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Ok so I'm sick and tired of dealing with sprint's pathetic excuse for "3g" speeds. And using 3 year old phone technology (lg optimus).
I've been a part of the android club since the G1 and my biggest gripe has always been the lack of hardware acceleration. Finally I thought, a phone that does this! But everyone is saying there are screen problems...and it's not as snappy as they wish it were.
Are the issues really as bad as some make it out to be? Or are these just people who like to complain for the sake of complaining? If I do order one what should I make sure to check...and how long do you have to send it back?
Really want to click the "order" button on google play...someone convince me!! I was waiting to see what the SGIII was going to be priced at...but I know it'll be way way more. I don't really like the idea of spending more than $400 on a phone.
Nobody can decide for you. If it doesn't work out, return it. You also have a 1-yr warranty for showstopping issues.
Every electronic device has potential issues. Mine has been flawless for months...and I'm not alone.
Regardless of what phone you order there is always the possibility of recieving a device with faulty hardware. In that case you can return it for a new one.
I can't really convince you either way. I love my Nexus, and haven't really had any issues with it. I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who asks. SGS3 could turn out to be great, but if you are looking to spend a little less and want something now I'd go for it.
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Regardless of what phone you order there is always the possibility of recieving a device with faulty hardware. In that case you can return it for a new one.
I can't really convince you either way. I love my Nexus, and haven't really had any issues with it. I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who asks. SGS3 could turn out to be great, but if you are looking to spend a little less and want something now I'd go for it.
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I do want it! Not looking for someone to decide for me...just hoping the issues aren't as widespread as some say. Seems like almost every experience I've read people have had to send the phone back 2-3 times to get a good one.
Kinda crazy for something that's been in production for 6 months now no?
I like mine. You could go to a Verizon store and check the screen out. The biggest gripe people have is on a grey background on low brightness there can be a grainy appearance. Meh. Don't get it if you care but honestly I don't
I haven't had any other hardware issues.
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Ok so I'm sick and tired of dealing with sprint's pathetic excuse for "3g" speeds. And using 3 year old phone technology (lg optimus).
I've been a part of the android club since the G1 and my biggest gripe has always been the lack of hardware acceleration. Finally I thought, a phone that does this! But everyone is saying there are screen problems...and it's not as snappy as they wish it were.
Are the issues really as bad as some make it out to be? Or are these just people who like to complain for the sake of complaining? If I do order one what should I make sure to check...and how long do you have to send it back?
Really want to click the "order" button on google play...someone convince me!! I was waiting to see what the SGIII was going to be priced at...but I know it'll be way way more. I don't really like the idea of spending more than $400 on a phone.
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I highly doubt the Galaxy Nexus has any more or less hardware variability or faults than any other phone. People just like to complain, and the minority with issues are ALWAYS more vocal than the people who are happy.
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I highly doubt the Galaxy Nexus has any more or less hardware variability or faults than any other phone. People just like to complain, and the minority with issues are ALWAYS more vocal than the people who are happy.
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Okay you convinced me
So what's the process for using this phone with tmobile's $30/month plan? I order it online and then take it into any walmart?
Yes, every phone does have it's faults, but the Galaxy Nexus' screen issues is very prominent in so many of these devices that it's ridiculous. And I can tell you firsthand that it is not just for the sake of complaining, a lot of these screens are terrible. I'm waiting on my 3rd Nexus to come in on Wednesday and hopefully there is nothing wrong with it. But I've read countless stories about how many people had to exchange their Nexus 7 or 8 times before they got 1 without problems. But I'm just informing from experience / reading.
Aside from the faulty screens I've gotten, I LOVE this phone. It's amazing and I would definitely recommend you to order this. If you do get 1 with a faulty screen simply exchange it. Everything about this phone is great and for me the Nexus line is the only way to go now.
Not even every phone but almost EVERY device that is made whether it is a radio, television, mouse, speakers, etc. There is a chance of defect. What matters the most is whether or not they will send you a replacement in a timely fashion without question.
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Okay you convinced me
So what's the process for using this phone with tmobile's $30/month plan? I order it online and then take it into any walmart?
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Buy this: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit
When it arrives, activate it here: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-activate
Put it in your phone.
DON'T go into a store. Its an "online only" plan. Call customer service if you need to port a number.
I strongly suggest that you read the Prepaid thread and specific $30 month thread before trying it out. There are some asterisks and fine print when it comes to prepaid. I personally am running this plan and love it. I just recommend you know what you're getting into before signing up.
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Buy this: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit
When it arrives, activate it here: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-activate
Put it in your phone.
