Hey guys,
What do you think of this review.
I was chocked about the buttons that pop up so easily ?
Sauce :
If a phone has to be destroyed, I'd rather have it done for scientific purposes instead of just for views for some bald jabroni.
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If a phone has to be destroyed, I'd rather have it done for scientific purposes instead of just for views for some bald jabroni.
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Lol, jabroni.
As soon as I saw that I knew I had a yinzer on my hands. He's beyond a jabroni, he's a chooch jag off!
I agree no need to do such things, it's a colossal waste.
I actually enjoy his videos. It's not as if he sawing it in half or putting it in a microwave or other stupid things people do. He's actually testing the device. Is it a little more exteme then what normal usage might bring? Yea, but it's nothing way out and I appreciate seeing what exactly my phone can handle and all that, especially compared to other phones.
As for this video, I can't lie and say i wasn't disappointed with how the U12+ did. Especially with seeing how those buttons popped off. And as someone who tears down phones all the time, hearing him question it's water resistance was also a little disconcerting. It's not going to stop me from buying this phone but one of the reasons I like HTC phones are because of the build quality. But seeing this do worse than how other phones faired and hearing his concerns did disappoint me.
And I wouldn't jump all over this guy for what he said about the phone. His videos aren't necessarily pure opinion. While he does give some opinions on how he think a phone will fare in certain conditions, it's all based on his testing and how the phone itself handled it and what he finds in his tear downs. That's all. If you got the U12+ and enjoy, even love it and think it's the best phone ever, then that's all that matters. Don't get too worked up over what others say.
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Lol, jabroni.
As soon as I saw that I knew I had a yinzer on my hands. He's beyond a jabroni, he's a chooch jag off!
I agree no need to do such things, it's a colossal waste.
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Ya got me n'at. That's my point though, if I'm going to want to see a tear down (which I do, because I want to see what sort of vibration system HTC has employed here), I'll wait for a proper, scientific one from iFixit (who doesn't have one as of yet).
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I actually enjoy his videos. It's not as if he sawing it in half or putting it in a microwave or other stupid things people do. He's actually testing the device. Is it a little more exteme then what normal usage might bring? Yea, but it's nothing way out and I appreciate seeing what exactly my phone can handle and all that, especially compared to other phones.
As for this video, I can't lie and say i wasn't disappointed with how the U12+ did. Especially with seeing how those buttons popped off. And as someone who tears down phones all the time, hearing him question it's water resistance was also a little disconcerting. It's not going to stop me from buying this phone but one of the reasons I like HTC phones are because of the build quality. But seeing this do worse than how other phones faired and hearing his concerns did disappoint me.
And I wouldn't jump all over this guy for what he said about the phone. His videos aren't necessarily pure opinion. While he does give some opinions on how he think a phone will fare in certain conditions, it's all based on his testing and how the phone itself handled it and what he finds in his tear downs. That's all. If you got the U12+ and enjoy, even love it and think it's the best phone ever, then that's all that matters. Don't get too worked up over what others say.
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My gripe comes from his methodology and the fact that there are some who are still waiting for their phones. Seeing one destroyed in a non-scientific matter irks me. (Though the screen scratch testing, I have to give props to.) I can't see any day to day use where my device would come into direct contact with open flame or a utility knife.
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Ya got me n'at. That's my point though, if I'm going to want to see a tear down (which I do, because I want to see what sort of vibration system HTC has employed here), I'll wait for a proper, scientific one from iFixit (who doesn't have one as of yet).
My gripe comes from his methodology and the fact that there are some who are still waiting for their phones. Seeing one destroyed in a non-scientific matter irks me. (Though the screen scratch testing, I have to give props to.) I can't see any day to day use where my device would come into direct contact with open flame or a utility knife.
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I still don't have mine yet. Supposed to come today, we'll see.
I'd like to see an in depth tear down too since I'm sure I'll probably break the back glass at some point. I'm in highway construction and I'm brutal to my phones.
