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[APP] AppShare(+) – Share Apps Between Users without Separate Google Accounts

I've recently released an app that uses Google's new multi-user accounts feature to share apps between the different users on your device (without each of them requiring a separate Google account).
It's called AppShare(+) and you can get it here (requires root):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spectrl.appshare
You can download apps on your main user account as usual, and then use AppShare to simply select which users you want to have access to the app.
This also works for "unsharing" (disabling) apps for users. For example, you could disable the Gmail, or Play Store apps for a 'Guest' user account.
As a bonus, you can also use the app to disable (but not uninstall) system or user apps on your main account, freeing up resources and potentially speeding up your device.
It was designed and optimised for tablets (tested on a Nexus 7), however it will also work on phones that have multi-user support enabled through a custom ROM.
Even though I am using the same method that the Android system uses to enable/disable apps, some system apps react in a weird way to being disabled and sometimes re-appear.
I have found that disabling certain system apps works best on a "fresh" account – i.e. A new user which hasn't had a Google account previously set up on it.
There are a couple more limitations, but I would suggest that you read the Play Store description for the full run down...
I have tested it as thoroughly as I can, but please let me know if you run into any problems.
I'd love to hear what you think and get some feedback.
Thanks!

I've been getting a fair amount of crash reports lately and it looks like the cause is a missing file related to Google's multi-user implementation which I assumed would be on everyone's device, in the same place.
It appears that it is not there on some devices, causing my app to crash, so I would really appreciate it if I could get a few people to check and confirm that they have the file /data/system/users/userlist.xml on their device?
You can check using any file explorer with root, or using the adb shell terminal if you know how!
Thanks for your help in making the app better.

I do have userlist.xml in that location; running 4.2.2, updated OTA from 4.2.1.
Currently using "Multi-User App Share" for this feature without problem, but I'll keep and eye on this project and see if it's worth the change.

Psoulocybe said:
I do have userlist.xml in that location; running 4.2.2, updated OTA from 4.2.1.
Currently using "Multi-User App Share" for this feature without problem, but I'll keep and eye on this project and see if it's worth the change.
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Thanks for that.
My app seems to be working great for the majority of users (myself included) but there seems to be a handful of people running into problems because the app can't find that file...
I'm struggling to figure out why though?! The only explanation I've got so far is that they could be using custom ROMs which messes with multi-user in some way.
You should try out AppShare, its free so you've got nothing to lose!

Inexplicable autonomous app update behavior when plugged in & wifi on. A real puzzle.

Inexplicable autonomous app update behavior when plugged in & wifi on. A real puzzle.
Facts:
1) Two phones, Pixel 3 and 3 XL, latest patches. Both rooted, running ElementalX and Magisk. Both have same apps installed and settings.
2) Playstore "Auto-update" is disabled, set to "Don't auto-update apps".
3) Play Protect is fully disabled.
4) TiBu has no scheduled jobs
5) No threat/system scanner running
Behavior background:
1) Started noticing a few months ago (so not a patch update issue).
2) Happens only when phone is charging and wifi on (I have wifi set to turn on when plugged in, I have not isolated whether it is caused by one or the other, or both).
3) Seems to happen around/between 10:20 PM and 11:20 PM PST, based on file timestamp.
4) Does not happen every night. I charge the phone (therefore wifi turns on during charge) every night). I have not been able to find a pattern.
The strange behavior I cannot explain:
1) When it happens, a few (can be 1, 2, or 5) apps are found to have been updated on their own.
2) However, these apps are not shown updated in the Playstore and their version remained the same.
3) When I go to data/app, these apps look like they are updated based on time/date stamp (from the night before).
4) However, their version number has not changed, Playstore does not show a recent update.
5) It does not matter when the app was last truly updated or installed. Even disabled app will get this "ghost re-install/update". Apps seem to be picked randomly.
In sum, I find a few apps that get randomly self-updated, but they were really not updated. The version has changed and Playstore does not know anything about it (not on update list). Also, version has not changed. In fact, though, their timestamp show that it was updated.
Here is the kicker--I see the behavior in both phones. AND, they are the same (at least about the same list of) apps that get the "ghost update". If I don't plug in one phone to charge (and wifi not on), that phone does not get the update until the next time it is plugged in.
W-T-F???

