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[Q] Nexus 7 for Xmas now rooted (noob) but help needed

Hi all,
I got a nexus 7 for Xmas. It's my first Android device but I did have a Dell axim a number of years ago and played around with roms.
I am a happy iOS user but wanted to have a look at Android as it is quite mature now.
So I have rooted my nexus and I wanted ask a few questions
1 I have created a backup using rom manager. Is this a nandoid backup?
2 is it necessary to get rom manager pro? What does the paid version do extra?
3 are any roms available that are based on 4.4 or is it too early?
4 what is the best network media streamer? I have xbmc on my apple TV and I know I can install on my nexus. But should I or are there better options?
5 how do you transfer movies to the nexus? Via USB to the movie folder?
Thanks for any tips. Apologies for the noob questions!

I never used Rom manager so I cannot help you with those questions.
Regarding the other ones, there are many Roms based on 4.4 to 4.4.2 KitKat and for 4.4.2 I would recommend Clean ROM 2.6. Boosts performance and leaves the Tablet almost stock.
The only media streamer I know is XBMC so I cannot recomend anything else.
Once rooted you can drag and drop videos to anywhere you like I believe.

I use Archos Video Player to stream smb shares from my pc. It makes thumbnails for you and has a nice ui.
Sent from my SM-N900P using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Thanks all.
Just found that sky go doesn't work on rooted devices. I thought this was a iOS jailbreak issue!
Any workarounds for this problem for Android?

In superSu hide the root, some apps then work, others remain disabled as is probably a DRM issue which os mire likely because of the unlock
Enviado desde mi Nexus 5 mediante Tapatalk

OK thanks. Very annoying though! I will see if I can find a solution

jago.taylor said:
Hi all,
I got a nexus 7 for Xmas. It's my first Android device but I did have a Dell axim a number of years ago and played around with roms.
I am a happy iOS user but wanted to have a look at Android as it is quite mature now.
So I have rooted my nexus and I wanted ask a few questions
1 I have created a backup using rom manager. Is this a nandoid backup?
2 is it necessary to get rom manager pro? What does the paid version do extra?
3 are any roms available that are based on 4.4 or is it too early?
4 what is the best network media streamer? I have xbmc on my apple TV and I know I can install on my nexus. But should I or are there better options?
5 how do you transfer movies to the nexus? Via USB to the movie folder?
Thanks for any tips. Apologies for the noob questions!
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1 Yes
2 I would get Rom Toolbox, instead. More features.
3 Lots. Check out the N7 development threads.
Sent from my Nexus 7

Thanks. I'll take a look at rom toolbox.
I have a more general question about whether I really need to root my device. I think I can still install roms without being rooted. Correct?
I find it annoying that apps such as sky go detect rooted devices and you end up in a battle to get these apps working!
when do you need to root? What is the use case (apart from side loading pirated apps that I am not interested in)
Thanks

