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Okay guys.
So I just got my 4S back from these guys, and wow, I am honestly amazed.
I saw them on my local news a few days ago, and figured what the hell. Apparently they put your phone through a process that binds their product on a molecular level, and makes it "waterproof" I didn't think it'd work as good as in the videos but it really does.
Essentially what happens is, you pay and ship your phone to them. Within a day of receiving it, they treat your phone and send it back. (can do the express version for 10$ more)
I sent my phone in on a monday, received it back on that thursday. I then decided to put it to the test. filled up my sink (about a foot and a half deep), closed my eyes, and submerged my 4s. To my astonishment, I opened my eyes and the screen was still on! I was even able to type a message to my girlfriend telling her I was texting her from underwater xD
I then answered a call in the shower the next morning and all worked fine! Its been a week since Ive gotten my phone back and have done the sink trick countless times to impress my friends, and it still works like new hehe. just thought id share, seeing as a good waterproof case for the 4s is about 20$ more.
http://www.liquipel.com
edit: I figured the accessories thread was the best place, let me know if you feel otherwise ;P
heres a good demo i found of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtsSPZCGmuY
Yeh looks good but a pretty short list of approved devices. No SGSII for a start
killall said:
Yeh looks good but a pretty short list of approved devices. No SGSII for a start
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try emailing them? I thought i read somewhere on there site that they can usually make accommodations for devices not on the list..
And they JUST started taking orders at CES, so they should expand the supported devices soon if theyre doing this good. pretty great start imo xD
Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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Ah. Well that might be a problem then xD
killall said:
Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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It said it was a mail in program... international mail... phone back in like 3 weeks lol
edit:The following devices are approved to be Liquipelled:
Apple iPhone 4s
Apple iPhone 4
Apple iPhone 3g/s
HTC Evo 4G
HTC Evo Shift 4G
HTC MyTouch 4G
HTC Thunderbolt
Motorola Droid X/X2
Samsung Charge
Wow that is amazing!!
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My understanding is they coat internals of phones & simply keeps the water from corroding intricates.
My initial question was how speaker would still operate as it "coating" not hampering its performance but its answered on websites FAQ.
My question now lies in...if they coat everything that's good BUT what happens when you switch batteries...if the contacts of the battery weren't coated I'd think it could/would short out. No?
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blaine07 said:
My understanding is they coat internals of phones & simply keeps the water from corroding intricates.
My initial question was how speaker would still operate as it "coating" not hampering its performance but its answered on websites FAQ.
My question now lies in...if they coat everything that's good BUT what happens when you switch batteries...if the contacts of the battery weren't coated I'd think it could/would short out. No?
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Good question. You might have to email them on that one. I don't have to worry about it since my battery isn't "removable" lol
While I understand the application to any iOS devices because they are naturally closed.
But to other devices you get some variation of success.
The most important areas are the jack ports, speakers, mics, buttons, screws and edges of the opening-backside.
They probably coat the display too "just in case" but that should deteriorate the quality of the touchscreen.
And coating the innards is not necessary, but helps as "secondary insurance" but I'd be worried about the warranty getting void.
We need a device like the NOTE entirely Aluminium-Unibody with only the bottom lip opening up for removable battery, SIM, microSD (like the HTC Legend).
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While I understand the application to any iOS devices because they are naturally closed.
But to other devices you get some variation of success.
The most important areas are the jack ports, speakers, mics, buttons, screws and edges of the opening-backside.
They probably coat the display too "just in case" but that should deteriorate the quality of the touchscreen.
And coating the innards is not necessary, but helps as "secondary insurance" but I'd be worried about the warranty getting void.
We need a device like the NOTE entirely Aluminium-Unibody with only the bottom lip opening up for removable battery, SIM, microSD (like the HTC Legend).
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It sounds like your completely guessing at what "it" does and how its applied. I on the other hand decided to investigate BEFORE acting as if i knew what it was we are discussing.
