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I first found this forum when I got my SGSII and read about the yellow tint issue, bad colour banding etc. It drove me insane the first month because I couldn't get over it. I eventually got over it after some time due to it getting "old".
I hoped my Note II would have a good screen but it seems the tint can be found in all AMOLED screens. It was easy to notice the yellow tint in my SGSII but it was very weak compared to others so I were happy. On my Note II you can notice it (I think) if you concentrate really hard and it saddens me. You also have the weak lines (colour banding?).
So, how do you feel about this? Is it something you can get over and just accept that Samsung make worse screens but with awesome hardware? The reason I stick with Samsung is because I love them and I wouldn't want to choose another brand. But still, it hurts me when I realized that Note II still has these issues. I understand all manufacturers has their problems but we're in 2012, is it impossible to create a screen that is "perfect"?
Please no "I don't have this problem, my screen is perfect". We all know everyone's phone have some kind of this issue. Is it a issue or is it something you have to accept?
I don't have this problem, my screen is perfect. I'm saying this because it is. I don't see any tint or anything.
For me the screen is georgious. I like it very much, the screen doesn`t have that flickering sometimes the Note1 had. The colours are vivid, full and the screentones are custimizable.
gee2012 said:
For me the screen is georgious. I like it very much, the screen doesn`t have that flickering sometimes the Note1 had. The colours are vivid, full and the screentones are custimizable.
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It is indeed awesome, but the issue is still there. I don't like to have brightness on because of possible burn in, I keep it at 0%.
SweFox said:
I first found this forum when I got my SGSII and read about the yellow tint issue, bad colour banding etc. It drove me insane the first month because I couldn't get over it. I eventually got over it after some time due to it getting "old".
I hoped my Note II would have a good screen but it seems the tint can be found in all AMOLED screens. It was easy to notice the yellow tint in my SGSII but it was very weak compared to others so I were happy. On my Note II you can notice it (I think) if you concentrate really hard and it saddens me. You also have the weak lines (colour banding?).
So, how do you feel about this? Is it something you can get over and just accept that Samsung make worse screens but with awesome hardware? The reason I stick with Samsung is because I love them and I wouldn't want to choose another brand. But still, it hurts me when I realized that Note II still has these issues. I understand all manufacturers has their problems but we're in 2012, is it impossible to create a screen that is "perfect"?
Please no "I don't have this problem, my screen is perfect". We all know everyone's phone have some kind of this issue. Is it a issue or is it something you have to accept?
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Is it true the Note II screen is brighter than Note 1?
I didn't have a chance to compare.
On the other hand, Note 1 colours are definitely more vivid and more awesomelicious!
And mine after 6 months, have a strong yellowish tint together with a burnt screen.
I'm not impressed with AMOLED's longevity.
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Is it true the Note II screen is brighter than Note 1?
I didn't have a chance to compare.
On the other hand, Note 1 colours are definitely more vivid and more awesomelicious!
And mine after 6 months, have a strong yellowish tint together with a burnt screen.
I'm not impressed with AMOLED's longevity.
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My own Note II aren't very strong in brightness but others might be. My SGSII definitely have stronger brightness! My SGSII didn't have any burn in, maybe due to the fact that I keep the brightness at 0%. To scared for anything else hah.
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Liar.
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I think mod really have to see a solution of your random rant on this section all you do is saying bad things about the note, I'm really sorry that you had bad experience with your note 2 but no one is forcing you to keep using it, get over it and stop trolling for god sake...
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I think mod really have to see a solution of your random rant on this section all you do is saying bad things about the note, I'm really sorry that you had bad experience with your note 2 but no one is forcing you to keep using it, get over it and stop trolling for god sake...
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I doubt his screen is perfect, I asked nicely for no such posts because we all know it's not true.
AMOLED is juvenile technology. It's definitely not ready for public use. Pentile displays look horrible, even at a higher resolution, burn in occurs incredibly quickly and colours are over saturated to disguise the quality. Personally haven't seen the colour banding myself but enough people report it to make it a real issue.
AMOLED is the way forward, but it is not ready for everyday use. Samsung need to put their heads together and get production rates sorted out. Only when they can start churning out RGB displays that are correctly calibrated and don't suffer from burn in or tinting after a year can they really consider AMOLED suitable for mainstream consumption.