Welcome to Android...
jago.taylor said:
Thanks. I'll take a look at rom toolbox.
I have a more general question about whether I really need to root my device. I think I can still install roms without being rooted. Correct?
I find it annoying that apps such as sky go detect rooted devices and you end up in a battle to get these apps working!
when do you need to root? What is the use case (apart from side loading pirated apps that I am not interested in)
Thanks
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Root is an essential part of the Android experience, especially if you want to use everything Android has to offer. You will not be able to flash custom ROMs without having Root. Now I have Rom Manager Pro and I can tell you that when I first started out with Android that app what a lifesaver for me. However, now that I have a bit more experience with ROMs and Recovery Manager I would urge you start learning how to use your recovery manager. Did you install a custom recovery manager when you rooted your Nexus device? If you did not look into installing TWRP Recovery Manager. You can do everything from that Recovery Manager that you can pretty much do with Rom Manager such as make backups. The one great thing about Rom Manager is that it will identify your device and list some Nice ROM's that are available for your specific device. As for root again, some of the best apps available for Android require Root access. Apps like "complete linux installer" which allows you to put Linux on your tablet. Another great app is "titanium backup" this is an app that you will definitely want to buy the pro version. Support your developers! Titanium backup allows you to make a nice backup of all your apps and your user data. Gotten to level 40 on dead trigger 2? An update breaks your favorite app...with Titanium Backup you could restore an older version of an app and even restore your status within a game such as bringing you back to level 40 in the example of dead trigger 2 that i used...which has cloud but it was an example!
Oh one app you should seriously get for your stock Nexus 7 ROM is "quickboot". Quickboot which needs ROOT allows your to reboot your tablet, reboot into recovery mode, and reboot into the bootloader with just one click of a button. This app will truly come in handy on a regular basis...
Now you asked about ROMs...
Of course we have to mention Cyanogenmod! This is being considered the "Cadillac" of ROM's and seems to be a very favorite choice among people starting out with Android to among the most advanced "power users" of Android.
I have tried "Ice Cold Rom Project" and i like that ROM very much...
Another ROM that I can't wait to try out is the "unofficial" OmniROM Project for the Nexus 7. Now this ROM is supposed to support Multi-Windows. Have you seen the Multi-Windows commercials for the Galaxy S4? Supposedly the "unofficial" OmniROM project has made that available for the Nexus 7 and i can't wait to try it out! I will be flashing this Monday...
Here is a link for that ROM on XDA -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533936
Lastly...
You mentioned that one of your apps is not working correctly because your device is rooted? While this has never happened to me personally I don't doubt that it could happen but not exactly sure why root access would cause an app to stop working. Here is something you could try...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amphoras.hidemyrootadfree
That link above is to an app called "hide my root" that one is the paid version but there is a free one just do a search on the Google Play Store. What it does is hides root or blocks root for taking place for a given period of time. If root really is the problem for that app then this might help as you can block root and then try starting the app...
Well congrats on coming over to Android! I think once you get the hang of things you will never go back to the iOS (maybe!). Android is such an amazing project and operating system but it would not be a quarter of what it is without all of these people here on XDA. The people here are what make Android great and what make the open source community great!. Keep playing with Android and don't worry about taking risks with your tablet. If you make a backup of your ROM you can always flash back your stock ROM as long as you can boot into your Recovery Manager. If you can't there is a way to push a stock ROM to your tablet with ADB. It is almost impossible to brick your Nexus device but still don't make ridiculous mistakes such as not making your backups!
Oh...
Yes you can transfer data from your tablet to your PC in a number of ways. One way is with a USB cable but you need to have the correct drivers installed. Do a google search for USB drivers for your Nexus device and you will find the correct ones you need. Another option that you could use is FTP. The Google Play Store has some great "FTP SERVER" apps which allow you to turn your tablet into an FTP Server. You could then download an FTP client on your PC such as "FileZilla" and log into your Android Tablet and start transferring or downloading files.
I hope this has been helpful for you...
-droidshadow

Thanks driodshadow
I have rom manager, Clockworkmod touch and titanium backup installed. Now I see lots of references to twrp. Is twrp doing the same job as Cwm? Is twrp a better solution?
Looks like I will try to stay rooted but I need to find a Solution to this issue with sky go. I have read that hide my root does not fix sky go. Root detection is getting better!
Thanks again for all your help

jago.taylor said:
... rom manager, Clockworkmod touch and titanium backup installed. Now I see lots of references to twrp. Is twrp doing the same job as Cwm? Is twrp a better solution?...
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I prefer TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Too many problems with RM, CWM, and TB.
Sent from my Nexus 7

PhilipTD said:
I prefer TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Too many problems with RM, CWM, and TB.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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I actually find CWM better than TWRP, though I will admit I like the TWRP layout and design better. TWRP asked me for a password when I tried to restore after a softbrick on my N7, I couldn't access my TWRP backup even though I could get into the relevant directory.
After some research I found that this was due to how the boot-loader had been unlocked, however I did it correctly (actually followed an XDA tutorial just to be sure), so I have been a bit put off TWRP because when I really needed it, it didn't work.

purephysics said:
I actually find CWM better than TWRP, though I will admit I like the TWRP layout and design better. TWRP asked me for a password when I tried to restore after a softbrick on my N7, I couldn't access my TWRP backup even though I could get into the relevant directory.
After some research I found that this was due to how the boot-loader had been unlocked, however I did it correctly (actually followed an XDA tutorial just to be sure), so I have been a bit put off TWRP because when I really needed it, it didn't work.
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Maybe give it another try. You can make a CWM backup first, just in case.
I used CWM, RM, and TB on my N1 from the beginning, without problems. Then, a couple of years ago, they all started to wonk out from time to time, so I switched to TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Never have a problem. But maybe I should give the others another try, too.
Sent from my Nexus 7

