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Now that's a problem

Long time user of Timely ...didn't need anything fancy, just a reliable alarm that would gradually increase the alarm volume and a reasonably attractive interface to simulate a nightstand clock.
Apparently Marshmallow has messed up some of the notification processes within Timely and it now frequently stops working. I've looked at the large number of replacement apps without anything really seeming to be decent. I tried the built in Android clock and this morning, it didn't alarm. I'll gladly purchase an app that will work.
Any recommendations?
Thanks in advacne.

I think you need to turn off the battery optimisations (doze) for timely. Settings > Battery > Overflow menu : Battery Optimisation

PhoenixTank said:
I think you need to turn off the battery optimisations (doze) for timely. Settings > Battery > Overflow menu : Battery Optimisation
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Thx. I'll give that a try.

Take a look at this thread, they describe the same problem with 3rd party alarm apps and a solution. https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/3t3dwl/doze_adjustments_and_clarifications/
The solution is not disabling battery optimization for the app, it's enabling priority notifications for the app.
Doze sucks, saves our battery but makes our smartphones dumb.

Doesn't the stock clock app achieve your requirements now (gradually increase volume and night mode)?

reddv1 said:
Take a look at this thread, they describe the same problem with 3rd party alarm apps and a solution. https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/3t3dwl/doze_adjustments_and_clarifications/
The solution is not disabling battery optimization for the app, it's enabling priority notifications for the app.
Doze sucks, saves our battery but makes our smartphones dumb.
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Thx. I'll give it a try.

mymusicathome said:
Doesn't the stock clock app achieve your requirements now (gradually increase volume and night mode)?
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Functionally it does, however the font size is smaller and I don't care for the changing clock position on the screen Just personal preference.

I'm using timely from the day I got the 5X, haven't had any issues at all

I am using Alarm Clock Plus .... works great as always.

Using timely on nexus 5x. no problems here either.
i would just clear the cache of that app and reassign all alarms again to see if that fixes it. when in doubt clear your cache lol

Guide: How to get past the notification issue in EUI

First of all, this thread is not for ranting about the issue. This is about finding a solution. So, please save your rants for other threads.
Many users are reporting notification problems using their LeEco Le Pro 3. I actually refuse to call it a problem. EUI is very aggressive about the memory and power management. And these options are by default turned on. There are few tools available that can allow apps to run more freely in the background. I absolutely hate that stock android doesn't provide any such tool to limit wakelocks or control apps running in the background. So, for every android phones I have used in the past, I used Greenify, Amplify, AppOps to gain those controls.
Now obviously we don't want all of the apps to get limited. A smartphone is about connectivity, and timely syncing is essential for some of the apps. Below are some of the steps that can be taken to get more control of the apps running in the background.
1. Notification Management
Go to Settings>Notification management
Set as 'Important notice' for all the apps you need more frequent notification from.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
2. Disable Auto Cleaning
EUI automatically cleans up app from memory. Disable it for the apps which you need to run in the background.
Go to Phone Manager > Power saving management > App protection
Disable auto cleaning for the necessary apps. I recommend having it enabled for your launcher, if you are using a 3rd party one.
This can also be accessed from the recents menu. Pull down on the desired apps to keep it in memory. This is sometimes useful, because for whatever reason, not all the apps are listed on the previous menu.
2. Sleep Mode Clean up.
Go to Phone Manager > Power saving management
a. Disable Lock-screen cleanup. (This works like the greenify app, once the screen goes off, the background apps get killed)
b. Disable Ultra-long standby during sleep. (Phone basically goes to power-saving mode at night)
Chose depending on what you need. I am keeping the Ultra-long standby on, but Lock-screen clean up off.
3. Wakelock Limit
This works like the Amplify app, but unfortunately we don't have control on which wakelocks to block.
Go to Phone Manager > Power saving management > Align wake up
Disable the options you prefer. They are self-explanatory. I have both of them on, but not having any sync issues with the apps I care about.
4. Auto Launch Limit
Self Explanatory. I used to access this option form AppOps module. Manages which apps can wake up the device from sleep. Enable for apps needed.
Go to Phone Manager > Privacy safety > Manage Auto Launch
5. Background resource control
Dial *#*#46360000#*#* and uncheck 'Enable background resource control'.​
Of course all these steps are gonna take a toll on the battery to some extent. Play with the settings as you wish. Every people has different needs. Choose whatever works best for you. Feel free to share your observations and recommendations. I shall update this thread accordingly.
LeEco's latest update actually disabled most of these battery saving features by default. All apps are allowed to run in the background and wake by themselves. So, you may want to do the opposite now. Block wakelock and restrict background operation for the apps you do not want.