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Ya got me n'at. That's my point though, if I'm going to want to see a tear down (which I do, because I want to see what sort of vibration system HTC has employed here), I'll wait for a proper, scientific one from iFixit (who doesn't have one as of yet).
My gripe comes from his methodology and the fact that there are some who are still waiting for their phones. Seeing one destroyed in a non-scientific matter irks me. (Though the screen scratch testing, I have to give props to.) I can't see any day to day use where my device would come into direct contact with open flame or a utility knife.
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It is non-scientific, but he does this for all of the new releases. So it's interesting to see how all of the new flagships stack up to one another regarding durability. At least it did better than the U11+ though.
The teardown of the U12+:
I'm a big fan of HTC but I'm no apologist either. That was rough to watch. Things that would normally be so simple to replace on a phone are causing this phone to basically become a paperweight if damaged. At the price they're selling this at, all these "little" things become that much more bigger.
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2 weeks and is broken!
I had this thing for not more that 2 weeks and the speaker is broken
T-mobile is sending replacement tomorrow, but this is disappointing from HTC
Only this time i will put screen protector from day one.... the screen is not exactly scratch resistant.
If we add the battery performance andddd this is not exactly Desire
How'd you break it?
I work in mobile sales and deal with people like you on a daily basis, "i've only had it 2 weeks and its all scratched/part A broken/ its really slow/ battery life rubbish" I have had my desire for nearly 2 months with no scratches, the screen is as scratch resistant as most touch devices - as in don't stick it somewhere its gonna get scratched- pockets with keys - and you'll be fine. Try and remember how much these devices cost and treat them with respect. If your unfamiliar with Android/smartphones/computers then don't complain if it doesn't work as you'd expect as you have no knowledge or experience to base it on and have more than likely done something wrong, lastly battery life on all touch devices is poor when compared to older mobiles - WE ALL KNOW THIS BY NOW!! - learn how to use power management features and apps such as juice defender, be aware that lithium ion battery life will improve within the first month if used properly and finally if you don't know these things then USE GOOGLE FFS!! This is a forum for android general discussions not to pointlessly whine when you can't look after your own phone! END OF RANT
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It's all scratched up and broken after only two weeks? Unless you work in construction or something you REALLY need to learn how to treat your devices or stick to something more play school. It's an expensive high tech device, it's not a rubber coated brick. It's a small computer with a 3.7 inch GLASS screen... learn how to treat it.
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Try and remember how much these devices cost and treat them with respect.
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This.
People are the same with laptops.. just because its portable it doesn't mean its not a fragile bit of modern tech.
Did I miss something in HTC's advertising? Where does it say its scratch resistant?
And you have had it 2 weeks, the battery should only just be starting to reach its peak performance.
I don't wish to appear cynical but all your statements point to the fact that you don't look after your phone and have limited knowledge about it, I'm not surprised your speaker has broken. Count yourself really lucky HTC are giving you a second chance.
Lol.. lucky their speaker broke, that sounds like a genuine fault.
I have to admit I think the speaker is of bad quality. Bloody built in obsolescence imo
Lucky you are getting a replacement.
Mine has dust under the screen, this is not something I could have done myself, not that amount of dust in that specific place after 2 weeks (I've had the phone longer but it's been there for 2 weeks).
T-Mobile wont do anything, even though the Nexus One has the same issue.
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I work in mobile sales and deal with people like you on a daily basis, "i've only had it 2 weeks and its all scratched/part A broken/ its really slow/ battery life rubbish" I have had my desire for nearly 2 months with no scratches, the screen is as scratch resistant as most touch devices - as in don't stick it somewhere its gonna get scratched- pockets with keys - and you'll be fine. Try and remember how much these devices cost and treat them with respect. If your unfamiliar with Android/smartphones/computers then don't complain if it doesn't work as you'd expect as you have no knowledge or experience to base it on and have more than likely done something wrong, lastly battery life on all touch devices is poor when compared to older mobiles - WE ALL KNOW THIS BY NOW!! - learn how to use power management features and apps such as juice defender, be aware that lithium ion battery life will improve within the first month if used properly and finally if you don't know these things then USE GOOGLE FFS!! This is a forum for android general discussions not to pointlessly whine when you can't look after your own phone! END OF RANT
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This.