What are the apps? Is it always the same ones?

Seemingly random apps, both user-installed and system (e.g., Chrome, Data Transfer Tool). I have not been able to detect a pattern on which app gets this ghost update. I started noticing this late December, best guess.

I almost don't want to even bring this issue back up since I haven't noticed it in a couple of months. I was noticing it a lot on all 6 of my devices (including Pixel 3XL and Pixel 3) because I would go to Titanium Backup and see apps showing as due for backup of a new version. Nothing showed in Play Store, and the App description on Play showed the same version as before with the old last updated date. Either they have fixed it or hidden it better, but it seamed to be some sort of security patch at an app level. Here are a couple of old threads including my Google thread and a couple of reddit threads. I still have an open support case on it, but since it stopped happening and different folks at Google kept ignoring my replies to the man suggesting stupid-a$$ things (like factory resetting my devices and signing off and on with a new user on different devices) I just dropped it.
P.S. I never did notice the plugged in thing, but that is not to say it wasn't happening. I was asleep when it happened as far as I know.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/Pgzokc69Qt8/9V1n27ONBwAJ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new

Found this, too, but it's from 2013: https://arstechnica.com/information...ng-android-apps-possibly-including-facebooks/

sliding_billy said:
I almost don't want to even bring this issue back up since I haven't noticed it in a couple of months. I was noticing it a lot on all 6 of my devices (including Pixel 3XL and Pixel 3) because I would go to Titanium Backup and see apps showing as due for backup of a new version. Nothing showed in Play Store, and the App description on Play showed the same version as before with the old last updated date. Either they have fixed it or hidden it better, but it seamed to be some sort of security patch at an app level. Here are a couple of old threads including my Google thread and a couple of reddit threads. I still have an open support case on it, but since it stopped happening and different folks at Google kept ignoring my replies to the man suggesting stupid-a$$ things (like factory resetting my devices and signing off and on with a new user on different devices) I just dropped it.
P.S. I never did notice the plugged in thing, but that is not to say it wasn't happening. I was asleep when it happened as far as I know.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/Pgzokc69Qt8/9V1n27ONBwAJ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
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Found this, too, but it's from 2013: https://arstechnica.com/information...ng-android-apps-possibly-including-facebooks/
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Many thanks for the links. This is exactly what I am seeing. One of the posts in the link described the install as exact same apk and version. It is also what I see. It still does not explain what is going on behind the scenes, but at least it is good to know that I am not the only one seeing this. For most people, they are not aware. I see it because I use a backup app for newly installed apps. As such, everytime an app installed or updated, I get a notification.

snovvman said:
Many thanks for the links. This is exactly what I am seeing. One of the posts in the link described the install as exact same apk and version. It is also what I see. It still does not explain what is going on behind the scenes, but at least it is good to know that I am not the only one seeing this. For most people, they are not aware. I see it because I use a backup app for newly installed apps. As such, everytime an app installed or updated, I get a notification.
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No problem. I do wonder if your devices are new. As I mentioned, I have not seen this behavior in months on any of my devices. I do think it was an in place Google side security patch to the actual app installer or something that they can control from Play without modifying the app code itself, and if yours have not been modified yet it will catch up when it finishes all of the apps that need it.

sliding_billy said:
No problem. I do wonder if your devices are new. As I mentioned, I have not seen this behavior in months on any of my devices. I do think it was an in place Google side security patch to the actual app installer or something that they can control from Play without modifying the app code itself, and if yours have not been modified yet it will catch up when it finishes all of the apps that need it.
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Both of my devices were pre-order (from last year) and were activated as soon as I received them. Some of the newer apps that were updated this way were newer, like Pixel Tips and Data Transfer Tool. Apps like SmartThings, Lutron, and Pushover were recently updated normally through Playstore, but they were ghost updated a few days ago. If the theory were true, on these basis, it is unclear why Google would need to/want to update/re-update the apps this way.

snovvman said:
Both of my devices were pre-order (from last year) and were activated as soon as I received them. Some of the newer apps that were updated this way were newer, like Pixel Tips and Data Transfer Tool. Apps like SmartThings, Lutron, and Pushover were recently updated normally through Playstore, but they were ghost updated a few days ago. If the theory were true, on these basis, it is unclear why Google would need to/want to update/re-update the apps this way.
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Well the fact that your devices are a hair older than mine (I got my 3XL and 3 very shortly after public release) does quash that argument. The one thing I can think of that is still different is the detection method each of us has used. TB has been updated a few times in the past couple of months to start, and even if not Google could still be making changes that are not seen by TB. What backup app/notification process are you using?

Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.

TonikJDK said:
Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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No, it has happened to plenty of 3rd party apps both root apps and not.

sliding_billy said:
Well the fact that your devices are a hair older than mine (I got my 3XL and 3 very shortly after public release) does quash that argument. The one thing I can think of that is still different is the detection method each of us has used. TB has been updated a few times in the past couple of months to start, and even if not Google could still be making changes that are not seen by TB. What backup app/notification process are you using?
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Two apps I use that tells me when an app was installed/updated:
App Monster Pro ** "old version" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.think_android.apps.appmonster.cloud
The current PS version, based on reviews, does not do what the old version does. The old version, which I continue to use, and works well, will make a backup of the installed apk any time an app is updated or installed. I can decide the number of revisions to keep. This allows me to roll back if I need to. The most helpful part, as it turns out, is knowing when an app is updated--even Playstore or other non-Playstore-installed apps will spawn a notification. The backup is in a plain apk, which makes it easy to transport and share.
The other tool is My Android Tools Pro -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-android-toolspro-one-fav-apps-t3262150
This app allows me to cut off broadcast receivers, disable services, manifest apk activities and content providers. It also includes a logcat viewer, process explorers, and more. Root is required. This app refined over time but was taken off of the Playstore. It does not appear to be maintained anymore, but still works well. I sort the app list based on newly installed apps and it clearly shows me what was truly and recently installed. I use the app to cut off broadcast receivers and services that relate to app measurement, install referrer, etc. For some apps, I cut off the startup receiver. They help to keep occasionally used apps from launching needlessly. Other may have opinions, but these methods work well for me.
Lastly, I used Root Explorer to verify the app install dates (per post 1).
TonikJDK said:
Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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Adding to post #3, they are both Google and 3rd-party apps. The publisher of the app does not appear to matter.

snovvman said:
Two apps I use that tells me when an app was installed/updated:
App Monster Pro ** "old version" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.think_android.apps.appmonster.cloud
The current PS version, based on reviews, does not do what the old version does. The old version, which I continue to use, and works well, will make a backup of the installed apk any time an app is updated or installed. I can decide the number of revisions to keep. This allows me to roll back if I need to. The most helpful part, as it turns out, is knowing when an app is updated--even Playstore or other non-Playstore-installed apps will spawn a notification. The backup is in a plain apk, which makes it easy to transport and share.
The other tool is My Android Tools Pro -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-android-toolspro-one-fav-apps-t3262150
This app allows me to cut off broadcast receivers, disable services, manifest apk activities and content providers. It also includes a logcat viewer, process explorers, and more. Root is required. This app refined over time but was taken off of the Playstore. It does not appear to be maintained anymore, but still works well. I sort the app list based on newly installed apps and it clearly shows me what was truly and recently installed. I use the app to cut off broadcast receivers and services that relate to app measurement, install referrer, etc. For some apps, I cut off the startup receiver. They help to keep occasionally used apps from launching needlessly. Other may have opinions, but these methods work well for me.
Lastly, I used Root Explorer to verify the app install dates (per post 1).
Adding to post #3, they are both Google and 3rd-party apps. The publisher of the app does not appear to matter.
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Starting to look more and more like Google is still making changes in the background but it is not being detected by any current backup apps. Since the two you were using have either been deprecated or abandoned, it's hard to say if Google has actually changed what was being updated or just the possibility of detection. Short of someone getting into the app code for a hard comparison between pre/post versions (beyond my skill set for sure), my guess is this is going to go unanswered since Google is clearly still making changes but not releasing the "why" or "what."