Looking forward to trying this, thanks for sharing!

It's impressive they added all these battery saving features into the rom. I really like this phone alot.
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DxTcmix said:
It's impressive they added all these battery saving features into the rom. I really like this phone alot.
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If the above does not work, which they did not for me, another member discovered a thread from the India forums mentioning a bug in EUI software causing the notification issue. A fix that appears to be working for me so far is:
Dial *#*#46360000#*#* and disable “Enable background resource control”.​

payton8292 said:
If the above does not work, which they did not for me, another member discovered a thread from the India forums mentioning a bug in EUI software causing the notification issue. A fix that appears to be working for me so far is:
Dial *#*#46360000#*#* and disable â??Enable background resource controlâ?.​
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Holy **** I think that did it, including the pesky Nine email client issue that none of the other settings helped.
I still had to add Nine to allow auto-launch but I think it's working. Going to continue testing .
I wonder how the guys at Indian Forum discovered this.

payton8292 said:
If the above does not work, which they did not for me, another member discovered a thread from the India forums mentioning a bug in EUI software causing the notification issue. A fix that appears to be working for me so far is:
Dial *#*#46360000#*#* and disable â??Enable background resource controlâ?.​
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nice, I shall add that to the first post.
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Seems to have worked for me too! I get gmails on time, one of the biggest offenders. Also Google's clock wouldn't wake fit alarms before. Does now so far.
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New update fixed everything for me. Didn't have to change anything in settings...
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New update fixed everything for me. Didn't have to change anything in settings...
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exactly. The new update changed the default values for the system. :good:
Now, you may want to do the opposite for some of the apps to stop them running in the background
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Would you know where are the APN settings in this phone? I'm not getting T-Mobile MMS.
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Would you know where are the APN settings in this phone? I'm not getting T-Mobile MMS.
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Settings/Mobile Networks/Sim Card INformation- Clicl on your phone number and a new menu with APN will appear.

Hi!
I am on a LEX720, with current 5.8.018S (build id WAXCNFN5801811012S).
I tried all the steps from OP and this makes notifications much more reliable (as the apps continue to run in the background and won't be killed). But google cloud messaging is still not working correctly (and the steps in the OP don't fix this).
I tested like this:
I made sure that the application (I tested with the "Signal" app) is definitely not running (i.e. manually killed it over adb).
Then I sent a message to my device and monitored if the Google Play Services are receiving a notification on the device and in fact, yes it does.
BUT: The target app get's NOT started (and so I won't see the message until I open the messaging app later myself).
When I look into logcat I see that Play Services received the C2DM (cloud-to-device-message) but did not deliver the intent (which should cause the relevant app to be started, if it is not running yet):
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11-16 15:33:34.688 W/GCM-DMM (31553): broadcast intent callback: result=CANCELLED forIntent { act=com.google.android.c2dm.intent.RECEIVE flg=0x10000000 pkg=org.thoughtcrime.securesms (has extras) }
This behaviour is the same for me for all apps which use Google cloud notification (WhatsApp, Threema, Signal, etc..).
It can also easily be tested with this app here: Push Notification Tester
Everything works fine as long as the app is open. But if you request a notification in 20 seconds, and then in the meantime kill the app (by swiping it away in the recent apps screen), you won't get any notification. Just the warning message in logcat (just filter for "W/GCM-DMM").
Can anybody else confirm this?