People are the same with laptops.. just because its portable it doesn't mean its not a fragile bit of modern tech.
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It's all scratched up and broken after only two weeks? Unless you work in construction or something you REALLY need to learn how to treat your devices or stick to something more play school. It's an expensive high tech device, it's not a rubber coated brick. It's a small computer with a 3.7 inch GLASS screen... learn how to treat it.
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Agreed to all.
I have had iPhones, HTC HD2, Hero etc and never scratched one of them. I don't use screen protectors or cases, I don't need them as I put the phones in my pocket without my keys in that pocket. My left one is for my phone, my right for everything else.
Unless you have had a dodgy unit that is made of plastic, I'd have to say its probably down to how you are storing it!
Good luck with your second one
Hmm interesting replies...
I was driving from work and my sat nav suddenly went muted ant that’s it. When i shake the device the speaker works on and off... so for me this is dodgy speaker
About the scratches... Its only one tiny scratch caused by my PLASTIC button on my pocket ...
Could be anything, a bit of sand in your pocket and you're screen is full of scratches. Pouch and screen protector all the way! Or pay around 400 euro's (directly or indirectly) and don't care what happens to those 400 euro's.
Anyway, there are always devices that can have some problems like a broken speaker or something.
Try reading a forum about whatever device, and there are always the same 'stories' like yours. Maybe it's because we're promised perfection which is impossible. But perhaps it's we all want to have perfection and don't know that's impossible anymore. But! There is a reason warranty exists... sometimes things break. No matter what product.
Shame they cant get on at them about updating it as well LOL
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2123891/motorolas-defy-advert-banned-asa
3 complaints resulted in a ban - ridiculous. Compared to millions of complaints that people in the government are not doing their job.
Got a Headache? It's all in your Head.
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3 complaints resulted in a ban - ridiculous. Compared to millions of complaints that people in the government are not doing their job.
Got a Headache? It's all in your Head.
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I actually support the verdict..when they state in the advertisement that the handset can do a particular thing, the handset should live up to it..defy's add really exaggerates the reality as there are many people whose defy's screen broke after falling for a couple of feet..so fair!!
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defy's ad really exaggerates the reality as there are many people whose defy's screen broke after falling for a couple of feet..so fair!!
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It's not unique to the Defy, though - you can break any smartphone's screen if you drop it on a hard surface and it lands the right (wrong) way. It's not that the Defy has a fragile screen, it's just that it isn't as tough as the advert suggested. If they'd just stuck to saying that it was scratch resistant then they'd have been OK. But (a) that wouldn't have made such a dramatic and eye-catching scene, and (b) advertising people probably don't understand the difference between "scratch resistant" and "indestuctible"!
The ASA is fast becoming known for its absurd over-reach. But, here's one of best from this group of idiots:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/suzy-shuster/british-watchdog-group-re_b_499476.html
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It's not unique to the Defy, though - you can break any smartphone's screen if you drop it on a hard surface and it lands the right (wrong) way. It's not that the Defy has a fragile screen, it's just that it isn't as tough as the advert suggested. If they'd just stuck to saying that it was scratch resistant then they'd have been OK. But (a) that wouldn't have made such a dramatic and eye-catching scene, and (b) advertising people probably don't understand the difference between "scratch resistant" and "indestuctible"!
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thats exactly what i was trying to say...i am no expert, but i dun believe that the screen does any better than any other handset's screen if it falls..and if it is "supposed" to break after falling on a hard surface, they shouldn't show it as "indestructible" in the advt..