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I think mod really have to see a solution of your random rant on this section all you do is saying bad things about the note, I'm really sorry that you had bad experience with your note 2 but no one is forcing you to keep using it, get over it and stop trolling for god sake...
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That's the point... he doesn't even have a Note II... he's just complaining about a Note I...
Haven't noticed any problem with the screen because I am not looking for it. If you have to concentrate that hard to find it, maybe you should concentrate on something else entirely like going out and enjoying the day?
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That's the point... he doesn't even have a Note II... he's just complaining about a Note I...
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Yes. I am complaining about Note 1. I'm glad they solved the issues in Note II. I saw my friend's Note II a while ago. Indeed they solved most of the issues.
IM IMPRESSED.
But I still suspect longevity is an issue.
EDIT: BLUE TINT.
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Won't it be possible to tune the colour of the screen when roms become more developed?
My SGS used to have a yellow tint too. Increasing the blue in the built in colour tuning app changed it to pure white.
I think a while ago I remember reading someone using an app from the play store to tweak the colour of their SGS 2 screen too. I'll try & find it.
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Here it is. It's called screen adjuster.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa
Try increasing the blue or lower the red & green and see if that gets rid of your yellow tint. You have to be rooted.
Well, I have to agree that Note has "burned mark" stain like on the screen. Mine was the first batch for Malaysia. I also noticed the same stain like effect on the Samsung's Technician's Note. But I have no problem asking Samsung to change the display for me. After replaced, there is no problem with it for about a year now. Could it be that the first batch of display have such problem?
For Note II, it's crystal clear. No stain mark. I suggest that anyone who is not satisfied with the screen should either exchange the phone or have the display replaced.
Guess some had unlucky screens, but i really like the Note2 screen. And I got one white and one grey, both have np with tints, flicker or bad colors.
But i am not the one to speak after years off use tho, as I change mobile quite often. But Note i use longer then I usually use any mobile as the functions and Spen on note is hard to find on other devices.
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After using the original Note for over 8 months I had no issues with its screen at all except for the very light black clipping under very specifc conditions,.And now almost after one month with my Note II, I can confidently say that this is the best screen I have ever had,no yellow or black issues,so the OP either has a faulty unit or he is a troll.
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There is not a single AMOLED screen which is problem free. Be it tint or any other thing. It's quite true that people who are saying my screen is 'perfect' either don't know what a perfect screen is or simply lying.
And yes, my Note 2 screen has Yellowish tint, but it's on a much lower level than my S2 and spreaded all over the display unlike S2's only left side area. So I'm more or less happy with it. This is my 5th OLED displayed phone and NONE was perfect, NONE. Only which was my favorite and near perfect was Wave S8500 screen.
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Trolling again? For someone without the note 2, you sure spend a lot of time whining about it.
If people arent happy with it, they should get it replaced or sell and move on.
We have two n7100's in the house. Both are fine.
Note I didnt say perfect because its very rare that something is perfect. But we arent going to stare at the screen from 2mm away checking every pixel.
And everything will have a flaw in someone elses eyes.
So going by the op's logic, anyone that says otherwise is a liar?
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There is not a single AMOLED screen which is problem free. Be it tint or any other thing. It's quite true that people who are saying my screen is 'perfect' either don't know what a perfect screen is or simply lying.
And yes, my Note 2 screen has Yellowish tint, but it's on a much lower level than my S2 and spreaded all over the display unlike S2's only left side area. So I'm more or less happy with it. This is my 5th OLED displayed phone and NONE was perfect, NONE. Only which was my favorite and near perfect was Wave S8500 screen.
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Furthermore Im mot really happy if someone has to tell me to lower down my brightness. Its unacceptable. AMOLED's are what I call still in the beta stage. Its not ready for primetime.
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To be honest my screen has no tinting like what the op said.
Also, I don't get why people don't use it at a normal brightness level. If it burns in then have it replaced while it's under warranty. That's what I did with the s2.
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Hi can people please verify if this is a problem or normal. I noticed the whites on the screen have a yellow hue to them from what I would call a normal position. But if I tip it at an angle the whites get purer and the colours better all together. Really bugging me. Any thoughts?
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Was just going to post this exact same thing, you bet me to it by 20 minutes!
Yes, my whites have a yellow tint when viewed head on, but become perfectly white when tilted at a slight angle. This is easily seen when viewing websites.