sliding_billy said:
Starting to look more and more like Google is still making changes in the background but it is not being detected by any current backup apps. Since the two you were using have either been deprecated or abandoned, it's hard to say if Google has actually changed what was being updated or just the possibility of detection. Short of someone getting into the app code for a hard comparison between pre/post versions (beyond my skill set for sure), my guess is this is going to go unanswered since Google is clearly still making changes but not releasing the "why" or "what."
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I agree. What I can say with certainty is that those apps were at least "reinstalled" because of the folder/file dates. Also, my two phones are seeing the same apps being updated. This suggests that there are some logic behind it.

snovvman said:
I agree. What I can say with certainty is that those apps were at least "reinstalled" because of the folder/file dates. Also, my two phones are seeing the same apps being updated. This suggests that there are some logic behind it.
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Yeah, the "updates" my not have happened at the same time (or even the same day) but eventually the apps that are shared on various devices would end up modified for me as well.

FSTRIM?
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pkelly517 said:
FSTRIM?
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I am not using the FSTRIM app, and the fact that eventually all of the same apps (6 devices on various Android versions) would end up getting updated but not all apps makes it unlikely that native trimming is causing it.

Themes / Apps / Mods [Anxious] OOS v502, Companion v346, True Silent v2, Verizon PU v16

These modules are made for personal use. If you have an issue it is likely on your end. It's like running OOS 10.5ish w/ OOS 11/Pixel 4 Pixel 5/9 Pro/server side features via a whole lot of sed. The "thoroughness" of this OP is to minimize the need for back and forth between us. All OOS 11-11.2.* should be supported. Remains to be seen what changes with Color OS based OOS.
Anxious OOS v502 features:
(Template - Magisk module installer)
Android 12.1 Emojis, Blurs, Immersive Navbar, Nova Launcher w/ Google Feed, Pixel 5 features (device personalization services, flags, google phone framework, overlays), Premier Tier, 9 Pro Camera
Anxious OOS Companion v346 features:
(Template - MMT-Ex 1.6)
Anxious Kernel Script - Infinite Pills, Infinite Alcohol | Gboard - Faster Voice Typing, Google Lens, M2 (telescoping gif, tenor autocomplete, trending search), No Spacebar Branding, Ogg Opus Encoder, Pill Shape, Pixel Props, SODA, Tenor V2 * Languages (autocomplete, trending term, suggested search term), Tflite (emoji predicition, main word predicition, triggering model), Translate Dictation | Google Duo - In Call Effects w/o FPS Cap, Message Captions, Opus FEC, Outgoing Call Camera Switch, Restrict Low Bandwidth Logging, Video Processing-Sink, VP9 Hardware, 720p (for most things) | Google Phone - Duo Handover, STIR/SHAKEN (carrier/os support required), VVM (all carriers) | Google Photos - Cache Aware Video, Jpeg Backup Quality 100%, New Video Editor Backend/Frontend w/ Export Frame
True Silent v2 features:
(Template - MMT-Ex 1.6)
Silent .ogg file for notifications. Useful for apps like Facebook Messenger that don't respect notification channels properly. Seperate module so less reselecting when debugging anxious module. Also doesn't need to be uninstalled with OTAs.
Verizon Plus Ultra v16 features:
(Template - MMT-Ex 1.6)
Fixes for using Verizon on the 7 Pro.​
All feature lists are constantly changing. Not everything is listed. Because sometimes the modules put you front in line for a/b server testing of literally anything Google.
The embedded links for some features are just links to what I consider to be a good enough explainaiton of the feature.
Google is your friend, I am not.​
Support:
Basically none. This is made for my personal use. If you don't follow the instructions, you'll probably end up in a non-boot/bootloop.
What I'm Using:
Kernel - Kirisakura 1.3.9 R
Magisk - Stable
Rom - 11.0.4.1.GM21AA (7 Pro)
Do not use Open Beta/AOSP/LOS/etc... with my modules.
There are no special instructions for updating, unless stated otherwise in a release post. The below install instructions are not meant to be followed for updating.
Prerequisites:
You need "Busybox for Android NDK" and I strongly recommend "Cross Compiled Binaries" with sed installed to /system/bin. They are on the magisk module repo.
How to install:
1. Read entire OP. Reread entire OP. Do it again.
2. Install "Overlay Mount Fix". Skip to next step, if it fails to install.
3. Uninstall Google Framework/Phone, and/or Nova Companion apk, if any/all are installed. Go to the Play Store listing for Device Personalization Services and click uninstall, if it's available. Reboot, if you uninstalled any modules. There are probably other modules you should uninstall. But that's your problem, not mine.
4. Install "AnxiousOOS_v*.zip". (Magisk Manager only)
5. Reboot.
6. Install Google Phone as user app, you can use apk from companion module, from apkmirror, or clear Play Store data and then it should be offered by the play store.
7. Clear Play Store data if you didn't in step 6. Then update apps that now have an update in the Play Store.
8. Set up Device Personalization Services, Google Phone, i.e. grant all permissions (including "Draw over other apps" and "Modify system settings"), set as default phone app, spam app (search "spam" in settings), open app and set up available features. Don't forget to check all Settings>Apps and notifications>Special app access and check all of them for the aforementioned apps + Google apps (hit overflow menu and show system).
9. Install "AnxiousOOSCompanion_v*.zip". (Magisk Manager only)
10. Reboot.
11. Clear Play Store data
12. You profit.
13. Donate.
14. I profit.
15. Install Verizon specific module. Reboot. Reset APN defaults (search "sim" in settings, 1st suggestion>sim 1>access point names>overflow menu), if using Verizon module.
16. Call Screen/Hold For Me.
17. 100% jpeg quality.
Download(s) faq:
Q: Can you provide a mirror?
A: No.
Q: Why?
A: Mega is very mobile friendly and collects no metrics, I can't even track the number of downloads!
Changelog:
Will be available on each release post. I will not compile a changelog in one post.
Magisk:
Don't use anything older than the latest stable magisk.
Tips/Troubleshooting:
You should check "Settings>
Security & lock screen>Google Play system update" for an update. My modules might enable being on the latest. Might not.
If any app is reported as unsupported in the Play Store then clear the Play Store's data. It should work after that but a reboot might be needed sometimes.
Google has the ability to break pretty much anything with server side updates.
Clean installs of roms will probably have better outcomes, if it didn't work.
The app that live caption exists in, is called "Device Personalization Services". If it's not available you need to manually enable the service. I recommend this app manager. While you're at it you should enable all activities, providers, receivers, services. I also suggest using App Ops and Shizuku (required for App Ops functionality). All the linked apps also make debugging/troubleshooting easier.
Random:
You should read the Magisk documentation and MMT-Ex wiki.

