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considering buying - but software update?

I am considering of buying this phone, but I am concerned about software update since I dont want to get stuck with Marshmallow forever. and I dont want to deal with custom roms. (dont have the time or patience for that)
So, will this phone receive Nougat?

Don't buy mi5s. Xiaomi doesn't support this model like mi5 or mi max. Still no regular updates released.

Thank you. It seems odd that older model is supported and newer model is not. In that case I will not buy the device. I was planning to hold on to it for about 2-3 years and there is no way I am going to get stuck with Android 6 for that long.
What about the Redmi note 4X? Any chance for this phone to get Nougat?

Have you thought about the mi6?

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Have you thought about the mi6?
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I did, but I wont buy it for 2 reason
1. Its way more expensive than the mi5s.
2. It doesnt have a global rom yet and I assume it will take some time until it does
For the price of the mi6, I would rather get the OP3t which is cheaper and already updated to latest android

mazinya said:
Thank you. It seems odd that older model is supported and newer model is not. In that case I will not buy the device. I was planning to hold on to it for about 2-3 years and there is no way I am going to get stuck with Android 6 for that long.
What about the Redmi note 4X? Any chance for this phone to get Nougat?
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Note 4x is the best buy ever,already nougat beta rom and tones of aosp roms :fingers-crossed:

XMoDuLeSx said:
Note 4x is the best buy ever,already nougat beta rom and tones of aosp roms :fingers-crossed:
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My only concern is the camera

Should I buy Lenovo Z2 Plus ??

Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here

That are two phones hard to compare.. snapdragon 820 vs 625, 5inch vs 5.5inch etc, fingerprint on front vs on the back etc... how should we know what you need or want?
Both are great..
And for custom roms > how about if you look into the roms, kernels, recovery.. section? Dont be so lazy man

Modder001 said:
Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here
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Warning: Very long story
My purchase of 3Gb variant of Redmi Note 4 was final but could not buy it (everything happens for a good) as delivery was not available by flipkart in my area. I was very sad and finally decided to buy a new, seal packed Redmi Note 3 from ebay at Rs. 9300 (Rs. 10400 was listed price, after applying coupons it became Rs. 9300) as it had performance and recently got franco kernel too (previously available only on Pixels, Nexus and One Plus devices). Finally saw Lenovo Z2 Plus on Snapdeal for Rs. 12000 and immediately purchased it (was hesitant at first reading reviews on Amazon but could not resist SD 820 at this price).
The phone is great, no heating issues and was much better than Redmi Note 3 (Screen quality, camera quality, general performance, looks) when compared side by side as my friend had one. Battery is also good, I get 5-6 hours Screen on time on 4G network with hotspot on and around 7-8 hours SoT on WiFi.
About development, both devices have great roms but Redmi Note 4 has no custom kernel as kernel source codes are not released currently but may or will get them in future when sources are released. Also if you want to be like a trickster and change TV channels of any TV in lobby of any hospital/Hotel, go for Xiaomi phones as they have IR blaster.
The Z2 Plus recently got official Nougat whereas Redmi Note 3 and 4 are still on Marshmallow but that does not matter as you are planning to use a custom rom and all three have 7.1.2 Nougat custom roms.
Conclusion
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
Currently Z2 Plus is available at Rs.13000 at Snapdeal but wait for amazon sale on 11th, previously at an Amazon sale, it was available for 12K and if you get any bank discount (sometimes 10 to 15% off on SBI Card etc during sale), you can get it for 10-11K too.
Go for the black one, it looks very good
Hope this helps
You can also watch reviews and comparison of phones on youtube for better decisions.

hp5942 said:
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
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I am absolutely agree with hp5942's statements. Development for Z2 is only growing, it will be awesome in a few months. Note 3 has one of the best dev support and will have it for a long time. Note 4 is better looking and feeling than Note 3, but it is less speedy device.

I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?

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I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?
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For long run always go with the phone with more performance.
My friend still has no performance issues with his Mi4 (SD 800, flagship at that time) even after 2.5 years.

if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t

thebiggboss180 said:
if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t
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I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?

Modder001 said:
I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?
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yeah..this phone worth what u paying for.

Why do you guys confuse much. Its good phone for the price. For 13k you are getting snap 820
Its like for the price of audi you getting buggati
Why to get confused. There are minor software hiccups. As you are familiar with xda you can always use custom roms
Hardware wise there are no issues. Build quality is damm solid. I have thrashed my phone many times, but it still survives.
Back glass is lil fragile.

Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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This phone was a worthy buy @18K, it's definitely a steal @12k, but if you can wait, BigBillionDay/GreatIndian sale is around the corner, you might get an even sweeter deal.