1. Its applied via vapor,in a vacuum chamber environment, so as to completely coat inside and out, all parts of said device. The coating is 1000 times thinner than a human hair and therefor does not change the way the phone feels or functions(screen response)
2. speakers are not effected because they too are waterproofed in the same nano tech molecular bonding process.
3. When you submerge your device once coated, water does completely run THROUGH your device. Short circuit cannot be obtained because the liquid cannot make contact to the positive and negative/grounding surfaces because of said thin/nano layer of protection. although it repels liquids, it still allows all existing electrical pathways to function without flaw, and will conduct electricity thus allowing for the capacitive functions to work also.
4. This technology was not designed to make your phone "UNDERWATER" proof, and they recommend not submerging any device in liquid. In the case that your phone falls from your hoodie pocket into the toilet, you can retrieve (and hopefully) rinse your device before electrical failure/short occurs. Its a backup plan for accidents, not a solution for mobile underwater photography or social networking.
These statements are not conjecture. this is what happens when you read and investigate what youve read.
If your gonna troll, at least take the time to know what your talking about. F'in trolls!
Not trolling, just thought this was the "old" method previously adopted (was it by Vertu?).
If you call anyone a troll for showing interest then I guess you would be alone in this world as a non-troll, just saiyan
Did you even read what you wrote??? Words like "probably", and other staments like "naturally closed" make you sound like an idiot, which im sure you are not... but if you are gonna post in a category, wouldnt it help to know the subject your posting about. The information is there and one should not have to ?guess?
I on the other hand became very curious about said tech, and therefor did the research needed to contribute to this discussion.
There are no what if this happens in this case because the are selling a tested product, and have limited device compatibility - for now.
I was hoping that when i saw a new post on this thread that it was someone with valuable information, trying to fill gapps of knowledge, but it was just "what if's" and "probably's"... come on. If you want to pm me about what ive learned about this product, ill be happy to share anything else i have with anyone. I am here to learn, not waste valuable time reading conjecture based on nothing.
Hey smart guy why would you come here looking for information when you already know everything?
Even if I was still interested, I wouldn't ask someone like you (just letting you know so you dont have to constantly check you pm)
Later buddy
Seriously guys. This is to get other peoples opinion about the product. No need to argue
Over past few days I have developed a rash on my skin (mostly forearm area). I have analyzed what might of changed (foods, soaps, detergents, etc) and could not think of anything.
My wife pointed this article out this morning: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/07/14/report-says-nickel-in-ipad-other-devices-may-cause-rash/
I got my phone HTC One M8 on 7/5 and am considering this might be the culprit. I have emailed HTC to find out if they use nickel within the construction of the device.
Anyone else experience this?
Funny that you mentioned this, i just read this article before i came here and saw your post. Sorry im new so mods wont let me post links therefore i will copy paste it:
"Apple's iPad may be the cause of unexplained allergic rashes in children, reports The Washington Post, which cites a case study of an 11-year-old boy that was published in Pediatrics medical journal.
The Pediatrics article focuses on an 11-year-old boy who may be allergic to the nickel used in the casing of the tablet device. Following the increasing use of an iPad, the patient developed a rash that would not respond to conventional treatment.
His skin tested positive for nickel, one of the most common allergy-inducing metals, and doctors traced it back to an iPad he had used with increasing frequency the past six months. The iPad tested positive for nickel as well, according to the report.
Doctors advised the boy to use a Smart Case that covers the entire outer surface of the tablet. Similar to other reports of electronic device-induced rashes, the boy's skin condition improved significantly when he started using a case that prevented direct contact with the device.
As noted by the Associated Press, nickel allergies in children appear to be on the rise, with 25 percent of those receiving skin tests testing positive for nickel allergies, up from 17 percent a decade ago.
This iPad isn't the only device implicated in skin rashes. Earlier this year, Fitbit voluntarily recalled its Force fitness tracker after a growing number of users developed contact dermatitis from wearing the band. The rash was originally attributed to nickel in the charging port of the band, but that metal may not be involved as many users covered the nickel-containing port with tape and continued to experience a rash."