PhilipTD said:
Maybe give it another try.
I used CWM, RM, and TB on my N1 from the beginning, without problems. Then, a couple of years ago, they all started to wonk out from time to time, so I switched to TWRP and Rom Toolbox. Never have a problem. But maybe I should give the others another try, too.
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I've decided to stick to CWM on my N7, mainly because I know it and I wanted a recovery I was familiar with while playing around with stuff like Xposed modules. I did like TWRP, I'll probably flash that on my phone over CWM and see how that goes.
I swear by Rom Toolbox, major props to the Dev(s) for that bad boy.

[Q] Need Help Creating a flashable ROM

So, I have been attempting this on my own for a couple weeks with little to no luck, and searching XDA hasn't really been fruitful, so I thought I would ask.
So I work in Tech Services at the library at my local university. My team is in charge of electronic equipment loans, and recently purchased 20 Galaxy Tab 3 10.1s for student checkout. What I am trying to do is make a straight factory ROM that is flashable through TWRP but with a set of 3 e-book apps added into system apps. The 3 apps I need added are Kindle, Overdrive Media Console, and Bluefire Reader (it is after all, a library). Doesn't need to be rooted or anything, but to speed up turn-around time, it would be nice if it would wipe data automatically as part of the flashing process so we don't have to worry about peoples passwords or account info being compromised. I have tried many different things, but can't seem to get A: the apps added correctly (they install but FC as soon as I try to open them) and B: a script added that would wipe before flashing the ROM. As far as I can tell through my research, it might be possible, but far beyond my skill and knowledge levels. Honestly, I am not even sure if flashing through recovery is the best solution. I have looked at Samsung Configurator as well as many 3rd party MDM tools and none of them seem to be able to do what I want. Possibly something that could be flashed through Odin?
Any thoughts, suggestions, advise, help, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
Moderators: If this needs to be moved, feel free to do so. I wasn't sure where it belonged, but figured this would be okay.
Thanks everyone!
Edit: Don't know if it matters, but they are Wifi only models.

karlkarloff said:
So, I have been attempting this on my own for a couple weeks with little to no luck, and searching XDA hasn't really been fruitful, so I thought I would ask.
So I work in Tech Services at the library at my local university. My team is in charge of electronic equipment loans, and recently purchased 20 Galaxy Tab 3 10.1s for student checkout. What I am trying to do is make a straight factory ROM that is flashable through TWRP but with a set of 3 e-book apps added into system apps. The 3 apps I need added are Kindle, Overdrive Media Console, and Bluefire Reader (it is after all, a library). Doesn't need to be rooted or anything, but to speed up turn-around time, it would be nice if it would wipe data automatically as part of the flashing process so we don't have to worry about peoples passwords or account info being compromised. I have tried many different things, but can't seem to get A: the apps added correctly (they install but FC as soon as I try to open them) and B: a script added that would wipe before flashing the ROM. As far as I can tell through my research, it might be possible, but far beyond my skill and knowledge levels. Honestly, I am not even sure if flashing through recovery is the best solution. I have looked at Samsung Configurator as well as many 3rd party MDM tools and none of them seem to be able to do what I want. Possibly something that could be flashed through Odin?
Any thoughts, suggestions, advise, help, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
Moderators: If this needs to be moved, feel free to do so. I wasn't sure where it belonged, but figured this would be okay.
Thanks everyone!
Edit: Don't know if it matters, but they are Wifi only models.
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Just off the top of my head...this is what I would do.
Root the tabs (probably need to install custom recovery for that, but I'm not sure since I don't follow the 10 in forum).
Install Titanium Backup
Install the 3 apps that you want to make as "system" apps (install as any normal app).
Use Titanium backup to "convert to system app" (this will place app in the /system/app" directory).
Uninstall Titanium Backup and use the unroot option in SuperSu.
This should leave you those 3 apps installed as system apps.
You can then, perform a factory reset when the Tabs are returned and still have those apps available. Factory reset does not wipe the system partition, so the apps will remain.

Thanks! I will definitely try that!