Well, if you want to get totally anal about this (which is what the ASA purports to do), the way the phone is depicted in the video is exactly the way mine has fallen -- and on stone and rocks -- several times and survived w/o so much as a scratch. Honestly, I've been impressed with its ruggedness.
The ASA has also ruled that you cannot have a photo of the Wailing Wall and say "Hi, from Jerusalem"; it has to say "Hi, from the occupied territories!" (Agree or not, isn't a bit arrogant of a non-governmental advertising watch dog to be making foreign policy?)
Best of all is when the organization "Save Darfur" was challenged by the European Sudanese Public Affairs Council (an arm of the same government killing Sudanese) saying that it was "false advertising" to use the figure of 400k killed and missing. Since this exact figure could not be proven, the ASA came out in favor of the European Sudanese Public Affairs Council.
Honestly, I don't give a **** what they say about my phone or anything else. I take it upon myself, as a responsible human being, to know not to break my own phone.
Okay guys.
So I just got my 4S back from these guys, and wow, I am honestly amazed.
I saw them on my local news a few days ago, and figured what the hell. Apparently they put your phone through a process that binds their product on a molecular level, and makes it "waterproof" I didn't think it'd work as good as in the videos but it really does.
Essentially what happens is, you pay and ship your phone to them. Within a day of receiving it, they treat your phone and send it back. (can do the express version for 10$ more)
I sent my phone in on a monday, received it back on that thursday. I then decided to put it to the test. filled up my sink (about a foot and a half deep), closed my eyes, and submerged my 4s. To my astonishment, I opened my eyes and the screen was still on! I was even able to type a message to my girlfriend telling her I was texting her from underwater xD
I then answered a call in the shower the next morning and all worked fine! Its been a week since Ive gotten my phone back and have done the sink trick countless times to impress my friends, and it still works like new hehe. just thought id share, seeing as a good waterproof case for the 4s is about 20$ more.
http://www.liquipel.com
edit: I figured the accessories thread was the best place, let me know if you feel otherwise ;P
heres a good demo i found of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtsSPZCGmuY
Yeh looks good but a pretty short list of approved devices. No SGSII for a start
killall said:
Yeh looks good but a pretty short list of approved devices. No SGSII for a start
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try emailing them? I thought i read somewhere on there site that they can usually make accommodations for devices not on the list..
And they JUST started taking orders at CES, so they should expand the supported devices soon if theyre doing this good. pretty great start imo xD
Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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Ah. Well that might be a problem then xD
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Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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It said it was a mail in program... international mail... phone back in like 3 weeks lol
edit:The following devices are approved to be Liquipelled:
Apple iPhone 4s
Apple iPhone 4
Apple iPhone 3g/s
HTC Evo 4G
HTC Evo Shift 4G
HTC MyTouch 4G
HTC Thunderbolt
Motorola Droid X/X2
Samsung Charge
Wow that is amazing!!
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My understanding is they coat internals of phones & simply keeps the water from corroding intricates.
My initial question was how speaker would still operate as it "coating" not hampering its performance but its answered on websites FAQ.
My question now lies in...if they coat everything that's good BUT what happens when you switch batteries...if the contacts of the battery weren't coated I'd think it could/would short out. No?
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My understanding is they coat internals of phones & simply keeps the water from corroding intricates.
My initial question was how speaker would still operate as it "coating" not hampering its performance but its answered on websites FAQ.
My question now lies in...if they coat everything that's good BUT what happens when you switch batteries...if the contacts of the battery weren't coated I'd think it could/would short out. No?
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Good question. You might have to email them on that one. I don't have to worry about it since my battery isn't "removable" lol
While I understand the application to any iOS devices because they are naturally closed.
But to other devices you get some variation of success.
The most important areas are the jack ports, speakers, mics, buttons, screws and edges of the opening-backside.