Source: Washington Post
You can drive yourself crazy reading stuff like this on the internet. Whether HTC is using nickel or not, it doesn't mean you have an allergy. Could just be a red herring and a coincidence. It can be any number of other environmental factors: pollen, mold, animals, or soaps/detergent (as you mentioned), plus were you outside over the holiday weekend (could be a reaction to sunscreen, heat rash, etc.). Also keep in mind that allergies change over the course of your life. I have allergies that didn't effect me at all when I was younger. So it can be almost anything, even something that didn't give you a rash before.
I'd relax about it. Treat with hydrocortisone cream or similar. And if it doesn't clear up in a week or so, go see a dermatologist and/or allergist.
Wouldn't the rash be on our hands rather than your forearms then? Unless you have a different way of holding the phone than most people
Your best bet is probably writing to HTC to find out what metals are used in the unibody construction.
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Wouldn't the rash be on our hands rather than your forearms then? Unless you have a different way of holding the phone than most people
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My initial reaction was the same. But dermatitis, while often localized to the exposure area, can also be a bit random and unpredictable.
For instance, the article linked in the OP says the boy got the rash "all over his body" and also includes a picture of his back (and I presume he was not rubbing the iPad on his naked back). Its possible that whatever alleged nickel-containing compound was unintentionally spread somehow or other.
Another example is poison ivy, where folks will often spread the plant's oil to various parts of their body after the initial exposure, by failure to properly wash hands or clothing. This has led to the popular misconception that the blister fluid can spread the rash to other parts of the body, or even other people, which is false.
That said, I still think the OP should not jump to the conclusion that a nickel allergy is the culprit, although it may be considered among other factors.
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Your best bet is probably writing to HTC to find out what metals are used in the unibody construction.
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OP stated he has already done so.
redpoint73 said:
My initial reaction was the same. But dermatitis, while often localized to the exposure area, can also be a bit random and unpredictable.
For instance, the article linked in the OP says the boy got the rash "all over his body" and also includes a picture of his back (and I presume he was not rubbing the iPad on his naked back). Its possible that whatever alleged nickel-containing compound was unintentionally spread somehow or other.
Another example is poison ivy, where folks will often spread the plant's oil to various parts of their body after the initial exposure, by failure to properly wash hands or clothing. This has led to the popular misconception that the blister fluid can spread the rash to other parts of the body, or even other people, which is false.
That said, I still think the OP should not jump to the conclusion that a nickel allergy is the culprit, although it may be considered among other factors.
OP stated he has already done so.
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That actually makes a lot of sense, thanks And oh yeah, I missed that in his post.
So far I have found out:
Thank you for your email about construction of the HTC One M8 device from Sprint.
I can appreciate your interest in knowing whether the device has nickel in its construction.
Please note, however, that construction details of our devices are proprietary to HTC. I can only tell you that the device is aluminum-based.
We apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced.
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After responding in disagreement, I received this:
Thank you for contacting us again about the use of nickel in the construction of your HTC One M8 device from Sprint.
Joey, most of the components used in our devices are proprietary. We do not disclose formulas or composition of the parts to the public in most cases.
We apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced due to any materials included in your phone.
Thank you once again for contacting HTC. Have a good day!
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So far I have found out:
After responding in disagreement, I received this:
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They don't deny!
I was wondering about getting a ONE M8 (for test purposes), and found a very cheap second hand. However the guy explained he got allergy to nickel and that it has caused him serious health problem.
However in the Q&A of the page, it also states he's in hospital (doesn't say why) with his device so he won't be able to send it before next week!? If I had an allergy I wouldn't definitely not keep to device causing it?
And so here am I reading this thread and wondering...
EDIT: Sales over so I can't post a link.
Hey guys,
What do you think of this review.
I was chocked about the buttons that pop up so easily ?
Sauce :
If a phone has to be destroyed, I'd rather have it done for scientific purposes instead of just for views for some bald jabroni.