Thank you

A lot has changed compared to the old instructions, so I'll gradually update the OP to reflect helpful FAQ, improved instructions, etc...

I also may have figured out how to get the latest Google Play system update. But that's unconfirmed. Since I don't have (or want) testers.

Welcome back! I'm glad to see you back on here hope that whatever you had going on in your life was resolved.

ImjustSaiyan92 said:
Welcome back! I'm glad to see you back on here hope that whatever you had going on in your life was resolved.
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At least 10 years off till a refutable research facility would even consider injecting my retina with stem cells. And I won't have a diagnosis on my lung nodules for months or longer. But it would be the slowest growing metastatic colon to lung cancer my oncologist has ever seen but I currently have my bets on a benign inflammatory condition or pulmonary fibrosis as a result of chemotherapy. Haven't found a bookie to take my bets, yet...
But now I can be hella rude to people who don't read with the two eyes they have because I essentially have one eye lol.

Thanks for this, finally.
What is soda, pills and alcohol about?

twoxa said:
Thanks for this, finally.
What is soda, pills and alcohol about?
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Speech on device API and utter nonsense (it's also a song, that is absolutely appropriate to post on the family friendly environment of XDA)

I installed it the way it was explained .. but what was to change .. did not see change ..

douglasmietto said:
I installed it the way it was explained .. but what was to change .. did not see change ..
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Then you did it wrong.