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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I bought z2 plus(4,64gb) @ 9.5k from amazon
(Actually 11k - 1.5k cashback)
So wait for any amazon sale
May be buy it on Diwali

For those not used to pimp their phones (unlock bootloader, flash rom etc...), i think Zuk Z2 is not a good choice as the original version is not perfect. But if you like to flash and customize your phone, so yes, 10 times yes,it's a very good phone (have it for almost 1 year and still happy with it).

Is the Xiaomi Mi 6 Worth it?

Hey
Thanks for any help, and sorry if this isn't the proper space for it.
I've a Sprint S6 Edge, but I'm considering changing it for the new Xiami Mi 6. Is it a good deal?
Am I going to miss the 2K Amoled Screen? I'm going to feel the difference in the camera? And the IR sensor? Am I going to miss it that much?

I think MI 6maybe better than S6E, there's a 835 in it.

If u want keep on Sprint, do not purchase the Chinese brand cell phone which not sold by Sprint. Too pain.
If u can transfer to T-Mobile or AT&T, that a great phone recently.

Great phone, got it today.

i buy it today. so i waiting.

Xiaomi only uses good chipset nothing else, S6 Edge is better, dont buy xiaomi

EnesSastim said:
Xiaomi only uses good chipset nothing else, S6 Edge is better, dont buy xiaomi
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You are kidding?The world is developing everyday.

hbbxmjbb said:
You are kidding?The world is developing everyday.
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Lol, okay buy xiaomi and throw it in 5 months

EnesSastim said:
Lol, okay buy xiaomi and throw it in 5 months
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Xiaomi is a great company ,Lei Jun does better than Jobs ,but Samsung is a dirty company .

EnesSastim said:
Lol, okay buy xiaomi and throw it in 5 months
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What do you mean? I'm still using a 3 years old mi 3. Had to change only once the battery. Running the latest RR rom is still better than many new phones with OEM roms.

EnesSastim said:
Lol, okay buy xiaomi and throw it in 5 months
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Why? I have Mi5 for a year,and it shames my father S6E in almost every aspect. Only thing going for S6E is screen...,maybe...

Well, now I'm using MI 6, I got it for have a month. The hardware is good except some problems caused by SD835(such as WiFi...), but the software is not so stable at the moment, for example, in latest version of MIUI the quick charge was limited...
It will be better after a few days, anyway software problems are easy to fix.

EnesSastim said:
Xiaomi only uses good chipset nothing else, S6 Edge is better, dont buy xiaomi
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I don't think so. Used both S6 Active and S7 Active, I would say Mi 6 is better than both.
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shawk12345 said:
Well, now I'm using MI 6, I got it for have a month. The hardware is good except some problems caused by SD835(such as WiFi...), but the software is not so stable at the moment, for example, in latest version of MIUI the quick charge was limited...
It will be better after a few days, anyway software problems are easy to fix.
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Which version MIUI you have? I have no problem with both the latest stable China and Custom EU rom (based on Dev China Rom).... (I used 45W charger of Xiaomi which support both USB PD and QC 3.0)

No roms for this device?

So sad
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 8 Pro mediante Tapatalk

dunklesgemut said:
So sad
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 8 Pro mediante Tapatalk
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Can u check guides section we need some testers for POSP

You could always try a gsi

Will there even be Custom Roms for Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro???
I really don't like MIUI and the only reason i want this phone is because i wish to install a custom rom to it. My favorite being Resurrection Remix but at this point, LineageOS would be fine too.
Any information on the matter?
Is there any rom even being developed for this?

zaiross said:
Will there even be Custom Roms for Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro???
I really don't like MIUI and the only reason i want this phone is because i wish to install a custom rom to it. My favorite being Resurrection Remix but at this point, LineageOS would be fine too.
Any information on the matter?
Is there any rom even being developed for this?
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U willing to test roms ?
Then it might possible

girishjangir7 said:
U willing to test roms ?
Then it might possible
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So you are basicly saying "no, there isn't."
And i am sorry but this is my only phone and i'm unable to test with it.

zaiross said:
So you are basicly saying "no, there isn't."
And i am sorry but this is my only phone and i'm unable to test with it.
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No problem then wait for someone to test

girishjangir7 said:
No problem then wait for someone to test
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https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-8-pro-custom-rom-kernel-developers/
this happened over 2 months ago and yet there is nothing. "need for testing" hmm okay.
Is it because of the Mediatek chip and them not sharing code?
It seems like there will not be any stable enough custom roms for this phone even tho it was realeased 4 months ago, there is still nothing.
Makes me a bit sad. So great specifications but no custom roms. Damn Mediatek! [if its their fault]

@zaiross At the moment, the main problem is a bug that results in hard brick which can only be recovered by a service centre that has an account authorized to flash in EDL mode (the lowest level of service/flash protocol, even lower than Fastboot). So no development because if a ROM Dev causes the hard brick, they have to pay a fee to service centre to get reflash using EDL.
Also does not help that MediaTek seem not interested in the smaller development community. MediaTek have said they are not interested in a similar partnership with the Linux Code Aurora community that Qualcomm works with. It's a pity they're not interested as I believe it would help increase popularity of MTK chips and increase sales over time.

a programmer could modify sp flash tool so it would bypass asking for authorized account. that would be worth to achieve smth for long time than paying services for bricks

I said this before and I'm going to say it again, you will likely not see any further development for this device in the foreseeable future. Sure POSP is stuck on testing but do any one of you honestly see anyone contributing to testing when they will most likely brick the phone during the process?
This is a dead phone. Some of us have sold it and moved on. I will follow suit soon. I recommend you do too.