They probably coat the display too "just in case" but that should deteriorate the quality of the touchscreen.
And coating the innards is not necessary, but helps as "secondary insurance" but I'd be worried about the warranty getting void.
We need a device like the NOTE entirely Aluminium-Unibody with only the bottom lip opening up for removable battery, SIM, microSD (like the HTC Legend).
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While I understand the application to any iOS devices because they are naturally closed.
But to other devices you get some variation of success.
The most important areas are the jack ports, speakers, mics, buttons, screws and edges of the opening-backside.
They probably coat the display too "just in case" but that should deteriorate the quality of the touchscreen.
And coating the innards is not necessary, but helps as "secondary insurance" but I'd be worried about the warranty getting void.
We need a device like the NOTE entirely Aluminium-Unibody with only the bottom lip opening up for removable battery, SIM, microSD (like the HTC Legend).
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It sounds like your completely guessing at what "it" does and how its applied. I on the other hand decided to investigate BEFORE acting as if i knew what it was we are discussing.
1. Its applied via vapor,in a vacuum chamber environment, so as to completely coat inside and out, all parts of said device. The coating is 1000 times thinner than a human hair and therefor does not change the way the phone feels or functions(screen response)
2. speakers are not effected because they too are waterproofed in the same nano tech molecular bonding process.
3. When you submerge your device once coated, water does completely run THROUGH your device. Short circuit cannot be obtained because the liquid cannot make contact to the positive and negative/grounding surfaces because of said thin/nano layer of protection. although it repels liquids, it still allows all existing electrical pathways to function without flaw, and will conduct electricity thus allowing for the capacitive functions to work also.
4. This technology was not designed to make your phone "UNDERWATER" proof, and they recommend not submerging any device in liquid. In the case that your phone falls from your hoodie pocket into the toilet, you can retrieve (and hopefully) rinse your device before electrical failure/short occurs. Its a backup plan for accidents, not a solution for mobile underwater photography or social networking.
These statements are not conjecture. this is what happens when you read and investigate what youve read.
If your gonna troll, at least take the time to know what your talking about. F'in trolls!
Not trolling, just thought this was the "old" method previously adopted (was it by Vertu?).
If you call anyone a troll for showing interest then I guess you would be alone in this world as a non-troll, just saiyan
Did you even read what you wrote??? Words like "probably", and other staments like "naturally closed" make you sound like an idiot, which im sure you are not... but if you are gonna post in a category, wouldnt it help to know the subject your posting about. The information is there and one should not have to ?guess?
I on the other hand became very curious about said tech, and therefor did the research needed to contribute to this discussion.
There are no what if this happens in this case because the are selling a tested product, and have limited device compatibility - for now.
I was hoping that when i saw a new post on this thread that it was someone with valuable information, trying to fill gapps of knowledge, but it was just "what if's" and "probably's"... come on. If you want to pm me about what ive learned about this product, ill be happy to share anything else i have with anyone. I am here to learn, not waste valuable time reading conjecture based on nothing.
Hey smart guy why would you come here looking for information when you already know everything?
Even if I was still interested, I wouldn't ask someone like you (just letting you know so you dont have to constantly check you pm)
Later buddy
Seriously guys. This is to get other peoples opinion about the product. No need to argue
my phone (with a spigen hard case) fall to ground first time, the screen is fine, but I can't power on it anymore...
sent it to LG service, said need 3 days to check what's wrong..
my Nexus 5 fall to ground many times, and working well. and Nexus 5x just one... LG quality now is really bad.
Well, LG might say that user handling of devices nowadays it's very bad.
Hard cases suck for drops. They accept the drop instead of deflecting it like softer ones do. Just my opinion, buy a better case
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Hard cases suck for drops. They accept the drop instead of deflecting it like softer ones do. Just my opinion, buy a better case
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my nexus 5 use spigen hard case too, it fall to ground many time when my son play it... but still working
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my nexus 5 use spigen hard case too, it fall to ground many time when my son play it... but still working
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You don't think anyone dropped their Nexus 5 and it broke too? It's just luck if it breaks or not, as with any phone in a drop.