I assume it's due to the technology, disappointing given all the fanfare surrounding this display, but I still wouldn't change this tablet for any other, it's still far superior all round.
I have it as well . Could be by design and part of the AMOLED. Not a defect per se?
Yeah I would never replace now it's normal and not just mine, just a shame because at an angle you can see what whites it can produce. Bit confusing why it's the worse head on?? Could it be software possibly? Slightly dissapointed as one of the things I didn't like about my galaxy note 10.1 2014 ed display was the yellowish whites.
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This is pretty typical of Amoled displays.
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Really weird. Why wouldn't it the best on head on view? Confusing
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yeah its amoled. my gs4 did the same thing.
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So weird. But dossapointed with that. The screen is stunning other than that. Can it be adjusted through software? It can obvioulst produce better whites then it shows on the screen head on
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I have the same issue, in fact, I've had this issue on all of my AMOLED devices. Head on view is either green/yellowish and from an angle is actually not pure white, as many here assume, but it has a cold blue tint, which makes whites look whiter. My Galaxy Note 2 that I still use has way more yellow hue on the whites but it's more evened out on the screen whereas on the Tab S it's always like a big round spot in the middle of the screen that moves around when I tilt it, which is kind of annoying as it's more noticeable.. I've been thinking about returning my Tab S because of this issue plus the fact that the battery life is horrible.. absolutely horrible. Worst battery life I've ever experienced. Should have at least double the battery life...
Yep mine has a very subtle blue tint too, but it's near enough to be of no concern. Battery life was terrible on mine, but only for the first few days, it needs to cycle through a few charges first to settle in, it's way better now after a weeks use.
Bit gutted. Was hoping the whites would be much purer. Other than that this tablet is a beast. Battery not too bad. Not great but a lot have said it takes a few days so will drain it and charge it a few times before I make a real judgement
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Not to be the fly in the ointment here while everyone is agreeing, but the whites on my 10.5 are stark white straight on without even a hint of yellow. I am wondering if perhaps the people seeing this yellow effect are also the ones experiencing significant stuttering and lag?
I have not seen this issue mentioned in any retailer user reviews and professional reviewers have extoled the whiteness of the whites. I'm sure you are seeing what you are seeing but I don't believe it is common for this screen.
Have you tried setting it on Cinema Mode and making sure Reading Mode is disabled? Also try disabling auto adjust on screen tone.
I would compare the white on my screen to a piece of typing paper. Here's a screen shot - this is pretty much exactly what I see in person. Lol, sadly if you are seeing your whites as yellow this will also appear yellow. I suggest you view it on your PC
Can you post an image of your yellow or blue screen. I'd like to see what you are seeing.
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Not to be the fly in the ointment here while everyone is agreeing, but the whites on my 10.5 are stark white straight on without even a hint of yellow. I am wondering if perhaps the people seeing this yellow effect are also the ones experiencing significant stuttering and lag?
I have not seen this issue mentioned in any retailer user reviews and professional reviewers have extoled the whiteness of the whites. I'm sure you are seeing what you are seeing but I don't believe it is common for this screen.
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Well I must be very unlucky with my galaxy s5 and galaxy note 2 because they both exhibit these traits which are very common with amoled displays. Google it and you will see. Whites have never been as good on an amoled display compared to an LCD display. It has nothing to do with lag and stutter! This has been discussed in many a samsung forum over the years. It's not just a yellow tint, but also pink, it just depends. I'm used to it now because the benefits of amoled far outweigh the negatives.
All I can say is cherish your 'perfect' 10.5. As it may be one of a kind
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Well I must be very unlucky with my galaxy s5 and galaxy note 2 because they both exhibit these traits which are very common with amoled displays. Google it and you will see. Whites have never been as good on an amoled display compared to an LCD display. It has nothing to do with lag and stutter! This has been discussed in many a samsung forum over the years. It's not just a yellow tint, but also pink, it just depends. I'm used to it now because the benefits of amoled far outweigh the negatives.
All I can say is cherish your 'perfect' 10.5. As it may be one of a kind
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I'm not disputing what you see, however I did post a screen shot and that is exactly what I see. I recommend you view it on your PC if your tab isn't reproducing whites properly. My question regarding the lag or stutter was to see if there may be a connection between this screen color issue and lag or stutter.