[Q] Sprint Note 2 rootted stock now an update nag

Device Info: Sprint Galaxy Note 2 Running rooted stock Android 4.4.2. (chainfire auto root using odin)
Wifi only unit. I have no sprint contract purchased it used (I'm new to customizing android- I have flashed an old palm pda, but only via guidance)
Situation: Rooted the unit and have customized it as mine
1. No custom backup and would like to do that
2. Do not like all the bloatware apps
3. Now a system update has been downloaded asking to install (I've not okayed it)
So please help me with each of these
1. Please point me in the direction of best way to take a backup of existing rom ( I do have philz downloaded, but I'm not sure about how to ?
2. Would that deal with the persistent update request? Would it be good to update?
3. and then the bloatware removal, should I use an app that removes system apps? ( I have titanium, but I'm not good at knowing which apps to touch and not to touch) Thanks in advance and no I'm not in a hurry as yet.

Hi,
I will have your thread moved to your device section so the experts who own your device can help you.
Good luck!

Point to links please
If someone doesn't want to tackle this whole question I'd just appreciate links on how to step by step. I'd appreciate any help at all, I'm just a bit fearful of bricking the device, but if the instructions are clear I can definitely do this.
The first is issue is backup that is my priority at the moment. The second is whether to install the update or not and how to get rid of the nag. thanks

Not sure about backing up the ROM itself... but what I do is just back up the apps with Titanium and then re-load the apps (or just data) when I have to re-install my ROM like I did a couple of weeks ago. Prior to the Note II, I had an HTC Hero (stop laughing) and would do nandroids for that device. Don't know that you need that for Samsung devices, but somebody may be better to explain than I am.
ETA: here's an article on creating a nandroid, FWIW
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-a-nandroid-backup-and-how-exactly-does-it-work/
If you are rooted, I don't know that the persistent update will actually apply/install. I'm on Classic Stock 4.4.2 and I also had the same nag. Here's a link on how to disable the update nag. This is what I did, as my phone would not apply the update so I just disabled the persistent reminder using the steps below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442207
With respect to removing system apps, not sure I can offer much direction other than to suggest removing obvious apps (maybe like the Sprint Zone app) and then just doing a search on each app that looks like you can/want to delete or uninstall. Probably a bit time consuming, however, I am not aware of a "bloatware list" or anything which outlines safe-to-remove apps.

Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!

lost in cyberspace said:
Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
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You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10

lennykravitz2004 said:
You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
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Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.

lost in cyberspace said:
Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
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Don't know if adb adblock is better - I've never used it. Didn't see you mention a couple of these things when you said you were "all set for awhile", so I was just trying to offer a few other things to consider and look into. Sounds like you're already on the ball though!
Personally, I'm happy with stock. Big reason for me to root was getting rid of ads. I've tried some of the other ROMs but I've always come back to the stock look and feel. I've had the device since about 1 week after it came out in Fall 2012. Of course, I am also on my third one since I totaled two other ones. I absolutely love it, and am in no hurry to upgrade (if possible). Hope you enjoy it as I have... lots of good stuff from devs here!

Very unusual "system data" storage behaviour!

I have a completely stock phone & I was using nova launcher from day one but I turned back to the default launcher today and noticed a strange data in the 'shelf'. It was showing that I have low %age of storage left. At first I thought it must be a bug but then after some time I checked the storage in settings and thereafter confirmed this using the app "DiskUsage".
Could anyone help me out here? Kindly have a look at the screenshot I'm attaching.
In short, System data is using 27.3 GB of storage!!!
I suspect it may be due to the flash that I did some time back when I returned to complete stock from a rooted OnePlus 3. Though I followed the official website instructions.
Thanks guys for reading this message & I know someone out there will know about this as I'm not that lucky to encounter a completely unique bug :good:

GravityDead said:
I have a completely stock phone & I was using nova launcher from day one but I turned back to the default launcher today and noticed a strange data in the 'shelf'. It was showing that I have low %age of storage left. At first I thought it must be a bug but then after some time I checked the storage in settings and thereafter confirmed this using the app "DiskUsage".
Could anyone help me out here? Kindly have a look at the screenshot I'm attaching.
In short, System data is using 27.3 GB of storage!!!
I suspect it may be due to the flash that I did some time back when I returned to complete stock from a rooted OnePlus 3. Though I followed the official website instructions.
Thanks guys for reading this message & I know someone out there will know about this as I'm not that lucky to encounter a completely unique bug :good:
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Latest build should fix this.. If not do a clean install and stay on the latest build. Also if the issue persists try to move to EXT4. F2fs still has loads of weird issues..