androcheck said:
Hi!
I am on a LEX720, with current 5.8.018S (build id WAXCNFN5801811012S).
I tried all the steps from OP and this makes notifications much more reliable (as the apps continue to run in the background and won't be killed). But google cloud messaging is still not working correctly (and the steps in the OP don't fix this).
I tested like this:
I made sure that the application (I tested with the "Signal" app) is definitely not running (i.e. manually killed it over adb).
Then I sent a message to my device and monitored if the Google Play Services are receiving a notification on the device and in fact, yes it does.
BUT: The target app get's NOT started (and so I won't see the message until I open the messaging app later myself).
When I look into logcat I see that Play Services received the C2DM (cloud-to-device-message) but did not deliver the intent (which should cause the relevant app to be started, if it is not running yet):
Code:
11-16 15:33:34.688 W/GCM-DMM (31553): broadcast intent callback: result=CANCELLED forIntent { act=com.google.android.c2dm.intent.RECEIVE flg=0x10000000 pkg=org.thoughtcrime.securesms (has extras) }
This behaviour is the same for me for all apps which use Google cloud notification (WhatsApp, Threema, Signal, etc..).
It can also easily be tested with this app here: Push Notification Tester
Everything works fine as long as the app is open. But if you request a notification in 20 seconds, and then in the meantime kill the app (by swiping it away in the recent apps screen), you won't get any notification. Just the warning message in logcat (just filter for "W/GCM-DMM").
Can anybody else confirm this?
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Have you tried this?: Dial *#*#46360000#*#* and disable “Enable background resource control”
That's the only thing that's made my notifications finally from within apps (aside from also enabling notifications in settings, priority notifications, not 'cleaning' apps etc. I don't use what'sapp though. But before that, google clock wouldn't wake it for alarms or timers... now it does. I also wasn't getting push notifications for Voxer messages or in the Amazon Flex driver's app that I use for work. They all work fine now after disabling that background resource control crap. They need to remove that as being on by default immediately!!!

benjmiester said:
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Yes, I have disabled this setting. Nevertheless push notifications don't work as expected.
As soon as the app which should receive the push notification is no longer running in the background, the notification will not be shown. This affects every app which uses Google's push notification service.
Here is a short demonstration video how it normally should work (shown on a Nexus 6): https://goo.gl/photos/zV6D4dKm7hufnTTi6
(The app in the video is the Push Notification Tester app I've mentioned before.)
As you can see in the video normally notifications will be received, even if the target app process is not even running. Google Play Services takes care to send an Intent which starts the app so that it can handle the incoming notification.
Unfortunately this seems not work on my LePro 3.
Does this work for anybody else?

androcheck said:
Yes, I have disabled this setting. Nevertheless push notifications don't work as expected.
As soon as the app which should receive the push notification is no longer running in the background, the notification will not be shown. This affects every app which uses Google's push notification service.
Here is a short demonstration video how it normally should work (shown on a Nexus 6): https://goo.gl/photos/zV6D4dKm7hufnTTi6
(The app in the video is the Push Notification Tester app I've mentioned before.)
As you can see in the video normally notifications will be received, even if the target app process is not even running. Google Play Services takes care to send an Intent which starts the app so that it can handle the incoming notification.
Unfortunately this seems not work on my LePro 3.
Does this work for anybody else?
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I cannot seem to recreate that issue. I set the notification delay to 10 seconds, started the test notification, swiped up on the app to remove it from memory and about 4 seconds later I got my test notification.
However, if I put the timer to 30 seconds and start the test notification and then go to the app details and force stop it, I never get my notification, I am not sure if this is by design though.