If you read Tab S reviews by both professionals and owners making comments at retail sites I don't believe you will see a lot of complaints about this issue. Also, the amoled screen on the Tab S is supposed to be the most advanced ever. The presence of discoloration on prior devices does not apply here.
As a matter of fact, I don't recall a single major Tab S reviewer mentioning this as a problem. There is the possibility your Tab S is defective.
P.S., I own a Note 3 and the whites on my Tab S are far superior. Whites on my Note 3 do have a slight yellow cast as you describe.
Can you post a picture of what you are describing for me?
i dont find any tint at all on the whites of my note 3. i remember on my s2 and note 2 there was but my note 3 so far none...
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I'm not disputing what you see, however I did post a screen shot and that is exactly what I see. I recommend you view it on your PC if your tab isn't reproducing whites properly. My question regarding the lag or stutter was to see if there may be a connection between this screen color issue and lag or stutter.
If you read Tab S reviews by both professionals and owners making comments at retail sites I don't believe you will see a lot of complaints about this issue. Also, the amoled screen on the Tab S is supposed to be the most advanced ever. The presence of discoloration on prior devices does not apply here.
As a matter of fact, I don't recall a single major Tab S reviewer mentioning this. There is the possibility your Tab S is defective.
P.S., I own a Note 3 and the whites on my Tab S are far superior. Whites on my Note 3 do have a slight yellow cast as you describe.
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Posting a screen shot is pointless because everyone's screen is calibrated differently and you only really notice the off white colour when tilting the screen slightly. No major galaxy s5 or galaxy note 2 reviewer ever mentioned this either, but you can find plenty of stories in forums regarding the 'problem'. It's common knowledge in the forums I frequent. I don't consider my tab s to be defective. I consider amoled still in its infancy and will be improved on in future iterations.
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Posting a screen shot is pointless because everyone's screen is calibrated differently and you only really notice the off white colour when tilting the screen slightly. No major galaxy s5 or galaxy note 2 reviewer ever mentioned this either, but you can find plenty of stories in forums regarding the 'problem'. It's common knowledge in the forums I frequent. I don't consider my tab s to be defective. I consider amoled still in its infancy and will be improved on in future iterations.
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In the OP the author states that his problem is a yellow screen when looking straight on, not tilted. Of course the screen will show odd colors when tilted but who uses their tablet in that manner? Also you need to keep in mind that people posting in Forums have come there because they have a problem. It is not a fair representation of the marketplace as a whole. Forum posts regarding amoled performance of prior devices don't really apply here as those were less advanced screens.
Regardless, the screen shot I posted is what I see. Whites are white on my device. I do not question what you see although I would still like to see a screen shot out of curiosity.
To directly answer the OP's question as to whether whites appearing yellow when viewed directly is normal, I would say based upon my experience that no, it is not normal.
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In the OP the author states that his problem is a yellow screen when looking straight on, not tilted. Of course the screen will show odd colors when tilted but who uses their tablet in that manner? Also you need to keep in mind that people posting in Forums have come there because they have a problem. It is not a fair representation of the marketplace as a whole. Forum posts regarding amoled performance of prior devices don't really apply here as those were less advanced screens.
Regardless, the screen shot I posted is what I see. Whites are white. I do not question what you see although I would still like to see a screen shot out of curiosity.
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Looking straight on or tilting slightly, whites are not pure white like a half decent LCD is.
Of course people in these forums are a fair representation of the marketplace. Without them we would only have the 'professional' reviewers, who are never bias, to go on. Yeah right. Give me a free gadget and I will write a glowing review. Thankyou very much, kerching! ...
It's nice to know what problems may or may not arise if we buy one of these latest and greatest gadgets. Also we would never find out about different tweaks, roms, etc, that make our gadgets run even better if it wasn't for these people.
You won't get a screenshot out of me for the reason I stated before.
I have nothing else to say on this topic other than what I said before.... Cherish your perfect tab!
Farewell.
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Of course people in these forums are a fair representation of the marketplace. Without them we would only have the 'professional' reviewers, who are never bias, to go on. Yeah right. Give me a free gadget and I will write a glowing review. Thankyou very much, kerching! ...
It's nice to know what problems may or may not arise if we buy one of these latest and greatest gadgets. Also we would never find out about different tweaks, roms, etc, that make our gadgets run even better if it wasn't for these people.