TotallyAnxious said:
Then you did it wrong.
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I'm just not using the Kirisakura kernel ..

douglasmietto said:
I'm just not using the Kirisakura kernel ..
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Or following the instructions.
You're not going to get any helpful support from me with one sentence posts that demonstrate you didn't follow instructions lol.
There are many "it"s you must install. And not everything is in the OP because I shouldn't have to tell users on a developer forum that something like a Terminal app is required when I say modules are needed as prerequisites that require a Terminal app for set up of those prerequisites.
The kernel has absolutely no effect on making this work or not. And you thinking so demonstrates the "learning curve" for my instructions are to difficult for you.
You're going to waste your time if you're gonna spend time trying to get the right kernel for something that doesn't need a right kernel.

yes it was installed .. what changed the alarm clock .. changed the calculator and install the google phone from the play store ... so you mean it is not a simple magisk module? have other necessary settings through a terminal to work correctly?

douglasmietto said:
yes it was installed .. what changed the alarm clock .. changed the calculator and install the google phone from the play store ... so you mean it is not a simple magisk module? have other necessary settings through a terminal to work correctly?
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I'm saying you can't even read my OP with two eyes, and I have one eye...
I will not be responding to you anymore.

TotallyAnxious said:
I'm saying you can't even read my OP with two eyes, and I have one eye...
I will not be responding to you anymore.
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I followed exactly all the steps of the op .. and I noticed that the rom got a little faster .. I'm sorry if I asked any stupid questions .. I didn't want to cause you any trouble

douglasmietto said:
I followed exactly all the steps of the op .. and I noticed that the rom got a little faster .. I'm sorry if I asked any stupid questions .. I didn't want to cause you any trouble
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If you expected some drastic visual changes this isn't it haha
So far so good here, nice having working voicemail in Google phone app.

"& "Cross Compiled Binaries" with the bare minimum of sed installed to /system/bin. They are on the magisk module repo."
Can you elaborate here? What's sed? And why they should be installed?

Installed it, everything was working except one snag, my settings was FCing everytime I tried to go to the app section.
It's something on my end most likely as I am using Bliss (which is different than your rom,) and it probably isn't compatible.
Love the work regardless and again I'm glad to see you back!

ImjustSaiyan92 said:
Installed it, everything was working except one snag, my settings was FCing everytime I tried to go to the app section.
It's something on my end most likely as I am using Bliss (which is different than your rom,) and it probably isn't compatible.
Love the work regardless and again I'm glad to see you back!
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This is the kind of user I like.

douglasmietto said:
calm friend .. i don't know why so much stress if you're nervous go fishing to relax .. if you don't want to answer questions about your work, just don't post to the XDA group.
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Why are you on a developer forum asking to be spoon fed information?

Android 11 Beta Root?

Is the beta rootable thru the usual method? Or did I need to download a beta or canary version of Magisk?

Rooted the beta thru canary version of Magisk. The beta is definitely not a daily driver at this point. Almost all Google apps won't stay open. They just close, even in safe mode. Also, getting lots of random reboots.
Edit: Removing canary magisk has caused most of the issues I was experiencing to stop.

Yeah, get rid of that app or keep that app and use mirror versions of the Google Apps and manually update those as they come available. Google Play once it detects any one app on a huge list of "risky" apps Google will shut it down for "security " reasons, they have been known to blacklist accounts and or devices and completely wash any account attached to it for violation of "their piss poor security provisions") not sure how that's legal and it's completely b.s but whatever. There are all kinds of ways around it, it all boils down to, knowing what your doing, what to look for and basically manipulating the Google Apps or play store, it's really about how important is it to ya, because all the work around are time consuming and a pain in the ass at best, hope that helps?
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Cobra8305 said:
Yeah, get rid of that app or keep that app and use mirror versions of the Google Apps and manually update those as they come available. Google Play once it detects any one app on a huge list of "risky" apps Google will shut it down for "security " reasons, they have been known to blacklist accounts and or devices and completely wash any account attached to it for violation of "their piss poor security provisions") not sure how that's legal and it's completely b.s but whatever. There are all kinds of ways around it, it all boils down to, knowing what your doing, what to look for and basically manipulating the Google Apps or play store, it's really about how important is it to ya, because all the work around are time consuming and a pain in the ass at best, hope that helps?
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I've been rooting my phones since I first got a Razr. I have never had an issue with Google's security. My guess is since we have to use a canary version of Magisk, it has got some bugs that need to be squashed