Adminkiller said:
I cannot seem to recreate that issue. I set the notification delay to 10 seconds, started the test notification, swiped up on the app to remove it from memory and about 4 seconds later I got my test notification.
However, if I put the timer to 30 seconds and start the test notification and then go to the app details and force stop it, I never get my notification, I am not sure if this is by design though.
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I am getting notification even if I set it to 5 mins, and remove the app from memory. Doesn't make sense, why it would be different....

androcheck, did you reboot after disabling background resource control?
Also make sure autostart is on for relevant app

It's working (I am stupid)!
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Also make sure autostart is on for relevant app
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Thank you for the hint. I am stupid, I really forgot to allow auto-start for the test app (I know it was mentioned in the OP and I have read it, no idea why I forgot it). If I enable the test-app in "Phone Manager" -> "Privacy Safety" -> "Manage auto launch" everything works as expected and notifications are displayed even if the app process has been killed in the meantime.
Thank you all for the feedback!
I did a few more tests and I unambiguously could verify that the
"Manage auto launch" permission is directly related with Google Push Notifications working or not.
Now that I think about it, it also makes sense this way. If you don't allow auto-launch for an app, this doesn't just mean, that it can't launch automatically at boot time, but also means that it cannot be launched automatically via a Push Message from the app publisher (if the app is not running yet). Hence push notifications will not work after the app has ended.
Adminkiller said:
However, if I put the timer to 30 seconds and start the test notification and then go to the app details and force stop it, I never get my notification, I am not sure if this is by design though.
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AFAIK, this is by design. If you use force-stop from Settings, then nothing in this app will run again automatically. This includes the BroadcastReceiver which receives the Push Notification Intents. Only after one of the app components is started again manually (e.g. by manually launching the app again) the app will receive Broadcasts again.

OP, you're missing a step in step 3, it's phone manager > power savings management > Align wakeup

voidcomp said:
OP, you're missing a step in step 3, it's phone manager > power savings management > Align wakeup
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LeEco actually moved it in the latest update. I guess I shall update it here too.

[App] [Pixel Pulse] Rejoice! Our Alternative for LED Notifications - (Stable)

Like most, I feel really empty without the LED.. I've been using, and have been dependent on the LED ever since my beloved Nexus One
and every Nexus/Pixel since..
Giving thanks:
Forcing us to pick up our phone just to see if we have any notifications is just uncalled for.
I want to check my phone when I want to, not because I have to.
I've tried pretty much every alternative out there -- they either didnt work how i wanted, or were just too ugly how they displayed the info.
Welp, enough rambling. Let me get to the point.
Lets us all give a round of applause to @grokus,
for providing us non-led'ers a true solution in the hell storm that has been created over this whole ordeal :victory:
He's been taking suggestions on what to include as well!
Behold, "Pixel Pulse"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.pixelpulse​
Description:
- Pixel Pulse uses the systems ambient display, in a VERY minimal, clean, efficient, time interval approach, to display whatever app you want to 'pop up'
- Pixel Pulse will 'cycle through' each app if multiple notifications are present
- Notifications can either be displayed as; icon only, icon + app name, icon + notification title, icon + title + content, or a mixture of all three depending on the app(s) you choose.
- Color choices, and more
How to use:
- Must have Ambient Display enabled. - (I just have the 'tap to touch' slider on).
- Have 'New Notifications' (Inside Ambient Display settings) enabled. - (This just allows Pixel Pulse to take over how to display the notifications).
- Battery Optimization (for this app) disabled. - (So the system continues the run the app without shutting the app down) ---- Settings > Battery > Battery Optimization > Pixel Pulse app > Don't Optimize.
- Go back into the app, set everything up as you like; colors, the time interval between pulses, what apps to display, how to display, etc
Going a Step Further:
- Once you have everything enabled you will be greeted with a persistent notification that displays "Pixel Pulse is Running". This notification will be present at ALL times; pulsing like a notification when the screen is off and in the notification drop down. Lets get rid of this (look at the next line).
- Settings > Apps & Notifications > Pixel Pulse app > Notifications > uncheck Pixel Pulse is Running > Enjoy :good:​
And there you have it! Enjoy your new LED notifications haha :laugh: -- Cant wait to see future development.