You won't get a screenshot out of me for the reason I stated before.
I have nothing else to say on this topic other than what I said before.... Cherish your perfect tab!
Farewell.
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I'm not sure why you are being combative. The OP is concerned about a yellow hue when viewing the tablet directly and I was hoping to help him with that problem by sharing that it is not normal. I also owned the Tab Pro and found whites there to be grayish compared to the Tab S.
We have an excellent source of unbiased views from average people, those who have purchased from retail sites such as BestBuy. As far as professional reviews always being biased because they received a free tablet, I think that would mean we would be seeing a lot more glowing reviews out there. Some can be quite brutal, especially Verge and CNET where they tend to love Apple products and disdain Android and Windows.
My Tab S is not special. Based upon what I've read it is quite normal.
Good luck. Enjoy your tablet
I'll take a screen shot if you like, but you'll have to tell me how to do it! But I doubt it will show anything as I believe it's to do with the new tech (high res amoled) and is therefore device specific. Also people's colour perception will differ and therefore some may see it while others won't.
There's always a few tradeoffs been at the cutting edge of tech. I bought this tab mainly because it has the same screen technology that my future TV will have when I upgrade in 4 or 5 years time. I'm hoping by then that any teething problems will have been sorted. This Tab is just a step in that direction.
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I've just looked at the screen on my HTC One S and just noticed for the first time that it does the exact same thing, and that must be three years old now, just shows what you can find when looking for it. This is undoubtedly a symptom of the tech.
Is this normal? Greys have a green tint which is really noticeable on low brightness. Is this a limitation of AMOLED? But I don't recall this issue on my 6P or Note 4.
Hmm. Not having this issue...
Greys are really greenish. Though it happens only at some certain brightness level (a little more than the lowest).
The panel apparently is of low quality and has issues with greys. It's detailed in the anandtech.com review
Not noticing this on mine either.
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I may have a slight tint on mine on greys, only on one half of the screen though. I'm colourblind so it could be green. I'm thinking it's more purple-ish though...
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Greys are really greenish. Though it happens only at some certain brightness level (a little more than the lowest).
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The panel apparently is of low quality and has issues with greys. It's detailed in the anandtech.com review
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Not noticing this on mine either.
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I may have a slight tint on mine on greys, only on one half of the screen though. I'm colourblind so it could be green. I'm thinking it's more purple-ish though...
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Yes what I had experienced from my last 3 phones I.e galaxy s2,s3,s4,s4 mini,s5 all of em which had amoled screen all have this thing. Its like if u seen u can't able to unseen. But its hard to notice. I think these displays are rather builded like this to work. Even my brother's new s7 has this thing.
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Yes what I had experienced from my last 3 phones I.e galaxy s2,s3,s4,s4 mini,s5 all of em which had amoled screen all have this thing. Its like if u seen u can't able to unseen. But its hard to notice. I think these displays are rather builded like this to work. Even my brother's new s7 has this thing.
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On only part of the screen though? I know when tilting AMOLED displays that can happen but head on I don't know. (I've avoided AMOLED up until now because my last couple experiences with older ones was not so nice)
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On only part of the screen though? I know when tilting AMOLED displays that can happen but head on I don't know. (I've avoided AMOLED up until now because my last couple experiences with older ones was not so nice)
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Yes on part of the screen at bottom its much noticeable in dark.
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Yes on part of the screen at bottom its much noticeable in dark.
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Guess that answers that, cheers!. (although mine might be right side of the screen, not bottom)
On my phone, the bottom part is also "greener" than the upper part. This is especially visible when brightness is set low (which I do when not outside, because it totally suffices).
Do more people have this problem?
Would returning the unit and getting a new OP3 make sense, or are these unevennesses typical??
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On my phone, the bottom part is also "greener" than the upper part. This is especially visible when brightness is set low (which I do when not outside, because it totally suffices).
Do more people have this problem?
Would returning the unit and getting a new OP3 make sense, or are these unevennesses typical??
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I'm wondering if it's just an AMOLED thing... If it's really really bad then you may be better off RMA-ing it of course.
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The panel apparently is of low quality and has issues with greys. It's detailed in the anandtech.com review
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The findings on Anandtech have nothing to do with the quality and everything to do with the calibration, which is just software.