DON'T go into a store. Its an "online only" plan. Call customer service if you need to port a number.
I strongly suggest that you read the Prepaid thread and specific $30 month thread before trying it out. There are some asterisks and fine print when it comes to prepaid. I personally am running this plan and love it. I just recommend you know what you're getting into before signing up.
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Thanks. I'm reading that thread now...but I've read several pages and don't see any hidden negatives...what fine print do you speak of? Besides the 100 minutes I don't see any issues...I mostly just want the data speeds! I know about the 5GB cap if that's what you mean...if not, please explain?
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Okay you convinced me
So what's the process for using this phone with tmobile's $30/month plan? I order it online and then take it into any walmart?
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Remember the cdma version seems to have the problems while the GSM version really doesn't. So if you're going for T-Mobile then you don't have too much to worry about.
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Thanks. I'm reading that thread now...but I've read several pages and don't see any hidden negatives...what fine print do you speak of? Besides the 100 minutes I don't see any issues...I mostly just want the data speeds! I know about the 5GB cap if that's what you mean...if not, please explain?
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You don't get roaming, you don't get good customer service, you don't get free nights/weekends/mobile to mobile minutes, your service shuts off on the 30th day of your service if you don't refill. Things like that.
That being said its still the best deal in wireless if you don't need many minutes. I mean I still use it . The pros heavily outweigh the cons.
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You don't get roaming, you don't get good customer service, you don't get free nights/weekends/mobile to mobile minutes, your service shuts off on the 30th day of your service if you don't refill. Things like that.
That being said its still the best deal in wireless if you don't need many minutes. I mean I still use it . The pros heavily outweigh the cons.
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Ah yeah the usual stuff, nothing I'm not used to coming from Virgin Mobile
But thanks for the heads up.
Order placed!!! No going back now...hope I get a good one!
Good luck! Just got mine, no problems (Screen, popping speakers) so far.
My wife got jealous and is now bugging me to find her a good deal for a <4 inch phone on TMo
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Order placed!!! No going back now...hope I get a good one!
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Congrats, you won't regret it, awesome device I'm one of the people that likes this phone. Best damn device I ever held in my hands, once you root it and start flashing (If you're into that), you'll see that the experience will be even better. Enjoy.
If you want you can also try getting the SIM at your local T-Mobile store, to avoid waiting for shipping(I'm sure you'll get the Gnex quicker), rep should give you one. I would anyway..
Thanks everyone. Do you guys use a case/screen protector on yours? Or just never let it out of your hands?
It has curved glass so do screen protectors work as well?
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Thanks everyone. Do you guys use a case/screen protector on yours? Or just never let it out of your hands?
It has curved glass so do screen protectors work as well?
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Personal preference really, there's a bunch of threads around with in depth info regarding SP's and Cases.
Wet apps will always have the best edge cover, but usually might have a minimal orange peel (not all cases). Dry apps on a good quality SP will be crystal clear but might not adhere all the way on edges. My 2cents with personal experience...
This is my layout...
http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-SA-Sa..._1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1335845313&sr=1-2
http://xoskins.com/cell-phone-skin-...tector?zenid=ba77ed9ac693678356cf2b857e75a5dc
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-IMAGE...LPT4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335845447&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Comply-Tx-100...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335845479&sr=1-1
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Thanks everyone. Do you guys use a case/screen protector on yours? Or just never let it out of your hands?
It has curved glass so do screen protectors work as well?
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I use a zagg screen protector and that's it. I feel the cases take away from it design too much. I bought my GSM gnex back in November from the UK (had it shipped international to the US) and I cannot complain about one thing. Screen has been perfect . This is absolutely the best android phone ive ever used by far. You will not regret your purchase in the least bit. Have fun with it, and welcome to the family!
Edit; also if you have any questions when you receive it, don't hesitate to ask or pm
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..buying the Galaxy S3, and instead waiting for the next Nexus?
I'm sick of waiting for a new hardware qwerty to come out (will it ever?) and my Vision is really starting to show it's age, looks and performance-wise.
So I need a new phone, like yesterday. The S3 is begging me to buy it. Can you convince me otherwise?
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Can you convince me otherwise?
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Sure. Just send me the $ you'd spend on the GS3 and you can't buy it. Done deal.
Have you looked into the HTC Doubleshot?
It's a great qwerty phone that I've been using for the past few months to replace my old G2
And we've been getting a good amount of dev action recently too. Check out the threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1209
gtmaster303 said:
Have you looked into the HTC Doubleshot?