Thanks so much for the mention! I'll subscribe to this thread so if anyone has any issues or requests feel free to post them here.

I came across this a few days ago and even donated to get the pro features but for the life of me couldn't get the repeating pulse to work. It would show when I got a notification but then never repeat no matter how many seconds I set the interval to so I just gave up on it.

tlbland0426 said:
I came across this a few days ago and even donated to get the pro features but for the life of me couldn't get the repeating pulse to work. It would show when I got a notification but then never repeat no matter how many seconds I set the interval to so I just gave up on it.
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After reading through that thread, i believe he fixed it sometime last night.. I pulses for me fine.. You might give it another go and see

Yeah for some reason I still can't seem to get it to work. The notification shows up one time and then never reappears. I have the interval set to 10 seconds just to test and nothing.

tlbland0426 said:
Yeah for some reason I still can't seem to get it to work. The notification shows up one time and then never reappears. I have the interval set to 10 seconds just to test and nothing.
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You gave it notification access, right?

hartleyshc said:
You gave it notification access, right?
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Yep, ambient display is turned on (tap to view) and set to wake screen with new notifications. Have Pixel Pulse enabled with notification access, interval set to 10 seconds, apps configured and timeout set to 0.

I think this one would be a better implementation for notifications because it does a light ring around the phone AND a pop up toast for the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flysoft.panel.edgelighting

tlbland0426 said:
Yep, ambient display is turned on (tap to view) and set to wake screen with new notifications. Have Pixel Pulse enabled with notification access, interval set to 10 seconds, apps configured and timeout set to 0.
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That all sounds correct. I wonder if do not disturb is causing problems?
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jeanxx said:
I think this one would be a better implementation for notifications because it does a light ring around the phone AND a pop up toast for the app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flysoft.panel.edgelighting
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Just be aware that displaying content over the lock screen like that wakes the device from doze/sleep.

grokus said:
That all sounds correct. I wonder if do not disturb is causing problems?
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Don't have DND on and made sure to disable all battery optimizations so that wouldn't affect it either. I'll keep messing around with it though cause it seems like it's just the app I'm looking for at least until OnePlus implements an AOD or someone makes a working AOD port down the road.

This is pretty cool,I wonder how it effects battery?

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Don't have DND on and made sure to disable all battery optimizations so that wouldn't affect it either. I'll keep messing around with it though cause it seems like it's just the app I'm looking for at least until OnePlus implements an AOD or someone makes a working AOD port down the road.
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Yeah it's working here. Tested it out. It was iffy at first for me too.
I would say go in and just toggle the settings again and then restart.
After I did that it's been flawless.
Also @grokus enjoy 70% of a coffee.

grokus said:
Thanks so much for the mention! I'll subscribe to this thread so if anyone has any issues or requests feel free to post them here.
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Absolutely!
However, if i may give one .. maybe two suggestions.. lol
1. While its pulsing, with hidden content.. Maybe remove the "pixel pulse" name and only show the icon itself? thatll clean it up a bit more i think.. (also: when new message is received, the content still displays, but then 'goes away' and continues to pulse without the content -- is that intended?).
2. When you have multiple notifications; gmail, sms, etc .. maybe have the notification cycle through each app every pulse? (first pulse could show the sms, then the next pulse, gmail, etc..) Or 'stack' them (maybe 3 at the most?) on top of each other while it pulses? .. So you get to see all three apps at one time? Or a combinations of those if you have multiple notifications from various apps? ..
Hope i made sense :silly: -- i can elaborate if need be ha