Puddi_Puddin said:
Latest build should fix this.. If not do a clean install and stay on the latest build. Also if the issue persists try to move to EXT4. F2fs still has loads of weird issues..
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Well, I got my latest .5 update yesterday and sadly it didn't solve it so I guess I have to format my phone again. Man, that's really a pain in the A. By the way, is this a common occurrence in OnePlus 3 software?
As far as ext and f2fs is concerned, I don't remember manually formatting my phone to f2fs so I guess it was nougat update which did this!
Thanks man!

GravityDead said:
Well, I got my latest .5 update yesterday and sadly it didn't solve it so I guess I have to format my phone again. Man, that's really a pain in the A. By the way, is this a common occurrence in OnePlus 3 software?
As far as ext and f2fs is concerned, I don't remember manually formatting my phone to f2fs so I guess it was nougat update which did this!
Thanks man!
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Don't know... I haven't seen this issue yet..

hmm, I'll wait till the O update for a clean install as setting up few particular apps (mostly banking & two-factor authentication) is really a boring/huge task for me, plus few apps have just NO backup solution like the now-defunct but awesome keyboard Fleksy, Adguard user filters. I really think Android needs a good global backup function to sync basic things like android settings, SMS, Call logs.
Meanwhile, if anyone know a solution which doesn't include formatting the phone, please do tell me !

GravityDead said:
hmm, I'll wait till the O update for a clean install as setting up few particular apps (mostly banking & two-factor authentication) is really a boring/huge task for me, plus few apps have just NO backup solution like the now-defunct but awesome keyboard Fleksy, Adguard user filters. I really think Android needs a good global backup function to sync basic things like android settings, SMS, Call logs.
Meanwhile, if anyone know a solution which doesn't include formatting the phone, please do tell me !
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Mm.. How about the titanium backup feature of using update.zip? Have you tried it?

djrocks said:
Mm.. How about the titanium backup feature of using update.zip? Have you tried it?
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I dont really have a clue about titanium backup. Used it once way back when I had Galaxy Note 1.
I remember, it's UI was very complex and had a big learning curve but despite all this, isn't titanium backup a root only app?

GravityDead said:
I dont really have a clue about titanium backup. Used it once way back when I had Galaxy Note 1.
I remember, it's UI was very complex and had a big learning curve but despite all this, isn't titanium backup a root only app?
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Oh right. It is a root only app... Try using rom settings backup from play store, coupled with sms backup and restore.. Does most of the job

djrocks said:
Oh right. It is a root only app... Try using rom settings backup from play store, coupled with sms backup and restore.. Does most of the job
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Sorry to break it to you but even Rom Settings Backup is root only
but thank you for telling me about this app, may come in handy if I go back to root.
and yes, I did know about the SMS and call log backup, I'm more concerned about the few specific apps like Fleksy keyboard app.
Thank you for your reply.

Google assistant is part of LinageOS..??!!

Hi all..
I have been using LinageOS for quite a while now, I love it and applaud those that have worked so hard to make such a wonderful OS.
But the main reason for using it is so I can avoid google. I have just installed Linage-18.1-20211113-nightly-beryllium-signed (I did not use the GAPPS package) and when I checked the installed apps/system, there is 2 google assistant apps.
I also rooted my mobile before installing Linage using magisk-v23-0 and disable-force-encryption=-treble, this was done through TWRP 3.3.0.0 beryllium. I mention these in case there is a possibility of these google apps coming from there, but have searched on the net and can find no evidence of this..
Anyone know anything about this? If Linage is now including google apps I am going to have to find another OS, and I really do not want to..!

Cant seem to get these google assistant apps off my phone (POCO f1). Tried every wipe I could do in TWRP, tried a port of CalyxOS, nothing will shift them.. Even when I 'force halt' they just switch themselves on again in a few minutes..
Going to try going back through the LinageOS versions and see if there is one that doesnt have them.
Nobody have an idea of how to get rid of these?