It's a great qwerty phone that I've been using for the past few months to replace my old G2
And we've been getting a good amount of dev action recently too. Check out the threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1209
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Not available in the UK :-(
You're sick of waiting. Your Vision is starting to suck. Get the best phone right now, rather than waiting. Waiting is generally silly when it comes to tech. Sorry to not be talking you out of the S3, but it's going to blow your G2/Vision away, even without the QWERTY..
I'm thinking of doing the same, because it seems that we won't get a decent, customizable phone with a hardware keyboard in the foreseeable future..
For what it's worth, if Google goes with Samsung the next Nexus will prob be a slightly tweaked GSIII.
Don't keep looking toward the horizon, find a phone you like now (or the near future) and get it. Something better is ALWAYS coming.
I agree with Nospin pretty much. Keep your G2 for now. There aren't many phones right now that are very much comparable IMO. I've got ICS running on mine and its lightening fast. Every time I go to check out the new phones I can't help but think mine is slightly better of just as good. So why spend the money on something new when you don't need it? Just keep flashing away until you find something that fits you, but again IMO, be like me and go with Adromadus Audacity...its a great ROM.
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Don't think that's what Nospin was saying
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Don't think that's what Nospin was saying
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well I was talking about the looking toward the horizon part. Better to just stick with the G2 for now as there are all of these "better phones" out now. Wait it out until something REALLY good catches your eye, for now the G2 does what all of the new phones do if not more.
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Buy one off eBay. Or I'm willing to sell you my spare if you don't mind paying shipping costs (PM me)
EDIT: if there are any devs that would like to get into this device, please PM me. I can sort you with a device for a lot less than what you normally would pay, possibly even free
This is NOT an advertisement. Just trying to stimulate development for our device
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Buy one off eBay. Or I'm willing to sell you my spare if you don't mind paying shipping costs (PM me)
EDIT: if there are any devs that would like to get into this device, please PM me. I can sort you with a device for a lot less than what you normally would pay, possibly even free
This is NOT an advertisement. Just trying to stimulate development for our device
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Might want to hit up Xboarder, I recall he was looking for one not too long ago
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Might want to hit up Xboarder, I recall he was looking for one not too long ago
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Searched for him, and this is what I found. I don't even have the heart to PM him after reading that thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1461503
It's been a month, and having no further evidence that a software exploit for permanent root/unlocked bootloader is near being released, I'm dumping my HTC One. Hate to have to leave HTC, but with carrier restrictions and not having the ability to customize my device without sending it 2000 miles away, I'm not going to sit on this phone and watch it die for 6 months, then be stuck with it.
I've debated back and forth, and refuse to send my device out to get S-off. I don't think many developers are going to be interested enough to buy the device if they don't already have it knowing this is the only option of doing so. But I do thank Sonic for helping a lot of us out.
Thanks for the help most of you have given me, good luck, and hopefully an exploit comes out by Friday morning.
Have fun. Good luck
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
Best you stick with nexus and dev devices if you care so deeply about rooting your phone. No ones going to stop you from leaving but just know all of us will still be enjoying the beautiful hardware of the HTC one
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rmaccamr said:
It's been a month, and having no further evidence that a software exploit for permanent root/unlocked bootloader is near being released, I'm dumping my HTC One. Hate to have to leave HTC, but with carrier restrictions and not having the ability to customize my device without sending it 2000 miles away, I'm not going to sit on this phone and watch it die for 6 months, then be stuck with it.
I've debated back and forth, and refuse to send my device out to get S-off. I don't think many developers are going to be interested enough to buy the device if they don't already have it knowing this is the only option of doing so. But I do thank Sonic for helping a lot of us out.
Thanks for the help most of you have given me, good luck, and hopefully an exploit comes out by Friday morning.
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... Wow... Your own fault... And you had to make this posy because.... Man whatever... People never get smarter...
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Meh, not sure how much I respect the "look at me" post, but as a person who just switched from a Verizon Gnex to this phone today, the post really needed to be made because it does reflect on more peoples opinion than just his
i guess if you can't take the stock, keep out of the non nexus'....OK that was bad
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AllenConder said:
Meh, not sure how much I respect the "look at me" post, but as a person who just switched from a Verizon Gnex to this phone today, the post really needed to be made because it does reflect on more peoples opinion than just his
i guess if you can't take the stock, keep out of the non nexus'....OK that was bad
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Yea pretty much follow the golden rule. If you aren't fine running stock don't buy it... Unless its a nexus then you get cake.
