power to drive much more than basic iem 8 to 16 ohm level. Can't push my 150ohm cans at all

Definitely louder than the previous phones. I'm just happy that the jack is back. I did notice a difference with bluetooth vs wired on WH1000XM4. Volume was definitely louder on bluetooth, but can really notice the difference in quality despite LDAC. But that's just me.

R800x_user said:
Yeah LG has done the headphone jack justice, but I was expecting a bit more out of the mark 2 for it's price point.
Like hi-res audio. I get it's mainly a photography oriented product. I mean I guess I got used to only using half of the volume steps provided by the LG phones.
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But it does have Hi-Res audio. Volume is a bit lower, but is also the curve of the volume control. With the LG the volume control is linear, with the Sony starts to increase real slow, until over half of the volume.

Sho-Bud said:
But it does have Hi-Res audio. Volume is a bit lower, but is also the curve of the volume control. With the LG the volume control is linear, with the Sony starts to increase real slow, until over half of the volume.
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Yeah volume has to be over half way to start making decent sound. Regular buds are fine though. I have some kz iems and it's fine with those. Just higher impedance isn't for this phone.

My Beoplay H6 headphones have an impedance of 30 Ohms. They work great with the Sony. I can't compare, these are the only wired headphones I have.

The audio quality is perfect with my XBA-N3AP or WH1000XM3

niaboc79 said:
The audio quality is perfect with my XBA-N3AP or WH1000XM3
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Oh snap, how are the XBAs?
Currently, I'm using AKG N700nc2( using them wired )

R800x_user said:
Oh snap, how are the XBAs?
Currently, I'm using AKG N700nc2( using them wired )
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XBA are amazing, well balanced and no extra bass like many earphones.
With an upgraded cable it's even better [emoji106]
Envoyé de mon XQ-AT51 en utilisant Tapatalk

niaboc79 said:
The audio quality is perfect with my XBA-N3AP or WH1000XM3
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I think using its headphone jack to push N3AP do not working perfect, the human voice is low, the sound ‘s analysis goes bad, compare to use usb-3.5 dac line. I use IE60.

highlightshadow said:
The audio capability of the phone is lacking
Bluetooth volume is pretty poor even though it's decent quality
The 3.5mm Jack absolutely doesn't have that much power to drive much more than basic iem 8 to 16 ohm level. Can't push my 150ohm cans at all
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Poor volume, I can still get hearing damage by the levels of volume here.
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Monster_Dawn said:
I think using its headphone jack to push N3AP do not working perfect, the human voice is low, the sound ‘s analysis goes bad, compare to use usb-3.5 dac line. I use IE60.
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I haven't tried with a dac, I will try to compare with my XA50ES
Envoyé de mon XQ-AT51 en utilisant Tapatalk

For everyone who isn't satisfied with the performance of the headphone jack:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xnext-walkman-v1-0-xperia-1ii-5-ii-t4192117
Require a rooted device

[email protected] said:
For everyone who isn't satisfied with the performance of the headphone jack:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xnext-walkman-v1-0-xperia-1ii-5-ii-t4192117
Require a rooted device
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Apologies for replying to an old threat, but what became of this? The link is now dead unfortunately. Was it an actual improvement or deleted because it was non-functional? Thanks.

Coleh said:
Apologies for replying to an old threat, but what became of this? The link is now dead unfortunately. Was it an actual improvement or deleted because it was non-functional? Thanks.
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Try to dm peter. I didn't have a chance to save this.

Sony Xperia 1 II most probably uses a Qualcomm audio codec. Can be their flagship Aqstic WCD9341, a dedicated audio chip. Only a proper tear-down will reveal the details. As I found out this audio chip contains a very good DAC section and can produce nearly 1 Vrms at headphone out when implemented in high performance mode.