Helhound0 said:
I said this before and I'm going to say it again, you will likely not see any further development for this device in the foreseeable future. Sure POSP is stuck on testing but do any one of you honestly see anyone contributing to testing when they will most likely brick the phone during the process?
This is a dead phone. Some of us have sold it and moved on. I will follow suit soon. I recommend you do too.
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thank you, I said the same thing month and half ago and nobody listened me.
mediatek is just a waste of time for any development: customs and gcam
move on and buy Redmi Note 8 or Mi9 Lite or Mi 9T, they do have too many developments and working gcam without need of hard working like wyroczen, and nobody will waste money or dismount for unbricking.

Hey brick problem isn't Mediatek's fault...
I get many smartphone with Mediatek's.
All of them were unbrickable...
On every others, you failed your installation, you opened SP Flashtool and reinstalled the previous Rom.
No code were needed.
If you really do a crappy work, you had to reinstall IMEI in addition...that's all.
But hardbrick was totally impossible on any other Mediatek's device I used.
Then comes the problem of developpers...maybe they had to change their mind...yes maybe it's harder...yes maybe they will have less help...
But the other chipmaker's behavior is too dangerous to keep this situation.

Plumplum88 said:
Hey brick problem isn't Mediatek's fault...
I get many smartphone with Mediatek's.
All of them were unbrickable...
On every others, you failed your installation, you opened SP Flashtool and reinstalled the previous Rom.
No code were needed.
If you really do a crappy work, you had to reinstall IMEI in addition...that's all.
But hardbrick was totally impossible on any other Mediatek's device I used.
Then comes the problem of developpers...maybe they had to change their mind...yes maybe it's harder...yes maybe they will have less help...
But the other chipmaker's behavior is too dangerous to keep this situation.
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This is getting so disapointing. I bought the phone thinking it will have normal development just like any other big android brand. I feel bad for getting a xiaomi phone
I shouldn't trust xiaomi. It's a pitty what they do to their customers.

ariber14 said:
This is getting so disapointing. I bought the phone thinking it will have normal development just like any other big android brand. I feel bad for getting a xiaomi phone
I shouldn't trust xiaomi. It's a pitty what they do to their customers.
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Since when does Xiaomi claim to support custom roms from the community with any of their phones??

Xiaomi Redmi Note 8T seems nice enough.. It has Qualcomm chip in it. Should people with Pro switch to that for example? Or perhaps Xiaomi Redmi K30, Realme X2 or Oppo K5 ....
Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro seems great because of specs but MIUI really sucks ass, and like ariber14, i too bought this phone in belief of getting a custom rom to it sooner or later. :/

RenatoNismo said:
thank you, I said the same thing month and half ago and nobody listened me.
mediatek is just a waste of time for any development: customs and gcam
move on and buy Redmi Note 8 or Mi9 Lite or Mi 9T, they do have too many developments and working gcam without need of hard working like wyroczen, and nobody will waste money or dismount for unbricking.
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I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.

I am still using Redmi Note 2, my next phone will be Snapdragon only, no more bullsh* of development like customs, gcam, bootloader and xiaomi.eu etc. etc.
in 2015 Helio X10 was promising like G90T was at the launch date, as always like the whole story of every mediatek devices, RN2 was enough for me to learn lesson, but it's good for daily use, even without customs neither gcam which I need, I could waited for months and paid more money for redmi note 3 pro, it's still being developed.
my gf's Redmi 5 is 2 years old cheapest, is being updated and has gcam night sight working better than rn8pro

Halasir said:
I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
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I just got my OnePlus 5T working so I'll be using that as my daily and my Moto X4 for music. I'll probably keep this until next July and sell it so i can pool in some cash from my bonus and get whatever the flagship OnePlus out at that point. But if i was to make a purchase now, I'll probably avoid XIAOMI altogether. I've been looking into the ROG phone 2 specially since it's not expensive comparing to some other flagships. I'll probably go for that.