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
wiredout46 said:
I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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Just jumped ship for the same reason s4 rooted here I come will miss Zoe :silly:
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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Or someone posting something for drama lol.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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AMEN.
Some of the great phones of the past took months to unlock, and the people who waited ended up with awesome
Phones. Anyone who thought this vzw phone would be rooted in a few weeks isn't real bright.
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For all of you that are dumping your Ones for something else BYE . But Im almost possitive there is an exploit for this device and it will not be released untill the 4.3 update rolls out so that it dont get patched , thas my two cents . If after the release there is no exploit , I will then send my SEXY Blue BEAST out to Sonic and let him sprinkle some magic on it , and then we will have Tranquil on our Ones.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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This. The only things that bother me with sense is the cluttered status bar, the wifi persistent notification, and few other other things.
I just picked up my One last night, having been swayed by the irresistible Best Buy price this week. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt, which was my first Android phone and one on which I had a lot of fun learning to root and ROM. I did that to my heart's content on that phone.
Having said that, I came over to this device because, well, yeah, the price... but also because it's such a massive hardware upgrade over the Tbolt. I moved over to this phone with my eyes wide open. I know there's no exploit at present for the One, and I accept that there may never be one. I'm not crazy about Sense, so one of the first things I did was to run Nova Launcher. Bye bye Blinkfeed, etc. I'll be fine running this phone stock unless and until.
I agree with the general consensus here: don't get a phone you won't be happy with stock.
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I just picked up my One last night, having been swayed by the irresistible Best Buy price this week. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt, which was my first Android phone and one on which I had a lot of fun learning to root and ROM. I did that to my heart's content on that phone.
Having said that, I came over to this device because, well, yeah, the price... but also because it's such a massive hardware upgrade over the Tbolt. I moved over to this phone with my eyes wide open. I know there's no exploit at present for the One, and I accept that there may never be one. I'm not crazy about Sense, so one of the first things I did was to run Nova Launcher. Bye bye Blinkfeed, etc. I'll be fine running this phone stock unless and until.
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Congrats on the major hardware upgrade I had the Thunderbolt for a little while, wasn't a big fan, then got the Rezound. Loved the Rezound. But yes, the HTC One is an amazing device, even stock. I also didn't like blinkfeed, so I am, too, using the Nova launcher.
To the OP, thanks for stopping by, good luck with you future devices. I'll hold out for a hopefull exploit after 4.3 is released, and like others have said, if that doesn't turn out, hopefully I can send my phone to Sonic to get s-off.
Should never buy a phone with the expectation that it will be unlocked. Especially in such a short time frame.
I don't think it was necessary to make a post about getting rid of your phone, but to each their own.
I hope you find the phone that works for you. Just don't buy a phone you aren't happy with out of the box. Sounds like you should either buy a nexus phone, a dev edition phone, or wait and buy a phone that the community has already exploited.
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I think I agree with most people when I say this, I didn't buy the One for it's root or ROM capabilities I bought it because the phone is awesome. I personally think HTC did a great job with Sense 5, before I used this I was on the Thunderbolt and it was still a good phone I'm glad u went with HTC. The only reason I care for root now is adblock and uninstalling Verizon's apps.
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Thank you
Thank you .............................
Still have confidence in XDA Dev's
I can sorta see both sides of this. To me the HTC one is the best phone I have owned BY FAR! S4 was great phone but I like the build, screen, and speaker quality of this one better.
I get the "Don't by the phone if you aren't happy running stock" line of thinking. However, I buy these phones with full confidence that XDA developers will find an exploit within a reasonably short time. Every phone I have owned way back to the Driod X were rootable within a short time. Am I wrong for thinking that?
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I get the "Don't by the phone if you aren't happy running stock" line of thinking. However, I buy these phones with full confidence that XDA developers will find an exploit within a reasonably short time. Every phone I have owned way back to the Driod X were rootable within a short time. Am I wrong for thinking that?
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I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong for thinking anything. You would be wrong, however, in buying a phone with expectations that devs would root the phone and then throw a fit if they don't. If you think they owe you something - I'm not saying you do - or if you think you deserve their efforts on your phone of choice then you would be wrong in that.
The advice to buy a phone you love AS-IS is great advice because if you don't get what you're hoping for, you're still good with your choice.
Is it wrong to hope the devs get you squared away quick? No. Is it wrong to demand it of them? Yes.