My 5x fell onto tiled floor with no case or screen protector. Barely even a scuff on two of the corners. Good job LG!
BTW you shouldn't expect a case to help in a drop when it's not designed to help in a drop, isn't advertised to help in a drop, nor was it ever publicly tested in drop tests.
If a case doesn't have these things then it is for scratch protection, minor bumps, and aesthetics only. Don't be fooled by empty marketing promises. It's easy for any case or SP to type some words on their JPEGs "super resilient, shock and explosion proof, 9H hardness" but that doesn't mean it's true or was ever actually tested. They just want your money.
Couldn't the thread have been titled, "First unlucky drop and no power.." or something like that. Ya just gotta throw in the dig of "bad quality LG" as if it's their fault you dropped the phone. I just don't get all these threads that don't really ask questions so much as to get eyeballs on a negative depiction of a very capable phone. And I'm just as guilty, I read this crap.
Me too Bobby. I keep feeding the trolls. I can't help it. I feel bad for them.
Thing is it was happening in the 6P threads too. I had one for about a week until I realized it was just too large a device for me and I was definitely going to drop and break it due to the size and slippery back. "Super lag on the 6P", "awful camera", speakers terrible" things like that just the same as here. Some of them just Sammy fans and some iPhone heads but they came out of the woodwork. And same here, "5X-Hugely disappointed" over 45k views. I mean who goes on just to post something like that instead of taking the time to return the device and research another one? It just makes me wonder motivation.
Back on topic, I dropped my phone once and not a scratch. It was on the carpet, does that count?
The only thing lacking quality in this situation is your grip.
Mine survived a 4 foot drop to concrete.
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I just don't get all these threads that don't really ask questions so much as to get eyeballs on a negative depiction of a very capable phone. And I'm just as guilty, I read this crap.
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Me too Bobby. I keep feeding the trolls. I can't help it.
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Some of them just Sammy fans and some iPhone heads but they came out of the woodwork. And same here, "5X-Hugely disappointed" over 45k views. I mean who goes on just to post something like that instead of taking the time to return the device and research another one? It just makes me wonder motivation.
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Me three.
I have to say -- I always try to assume the best in terms of motivation, and just chalk up someone's different experience to use case, app selection, etc. But my 5X is so fast, and multitasks so well, that I have to question motivation as well.
today LG called me ... said the mainboard damaged....
change a new mainboard is expensive, so I 'd better to buy a new one
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today LG called me ... said the mainboard damaged....
change a new mainboard is expensive, so I 'd better to buy a new one
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That, I'm sorry to hear. Somehow in this day and age they can make a phone almost indestructible. At least from a toilet drop and 5 feet onto cement.
my 5 fell into the grand canyon, I wonder if the screen broke. still rang but no one answered. sad. love my new 5X
Prior to the release of the Galaxy Fold I held a high interest in the device, it looked to be the next evolution in smartphones and in some ways it is on the cutting edge. On an International flight the guy sitting next to me allowed to examine his Fold Device. My first impression was this is pretty slick until I unfolded it. I had suspicions the display wasn't going to be the seamless beauty seen in the promotional videos Samsung distributed prior to it's release. I didn't ask the user how long he had the device but it had only been released a few months earlier. Maybe it's just me but the crease running down the middle of the display is very pronounced and tough to ignore. Here's Samsung's official statement regarding the crease.
"You may notice the crease at the center of the main screen due to characteristic of new Polymer material but it is a normal characteristic of device designed for the Infinity Flex Display. It will not affect the display’s quality"
"You may notice the crease" You'd be blind if you didn't notice it and I'm curious about their definition of the quality of the display.