Incredible_Culp said:
Absolutely!
However, if i may give one .. maybe two suggestions.. lol
1. While its pulsing, with hidden content.. Maybe remove the "pixel pulse" name and only show the icon itself? thatll clean it up a bit more i think.. (also: when new message is received, the content still displays, but then 'goes away' and continues to pulse without the content -- is that intended?).
2. When you have multiple notifications; gmail, sms, etc .. maybe have the notification cycle through each app every pulse? (first pulse could show the sms, then the next pulse, gmail, etc..) Or 'stack' them (maybe 3 at the most?) on top of each other while it pulses? .. So you get to see all three apps at one time? Or a combinations of those if you have multiple notifications from various apps? ..
Hope i made sense :silly: -- i can elaborate if need be ha
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Yeah for those I have a feeling the Pixel lock screen doesn't work like ours. So he would definitely need to detect the device that's being used, if he's not already.

hartleyshc said:
Also @grokus enjoy 70% of a coffee.
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Lol

Incredible_Culp said:
Absolutely!
However, if i may give one .. maybe two suggestions.. lol
1. While its pulsing, with hidden content.. Maybe remove the "pixel pulse" name and only show the icon itself? thatll clean it up a bit more i think.. (also: when new message is received, the content still displays, but then 'goes away' and continues to pulse without the content -- is that intended?).
2. When you have multiple notifications; gmail, sms, etc .. maybe have the notification cycle through each app every pulse? (first pulse could show the sms, then the next pulse, gmail, etc..) Or 'stack' them (maybe 3 at the most?) on top of each other while it pulses? .. So you get to see all three apps at one time? Or a combinations of those if you have multiple notifications from various apps? ..
Hope i made sense :silly: -- i can elaborate if need be ha
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I only have a Pixel to test on right now so please bear with me while I try to understand this.
I suspect that the first wake up might be your device's initial wake but I could be wrong.
I'll be adding a way to only show icons in addition to the hide content option (like the ninja mode).
On the pixel they do scroll through all current notifications each pulse. The pixel only shows one full notification at a time. What happens on your device? I can try other ways if you're willing to test it for me.

@Incredible_Culp
THX for sharing this w/us,much appreciated ! :good:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.pixelpulse&hl=en
I'm liking this a bit better than a couple of the other apps mentioned throughout the OP6T Forum .
Your set-up notes in the OP got me to give it a look & once set-up & tested,I immediately went to this one as my go-to LED Notification replacement.
Those who choose to use this or any other LED replacement apps are going to see usage in the battery stats.
This may be near the top in usage,my suggestion is don't get caught up in the numbers,just use your phone as you normally would.
You may see less remaining at the end of the day vs not using it at all,but,I'm willing to bet it won't be close to a "panic" / "wall-hugger" level.
If this wasn't using battery/in-use,the next app or process in line would be showing the higher % use,hence the tail-chasing of the battery life discussions,LOL.
I recommend anyone give this a shot & support the developer if possible............. :good:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.pixelpulse&hl=en

It doesn't work for me no matter what I try. Changed the settings according to the first post, made all in-app settings, activated the pulse for all apps. Still, nothing happens when a notification arrives. Can someone please help?

jackennils said:
It doesn't work for me no matter what I try. Changed the settings according to the first post, made all in-app settings, activated the pulse for all apps. Still, nothing happens when a notification arrives. Can someone please help?
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Perhaps check your battery optimizations for all of the associated apps, including Pixel Pulse. (make sure they're not optimized & are allowed to run in the background)
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Now it works, thanks a lot!
Edit: Okay, not really working. Sometimes it is, but most of the time it doesn't.

Keep open in background

Is there a way to have this support more than 3 apps? It's ridiculous there's a limit with the amount of ram on this phone

That's a GREAT question, and I'd love to know the answer too. I haven't found one yet though. RAM isn't an issue on this phone. Maybe they worry too many locked in memory will affect battery life too much?