So my first moto 360 was dead on arrival so I contacted Motorola and all they did was take down my address and said they'd see what they could do and I'd be hearing from someone. A few days passed and I saw one up again on Best Buy so I bought it and got it the next day. Returned the DOA one since it was within Best Buy's 15 day period. The next day I get a new moto 360 on my doorstep with no information on where to return the DOA one. So what should I do with the 'free' moto 360 I have? Was thinking of just holding on to it until Motorola says something, but that may be a while and by then it'd pretty much be useless to sell on eBay or something because the newness period has wore off and everyone who wants one likely has one already.
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So my first moto 360 was dead on arrival so I contacted Motorola and all they did was take down my address and said they'd see what they could do and I'd be hearing from someone. A few days passed and I saw one up again on Best Buy so I bought it and got it the next day. Returned the DOA one since it was within Best Buy's 15 day period. The next day I get a new moto 360 on my doorstep with no information on where to return the DOA one. So what should I do with the 'free' moto 360 I have? Was thinking of just holding on to it until Motorola says something, but that may be a while and by then it'd pretty much be useless to sell on eBay or something because the newness period has wore off and everyone who wants one likely has one already.
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Keep it.
Waiting until somebody pulls ethics.
But who are we to judge?
I'm just saying it is kind of **** to profit off it, I.E. sell it. If you keep it OR give it away and do not profit by selling it personally I think that is "less wrong". I know I wouldn't return it though, that's just me. But I also wouldn't sell it.
I mean if it came with a return slip or I got an email with a return slip. But I really don't want to go out of my way to return it you know. Maybe I'll give it to someone for christmas I don't know or make a usb cable and root it for practice before doing it on my actual one.
You already know what you should do. You simply want someone to tell it it's okay to keep it.
Contact Motorola and explain what happened
Keep it.
They screwed up once by even sending you a DOA and then a 2nd time by not giving you a return slip. Don't go out of your way for these guys... Moto made a nice watch, but the launch has been terrible, they have to learn somehow.
I'd say keep it as well.
Seriously? They screwed up by rushing him a replacement? *facepalm*
Every product has DOA's, it's how they are handled that matters, and rushing a replacement is basically as good as it gets.
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Keep it.
They screwed up once by even sending you a DOA and then a 2nd time by not giving you a return slip. Don't go out of your way for these guys... Moto made a nice watch, but the launch has been terrible, they have to learn somehow.
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Yes steal from the struggling company whose future might depend on this hit product... that's how you "help" them
I don't see why you would even think keeping it is an option...
1) Motorola would absolutely want a DOA back so they can figure out what went wrong
2) A company ALWAYS asks for the item back if it's over $50 in my experience
3) WTF you would actually gift someone a DOA moto 360? And on X-Mas?? That's just mean.
All these people saying "keep it"... do you lie to your insurance too because "they can afford it"?
This thread is just *facepalm* if you're an actual adult.
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Seriously? They screwed up by rushing him a replacement? *facepalm*
Every product has DOA's, it's how they are handled that matters, and rushing a replacement is basically as good as it gets.
Yes steal from the struggling company whose future might depend on this hit product... that's how you "help" them
I don't see why you would even think keeping it is an option...
1) Motorola would absolutely want a DOA back so they can figure out what went wrong
2) A company ALWAYS asks for the item back if it's over $50 in my experience
3) WTF you would actually gift someone a DOA moto 360? And on X-Mas?? That's just mean.
All these people saying "keep it"... do you lie to your insurance too because "they can afford it"?
This thread is just *facepalm* if you're an actual adult.
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Cry more. Think for a second these large companies bat an eyelash at us regular people over? I'd keep it too, but I don't make pretenses that I'm a good person either.
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Seriously? They screwed up by rushing him a replacement? *facepalm*
Every product has DOA's, it's how they are handled that matters, and rushing a replacement is basically as good as it gets.
Yes steal from the struggling company whose future might depend on this hit product... that's how you "help" them
I don't see why you would even think keeping it is an option...
1) Motorola would absolutely want a DOA back so they can figure out what went wrong
2) A company ALWAYS asks for the item back if it's over $50 in my experience
3) WTF you would actually gift someone a DOA moto 360? And on X-Mas?? That's just mean.
All these people saying "keep it"... do you lie to your insurance too because "they can afford it"?
This thread is just *facepalm* if you're an actual adult.
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Lol, poor struggling company... because Lenovo is in such bad shape, ha ha.
The only thing they're struggling with is lazy QC and letting defective and DOA products out the door. I'm actually on my 3rd one due to dead pixels and screen issues. I like the watch, but among other things, they were spooked by the Apple watch announcement and rushed to get these out before they were ready to.
Look at it as a "gift" for your early adoption and inconvenience. Your time and money are valuable, keep it.