I held off on acquiring a Fold and happy I did based feedback I've read. Also I was surprised to read Samsung is releasing the Fold Special Edition which is identical to the current Fold for $1,090 USD. That's close to half the price of it at release! A big price reduction is concerning but understandable since the device had a number of quality issues, hopefully Samsung has addressed most of these.
My biggest deal killer is the crease so my question is how bad is it for people using it as their daily driver? Any word the soon to arrive Fold 2 has improved on this obvious blemish? I know if I dropped two stacks on a smartphone I might be hesitant to throw shade on it but seriously, how bad is the crease?
no disrespect, but ill be blunt here.
you dont have a clue about what you're talking about, you're just scared to throw down "2 stacks". looking for small excuses to keep yourself from pulling the trigger.
you're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views.
it seems like you did less with it in your hands than at a samsung experience store which is a shame.
if you had actually turned on the screen, turned up/down the brightness to suit the atmosphere, it would be evident that the crease you call an "obvious blemish" is pretty much no where to be seen.
once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted?
you sound so sure in your post, yet your lack of knowledge is all telling.
fyi, that special edition you talk about? its rumored to have the same design as the first fold, with this years processor. it has nothing to do with the z fold 2.
the z fold 2 should be at the same price as the fold, possibly a tad bit higher.
good luck with waiting for the fold to be perfect, quite a few years away, probably never id assume.
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no disrespect, but ill be blunt here.
you dont have a clue about what you're talking about, you're just scared to throw down "2 stacks". looking for small excuses to keep yourself from pulling the trigger.
you're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views.
it seems like you did less with it in your hands than at a samsung experience store which is a shame.
if you had actually turned on the screen, turned up/down the brightness to suit the atmosphere, it would be evident that the crease you call an "obvious blemish" is pretty much no where to be seen.
once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted?
you sound so sure in your post, yet your lack of knowledge is all telling.
fyi, that special edition you talk about? its rumored to have the same design as the first fold, with this years processor. it has nothing to do with the z fold 2.
the z fold 2 should be at the same price as the fold, possibly a tad bit higher.
good luck with waiting for the fold to be perfect, quite a few years away, probably never id assume.
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"You're just scared to throw down 2 stacks"
Wow, a certified mind reader! Money is only a problem when you don't have any...
"If you had actually turned on the screen"
YOU have no clue what you're talking about, the device was powered up. I spent at least 20 minutes using controls and features.
"Once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted"
The crease was visible regardless of the viewing angle.
"You're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views"
So the "reviewer's" are useless and I should disregard them and put my faith in YOU?
Next time you respond to a post do everyone a favor, stick to what you KNOW, not what you ASSUME! You contributed very little to my inquiry about the crease, instead tossing around childish insults. Very inappropriate in this forum, get a grip or zip it!
Easy now guys. While it's ok to disagree, lets do it in a civil and respectful manner. Thank you.
--Badger50
I you have the money and you are fine with the small front display, it will easily be your daily phone.
For me, it's also a perfect desktop replacement, too.
Samsung shipped my Fold 5G with free buds and an assurance for a display replacement with worldwide premium concierge service.
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the device was powered up. I spent at least 20 minutes using controls and features
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hmmm.. so you spend 20 mins with the fold, and in your eyes, now you've experienced the fold. YET, you still come to a forum and say "how bad is the crease?"
makes no sense to me.
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Next time you respond to a post do everyone a favor, stick to what you KNOW, not what you ASSUME!
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LOL. its funny how you completely fail to realize i actually own a fold. since day 1 actually. "stick to what i know." LOL
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You contributed very little to my inquiry about the crease, instead tossing around childish insults. Very inappropriate in this forum, get a grip or zip it!
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what were my first 7 words?
what childish insults? did i swear at you? did i call you names?
samsung unpacked is coming at the beginning of august. the z fold 2 should be announced there.
you'll have yet another year to think about if you want to drop two stacks or not.
good luck
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I you have the money and you are fine with the small front display, it will easily be your daily phone.