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If a phone has to be destroyed, I'd rather have it done for scientific purposes instead of just for views for some bald jabroni.
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Lol, jabroni.
As soon as I saw that I knew I had a yinzer on my hands. He's beyond a jabroni, he's a chooch jag off!
I agree no need to do such things, it's a colossal waste.
I actually enjoy his videos. It's not as if he sawing it in half or putting it in a microwave or other stupid things people do. He's actually testing the device. Is it a little more exteme then what normal usage might bring? Yea, but it's nothing way out and I appreciate seeing what exactly my phone can handle and all that, especially compared to other phones.
As for this video, I can't lie and say i wasn't disappointed with how the U12+ did. Especially with seeing how those buttons popped off. And as someone who tears down phones all the time, hearing him question it's water resistance was also a little disconcerting. It's not going to stop me from buying this phone but one of the reasons I like HTC phones are because of the build quality. But seeing this do worse than how other phones faired and hearing his concerns did disappoint me.
And I wouldn't jump all over this guy for what he said about the phone. His videos aren't necessarily pure opinion. While he does give some opinions on how he think a phone will fare in certain conditions, it's all based on his testing and how the phone itself handled it and what he finds in his tear downs. That's all. If you got the U12+ and enjoy, even love it and think it's the best phone ever, then that's all that matters. Don't get too worked up over what others say.
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Lol, jabroni.
As soon as I saw that I knew I had a yinzer on my hands. He's beyond a jabroni, he's a chooch jag off!
I agree no need to do such things, it's a colossal waste.
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Ya got me n'at. That's my point though, if I'm going to want to see a tear down (which I do, because I want to see what sort of vibration system HTC has employed here), I'll wait for a proper, scientific one from iFixit (who doesn't have one as of yet).
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I actually enjoy his videos. It's not as if he sawing it in half or putting it in a microwave or other stupid things people do. He's actually testing the device. Is it a little more exteme then what normal usage might bring? Yea, but it's nothing way out and I appreciate seeing what exactly my phone can handle and all that, especially compared to other phones.
As for this video, I can't lie and say i wasn't disappointed with how the U12+ did. Especially with seeing how those buttons popped off. And as someone who tears down phones all the time, hearing him question it's water resistance was also a little disconcerting. It's not going to stop me from buying this phone but one of the reasons I like HTC phones are because of the build quality. But seeing this do worse than how other phones faired and hearing his concerns did disappoint me.
And I wouldn't jump all over this guy for what he said about the phone. His videos aren't necessarily pure opinion. While he does give some opinions on how he think a phone will fare in certain conditions, it's all based on his testing and how the phone itself handled it and what he finds in his tear downs. That's all. If you got the U12+ and enjoy, even love it and think it's the best phone ever, then that's all that matters. Don't get too worked up over what others say.
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My gripe comes from his methodology and the fact that there are some who are still waiting for their phones. Seeing one destroyed in a non-scientific matter irks me. (Though the screen scratch testing, I have to give props to.) I can't see any day to day use where my device would come into direct contact with open flame or a utility knife.
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Ya got me n'at. That's my point though, if I'm going to want to see a tear down (which I do, because I want to see what sort of vibration system HTC has employed here), I'll wait for a proper, scientific one from iFixit (who doesn't have one as of yet).
My gripe comes from his methodology and the fact that there are some who are still waiting for their phones. Seeing one destroyed in a non-scientific matter irks me. (Though the screen scratch testing, I have to give props to.) I can't see any day to day use where my device would come into direct contact with open flame or a utility knife.
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I still don't have mine yet. Supposed to come today, we'll see.
I'd like to see an in depth tear down too since I'm sure I'll probably break the back glass at some point. I'm in highway construction and I'm brutal to my phones.
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Ya got me n'at. That's my point though, if I'm going to want to see a tear down (which I do, because I want to see what sort of vibration system HTC has employed here), I'll wait for a proper, scientific one from iFixit (who doesn't have one as of yet).