Ok. How about this. Tell your grandma that the company sent you a defective unit, then corrected it as soon as they could. Ask your grandma how you should handle it.
Either way, if you have to ask if you should do something, you most likely already know the answer.
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Ok. How about this. Tell your grandma that the company sent you a defective unit, then corrected it as soon as they could. Ask your grandma how you should handle it.
Either way, if you have to ask if you should do something, you most likely already know the answer.
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Its a dead watch! Return it so Motorola can figure out what went wrong. You don't have to kill yourself to immediately return it, but you SHOULD return it nonetheless.
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FallN said:
Its a dead watch! Return it so Motorola can figure out what went wrong. You don't have to kill yourself to immediately return it, but you SHOULD return it nonetheless.
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Read the op.
He returned the doa
Basically, he is going to keep the extra unit. He knows that he defrauded best buy by switching the units out intentionally. Who doesn't want two smart watches for the price of one...the only difference is that he knows it was wrong so he came here hoping that people would cater to his guilt and tell him that it was okay.
id call motorola and ask them what to do..
tell them you already returned the doa watch and you pruchased a new working one..
i bet you 4 out of 5 times they will say to keep it.. they have done it to me with a phone.. they sent me a new one and told me to dispose of the broken one myself.
Tell them you returned the doa to a store that you didn't buy it from, and lied. Let's keep this 100%
Since these watches are in such short supply I'd sell it on for face value so that someone else gets a chance to own one. Then donate the money to a charity of your choice.
Don't feel sorry for Motorola. They have done an awful launch and their quality control is terrible. Whoever thinks that lenovo/Motorola are a "struggling company" is completely delusional. They rushed this product out because they'd been hyping it up for months and they were worried about Apple's keynote. Even though they didn't have enough supply to meet the demand or enough time to check the units they were shipping. I returned both of mine because of dead pixels.
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Look elsewhere for justification.
So after months of fighting with this i have finally found out something and narrowed it down some, wifi works flawlessly with my bluetooth enabled yet when disabled it works like crap for some reason, and i always leave bluetooth disabled, is there any sort of log i can send to developers or someone that knows what they are looking at to possibly fix this? im running the latest Ressurection rom right now, and on my 5ghz network at home custom channel set.
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So after months of fighting with this i have finally found out something and narrowed it down some, wifi works flawlessly with my bluetooth enabled yet when disabled it works like crap for some reason, and i always leave bluetooth disabled, is there any sort of log i can send to developers or someone that knows what they are looking at to possibly fix this? im running the latest Ressurection rom right now, and on my 5ghz network at home custom channel set.
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This phone is riddled with bugs, and new updates only introduce new ones. It's a piece of crap phone with a piece of crap hardware (zero cool features) and a piece of crap software (zero satisfaction). Just accept it! I've been saying this since I got it 4 months ago. But the vocal minority of crappy fanbois will always try to shut you up. Even though I'm keeping this pos only for Project FI, because I pay $25 a month to have a cell phone through it, I'm seriously considering paying $15 a month more with USC prepaid and getting a phone that I actually LIKE. THE BUGS ARE RUINING a decent phone but underwhelming phone. And Google does nothing to fix this.
Well it's on 2.4ghz band also workaround
So I was experiencing this problem on the 2.4ghz band as well and found a workaround is to enable Bluetooth then connect to the network and then disabled Bluetooth and it works well after that...Man I bought this phone for the unlocked bootloader and superior gaming performance. Pretty overwhelmed with the bugs Android Or looks promising though.
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So after months of fighting with this i have finally found out something and narrowed it down some, wifi works flawlessly with my bluetooth enabled yet when disabled it works like crap for some reason, and i always leave bluetooth disabled, is there any sort of log i can send to developers or someone that knows what they are looking at to possibly fix this? im running the latest Ressurection rom right now, and on my 5ghz network at home custom channel set.
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Hello,
You could try to log your activity with a logcat.
How to make a logcat: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=Logcat
Reproduce the issue while logging and once you finish, stop the logcat and send the file to the dev and ask him to take a look... :good:
Good luck...
thanks will try because my little enable disable bluetooth trick isnt working anymore, now i have to constantly leave it on for it to work good
has anyone else experienced this problem?
nabbed said:
This phone is riddled with bugs, and new updates only introduce new ones. It's a piece of crap phone with a piece of crap hardware (zero cool features) and a piece of crap software (zero satisfaction). Just accept it! I've been saying this since I got it 4 months ago. But the vocal minority of crappy fanbois will always try to shut you up. Even though I'm keeping this pos only for Project FI, because I pay $25 a month to have a cell phone through it, I'm seriously considering paying $15 a month more with USC prepaid and getting a phone that I actually LIKE. THE BUGS ARE RUINING a decent phone but underwhelming phone. And Google does nothing to fix this.