Where did you learn this is the limit? I've gone days without opening an app before and when I go back to it it's right where I left off.
You could perhaps go to the battery saving menu and disable the battery saving for any apps you want to remain running. This may cause some serious background battery usage though, but It may be worth trying out. Also, try running the high performance mode. I've run that mode a lot and never noticed it causing much battery drain over the standard optimised mode.

Coming from Oneplus and using it for a long time I can tell you, the Note 10+ is probably one of the best multitasking phones I've used (including Note 9). Chrome on this hardly ever closes in the background and find it always running and available with all the tabs open. Oneplus phones can hardly keep anything in memory / background loaded for more than 5 mins but but Oneplus phones feel sooooo much more responsive and snappy comparatively otherwise.

The default for background apps is set to, "standard." Which allows more than 3 background apps.
Go into Device Care - > Battery - > App power management
Some apps may have been automatically added to sleep or deep sleep.
You can add or remove apps as needed.
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imucarmen said:
Where did you learn this is the limit?
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After you add three to "Keep open for quick launching" the option becomes greyed out.
You're right, it's generally not an issue where apps get closed down in the background anyway, but I normally have 4 or 5 that I always wanted 'pinned' to my recents list. Not a big deal, I just found the limit strange, given the phone's capabiities and hardware.

Henaway said:
After you add three to "Keep open for quick launching" the option becomes greyed out.
You're right, it's generally not an issue where apps get closed down in the background anyway, but I normally have 4 or 5 that I always wanted 'pinned' to my recents list. Not a big deal, I just found the limit strange, given the phone's capabiities and hardware.
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How do you get " keep open for quick launching “ , I only get lock app instead , I'm running one ui 2.1 june security patch ” picture attached ”
Anyway you can bypass this using good lock app from galaxy store and use the module multistar and toggle on ”long live apps”

My task manager

hoss_n2 said:
How do you get " keep open for quick launching “ , I only get lock app instead , I'm running one ui 2.1 june security patch ” picture attached ”
Anyway you can bypass this using good lock app from galaxy store and use the module multistar and toggle on ”long live apps”
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I'm also on One UI 2.1, June security patch. Screenshot of my menu option is attached. Maybe it's different between countries/regions/models? Mine is the Canadian N975W.
Edit: attachments aren't working, here's a link to the screenshot: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqdgaMVMg2EMirgLXMqey1V1d0Gsdg?e=RGdVeX

I have three settings :
Put apps to sleep
Put apps to deep sleep
Apps that are not put to sleep.
I can add as many as i want in here.
There's an option to Goodlock's Task Changer to keep an app open which is a setting you don't have anywhere else in the system.
But i don't have that long live app in Multistar on my end.

Sorry for digging this up but do all of your apps appear in the "Apps that never sleep" list of apps?
I'm missing quite a few of my apps, aProfiles and Philips Hue for a start...
Anyone has noticed that before? Thnx

Question This phone would be perfect if it wasn't for the crappy AOD and battery optimization

The always on display only shows a notification for one app, even though I have 4 others checked in the AOD settings. And the battery optimization is preventing notifications for at least 5 of my apps even though I changed the battery settings and also used ADB to get rid of com.vivo.pem and other stuff that supposedly caused this.
Anyone have any solutions to these? I have the global version

My notifications work well.
Settings -battery-power consumption - unresctrict them
Also info the individual apps and remove the battery optimization.
Hope that helps.

TS, did the advise work for you ???

You dont need to get rid of any of these apps:
I am using Origin OS and this is how the notification works:
Setting -> Apps & Permissions -> Permission Management -> Permission -> Choose Permission i.e. Autostart (needed for whatsapp/gmail/insta etc) go thru list and select apps -> follow with "Display on lock screen" and so on.
Worked like a charm here for me.

jiggyho said:
My notifications work well.
Settings -battery-power consumption - unresctrict them
Also info the individual apps and remove the battery optimization.
Hope that helps.
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hello what sense? Can you explain better? exactly where should I go? make a video