A majority of the issues is Google, it started around the first of the year, they are playing I'm your daddy and you will comply games. Samsung is getting ready at some point in the future to wash their hands of Google/Android and do their own thing over it and other issues. Google has gotten to big for their pee pants and all of us have started feeling the backlash of Google and their big daddy fight
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Cobra8305 said:
A majority of the issues is Google, it started around the first of the year, they are playing I'm your daddy and you will comply games. Samsung is getting ready at some point in the future to wash their hands of Google/Android and do their own thing over it and other issues. Google has gotten to big for their pee pants and all of us have started feeling the backlash of Google and their big daddy fight
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Well, if Google is gonna start acting like Apple might as well get an iPhone

Using beta Android and rooted it using the canary method. It's behaving pretty stable. On the first beta my phone was crashing and bootlooping (at lockscreen) as I had enabled the media resumption feature. But I was able to disable it from safe mode. But since beta 1.5 (June 17 update) it's working fine too.
Only issue I'm seeing (not necessarily to this update) I'm unable to have more than 2-3 apps in memory. They reload everytime. I guess 4Gb ram is too less

supercfc said:
Using beta Android and rooted it using the canary method. It's behaving pretty stable. On the first beta my phone was crashing and bootlooping (at lockscreen) as I had enabled the media resumption feature. But I was able to disable it from safe mode. But since beta 1.5 (June 17 update) it's working fine too.
Only issue I'm seeing (not necessarily to this update) I'm unable to have more than 2-3 apps in memory. They reload everytime. I guess 4Gb ram is too less
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How did you load the beta, system update or flash factory image? I enrolled in the beta program and did the system update.

darkstar73 said:
How did you load the beta, system update or flash factory image? I enrolled in the beta program and did the system update.
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I was on a custom rom. So I had flashed a factory image and then a OTA for 1.5 beta.

supercfc said:
I was on a custom rom. So I had flashed a factory image and then a OTA for 1.5 beta.
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At some point, I will clean flash and see if that helps. I only use root for ad blocking and the non-root methods aren't very good

darkstar73 said:
At some point, I will clean flash and see if that helps. I only use root for ad blocking and the non-root methods aren't very good
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Just simply go under settings to "Network & Internet --> Advanced (Or "More Connection Settings" on other phones) --> Select Private DNS mode --> Private DNS Provider Hostname --> type the following: dns.adguard.com and hit save. You are done! Now you have system-wide Ad blocking on all apps. It's that simple. No need for root or anything else. I've tried this on my Note 10 + 5G and my Pixel 3 XL and it works like a charm.

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Just simply go under settings to "Network & Internet --> Advanced (Or "More Connection Settings" on other phones) --> Select Private DNS mode --> Private DNS Provider Hostname --> type the following: dns.adguard.com and hit save. You are done! Now you have system-wide Ad blocking on all apps. It's that simple. No need for root or anything else. I've tried this on my Note 10 + 5G and my Pixel 3 XL and it works like a charm.
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I had already added adguard in the private dns settings. While it does block ads, using energized pro with root is much more effective at blocking ads.

I did a clean install of Android 11 Beta and rooted again thru canary Magisk. Same issues with Google apps closing or acting sluggish. I decided to turn on Magiskhide for all things google and that fixed the issue. Looks like Google is clamping down harder on Magisk users

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I did a clean install of Android 11 Beta and rooted again thru canary Magisk. Same issues with Google apps closing or acting sluggish. I decided to turn on Magiskhide for all things google and that fixed the issue. Looks like Google is clamping down harder on Magisk users
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Installed the factory image (less -w) of 1.5 and latest canary. No issues at all with Google apps or any apps actually. Apparently its case by case.

qualitymove13 said:
Installed the factory image (less -w) of 1.5 and latest canary. No issues at all with Google apps or any apps actually. Apparently its case by case.
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Could be. My Pixel has been plagued with issues since I got it. Bought it off Swappa. The funny thing is if I revert to 9, the phone runs smooth.