For me, it's also a perfect desktop replacement, too.
Samsung shipped my Fold 5G with free buds and an assurance for a display replacement with worldwide premium concierge service.
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Thanks for the helpful input. With respect to the Display Replacement, any information as to whether or not Samsung would offer warranty replacement for a visible crease? It would seem they won't, implying it's a known defect they can't yet address. That's my biggest issue. Font Size can be increased, in doing so does it alter the symmetry of the entire display composition? Also, which model are you using? I'm leaning towards a Fold 2 variant of the SMF9070.
From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
I've also added a screen protector to the front screen and the folding screen which keeps it clean and fresh (can be peeled off it needed), I also have the free screen replacement within the first 12 months.
In terms of the quality of the display I can't fault it, colour accuracy is very good as well as low light, it's very easy to view in sunlight as well. The hinge is very solid and I don't feel like I have to baby the device when using it.
You seem more hung up on the crease so just to say again, I literally forget it is there when I am using the device, it doesn't impact the phone at all. A visible crease is not a defect, it's there by design for the folding screen, don't forget this is new technology, it's likely the next few versions will have this crease, maybe it will get slightly better as they go forward.
In terms of font size, I have changed the dpi to 712 in developer setting and that works well for me, that's my sweet spot for using the phone.
With the larger front screen on the Fold 2, I would highly recommend picking that up when it's released. However if you are hung up on a crease on the screen, you might be best just getting say the new Note 20 and sticking with a normal form factor. For new technology, there has to be a small compromise for early generation products.
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From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
I've also added a screen protector to the front screen and the folding screen which keeps it clean and fresh (can be peeled off it needed), I also have the free screen replacement within the first 12 months.
In terms of the quality of the display I can't fault it, colour accuracy is very good as well as low light, it's very easy to view in sunlight as well. The hinge is very solid and I don't feel like I have to baby the device when using it.
You seem more hung up on the crease so just to say again, I literally forget it is there when I am using the device, it doesn't impact the phone at all. A visible crease is not a defect, it's there by design for the folding screen, don't forget this is new technology, it's likely the next few versions will have this crease, maybe it will get slightly better as they go forward.
In terms of font size, I have changed the dpi to 712 in developer setting and that works well for me, that's my sweet spot for using the phone.
With the larger front screen on the Fold 2, I would highly recommend picking that up when it's released. However if you are hung up on a crease on the screen, you might be best just getting say the new Note 20 and sticking with a normal form factor. For new technology, there has to be a small compromise for early generation products.
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This is great input, thanks for sharing your experience. As mentioned I did have an opportunity to demo the Fold but it's the only one I've used to date. On this particular device the crease wasn't subtle, it would be difficult for most to ignore. Not sure what the owner's usage patterns are or other measures he may have employed. It's possible he used a screen protector which enhanced the crease, I didn't ask. When the Fold 2 is released I'll spend some time with it. I don't expect a virtually creaseless display but I would be very disappointed if it was similar to the one I've used.
I'm thinking it should look more like the flip which is less pronounced in video; I've not had a personal fondling of either so my view's here are strictly vicarious. I'm pretty sure I'm in though, I talked myself into it for round one but eventually bailed out with the delays. This time I'm hopeful the launch wont give me enough time to get antsy and I'm make it to pay dirt. Just got to find out about root...
I have had the fold for months, there is a crease, doesn't bother me at all, your mileage may vary!
I have the Fold and I never see the crease when used in front of me, you only see it when you're about to close it looking at it on an angle. It's not a problem at all, and trust me I'm very fussy with smartphones. It's not a deal breaker.
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From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
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thank you. exactly what i said.
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I have the Fold and I never see the crease when used in front of me, you only see it when you're about to close it looking at it on an angle. It's not a problem at all, and trust me I'm very fussy with smartphones. It's not a deal breaker.
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gotta love affirmation