My gripe comes from his methodology and the fact that there are some who are still waiting for their phones. Seeing one destroyed in a non-scientific matter irks me. (Though the screen scratch testing, I have to give props to.) I can't see any day to day use where my device would come into direct contact with open flame or a utility knife.
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It is non-scientific, but he does this for all of the new releases. So it's interesting to see how all of the new flagships stack up to one another regarding durability. At least it did better than the U11+ though.
The teardown of the U12+:
I'm a big fan of HTC but I'm no apologist either. That was rough to watch. Things that would normally be so simple to replace on a phone are causing this phone to basically become a paperweight if damaged. At the price they're selling this at, all these "little" things become that much more bigger.
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The teardown of the U12+:
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Linear actuator confirmed!
Prior to the release of the Galaxy Fold I held a high interest in the device, it looked to be the next evolution in smartphones and in some ways it is on the cutting edge. On an International flight the guy sitting next to me allowed to examine his Fold Device. My first impression was this is pretty slick until I unfolded it. I had suspicions the display wasn't going to be the seamless beauty seen in the promotional videos Samsung distributed prior to it's release. I didn't ask the user how long he had the device but it had only been released a few months earlier. Maybe it's just me but the crease running down the middle of the display is very pronounced and tough to ignore. Here's Samsung's official statement regarding the crease.
"You may notice the crease at the center of the main screen due to characteristic of new Polymer material but it is a normal characteristic of device designed for the Infinity Flex Display. It will not affect the display’s quality"
"You may notice the crease" You'd be blind if you didn't notice it and I'm curious about their definition of the quality of the display.
I held off on acquiring a Fold and happy I did based feedback I've read. Also I was surprised to read Samsung is releasing the Fold Special Edition which is identical to the current Fold for $1,090 USD. That's close to half the price of it at release! A big price reduction is concerning but understandable since the device had a number of quality issues, hopefully Samsung has addressed most of these.
My biggest deal killer is the crease so my question is how bad is it for people using it as their daily driver? Any word the soon to arrive Fold 2 has improved on this obvious blemish? I know if I dropped two stacks on a smartphone I might be hesitant to throw shade on it but seriously, how bad is the crease?
no disrespect, but ill be blunt here.
you dont have a clue about what you're talking about, you're just scared to throw down "2 stacks". looking for small excuses to keep yourself from pulling the trigger.
you're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views.
it seems like you did less with it in your hands than at a samsung experience store which is a shame.
if you had actually turned on the screen, turned up/down the brightness to suit the atmosphere, it would be evident that the crease you call an "obvious blemish" is pretty much no where to be seen.
once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted?
you sound so sure in your post, yet your lack of knowledge is all telling.
fyi, that special edition you talk about? its rumored to have the same design as the first fold, with this years processor. it has nothing to do with the z fold 2.
the z fold 2 should be at the same price as the fold, possibly a tad bit higher.
good luck with waiting for the fold to be perfect, quite a few years away, probably never id assume.
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no disrespect, but ill be blunt here.
you dont have a clue about what you're talking about, you're just scared to throw down "2 stacks". looking for small excuses to keep yourself from pulling the trigger.
you're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views.
it seems like you did less with it in your hands than at a samsung experience store which is a shame.
if you had actually turned on the screen, turned up/down the brightness to suit the atmosphere, it would be evident that the crease you call an "obvious blemish" is pretty much no where to be seen.
once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted?
you sound so sure in your post, yet your lack of knowledge is all telling.
fyi, that special edition you talk about? its rumored to have the same design as the first fold, with this years processor. it has nothing to do with the z fold 2.
the z fold 2 should be at the same price as the fold, possibly a tad bit higher.
good luck with waiting for the fold to be perfect, quite a few years away, probably never id assume.
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"You're just scared to throw down 2 stacks"
Wow, a certified mind reader! Money is only a problem when you don't have any...
"If you had actually turned on the screen"
YOU have no clue what you're talking about, the device was powered up. I spent at least 20 minutes using controls and features.