Hi, is it darker like the pics from my thread? I think I have the same issue on my display, just at the middle of the screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/dark-line-oled-screen-t3402293
One thought came to me: In the upper half of the OP3 are the parts which get warm when the phone "works". Perhaps the part of the screen which is warmed up regularly loses a bit of green tint, while the lower, colder part remains as it is??? Just a thought...
I get a weird purpley/dark colour on greys and when scrolling white font on black background, but only on minimum brightness.
After reducing brightness below a threshold (just above the minimum) the colours across the display seem to shift
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I got my replacement phone today. And. The display is even more worse. The colors are uneven, like some of them have here. The bottom is greener and the top slighlty pinkier/the correct color.
Argh. That's what I'm afraid of (sent my device in for replacement on Saturday):
That, as a replacement, simply someone grabs a box with a new device and sends it to me, without testing.
Edios, what did you write in the service request as your reason why you want a replacement? Did you write about the display problems?
Welcome to the lottery...
Does anyone know: If the 2nd device also has a defect, and the 14 day return time since I got the 1st device is already over, can I demand from Oneplus that they take back the 2nd device and that I get my money back??
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Argh. That's what I'm afraid of (sent my device in for replacement on Saturday):
That, as a replacement, simply someone grabs a box with a new device and sends it to me, without testing.
Edios, what did you write in the service request as your reason why you want a replacement? Did you write about the display problems?
Welcome to the lottery...
Does anyone know: If the 2nd device also has a defect, and the 14 day return time since I got the 1st device is already over, can I demand from Oneplus that they take back the 2nd device and that I get my money back??
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I didn't even mention the issues, Amazon immediately gave me a replacement.
The problem is, they provide only a single replacement and now insisting to give a refund. But I want this device cos there's no other device that I'm interested in. And it's out of stock also.
For what it's worth, these sound like typical AMOLED issues. There are long threads in the Galaxy S6, S7, etc. forums with people experiencing the exact same thing. AMOLEDs just seem to not be as consistent as LCDs in the quality control department and it's always just the luck of the draw whether you get one with green or pink tints or not.
Hi guys
I have been struggling with the screen on my phone and i want to know if its only me who is having the grainy screen or there are more people having the same issue. Any solid color on the phone appear to be noisy and dirty. People in google are persisting that this is one of the characteristics of the screen and is normal. I cant believe that.
I have had one RMA and the second XL is the same as the first one, first device was shipped from the factory on 31 October and the second one on 31 november.
Should i stop overlooking this issue and live with it or should i push for another RMA?
Compared to my Note 8, the Pixel 2 XL is indeed grainy, however I found it's only noticeable on white/light gray backgrounds, and is hardly noticeable above 35% brightness. My friend's Pixel 2 XL is the same way so I assume this is "normal" for this phone.
The display is a grainy piece of ****. Had 4 phones, all the same, all noticeable even at max brightness on white backgrounds. Makes the screen look like paper. Photos look noisier when viewed on the phone as a result too. If it bothers you, best move onto a new phone.
I've heard the reports of a grainy screen. I've seen 5 Pixel 2 XLs (3 in a Verizon store, mine and a co-workers) and none of them have been grainy.
jimv1983 said:
I've heard the reports of a grainy screen. I've seen 5 Pixel 2 XLs (3 in a Verizon store, mine and a co-workers) and none of them have been grainy.
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That's a different news. There is also another fact that its not visible if you don't really look for it on my phone but when you see the grain there is no way back. That's when you would say ignorance is a bliss. Still i would like to hear more from others if there is noise (i rather call it noise) on the screen or not.
Guyinlaca said:
Compared to my Note 8, the Pixel 2 XL is indeed grainy, however I found it's only noticeable on white/light gray backgrounds, and is hardly noticeable above 35% brightness. My friend's Pixel 2 XL is the same way so I assume this is "normal" for this phone.
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Thanks for your reply im more interested to look into differences in grain visibility on pixel 2 xl's, because i have read very uneven comparisons for the same device and none is consistent. Some say they see it some say they don't. I can see the grain in all situations with 20% brightness and also with 100%, if there are some cases which phones are grainless (if that's even a word) i would like to report this to google. In your case all of what you have seen are dirty AF. ( They call it dirty screen effect on tv's)
I had 2 Pixel 2 XL over the last 3 weeks. 1st one did not have any noticeable grainy screen. Had to exchange for spontaneous reboots.