Halasir said:
I agree with @RenatoNismo and @Helhound0. It's a shame because the Redmi Note 8 Pro is so powerful and a great value proposition, but it's so easy to brick, and Custom ROM development is looking so unlikely now, that it's a real deal-breaker for me.
@RenatoNismo and @Helhound0, which phone do you plan to buy next? The MI 9 Lite and Redmi Note 8 both have Custom ROMS already, and look like good value propositions too, but I'm a bit discouraged by the fact that either of them are going to feel like a "downgrade", now that I've experienced the Redmi Note 8 Pro (i.e. they have weaker chipsets, and in the case of the MI 9 Lite, I'm worried about burn-in unless I really "babysit" it and use low brightness).
Do either of you feel like you would be conceding/downgrading by choosing one of these phones, or is the freedom, flexibility and Custom ROM-friendliness of these phones "worth it" to you?
I would have also considered the Realme 5 Pro or Realme X2, but at the moment, it seems to be impossible to unlock the bootloader for European devices, which of course, makes them not an option for Custom ROMS either.
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It's not, especially when you can just flash a GSI to it.
I have gotten Havoc to work via GSI.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...uide-how-to-unlock-root-flash-gsi-to-t4037403

Question Oneplus 9 pro worth it

Is the oneplus 9 pro any good as was going to buy one and they have told me to go buy a Samsung or pixel phone instead as they are cheap Chinese phones same as oppos so not sure if to buy or not any advice would be great please if to buy or not

I moved from Samsung to OP this year. OP 9 Pro and love it.

Someone told me on a telegram group that they are cheap Chinese phones I have galaxy s10 lite at minute need upgrade but not sure what

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I moved from Samsung to OP this year. OP 9 Pro and love it.
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I got tired of waiting for Samsung not allowing bootloader to be unlocked. I like custom fonts systemwide and custom bootanimation.

Hi, Here's recent similar thread comments:
Also the 9 Pro is an overall great device for my usage...
One plus 9 pro worth buying ?
Looking at upgrading and was wondering if it's worth buying a oneplus 9 Pro what is battery life like how long it last
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Was looking at custom roms for oneplus 9 pro but it looks confusing wouldn't no where to start

The only flagship Samsung I would reccomend is the N10+ Snapdragon if you can live without a variable refresh rate display and 5G. These features have caused many problems since their implementation including outright hardware failures.
The OP phones are a viable alternative if you want a newer flagship. None of the new Samsung flagships have expandable storage and suffer from poor design balance. You may want to wait 6-8 months and see what comes next if you can. Waiting costs you nothing. It gives you more and better user input of existing models.

I was looking at s22 plus but not really sure but oneplus 9 pro was the phone I was going to get until I got told don't buy it

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I was looking at s22 plus but not really sure but oneplus 9 pro was the phone I was going to get until I got told don't buy it
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I left a Galaxy Note 10 for this OP 9 Pro and have not had any regrets....staying on stock OOS11, tried the 12 and didn't like it for the bugs and downgraded back to eleven.

Jason6416 said:
I was looking at s22 plus but not really sure but oneplus 9 pro was the phone I was going to get until I got told don't buy it
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The 9 pro is a great phone. Lots of customization, the screen is really nice, and the camera is awesome too. IDK if you're into rooting and custom roms but there's a ton of options with that too (which you can't really get on Samsung phones.) To say that these are just cheap Chinese phones just isn't true.

Someone told me that the phone was constantly rebooting itself so that's why they told me not to go with it as they said software is not good I have a s10 lite at minute and need a new phone

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The 9 pro is a great phone. Lots of customization, the screen is really nice, and the camera is awesome too. IDK if you're into rooting and custom roms but there's a ton of options with that too (which you can't really get on Samsung phones.) To say that these are just cheap Chinese phones just isn't true.
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I've looked at the custon roms but they seem a little complicated not too sure I have a laptop to do it but not sure if I would

Jason6416 said:
I've looked at the custon roms but they seem a little complicated not too sure I have a laptop to do it but not sure if I would
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It isn't a necessity to use custom roms, you can make similar modifications to the stock rom. If you read the instructions very carefully not much can go wrong, and if something does you're almost always able to recover it with msmtool

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Someone told me that the phone was constantly rebooting itself so that's why they told me not to go with it as they said software is not good I have a s10 lite at minute and need a new phone
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Aw, go for it....

Jason6416 said:
Someone told me that the phone was constantly rebooting itself so that's why they told me not to go with it as they said software is not good I have a s10 lite at minute and need a new phone
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That was one person, no telling if the constant rebooting was due to something he did....hummm

So will I notice a difference to what I'm using now ( samsung s10 lite ) just don't want to make bad choice

What do you want from a phone????? Features etc!!!

Just something for social media and general Internet

Then go for the OP 9 Pro.....good choice...my wife uses the FitBit sense watch connected to her phone OP9P....

TheGhost1951 said:
Then go for the OP 9 Pro.....good choice...my wife uses the FitBit sense watch connected to her phone OP9P....
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How long you have op9pro is battery life good