"Once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted"
The crease was visible regardless of the viewing angle.
"You're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views"
So the "reviewer's" are useless and I should disregard them and put my faith in YOU?
Next time you respond to a post do everyone a favor, stick to what you KNOW, not what you ASSUME! You contributed very little to my inquiry about the crease, instead tossing around childish insults. Very inappropriate in this forum, get a grip or zip it!
Easy now guys. While it's ok to disagree, lets do it in a civil and respectful manner. Thank you.
--Badger50
I you have the money and you are fine with the small front display, it will easily be your daily phone.
For me, it's also a perfect desktop replacement, too.
Samsung shipped my Fold 5G with free buds and an assurance for a display replacement with worldwide premium concierge service.
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the device was powered up. I spent at least 20 minutes using controls and features
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hmmm.. so you spend 20 mins with the fold, and in your eyes, now you've experienced the fold. YET, you still come to a forum and say "how bad is the crease?"
makes no sense to me.
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Next time you respond to a post do everyone a favor, stick to what you KNOW, not what you ASSUME!
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LOL. its funny how you completely fail to realize i actually own a fold. since day 1 actually. "stick to what i know." LOL
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You contributed very little to my inquiry about the crease, instead tossing around childish insults. Very inappropriate in this forum, get a grip or zip it!
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what were my first 7 words?
what childish insults? did i swear at you? did i call you names?
samsung unpacked is coming at the beginning of august. the z fold 2 should be announced there.
you'll have yet another year to think about if you want to drop two stacks or not.
good luck
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I you have the money and you are fine with the small front display, it will easily be your daily phone.
For me, it's also a perfect desktop replacement, too.
Samsung shipped my Fold 5G with free buds and an assurance for a display replacement with worldwide premium concierge service.
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Thanks for the helpful input. With respect to the Display Replacement, any information as to whether or not Samsung would offer warranty replacement for a visible crease? It would seem they won't, implying it's a known defect they can't yet address. That's my biggest issue. Font Size can be increased, in doing so does it alter the symmetry of the entire display composition? Also, which model are you using? I'm leaning towards a Fold 2 variant of the SMF9070.
From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
I've also added a screen protector to the front screen and the folding screen which keeps it clean and fresh (can be peeled off it needed), I also have the free screen replacement within the first 12 months.
In terms of the quality of the display I can't fault it, colour accuracy is very good as well as low light, it's very easy to view in sunlight as well. The hinge is very solid and I don't feel like I have to baby the device when using it.
You seem more hung up on the crease so just to say again, I literally forget it is there when I am using the device, it doesn't impact the phone at all. A visible crease is not a defect, it's there by design for the folding screen, don't forget this is new technology, it's likely the next few versions will have this crease, maybe it will get slightly better as they go forward.
In terms of font size, I have changed the dpi to 712 in developer setting and that works well for me, that's my sweet spot for using the phone.
With the larger front screen on the Fold 2, I would highly recommend picking that up when it's released. However if you are hung up on a crease on the screen, you might be best just getting say the new Note 20 and sticking with a normal form factor. For new technology, there has to be a small compromise for early generation products.
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From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
I've also added a screen protector to the front screen and the folding screen which keeps it clean and fresh (can be peeled off it needed), I also have the free screen replacement within the first 12 months.
In terms of the quality of the display I can't fault it, colour accuracy is very good as well as low light, it's very easy to view in sunlight as well. The hinge is very solid and I don't feel like I have to baby the device when using it.
You seem more hung up on the crease so just to say again, I literally forget it is there when I am using the device, it doesn't impact the phone at all. A visible crease is not a defect, it's there by design for the folding screen, don't forget this is new technology, it's likely the next few versions will have this crease, maybe it will get slightly better as they go forward.
In terms of font size, I have changed the dpi to 712 in developer setting and that works well for me, that's my sweet spot for using the phone.