It's definitely weird, very weird (and hard to believe, if I may say so).
Using LOS ever since and never ever had such thing happening. Sometimes even putting gapps on it to try something with GSF...
Did you do a proper re-install from the scratch, just like by the book?
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/beryllium/install
Other than that, perhaps try asking in
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-official-lineageos-18-1-weeklies-for-xiaomi-poco-f1.4188235/

Hi SigmundDroid (cool handle)
Have now tried E Foundation too, every wipe I could do in TRWP, nothing will shift them, they activate a few minutes after I 'force stop' them..
Am now trying to find a way of doing a full format of the partitions as these files are like viruses..
E Foundation forum folk are also a bit startled by this, think they would like to know how to remove the files as part of the install procedure, me too..!!

Just found this;
https://pastebin.com/bf9Hh4RH
3rd and 4th line down.
When I look at the google assistant apps, the first one shows at the bottom of the screen under ‘advanced’;
Version 11
com.android.hotwordenrollment.okgoogle
The second one shows;
Version 11
com.android.hotwordenrollment.xgoogle
Not 100% sure how to use those lines, but they look to be adb commands… Any idea anyone?

Similar thread from 2017: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/google-assistant-on-lineage-os.3566187/
Of possible relevance is that it's what does the transfer of accounts and settings from your old phone in newer Android versions. I don't plan on using Google Assistant generally, but it was very handy that the Lineage setup hooked into it for transferring accounts and stuff from my "old" phone.

Ah, the plot thickens..
I do get that some folk are ok with google, but not me.. Would still very much like to get rid of them. Also, those that are making google-free roms would no doubt want them gone too, can hardly be google-free with those hiding deep in the moby..

Did you clear the system partition? Some ROM install packages run an addon.d script to retain Gapps and other stuff. Of course LineageOS does not contain any Google stuff, only AOSP. So there is just another logical explanation for this. If you want to be sure, look in the LineageOS image yourself.

Apologies.. Looks like I had not made it clear, I do not now think Linage, or Calyx or E-foundation have google assistant in them.. They seem to be remnants on the phone, probably from the original rom.
But they will not easily be removed and so remain regardless of which custom rom subsequently ends up on the phone.
Am hoping someone way smarter than me can work out how to get rid of them, also hoping it will help others achieve the same..

fastesteddy13 said:
Just found this;
https://pastebin.com/bf9Hh4RH
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Hmm, there is not much of an explanation what it does - looks like uninstalling a lot of bloatware.
Quigley said:
logical explanation for this
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I concur with @Quigley and we shall find it.
fastesteddy13 said:
Tried every wipe I could do in TWRP
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Which ones? (you can do screenshots in TWRP with power + vol down)
I guess we can assume you did the mandatory
Now tap Factory Reset, then Format data / factory reset and continue with the formatting process
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Plus what @Quigley said:
Quigley said:
Did you clear the system partition?
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Did you?
https://www.addictivetips.com/mobil...plained-boot-system-recovery-data-cache-misc/
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fastesteddy13 said:
SigmundDroid (cool handle)
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Zank you! I zink your teflon is in love wiz your moza

fastesteddy13 said:
Apologies.. Looks like I had not made it clear, I do not now think Linage, or Calyx or E-foundation have google assistant in them.. They seem to be remnants on the phone, probably from the original rom.
But they will not easily be removed and so remain regardless of which custom rom subsequently ends up on the phone.
Am hoping someone way smarter than me can work out how to get rid of them, also hoping it will help others achieve the same..
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One other thing: it can also be the product partition. Gapps are normally included in the product image in the original firmware. Did you wipe that one as well?

Its still in LOS 19.1 , despite years of complaints. Starting to look like they keep it in there on purpose, no option to uninstall, disable is greyed out..... SKETCH!

Same for Lineage 20 on my OnePlus 7T Pro. "google free" system ...
Is there an explanation somewhere why the apps are permanently and indelibly integrated? Why is there almost nothing about this on the net?
The .apks are 100% in the lineage images. You can verifiy this by yourself, if you want.
They are located in the product.img under priv-app.
EDIT:
deGoogle LineageOS 20.0 (tested on Oneplus 8T 'kebab' kb2003) - Luc
How to get rid of G-Services from your Android phone running LineageOS completly.
lucdev.net
Well ...
I used now App Manager (F_droid) and uninstall it.