I'm on beta and flashed the latest canary over the weekend. No issues to report with any app so far.

javadahut said:
I'm on beta and flashed the latest canary over the weekend. No issues to report with any app so far.
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It's Android 11 working ok for "daily driver"? my concern it's for my banking apps my country has really really bad devs, and take like 10 months to fix stuff hahaha but it's reliable for a daily driver? i don't mind random crash times to times, and i guess is a "small" upgrade from android 10, I will wait next month the next beta

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It's Android 11 working ok for "daily driver"? my concern it's for my banking apps my country has really really bad devs, and take like 10 months to fix stuff hahaha but it's reliable for a daily driver? i don't mind random crash times to times, and i guess is a "small" upgrade from android 10, I will wait next month the next beta
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I've been using it as my daily driver. No major issues.

zenthek said:
It's Android 11 working ok for "daily driver"? my concern it's for my banking apps my country has really really bad devs, and take like 10 months to fix stuff hahaha but it's reliable for a daily driver? i don't mind random crash times to times, and i guess is a "small" upgrade from android 10, I will wait next month the next beta
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It's great for me. Signal strength took a bit of a hit, but otherwise no real issues that I can see.

For what it's worth to anyone wanting to try the beta 2 root, it doesn't work. After fastboot flashing the canary magisk (app-debug.apk) the digitizer stops working on boot. I'm guessing topjohnwu removed the other apk for that reason, but save yourself the effort until he gets the other apk out.
Edit: I was able to get past the "beta warning" popup, by plugging in a mouse, but outside of that workaround, the digitizer still doesn't work. Root DID take, but only with the digitizer caveat.

Question Messenger on Poco F3

So to get rid of the whole square bubbles problem I have installed a previous messenger apk that has bubbles.
But even though I have automatic updates on play store turned off, after a couple of hours I check and the messenger in already updated through play store to the latest version. Anyone knows what could be wrong?
Is there any other option I have to turn off so that the app doesnt auto update? Thanks in advance.

Anyone?

YOU TURNED OFF THE UPDATES FROM THE APP'S PLAYSTORE PAGE AS WELL, RIGHT ?

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YOU TURNED OFF THE UPDATES FROM THE APP'S PLAYSTORE PAGE, RIGHT ?
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Yes of course, thats what I wrote up front. Thats why its so strange. Is there any other option to turn off that is causing messenger to auto update?

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Yes of course, thats what I wrote up front. Thats why its so strange. Is there any other option to turn off that is causing messenger to auto update
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nothing I can think of now but have you tried getting system updates or moving to Xiaomi EU custom rom? cuz fixing that problem by just sticking to an old app ver isn't really the ultimate solution
Well, you could still uninstall updates "I have never had a MIUI, so not sure about" that

laid1995 said:
nothing I can think of now but have you tried getting system updates or moving to Xiaomi EU custom rom? cuz fixing that problem by just sticking to an old app ver isn't really the ultimate solution
Well, you could still uninstall updates "I have never had a MIUI, so not sure about" that
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Flashing a custom rom to solve that is an option I have no time to bother to do so. It could create more trouble for me than just an app auto updating without me wanting to.

Android 12 introduced a native API for chat bubbles, and now all apps can make use of this API - SMS apps, internet messaging apps, and Messenger chose to switch from their own bubbles implementation to Android 12's native one as well.
A user on reddit made a modified Messenger apk, which makes Messenger believe it is installed on an earlier Android version, without native chat bubbles. This makes Messenger use its own bubbles implementation. This obviously cannot be updated through the Play Store, so it won't suddenly revert to the official APK.
https://www.reddit.com/r/android_beta/comments/ms7kj5

OrionFOTL said:
Android 12 introduced a native API for chat bubbles, and now all apps can make use of this API - SMS apps, internet messaging apps, and Messenger chose to switch from their own bubbles implementation to Android 12's native one as well.
A user on reddit made a modified Messenger apk, which makes Messenger believe it is installed on an earlier Android version, without native chat bubbles. This makes Messenger use its own bubbles implementation. This obviously cannot be updated through the Play Store, so it won't suddenly revert to the official APK.
https://www.reddit.com/r/android_beta/comments/ms7kj5
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Has anyone scanned this on virustotal?

It's safe