With the larger front screen on the Fold 2, I would highly recommend picking that up when it's released. However if you are hung up on a crease on the screen, you might be best just getting say the new Note 20 and sticking with a normal form factor. For new technology, there has to be a small compromise for early generation products.
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This is great input, thanks for sharing your experience. As mentioned I did have an opportunity to demo the Fold but it's the only one I've used to date. On this particular device the crease wasn't subtle, it would be difficult for most to ignore. Not sure what the owner's usage patterns are or other measures he may have employed. It's possible he used a screen protector which enhanced the crease, I didn't ask. When the Fold 2 is released I'll spend some time with it. I don't expect a virtually creaseless display but I would be very disappointed if it was similar to the one I've used.
I'm thinking it should look more like the flip which is less pronounced in video; I've not had a personal fondling of either so my view's here are strictly vicarious. I'm pretty sure I'm in though, I talked myself into it for round one but eventually bailed out with the delays. This time I'm hopeful the launch wont give me enough time to get antsy and I'm make it to pay dirt. Just got to find out about root...
I have had the fold for months, there is a crease, doesn't bother me at all, your mileage may vary!
I have the Fold and I never see the crease when used in front of me, you only see it when you're about to close it looking at it on an angle. It's not a problem at all, and trust me I'm very fussy with smartphones. It's not a deal breaker.
yetiweston said:
From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
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thank you. exactly what i said.
basic086 said:
I have the Fold and I never see the crease when used in front of me, you only see it when you're about to close it looking at it on an angle. It's not a problem at all, and trust me I'm very fussy with smartphones. It's not a deal breaker.
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gotta love affirmation
Just a heads up for the folks that have a grip case and wanted the leather skins and missed out on them the first time. Got an email indicating that they're back in stock now for order. Rejoice and throw money at our robot overlords!
It's just insane to use dead animals for decorating. Just my 2c...
ademmer said:
It's just insane to use dead animals for decorating. Just my 2c...
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To be fair, some animals that are sick or old and will die "anyway" ... should be used for industrial purposes, meaning their bodies shouldn't go to waste. We have a butcher in our city that, for example, offers horse meat - but only from the ones that need to be culled for medical reasons, or age, or being euthanized for behavioral reasons.
The problem is when animals are raised/bred in masses only to get slaughtered to benefit from their bodies without giving the animals a chance at a good life (e.g. mink coat, that's just barbarous).
So in the first case, I personally have no problem with animals getting "stripped" off their resources - but in the second case, I'd stand behind you and your assesment. At least that's my opinion.
The problem, of course, is that it's very hard to differentiate - most leather products do not disclose the origin of their materials. So in general it's probably a wiser move to abstain from leather products, except when you can verify its origin.
In the end, of course it's a moral question. Especially in the western world we have no problem breeding and culling pigs and cows, even though they are breathing, feeling, emotional animals just like all the others, whilst most feel horror when hearing a horse, a dog or a cat getting culled to be eaten, or be produced in any way. That's mainly a "luxury" problem, since we can afford to not use all the available animals to satisfy our needs, whilst other countries in the world need to process all their resources (including animals) to feed their civilizations. It's a hypocritical issue, but in the end the human benefit will always outweigh the animal one, since they have no voice of their own.
I agree to your arguments. Nevertheless, I appreciate anything that makes mass slaughtering less attractive. There are loads of "vegan leather" variants available for multiple purposes, that are miles ahead of common fake leather in terms of quality, haptics etc.
When im eating steak and looking at my wallet i know that a cow somewhere never went to waste. I beleave they should use every part of the animal skin, meat bone, horns, tounge, eyes, Mmmm im getting hungry.
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ademmer said:
It's just insane to use dead animals for decorating. Just my 2c...
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if they are already dead whats the issue?
Bought black a few weeks ago. Looks great installed. Didn't use the camera skin. They could have made it a tiiiiny bit bigger.
ademmer said:
It's just insane to use dead animals for decorating. Just my 2c...
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My phone, both cars and motorcycle seat are OK with it.