The 2nd Pixel I have now suffers from what you are describing, the graininess is notable from minimum to maximum brightness most pronounced on light grey and white backgrounds. In main setting menu, scrolling black text on white background such as websites and YouTube comments. In fact, this is noticeable to me on the 1st setup screen when you power on a new Pixel the 1st time. My looks like snowflake of old CRT screen, or using a matte screen protector. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to capture with any camera I have.
There are couple of long threads here you can search for grainy screen, and you will find few posts on it.
Check out Ars Technica's pictures of the grainy screen.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...view-the-best-android-phone-you-can-buy/2/#h3
Here is Erica Griffin from YouTube on the same issue (6:40):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JjbMT_x6CM&t=503s
Both of my Pixels was manufactured on 13/11/17, and they also have different degree where blue shift becomes apparent, so I think it is a pure luck if the next Pixel's screen you get might not have a grainy screen that you will notice.
At this point, from all my research it seems most screen of the Pixel 2 XL will have some imperfections compared to latest Samsung screens find in iPhone, Galaxy, OnePlus and the smaller Pixel 2. This is due to the immaturity of LG's OLED screen technology and the lack of any batch or individual screen calibration at the factory.
For me, the whole package of smooth UI and fastest security updates means I will overlook the Pixel's screen imperfection compared the my Galaxy S8+. But it does irk me for Google to charge similar price as Galaxy/Note and iPhone, when they know they can not provide a visual experience anywhere close to those phones. Even the OnePlus 5T I compared in store have a much better screen in terms of non-graininess, lack of pronounced blue shift and maximum brightness.
This is a bummer. The grainyness on mine is faint, but definitely there. Kinda wish I hadn't noticed it but in all honesty I kinda wondered why some pics didn't look quite as good on my phone as they do on my wife's pixel 2. I made trade this for a pixel 2 and be done with it.
Don't have this issue. I prefer gray wallpapers and I don't see this issue. I just tried looking at all white wallpapers and didn't see this issue either. Over on Android Central there seem to be a few people with this issue but the vast majority do not seem to have it and/or notice it.
pixelsquish said:
Don't have this issue. I prefer gray wallpapers and I don't see this issue. I just tried looking at all white wallpapers and didn't see this issue either. Over on Android Central there seem to be a few people with this issue but the vast majority do not seem to have it and/or notice it.
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I think for the majority it may be more about not noticing as opposed to not having the issue.
mlin said:
I think for the majority it may be more about not noticing as opposed to not having the issue.
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Perhaps. I see it on a couple wallpapers here and there but it's rare - but I believe those are just not high rez enough for this screen. That graininess commonly happens when resolution of the image is lower than that of the screen it's being displayed on as far as I know.
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I think for the majority it may be more about not noticing as opposed to not having the issue.
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That is what i also think is happening because i tried to check how many would notice the grain on my phone this friday. The baits were my friends. And only one noticed it. The rest noticed after i told them what to look for.
It is really a shame for google to think they would be able to compete with pixel 2 xl in such a tough market with thus screen and the price tag. I had high hopes for this phone and i have waited for so long to buy a pixel.
Anyways i received an email from a high level supervisor in google's hardware department saying:
"I am sorry for the inconvenience caused to you due to this. As I can see that the phone is working as intended and there is no issue with the device. In this case, we cannot process a replacement for the device. If you want, we can go ahead and check for the refund options of the device. "
Now i want to see what other phone you guys would think i can replace this with. I cant deal with Samsung's bloatware so no S8 or S8+ or note 8 please.
I notice it on white backgrounds but then I realized it's an overlay and it looks grainy because the screensaver shows through a bit on app drawers and such.
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cyber_b_u_g said:
That is what i also think is happening because i tried to check how many would notice the grain on my phone this friday. The baits were my friends. And only one noticed it. The rest noticed after i told them what to look for.
It is really a shame for google to think they would be able to compete with pixel 2 xl in such a tough market with thus screen and the price tag. I had high hopes for this phone and i have waited for so long to buy a pixel.
Anyways i received an email from a high level supervisor in google's hardware department saying:
"I am sorry for the inconvenience caused to you due to this. As I can see that the phone is working as intended and there is no issue with the device. In this case, we cannot process a replacement for the device. If you want, we can go ahead and check for the refund options of the device. "
Now i want to see what other phone you guys would think i can replace this with. I cant deal with Samsung's bloatware so no S8 or S8+ or note 8 please.