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What bugs?
I don't mean to say there aren't any, because I just got it. I'm honestly asking what bugs.
Thanks
thenessus said:
What bugs?
I don't mean to say there aren't any, because I just got it. I'm honestly asking what bugs.
Thanks
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Sorry, watching an online tourney. Just look up the threads that I started in this forum.
nabbed said:
This phone is riddled with bugs, and new updates only introduce new ones. It's a piece of crap phone with a piece of crap hardware (zero cool features) and a piece of crap software (zero satisfaction). Just accept it! I've been saying this since I got it 4 months ago. But the vocal minority of crappy fanbois will always try to shut you up. Even though I'm keeping this pos only for Project FI, because I pay $25 a month to have a cell phone through it, I'm seriously considering paying $15 a month more with USC prepaid and getting a phone that I actually LIKE. THE BUGS ARE RUINING a decent phone but underwhelming phone. And Google does nothing to fix this.
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OP asked for help logging his issue. If at least you read his post you would have known this... You are just here doing what you do in any other thread you opened. Crying that your phone is buggy and crap. Get it replaced or sell it and move on. Problem solved.
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has anyone else experienced this problem?
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Did you already log your issue and report it to your ROM developer?
Also, have you tried switching ROM and reproduce the issue? Just TWRP backup everything and try another ROM. At least you'll know if it's an Android or ROM specific problem. Resurrection Remix is based on a lot of different sources + their own code.
So... Try latest 7.1.2 factory image and try reproducing your issue. If it is persistent, at least you'll know it's an Android bug. If it's solved, then a ROM issue... :good:
Good luck...
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OP asked for help logging his issue. If at least you read his post you would have known this... You are just here doing what you do in any other thread you opened. Crying that your phone is buggy and crap. Get it replaced or sell it and move on. Problem solved.
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I know that no one like complainers but complainers have a reason to complain - in this particular case, incessant bugs from a company who promised frequent updates, only to be thwarted by bugs introduced by their Team B bug hunters.
What you don't have is a reason to complain about complainers. That's just petty and unproductive. Yeah, sure - you love this phone because you bought it for almost $1000, but that doesn't mean that it's perfect. Be a man and stop complaining! Hypocrite.
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I know that no one like complainers but complainers have a reason to complain - in this particular case, incessant bugs from a company who promised frequent updates, only to be thwarted by bugs introduced by their Team B bug hunters.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree with you here. If you didn't understand yet, my only complain is:
You provided no help to the OP. Just saying this phone this, this phone that, blah blah...
Did it help him resolving the issue? Not at all. This thread is not a debate, if you don't have anything relevant to help the OP, your posts are just useless.
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What you don't have is a reason to complain about complainers. That's just petty and unproductive. Yeah, sure - you love this phone because you bought it for almost $1000, but that doesn't mean that it's perfect. Be a man and stop complaining! Hypocrite.
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I got the phone for half the price on eBay.de, since Google decided not to sell Pixel devices in France. At least I saved 400 bucks. Still good for a non perfect device.
Well... You think my post is petty and unproductive. I'm an hypocrite? No offence here, but at least, I'm not the kind of guy who says his device is crap and keep using it.
Cheers...
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Sorry, but I have to disagree with you here. If you didn't understand yet, my only complain is:
You provided no help to the OP. Just saying this phone this, this phone that, blah blah...
Did it help him resolving the issue? Not at all. This thread is not a debate, if you don't have anything relevant to help the OP, your posts are just useless.
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You got me there, big guy. When someone aboard Titanic screams abandon ship, that's completely useless.
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I got the phone for half the price on eBay.de, since Google decided not to sell Pixel devices in France. At least I saved 400 bucks. Still good for a non perfect device.
Well... You think my post is petty and unproductive. I'm an hypocrite? No offence here, but at least, I'm not the kind of guy who says his device is crap and keep using it.
Cheers...
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I don't use this device for the sake of this device but necessity. Project FI, that's what I use it for, because Google says that you have to have an overpriced POS to be able to use Project FI. God bless the ignorant!
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OP asked for help logging his issue. If at least you read his post you would have known this... You are just here doing what you do in any other thread you opened. Crying that your phone is buggy and crap. Get it replaced or sell it and move on. Problem solved.
Did you already log your issue and report it to your ROM developer?