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I'm thinking of getting the Pixel 2, if I do decide to replace my 2 XL. It really is a fantastic phone other than the screen. Right now I'm trying to decide how's much the screen bothers me.
cyber_b_u_g said:
That's a different news. There is also another fact that its not visible if you don't really look for it on my phone but when you see the grain there is no way back. That's when you would say ignorance is a bliss. Still i would like to hear more from others if there is noise (i rather call it noise) on the screen or not.
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On the 3 in the Verizon store and my co-worker's I didn't have much time to look under lots of different conditions but on my own I've actually tried to see if. Different colored backgrounds, scrolling on white, different brightness levels, etc. Basically any situations people mentioned and still nothing. Besides the minor blue tint at off angle viewing (which I don't do anyways) I think the screen looks fantastic.
I somehow made a decision to go with the original pixel 2 xl (htc u11+) it has almost the same specs but 128gb, 6gb ram same cpu. Great screen.performance should be on par. It should be fine. What do you guys think?
cyber_b_u_g said:
I somehow made a decision to go with the original pixel 2 xl (htc u11+) it has almost the same specs but 128gb, 6gb ram same cpu. Great screen.performance should be on par. It should be fine. What do you guys think?
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Seems like a great device. Personally I'm going to stick with the Pixel experience if I trade my phone in. I'd rather have a smaller screen with all the benefits of a pixel than something outside of the Pixel line
It is what it is. If you can't live with it, then it's time to move on :d.
Screen is fine to me. Yeah it's not the best. But if you get a decent one it's good. The grain is there but only noticeable if you stick to the screen to your face and look out for it
If you see it in normal use I would say its a faulty screen
Just entered the phone lottery with a request for RMA. Leaving the Verizon store very reassured. The display on their demo model, while it had some blue shift, had no graininess. I couldn't believe how terrible my screen looked compared to the floor model. Fingers crossed I get a good one.
So i sold my Mi Mix 2 when this issue occur my question is do many of u have blurry text when scrolling?
Afaik that's because it's an IPS display which has the benefit of amazing color accuracy at the drawback of pixel response time.
It really bothered me when I first got the phone coming from an AMOLED phone, but after a few weeks I stopped noticing it. I have a really fast high-end TN panel for gaming on my PC, and looking at the colors between that and my phone are a really astounding difference.
I use my phone as a monitor for all photos and graphics I make for now (I'm not a professional so I don't need a specific high end monitor for this)
Yes the scrolling is blurring... With a little red ghosting too I notice (only I the dark I see that)
I understand it is an issue of the used lcd, but previously on my Xiaomi redmi note 4 I didn't had that issue so bad that I would notice also on my LG g6 it was not visible like on the Mi mix 2 even on a huawei p9 it was barely visible.
I noticed as well, but when I switched to the Oreo EU rom it was barely noticeable.
Has anyone checked out the Mi Mix 2s to see if this ghosting is fixed? This is really my favorite phone as it is bootloader unlocked and it has a fully functional AOSP build on it,but the ghosting and text blur still bothers me after weeks of use.
I have read according to benchmarks that the refresh rate is improved by around 10ms on the 2s, but I would like to confirm the issue is fixed before spending the money on one. Like I said, this phone is perfect to me aside from the ghosting.
jal3223 said:
Has anyone checked out the Mi Mix 2s to see if this ghosting is fixed? This is really my favorite phone as it is bootloader unlocked and it has a fully functional AOSP build on it,but the ghosting and text blur still bothers me after weeks of use.
I have read according to benchmarks that the refresh rate is improved by around 10ms on the 2s, but I would like to confirm the issue is fixed before spending the money on one. Like I said, this phone is perfect to me aside from the ghosting.
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unfortunately my mix 2s has very noticeable ghosting.
zigbug said:
unfortunately my mix 2s has very noticeable ghosting.
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Thanks for letting me know man. I hate to spend the money on getting a 2s if the issue is still present. I love everything else about the 2, so I may as well keep it if the issue remains. Thank you!
Is there a way to change this "ghosting" effect ? Even if it means more lags during scrolling ?
I come from an LG G3 whose screen was really better (good colors, no text ghosting..)