Also, have you tried switching ROM and reproduce the issue? Just TWRP backup everything and try another ROM. At least you'll know if it's an Android or ROM specific problem. Resurrection Remix is based on a lot of different sources + their own code.
So... Try latest 7.1.2 factory image and try reproducing your issue. If it is persistent, at least you'll know it's an Android bug. If it's solved, then a ROM issue... :good:
Good luck...
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I have been able to reproduce it on factory flashed images I can confirm it is not Resurection romr I was just wondering if it was fixed at all, I do not really wanna run a stock factory flashed but in just wondering if anyone else has experienced this before
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I have been able to reproduce it on factory flashed images I can confirm it is not Resurection romr I was just wondering if it was fixed at all, I do not really wanna run a stock factory flashed but in just wondering if anyone else has experienced this before
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So you confirm latest 7.1.2 public release doesn't fix your issue...? Personally, I don't have this bug. As far as I remember, I haven't seen the same issue yet.
Since you're on stock firmware, contact Google and report your issue. If it can't be fixed, ask a replacement asap.
Good luck...
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So you confirm latest 7.1.2 public release doesn't fix your issue...? Personally, I don't have this bug. As far as I remember, I haven't seen the same issue yet.
Since you're on stock firmware, contact Google and report your issue. If it can't be fixed, ask a replacement asap.
Good luck...
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Yep just flashed latest Verizon specific 7.1.2 and same problem occurs, this is getting retardedly annoying
nabbed said:
This phone is riddled with bugs, and new updates only introduce new ones. It's a piece of crap phone with a piece of crap hardware (zero cool features) and a piece of crap software (zero satisfaction). Just accept it! I've been saying this since I got it 4 months ago. But the vocal minority of crappy fanbois will always try to shut you up. Even though I'm keeping this pos only for Project FI, because I pay $25 a month to have a cell phone through it, I'm seriously considering paying $15 a month more with USC prepaid and getting a phone that I actually LIKE. THE BUGS ARE RUINING a decent phone but underwhelming phone. And Google does nothing to fix this.
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Wow, stop crying and sell your damn phone to me. I'll give you $150 since it's such a piece of crap. I've yet to experience 1 bug with this phone, especially the ones you've stated. This is the best phone I've ever had, it's an awesome phone, inside and out. Near perfect phone imo. My wife would love to have your phone, so sell me yours on Swappa or eBay so you can get ready for that crud S8 from Sammy.
IRIE4IPIER said:
Wow, stop crying and sell your damn phone to me. I'll give you $150 since it's such a piece of crap. I've yet to experience 1 bug with this phone, especially the ones you've stated. This is the best phone I've ever had, it's an awesome phone, inside and out. Near perfect phone imo. My wife would love to have your phone, so sell me yours on Swappa or eBay so you can get ready for that crud S8 from Sammy.
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Code:
Great news! Your order on the Google Store has shipped.
Important: Please note that your tracking number may take up to 24 hours to activate. Once your tracking number is active, you can check the status of your shipment here:
Order number:
Order date: Nov 28, 2016 10:28:32 PM PDT
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Shipped -
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1 Pixel XL (128 GB, Very Silver) $869.00
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Processing (1-2 business days) + Delivery Standard (3-5 business days): $0.00
Tax: $60.83
Total: $929.83
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I'll sell you POS. Give me 928 dollars, and you can have a 1 dollar and 83 cents on me!
nabbed said:
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Great news! Your order on the Google Store has shipped.
Important: Please note that your tracking number may take up to 24 hours to activate. Once your tracking number is active, you can check the status of your shipment here:
Order number:
Order date: Nov 28, 2016 10:28:32 PM PDT
Purchased from:
Google Inc.
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View
CA
94043
United States Ship to:
Shipping Status Quantity Item Price
Shipped -
FedEx Ground Home
1 Pixel XL (128 GB, Very Silver) $869.00
1 Project Fi SIM $0.00
Processing (1-2 business days) + Delivery Standard (3-5 business days): $0.00
Tax: $60.83
Total: $929.83
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I'll sell you POS. Give me 928 dollars, and you can have a 1 dollar and 83 cents on me!
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Deal
vidfinnx said:
Yep just flashed latest Verizon specific 7.1.2 and same problem occurs, this is getting retardedly annoying
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Hello...
I guess RMA is your only option right now... If you were lucky enough to recieve a Verizon unlockable bootloader in the first place, you only have a 50% chance with the replacement device. Otherwise, I have no idea...
Good luck. Hoping you'll get a 100% working device soon...
IRIE4IPIER said:
Deal
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Deal!